Re: Help - Heart just started beating VERY slowly and IRREGULARLY

[Guest guest]

As the dosing page of Nick's website says; If you get high temp and

fast pulse, lower your T3 dose again and wait to increase it.

Well. Looks like I get way other symptoms: When I take too much T3,

like now, IF I take too much, I get pressure on my heart and more of

a slower pulse.

I don't get this. What's going on with me? Maybe I don't need any

meds at all?

[Guest guest]

As the dosing page of Nick's website says; If you get high temp and

fast pulse, lower your T3 dose again and wait to increase it.

Well. Looks like I get way other symptoms: When I take too much T3,

like now, IF I take too much, I get pressure on my heart and more of

a slower pulse.

I don't get this. What's going on with me? Maybe I don't need any

meds at all?

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Pressure lasts...........

Should I increase HC now? Like I will make my third dose 7.5 mg instead of 5?

Than the total will be 27.5!

I am clueless to why I am so sick. These symptoms with the heart is just..

So hard to figure out!

What if I stop taking all thyroid medication? Would the transition to

my own Thyroid Gland go smoothly? It should have a normal function.

I am wondering if I have Hypothyroidism at all...

And WHY do I get this pressure? Exactly WHY? Does anyone know?

I am on 15 mcg T3 daily.

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Pressure lasts...........

Should I increase HC now? Like I will make my third dose 7.5 mg instead of 5?

Than the total will be 27.5!

I am clueless to why I am so sick. These symptoms with the heart is just..

So hard to figure out!

What if I stop taking all thyroid medication? Would the transition to

my own Thyroid Gland go smoothly? It should have a normal function.

I am wondering if I have Hypothyroidism at all...

And WHY do I get this pressure? Exactly WHY? Does anyone know?

I am on 15 mcg T3 daily.

[Guest guest]

Pressure lasts...........

Should I increase HC now? Like I will make my third dose 7.5 mg instead of 5?

Than the total will be 27.5!

I am clueless to why I am so sick. These symptoms with the heart is just..

So hard to figure out!

What if I stop taking all thyroid medication? Would the transition to

my own Thyroid Gland go smoothly? It should have a normal function.

I am wondering if I have Hypothyroidism at all...

And WHY do I get this pressure? Exactly WHY? Does anyone know?

I am on 15 mcg T3 daily.

[Guest guest]

Is it ok to take 10 instead of 15 mcg T3 today?

[Guest guest]

Is it ok to take 10 instead of 15 mcg T3 today?

[Guest guest]

Is it ok to take 10 instead of 15 mcg T3 today?

[Guest guest]

Temperatures usually are lower in the evening. Someone told me that once. That

even with taking hormone, they may still be low.

>

> Speaking of temperatures... It's just past midnight, and I took my last

> 2.5 mg HC dose at 9 pm, and my last 5 mcg T3 dose at 7:30 pm.

>

> Right now, my temperature is: 36.4/97.5F

>

> This is what my temp is like when I wake up. Is it normal that the

> temp dips like this around midnight, when you go to bed?

>

> I still have pressure on my chest . . .

>

[Guest guest]

Temperatures usually are lower in the evening. Someone told me that once. That

even with taking hormone, they may still be low.

>

> Speaking of temperatures... It's just past midnight, and I took my last

> 2.5 mg HC dose at 9 pm, and my last 5 mcg T3 dose at 7:30 pm.

>

> Right now, my temperature is: 36.4/97.5F

>

> This is what my temp is like when I wake up. Is it normal that the

> temp dips like this around midnight, when you go to bed?

>

> I still have pressure on my chest . . .

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah. I know the temp should get lower in the nighttime for sure.

So my dear friends.. I just got the pressure back, even without

taking my third dose of 5 mcg T3 for today. I skipped it to see if

the pressure wouldn't appear. But it did!

I am looking at my log. 3 weeks with ERFA Thyroid (with T3 in it)

and no pressure. On the very last day with ERFA Thyroid, before

starting T3-only, I got the pressure. I am looking at my log to find

out which changes I did, that might have caused the pressure to

appear.. And surely enough, 2 days before the pressure appeared,

I upped my HC dose to 22.5 mg, from 20. Now... Is it possible

to get tightness and pressure in the chest/heart from taking too much

HC?

I don't understand a thing! And this is dang scary!

I know what the experienced rT3-people are telling me:

I should take more HC so that the T3 will be tolerated...

But I am just so confused now! Feeling like I am about to die

any moment!

>

>

> Temperatures usually are lower in the evening. Someone told me that once. That

even with taking hormone, they may still be low.

[Guest guest]

Yeah. I know the temp should get lower in the nighttime for sure.

So my dear friends.. I just got the pressure back, even without

taking my third dose of 5 mcg T3 for today. I skipped it to see if

the pressure wouldn't appear. But it did!

