Re: Help - Heart just started beating VERY slowly and IRREGULARLY

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your reply Milena. It sounds like you've

been thru something like I am going thru now. Actually, the pressure

started 2 1/2 years ago in May 2007. This was the first day when

I undertstood something was wrong. And now it's back again.....

The pressure appears with T3-meds, but I've also felt it without

T3-meds. Could it be T3-meds doing this do me, or just the simple

fact that I need MORE T3-meds? I am on 15 mcg T3-only daily now.

What do you think, ? Do I need more HC to let this T3 into

my cells or what? Ferritin?

>

> I wanted to tell you that I have had heart problems to.I was very bad for

awhile and knowing about my hypo problems but when my adrenals got very bed I

also was very scared from my pain and tightness in my heart.I also ended up in

ER for my heart pain and after EKG they told me everything was normal with my

heart.After I started the HC it took time for this issue to fade but even now 6

months on HC and now I'm in my 13th week on T3 only some times I feel the

weakness and tightness in my heart but not to the extend it used to be.There

were moments having such a strong heart pain ,I was thinking I'm dying.I have

asked on the forum many times about my heart problem and other people have had

heart problems but never understood what helps and what causes this.I feel for

you and hope that with the help of Val you will get out of this. Remember there

are other who had heart problems and I could handle anything else but when this

was going on it scared me to dead.Try to hang there and know that this is just a

temporary while going trough the healing process.I hope you will improve soon.

> Milena

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your reply Milena. It sounds like you've

been thru something like I am going thru now. Actually, the pressure

started 2 1/2 years ago in May 2007. This was the first day when

I undertstood something was wrong. And now it's back again.....

The pressure appears with T3-meds, but I've also felt it without

T3-meds. Could it be T3-meds doing this do me, or just the simple

fact that I need MORE T3-meds? I am on 15 mcg T3-only daily now.

What do you think, ? Do I need more HC to let this T3 into

my cells or what? Ferritin?

>

> I wanted to tell you that I have had heart problems to.I was very bad for

awhile and knowing about my hypo problems but when my adrenals got very bed I

also was very scared from my pain and tightness in my heart.I also ended up in

ER for my heart pain and after EKG they told me everything was normal with my

heart.After I started the HC it took time for this issue to fade but even now 6

months on HC and now I'm in my 13th week on T3 only some times I feel the

weakness and tightness in my heart but not to the extend it used to be.There

were moments having such a strong heart pain ,I was thinking I'm dying.I have

asked on the forum many times about my heart problem and other people have had

heart problems but never understood what helps and what causes this.I feel for

you and hope that with the help of Val you will get out of this. Remember there

are other who had heart problems and I could handle anything else but when this

was going on it scared me to dead.Try to hang there and know that this is just a

temporary while going trough the healing process.I hope you will improve soon.

> Milena

[Guest guest]

It's really impossible to do hourly temperature measurements cause

I can't eat or drink 20 minutes before I measure. Well, I guess I can

try this. But I eat so often, so.. I don't know! I'll give it a try!

Starting right now at 5 pm!

Typo - I mean, my temp is pretty much always 36.9 or 37.0! 0.1 variation.

I can show you what I've registered since starting on T3-only:

14/12/2009

13:00 - 37.0

17:00 - 36.9

20:00 - X

16/12/2009

17:00 - 37.0

20:00 - 37.2

21:45 - 37.0

17/12/2009

12:15 - 36.9

13:41 - 37.2

16:15 - 37.0

19:15 - 37.0

18/12/2009

17:00 - 37.0

See? Even this temp right NOW is perfect. 37.0. I am healthy. Right?

Don't even need to take any T3. Gawd this is driving me NUTS.

The pressure on my chest is SOOOOO bad!!!!!!!!! ARGH!

I measure orally with my digital thermometer, like Dr. Rind says.

I have yet to aquire a different type of thermometer, but will try to

do this asap, to get better readings (?).

Should I measure the same amount of time every time I measure OR

measure til the temp stops? It can be a huge variation from what I get

after 25 seconds (as instructed) to 10 minutes. Like.. 0.4 more even!

I never really did pulse so much before, well, I check it OFTEN,

but never register it. Will start now! Thanks for the tip.

Thanks for your help, Nick! It means everything to me, what you people

are doing in these groups!

T.

>

> >I take 1 grain of ERF Thyroid daily, split in two 1/2 doses at around

> >noon and 6 pm at the moment.

>

> That won't help your sleep problem. When I was on Natural I couldn't

> take any after 2pm without affecting sleep. I can T3, just not

> Natural.

> >

> >Like I've said before, my temperatures have been quite normal in the

> >last 6 months while I've been HC, and also before I started HC.

> >I started measuring my temperatures 2 months before I got onto HC.

> >

> >My temperatures have not changed with HC. They've been prettu much

> >36.7 or 37.0 C

>

> That's a big variation if it's random scatter, it it's a gentle drift

> up in the day and down again in the evening it's fine. Log me a couple

> of days of hourly temperatires and let's see what we can make of them

>

> >all the time, except when I wake up. I haven't done

> >too many basal oral temps, but the ones I've done lately have been

> >anywhere from 35.9 to (mostly) 36.4.

>

> That is MASSIVE variation

>

> >I guess 36.4 is normal, cause

> >you need to add 0.3 to the oral temp to get the REAL body temp.

>

> The tempeeratures that are talked about in Dr Rind are ORAL. Broda

> talked about armpit which is 0.3 down. There is nothing to add

> to oral to get the numbers we are talking about

>

> >And the right morning temp should be 36.7, which mine is, including

> >those 0.3 extra.

>

> you can't have 0.3 extra

>

> Lets have some hard data to work on, hourly pulse and temperature for

> a couple of days and after that decide an interval that's showing what

> is there to be seen and take a few more data data of the most useful

> times.

>

> Nick

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

It's really impossible to do hourly temperature measurements cause

I can't eat or drink 20 minutes before I measure. Well, I guess I can

try this. But I eat so often, so.. I don't know! I'll give it a try!

Starting right now at 5 pm!

Typo - I mean, my temp is pretty much always 36.9 or 37.0! 0.1 variation.

I can show you what I've registered since starting on T3-only:

14/12/2009

13:00 - 37.0

17:00 - 36.9

20:00 - X

16/12/2009

17:00 - 37.0

20:00 - 37.2

21:45 - 37.0

17/12/2009

12:15 - 36.9

13:41 - 37.2

16:15 - 37.0

19:15 - 37.0

18/12/2009

17:00 - 37.0

See? Even this temp right NOW is perfect. 37.0. I am healthy. Right?

Don't even need to take any T3. Gawd this is driving me NUTS.

The pressure on my chest is SOOOOO bad!!!!!!!!! ARGH!

I measure orally with my digital thermometer, like Dr. Rind says.

I have yet to aquire a different type of thermometer, but will try to

do this asap, to get better readings (?).

Should I measure the same amount of time every time I measure OR

measure til the temp stops? It can be a huge variation from what I get

after 25 seconds (as instructed) to 10 minutes. Like.. 0.4 more even!

I never really did pulse so much before, well, I check it OFTEN,

but never register it. Will start now! Thanks for the tip.

Thanks for your help, Nick! It means everything to me, what you people

are doing in these groups!

T.

>

> >I take 1 grain of ERF Thyroid daily, split in two 1/2 doses at around

> >noon and 6 pm at the moment.

>

> That won't help your sleep problem. When I was on Natural I couldn't

> take any after 2pm without affecting sleep. I can T3, just not

> Natural.

> >

> >Like I've said before, my temperatures have been quite normal in the

> >last 6 months while I've been HC, and also before I started HC.

> >I started measuring my temperatures 2 months before I got onto HC.

> >

> >My temperatures have not changed with HC. They've been prettu much

> >36.7 or 37.0 C

>

> That's a big variation if it's random scatter, it it's a gentle drift

> up in the day and down again in the evening it's fine. Log me a couple

> of days of hourly temperatires and let's see what we can make of them

>

> >all the time, except when I wake up. I haven't done

> >too many basal oral temps, but the ones I've done lately have been

> >anywhere from 35.9 to (mostly) 36.4.

>

> That is MASSIVE variation

>

> >I guess 36.4 is normal, cause

> >you need to add 0.3 to the oral temp to get the REAL body temp.

>

> The tempeeratures that are talked about in Dr Rind are ORAL. Broda

> talked about armpit which is 0.3 down. There is nothing to add

> to oral to get the numbers we are talking about

>

> >And the right morning temp should be 36.7, which mine is, including

> >those 0.3 extra.

>

> you can't have 0.3 extra

>

> Lets have some hard data to work on, hourly pulse and temperature for

> a couple of days and after that decide an interval that's showing what

> is there to be seen and take a few more data data of the most useful

> times.

>

> Nick

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

It's really impossible to do hourly temperature measurements cause

I can't eat or drink 20 minutes before I measure. Well, I guess I can

try this. But I eat so often, so.. I don't know! I'll give it a try!

Starting right now at 5 pm!

Typo - I mean, my temp is pretty much always 36.9 or 37.0! 0.1 variation.

I can show you what I've registered since starting on T3-only:

14/12/2009

13:00 - 37.0

17:00 - 36.9

20:00 - X

16/12/2009

17:00 - 37.0

20:00 - 37.2

21:45 - 37.0

17/12/2009

12:15 - 36.9

13:41 - 37.2

16:15 - 37.0

19:15 - 37.0

18/12/2009

17:00 - 37.0

See? Even this temp right NOW is perfect. 37.0. I am healthy. Right?

Don't even need to take any T3. Gawd this is driving me NUTS.

The pressure on my chest is SOOOOO bad!!!!!!!!! ARGH!

I measure orally with my digital thermometer, like Dr. Rind says.

I have yet to aquire a different type of thermometer, but will try to

do this asap, to get better readings (?).

Should I measure the same amount of time every time I measure OR

measure til the temp stops? It can be a huge variation from what I get

after 25 seconds (as instructed) to 10 minutes. Like.. 0.4 more even!

I never really did pulse so much before, well, I check it OFTEN,

but never register it. Will start now! Thanks for the tip.

Thanks for your help, Nick! It means everything to me, what you people

are doing in these groups!

T.

>

> >I take 1 grain of ERF Thyroid daily, split in two 1/2 doses at around

> >noon and 6 pm at the moment.

>

> That won't help your sleep problem. When I was on Natural I couldn't

> take any after 2pm without affecting sleep. I can T3, just not

> Natural.

> >

> >Like I've said before, my temperatures have been quite normal in the

> >last 6 months while I've been HC, and also before I started HC.

> >I started measuring my temperatures 2 months before I got onto HC.

> >

> >My temperatures have not changed with HC. They've been prettu much

> >36.7 or 37.0 C

>

> That's a big variation if it's random scatter, it it's a gentle drift

> up in the day and down again in the evening it's fine. Log me a couple

> of days of hourly temperatires and let's see what we can make of them

>

> >all the time, except when I wake up. I haven't done

> >too many basal oral temps, but the ones I've done lately have been

> >anywhere from 35.9 to (mostly) 36.4.

>

> That is MASSIVE variation

>

> >I guess 36.4 is normal, cause

> >you need to add 0.3 to the oral temp to get the REAL body temp.

>

> The tempeeratures that are talked about in Dr Rind are ORAL. Broda

> talked about armpit which is 0.3 down. There is nothing to add

> to oral to get the numbers we are talking about

>

> >And the right morning temp should be 36.7, which mine is, including

> >those 0.3 extra.

>

> you can't have 0.3 extra

>

> Lets have some hard data to work on, hourly pulse and temperature for

> a couple of days and after that decide an interval that's showing what

> is there to be seen and take a few more data data of the most useful

> times.

>

> Nick

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

>Taking 15 mcg T3 daily now. Ferritin is at 66, and I keep taking 50 mg

>Iron daily. With my 25 mg HC daily. I sleep from midnight/1 am to 9/10

>am.

I don't know why those symptoms hopefully they will ease as you get

less hypo.

You are going to have to increase that iron to at least 100 a day.

That ferritin of 66 was measured without a 5 day break from

supplementing so is skewed a bit on the high side

Nick

[Guest guest]

>Taking 15 mcg T3 daily now. Ferritin is at 66, and I keep taking 50 mg

>Iron daily. With my 25 mg HC daily. I sleep from midnight/1 am to 9/10

>am.

I don't know why those symptoms hopefully they will ease as you get

less hypo.

You are going to have to increase that iron to at least 100 a day.

That ferritin of 66 was measured without a 5 day break from

supplementing so is skewed a bit on the high side

Nick

[Guest guest]

Pam, thanks for your feedback!

What did you do to start tolerating thyroid meds again? HC? What

change did you do?

I have been under-medicated for 2 years now. Just started HC in June,

and went off of a try with 1 grain dessicated thyroid to 10 mcg T3.

I take 15 mcg T3 daily now. Too little, I know.

Just need to get those T3 hormones into my cells!!

I _hate_ this tightness! Feels like I am dying!!

> >

> > I toko 2.5 mg at around 6 am. Dunno if it worked.

> >

> > Haven't slept a BIT!

> >

> > I have a VERY tight feeling in my heart, on my chest (middle, and a

> > little to the left... the heart!) and I just got back from the doctors

> > office. We ran an EKG, it was normal. I have electrical wiring errors,

> > but it's not new. We knew about that.

> >

> > Blood pressure: 125/85

> >

>

> Hi

>

> Just to say I developed this horrible tightness and pressure in my chest

around the heart area when I was very hypo and unable to tolerate thyroid meds.

Now I am 2 weeks in and able to tolerate 1 grain plus 12.5 T3 plus another dose

of 6.2 it has gone so for me definitely a hypo symptoms that had been going on

for over a month uncorrected.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Pam, thanks for your feedback!

What did you do to start tolerating thyroid meds again? HC? What

change did you do?

I have been under-medicated for 2 years now. Just started HC in June,

and went off of a try with 1 grain dessicated thyroid to 10 mcg T3.

I take 15 mcg T3 daily now. Too little, I know.

Just need to get those T3 hormones into my cells!!

I _hate_ this tightness! Feels like I am dying!!

> >

> > I toko 2.5 mg at around 6 am. Dunno if it worked.

> >

> > Haven't slept a BIT!

> >

> > I have a VERY tight feeling in my heart, on my chest (middle, and a

> > little to the left... the heart!) and I just got back from the doctors

> > office. We ran an EKG, it was normal. I have electrical wiring errors,

> > but it's not new. We knew about that.

> >

> > Blood pressure: 125/85

> >

>

> Hi

>

> Just to say I developed this horrible tightness and pressure in my chest

around the heart area when I was very hypo and unable to tolerate thyroid meds.

Now I am 2 weeks in and able to tolerate 1 grain plus 12.5 T3 plus another dose

of 6.2 it has gone so for me definitely a hypo symptoms that had been going on

for over a month uncorrected.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Pam, thanks for your feedback!

What did you do to start tolerating thyroid meds again? HC? What

change did you do?

I have been under-medicated for 2 years now. Just started HC in June,

and went off of a try with 1 grain dessicated thyroid to 10 mcg T3.

I take 15 mcg T3 daily now. Too little, I know.

Just need to get those T3 hormones into my cells!!

I _hate_ this tightness! Feels like I am dying!!

> >

> > I toko 2.5 mg at around 6 am. Dunno if it worked.

> >

> > Haven't slept a BIT!

> >

> > I have a VERY tight feeling in my heart, on my chest (middle, and a

> > little to the left... the heart!) and I just got back from the doctors

> > office. We ran an EKG, it was normal. I have electrical wiring errors,

> > but it's not new. We knew about that.

> >

> > Blood pressure: 125/85

> >

>

> Hi

>

> Just to say I developed this horrible tightness and pressure in my chest

around the heart area when I was very hypo and unable to tolerate thyroid meds.

Now I am 2 weeks in and able to tolerate 1 grain plus 12.5 T3 plus another dose

of 6.2 it has gone so for me definitely a hypo symptoms that had been going on

for over a month uncorrected.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

I read your website and it's good! I know about the chase now.

But how on earth will I know the difference between low cortisol

or low T3? I mean - If I feel " low cortisol " and take extra HC,

things will not improve if I really need more T3!

I am at 50 mg iron daily. It went up from 24 (2 months ago) to 66 now

on these 25, and now 50 mg iron daily. I will take more iron soon,

and split the dose in 2!

>

> >

> >Nick, what can I expect from here? I like to know before I do things -

> >Any warnings? Like how will I know when to up the dose?

>

> Have a read of this

>

> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

>

> You can expect a chase, as your T4 levels go down then you will need

> to increase T3 to compensate.

>

> It will be a few months before things stabilise.

>

> If the ferritin starts getting in the way you might get anxiety and

> stress, much like adrenal symptoms really.

>

> Keep going with that iron, at least 100 per day but split it into 2

> doses.

>

> I've heard that vitamin C with it can help absorption.

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

I read your website and it's good! I know about the chase now.

But how on earth will I know the difference between low cortisol

or low T3? I mean - If I feel " low cortisol " and take extra HC,

things will not improve if I really need more T3!

I am at 50 mg iron daily. It went up from 24 (2 months ago) to 66 now

on these 25, and now 50 mg iron daily. I will take more iron soon,

and split the dose in 2!

>

> >

> >Nick, what can I expect from here? I like to know before I do things -

> >Any warnings? Like how will I know when to up the dose?

>

> Have a read of this

>

> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

>

> You can expect a chase, as your T4 levels go down then you will need

> to increase T3 to compensate.

>

> It will be a few months before things stabilise.

>

> If the ferritin starts getting in the way you might get anxiety and

> stress, much like adrenal symptoms really.

>

> Keep going with that iron, at least 100 per day but split it into 2

> doses.

>

> I've heard that vitamin C with it can help absorption.

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

I read your website and it's good! I know about the chase now.

But how on earth will I know the difference between low cortisol

or low T3? I mean - If I feel " low cortisol " and take extra HC,

things will not improve if I really need more T3!

I am at 50 mg iron daily. It went up from 24 (2 months ago) to 66 now

on these 25, and now 50 mg iron daily. I will take more iron soon,

and split the dose in 2!

>

> >

> >Nick, what can I expect from here? I like to know before I do things -

> >Any warnings? Like how will I know when to up the dose?

>

> Have a read of this

>

> http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

>

> You can expect a chase, as your T4 levels go down then you will need

> to increase T3 to compensate.

>

> It will be a few months before things stabilise.

>

> If the ferritin starts getting in the way you might get anxiety and

> stress, much like adrenal symptoms really.

>

> Keep going with that iron, at least 100 per day but split it into 2

> doses.

>

> I've heard that vitamin C with it can help absorption.

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

Let's say I take my first T3 at 10 am. Then I can do the first 25 mg

Iron at 11 am, right? BUT THEN I have to wait 4 hours, til 3 pm before

taking T3 again. But second T3 dose is now scheduled daily at 2 pm!

But this cannot be done if I take Iron 1 hour after taking T3 at

10 am! How do I do this?

As for the Chase - If my body looses T4, and desperately needs T3,

and I take more T3, what if I can't tolerate more T3 due to too little

HC (25 mg daily now.. is this OK?) or low Ferritin?

How much lower than 66 do you think my Ferritin is when I don't stop

taking iron before taking the Ferritin blood sample?

[Guest guest]

Let's say I take my first T3 at 10 am. Then I can do the first 25 mg

Iron at 11 am, right? BUT THEN I have to wait 4 hours, til 3 pm before

taking T3 again. But second T3 dose is now scheduled daily at 2 pm!

But this cannot be done if I take Iron 1 hour after taking T3 at

10 am! How do I do this?

As for the Chase - If my body looses T4, and desperately needs T3,

and I take more T3, what if I can't tolerate more T3 due to too little

HC (25 mg daily now.. is this OK?) or low Ferritin?

How much lower than 66 do you think my Ferritin is when I don't stop

taking iron before taking the Ferritin blood sample?

[Guest guest]

The question is if I can even stop taking iron for 5 days to measure

Ferritin! I will then be 5 days behind my iron dosing schedule.

I will increase to 75 mg iron tomorrow. I can take Iron 1 hour after

I take T3 right? But only 4 hours BEFORE I take T3, yeah?

If it was AF making me so stressed last year when I was on a full

dose of 100 mcg T4 and 40 mcg T3, it can very well be the AF

stopping the T3 from entering my cells, creating this pressure on my

chest, like I have now. But I do take 25 mg HC daily, which is not

an extremely low dose. Plan to go up to 27.5 mg tomorrow after

being on 25 mg for 3 days. Does this sounds ok?

The tightness in my heart is unbelieveable. It gets worse when I type,

probably from stress. I remember that was one of my first symptoms

in 2007: The more I wrote, the more I chatted with people, the more

tightness in my chest... Does that make any sense?

>

> >Taking 15 mcg T3 daily now. Ferritin is at 66, and I keep taking 50 mg

> >Iron daily. With my 25 mg HC daily. I sleep from midnight/1 am to 9/10

> >am.

>

> I don't know why those symptoms hopefully they will ease as you get

> less hypo.

>

> You are going to have to increase that iron to at least 100 a day.

> That ferritin of 66 was measured without a 5 day break from

> supplementing so is skewed a bit on the high side

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

The question is if I can even stop taking iron for 5 days to measure

Ferritin! I will then be 5 days behind my iron dosing schedule.

I will increase to 75 mg iron tomorrow. I can take Iron 1 hour after

I take T3 right? But only 4 hours BEFORE I take T3, yeah?

If it was AF making me so stressed last year when I was on a full

dose of 100 mcg T4 and 40 mcg T3, it can very well be the AF

stopping the T3 from entering my cells, creating this pressure on my

chest, like I have now. But I do take 25 mg HC daily, which is not

an extremely low dose. Plan to go up to 27.5 mg tomorrow after

being on 25 mg for 3 days. Does this sounds ok?

The tightness in my heart is unbelieveable. It gets worse when I type,

probably from stress. I remember that was one of my first symptoms

in 2007: The more I wrote, the more I chatted with people, the more

tightness in my chest... Does that make any sense?

>

> >Taking 15 mcg T3 daily now. Ferritin is at 66, and I keep taking 50 mg

> >Iron daily. With my 25 mg HC daily. I sleep from midnight/1 am to 9/10

> >am.

>

> I don't know why those symptoms hopefully they will ease as you get

> less hypo.

>

> You are going to have to increase that iron to at least 100 a day.

> That ferritin of 66 was measured without a 5 day break from

> supplementing so is skewed a bit on the high side

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

The question is if I can even stop taking iron for 5 days to measure

Ferritin! I will then be 5 days behind my iron dosing schedule.

I will increase to 75 mg iron tomorrow. I can take Iron 1 hour after

I take T3 right? But only 4 hours BEFORE I take T3, yeah?

If it was AF making me so stressed last year when I was on a full

dose of 100 mcg T4 and 40 mcg T3, it can very well be the AF

stopping the T3 from entering my cells, creating this pressure on my

chest, like I have now. But I do take 25 mg HC daily, which is not

an extremely low dose. Plan to go up to 27.5 mg tomorrow after

being on 25 mg for 3 days. Does this sounds ok?

The tightness in my heart is unbelieveable. It gets worse when I type,

probably from stress. I remember that was one of my first symptoms

in 2007: The more I wrote, the more I chatted with people, the more

tightness in my chest... Does that make any sense?

>

> >Taking 15 mcg T3 daily now. Ferritin is at 66, and I keep taking 50 mg

> >Iron daily. With my 25 mg HC daily. I sleep from midnight/1 am to 9/10

> >am.

>

> I don't know why those symptoms hopefully they will ease as you get

> less hypo.

>

> You are going to have to increase that iron to at least 100 a day.

> That ferritin of 66 was measured without a 5 day break from

> supplementing so is skewed a bit on the high side

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

Nick,

The pressure/tightness is worse now.

But my pulse is not very fast (more slower than normally!), and temp is not

high. So... Isn't this a PURE low T3 symptom? Low thyroid? I mean..

Maybe I should increase to 20 mcg T3, eventhough it was only yesterday

that I went up to 15 from 10 mcg daily?

This is scary!!

[Guest guest]

Nick,

The pressure/tightness is worse now.

But my pulse is not very fast (more slower than normally!), and temp is not

high. So... Isn't this a PURE low T3 symptom? Low thyroid? I mean..

Maybe I should increase to 20 mcg T3, eventhough it was only yesterday

that I went up to 15 from 10 mcg daily?

This is scary!!

[Guest guest]

>

> Pam, thanks for your feedback!

>

> What did you do to start tolerating thyroid meds again? HC? What

> change did you do?

>

> I have been under-medicated for 2 years now. Just started HC in June,

> and went off of a try with 1 grain dessicated thyroid to 10 mcg T3.

> I take 15 mcg T3 daily now. Too little, I know.

>

> Just need to get those T3 hormones into my cells!!

>

> I _hate_ this tightness! Feels like I am dying!!

Hi

I also hated that tightness/pressure in my chest especially when I was awake

early morning unable to get back to sleep. It really used to scare me and I

just had to get in the habit of saying to myself that oh well if I was going to

have a heart attack so be it! I had read it was a hypo symptom so just kept

telling myself that.

I was able to tolerate 1 grain of dessicated by supporting my adrenals with low

dose Prednisolone plus extra small doses of h/c. I don't do well with high

doses of anything so for me what works is 2.5 Pred on waking followed by 2.5 h/c

before I get up. This lasts all morning and around 1 pm I need another 1 mg

Pred plus 2.5 h/c. This will last till late afternoon when all I need is 2.5

h/c and usually that is it for the day. Occasionally I might need to add about

1 h/c in the evening if I feel a bit woozy. Again if I take 2.5 h/c in the

evening I won't sleep well.

Its been really hard to build up the thyroid meds for me. I can tolerate 1

grain dessicated but that's all, having gone to 1 1/2 grain but got toxic

symptoms again so today back down. If I have taken 1 grain on waking around 6

am then I do well with 6.2 T3 around 9 am, 12.5 around 1 pm and 6.2 around 4 pm.

That seems to work quite well for me but I am very aware what suits one person

doesn't suit another.

There is no way I can tolerate high doses of any hormones, they make me feel

worse.

I have done a lot of chelation of heavy metals to get them out of my body so

this might be why I don't need high doses of endocrine hormones. I also take

lots of separate minerals each day because I have tested low on most of them.

Good luck with it.

Pam

[Guest guest]

>

> Pam, thanks for your feedback!

>

> What did you do to start tolerating thyroid meds again? HC? What

> change did you do?

>

> I have been under-medicated for 2 years now. Just started HC in June,

> and went off of a try with 1 grain dessicated thyroid to 10 mcg T3.

> I take 15 mcg T3 daily now. Too little, I know.

>

> Just need to get those T3 hormones into my cells!!

>

> I _hate_ this tightness! Feels like I am dying!!

Hi

I also hated that tightness/pressure in my chest especially when I was awake

early morning unable to get back to sleep. It really used to scare me and I

just had to get in the habit of saying to myself that oh well if I was going to

have a heart attack so be it! I had read it was a hypo symptom so just kept

telling myself that.

I was able to tolerate 1 grain of dessicated by supporting my adrenals with low

dose Prednisolone plus extra small doses of h/c. I don't do well with high

doses of anything so for me what works is 2.5 Pred on waking followed by 2.5 h/c

before I get up. This lasts all morning and around 1 pm I need another 1 mg

Pred plus 2.5 h/c. This will last till late afternoon when all I need is 2.5

h/c and usually that is it for the day. Occasionally I might need to add about

1 h/c in the evening if I feel a bit woozy. Again if I take 2.5 h/c in the

evening I won't sleep well.

Its been really hard to build up the thyroid meds for me. I can tolerate 1

grain dessicated but that's all, having gone to 1 1/2 grain but got toxic

symptoms again so today back down. If I have taken 1 grain on waking around 6

am then I do well with 6.2 T3 around 9 am, 12.5 around 1 pm and 6.2 around 4 pm.

That seems to work quite well for me but I am very aware what suits one person

doesn't suit another.

There is no way I can tolerate high doses of any hormones, they make me feel

worse.

I have done a lot of chelation of heavy metals to get them out of my body so

this might be why I don't need high doses of endocrine hormones. I also take

lots of separate minerals each day because I have tested low on most of them.

Good luck with it.

Pam

[Guest guest]

>

> Pam, thanks for your feedback!

>

> What did you do to start tolerating thyroid meds again? HC? What

> change did you do?

>

> I have been under-medicated for 2 years now. Just started HC in June,

> and went off of a try with 1 grain dessicated thyroid to 10 mcg T3.

> I take 15 mcg T3 daily now. Too little, I know.

>

> Just need to get those T3 hormones into my cells!!

>

> I _hate_ this tightness! Feels like I am dying!!

Hi

I also hated that tightness/pressure in my chest especially when I was awake

early morning unable to get back to sleep. It really used to scare me and I

just had to get in the habit of saying to myself that oh well if I was going to

have a heart attack so be it! I had read it was a hypo symptom so just kept

telling myself that.

I was able to tolerate 1 grain of dessicated by supporting my adrenals with low

dose Prednisolone plus extra small doses of h/c. I don't do well with high

doses of anything so for me what works is 2.5 Pred on waking followed by 2.5 h/c

before I get up. This lasts all morning and around 1 pm I need another 1 mg

Pred plus 2.5 h/c. This will last till late afternoon when all I need is 2.5

h/c and usually that is it for the day. Occasionally I might need to add about

1 h/c in the evening if I feel a bit woozy. Again if I take 2.5 h/c in the

evening I won't sleep well.

Its been really hard to build up the thyroid meds for me. I can tolerate 1

grain dessicated but that's all, having gone to 1 1/2 grain but got toxic

symptoms again so today back down. If I have taken 1 grain on waking around 6

am then I do well with 6.2 T3 around 9 am, 12.5 around 1 pm and 6.2 around 4 pm.

That seems to work quite well for me but I am very aware what suits one person

doesn't suit another.

There is no way I can tolerate high doses of any hormones, they make me feel

worse.

I have done a lot of chelation of heavy metals to get them out of my body so

this might be why I don't need high doses of endocrine hormones. I also take

lots of separate minerals each day because I have tested low on most of them.

Good luck with it.

Pam

[Guest guest]

I know for me any emotions good or bed, and any little activity triggered my

heart pain when I was so bed and just started the HC. I also was watching and

trying to analyze what was causing my heart problem and when you are asking if

T3 can be causing it,I remember I was worried about that to.When I joined the

forum I started with 25mg HC and stayed for a few weeks and I had to increase to

35mg and stayed on it for at least 3 months before I could increase the T3 more

the 5mcg.I tried taking higher T3 for year and a half before my adrenal support

but never worked out,I could not tolerate it.It took me 3 months being on 35mg

HC to be able to increase T3 higher then 5mcg.I got to 20mcg T3 then had to back

of for awhile again and again and was a building process.My thyroid is partly

removed so I had to stay on some T4 during this time and could not go on T3

only,which was the only way to fix my RT3.The problem was that my body would not

tolerate it because of the AF and then my very low ferritin. A month ago I took

iron IVs and being on 35mg Hc for a 5months I finally stopped the T4 and went on

T3 only.My experience is that this is the first time I started getting some real

improvement and in the whole picture my heart improved also.I'm still having on

a moments some discomfort with the heart but like I told you nothing close to

what I had before. So it's all connected.

Hope you will get better soon.

Milena

In the begginig of being on HC even on 25mg I could not tolerate more then

2.5mcg T3.All I did was staying in bed.I was on 120mg

T4 for 22 years and before finding the forum I tried adding T3 to T4 and did not

work. So when I joined the forum I was in a very bed shape and now

> >

> > >Taking 15 mcg T3 daily now. Ferritin is at 66, and I keep taking 50 mg

> > >Iron daily. With my 25 mg HC daily. I sleep from midnight/1 am to 9/10

> > >am.

> >

> > I don't know why those symptoms hopefully they will ease as you get

> > less hypo.

> >

> > You are going to have to increase that iron to at least 100 a day.

> > That ferritin of 66 was measured without a 5 day break from

> > supplementing so is skewed a bit on the high side

> >

> > Nick

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If you are trying to raise the T3 why don't you do it with 2,5mcg and see what

happeneds. I know by myself in the begining 2.5mcg T3 was a big amount.Just my 2

cents here.

Milena

>

> Nick,

>

> The pressure/tightness is worse now.

>

> But my pulse is not very fast (more slower than normally!), and temp is not

high. So... Isn't this a PURE low T3 symptom? Low thyroid? I mean..

> Maybe I should increase to 20 mcg T3, eventhough it was only yesterday

> that I went up to 15 from 10 mcg daily?

>

> This is scary!!

>