I am looking at my log. 3 weeks with ERFA Thyroid (with T3 in it)

and no pressure. On the very last day with ERFA Thyroid, before

starting T3-only, I got the pressure. I am looking at my log to find

out which changes I did, that might have caused the pressure to

appear.. And surely enough, 2 days before the pressure appeared,

I upped my HC dose to 22.5 mg, from 20. Now... Is it possible

to get tightness and pressure in the chest/heart from taking too much

HC?

I don't understand a thing! And this is dang scary!

I know what the experienced rT3-people are telling me:

I should take more HC so that the T3 will be tolerated...

But I am just so confused now! Feeling like I am about to die

any moment!

>

>

> Temperatures usually are lower in the evening. Someone told me that once. That

even with taking hormone, they may still be low.

[Guest guest]

Yeah. I know the temp should get lower in the nighttime for sure.

So my dear friends.. I just got the pressure back, even without

taking my third dose of 5 mcg T3 for today. I skipped it to see if

the pressure wouldn't appear. But it did!

I am looking at my log. 3 weeks with ERFA Thyroid (with T3 in it)

and no pressure. On the very last day with ERFA Thyroid, before

starting T3-only, I got the pressure. I am looking at my log to find

out which changes I did, that might have caused the pressure to

appear.. And surely enough, 2 days before the pressure appeared,

I upped my HC dose to 22.5 mg, from 20. Now... Is it possible

to get tightness and pressure in the chest/heart from taking too much

HC?

I don't understand a thing! And this is dang scary!

I know what the experienced rT3-people are telling me:

I should take more HC so that the T3 will be tolerated...

But I am just so confused now! Feeling like I am about to die

any moment!

>

>

> Temperatures usually are lower in the evening. Someone told me that once. That

even with taking hormone, they may still be low.

[Guest guest]

Hey Nick,

If my temperatures are perfect, my Ferritin is at a (skewed) 66,

I am taking 27.5 mg HC daily, and 15 mcg T3 daily (only 10 mcg today

though, thinking of adding the last 5 now to see what happens -

I already have the pressure in my chest!) and my thyroid gland is

working perfectly... How will things be with taking T3-only?

What can I expect? I am one of those with a normal working thyroid gland.

It's important to remember. Yes, I am aware of the fact that I might

be non-hypothyroid, but I was hypothyroid when I was 13-14 and up til

18, when I got onto T4, and became Healthy for the next 10 years...

I have no idea if I am still hypothyroid, or not - Nobody knows!

That's why the hospital and the rough endos wanted to remove my meds,

to see how I would do without them! Besides, they didn't like that I

was on 100 mcg T4 and 40 mcg T3 - T3 being the culprit, in their

opinion, giving me tachycardia and fibrillation back in January 2008.

Anyway... *sigh* I feel horrible and don't know where to go from here!

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hey Nick,

If my temperatures are perfect, my Ferritin is at a (skewed) 66,

I am taking 27.5 mg HC daily, and 15 mcg T3 daily (only 10 mcg today

though, thinking of adding the last 5 now to see what happens -

I already have the pressure in my chest!) and my thyroid gland is

working perfectly... How will things be with taking T3-only?

What can I expect? I am one of those with a normal working thyroid gland.

It's important to remember. Yes, I am aware of the fact that I might

be non-hypothyroid, but I was hypothyroid when I was 13-14 and up til

18, when I got onto T4, and became Healthy for the next 10 years...

I have no idea if I am still hypothyroid, or not - Nobody knows!

That's why the hospital and the rough endos wanted to remove my meds,

to see how I would do without them! Besides, they didn't like that I

was on 100 mcg T4 and 40 mcg T3 - T3 being the culprit, in their

opinion, giving me tachycardia and fibrillation back in January 2008.

Anyway... *sigh* I feel horrible and don't know where to go from here!

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

My last 1 month of many changes and problems:

............

(!) I cut down from 75 to 50 mcg T4, started taking 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid

1 month ago.

(!) Did 50 mcg T4 and 1/2 grain Thyroid for 11 days.

(!) Went up to 1 grain Thyroid, kept taking those 50 mcg T4 for 6 days.

(!) Cut the T4, went on with 1 grain Thyroid for 6 days.

(!) Decided to change to T3-only, and took 10 mcg T3 (same amount T3 as in

1 grain Thyroid) for the first 3 days, then 15 mcg the next 2 days,

then 10 mcg again today.

(!) On the 10/12 I upped from 20 mg HC to 22.5 mg HC. On 14/12, the pressure

on my chest and tightness in my heart appeared, and it lasted for more

than 12 hours. I got no sleep that night with that pressure on my chest.

Notice that I hadn't started taking T3-only when the pressure appeared.

............

* Could it be that I just took too little HC (20 mg at the time) when I started

with ERFA Thyroid (and its 9 mcg T3) ?

* Can it be that I take too little HC now, at 27.5 mg HC daily, to tolerate the

10-15 mcg T3 I am taking these days?

* Can it be that I can't tolerate any HC dose over 20 mg daily?

* Can it be that I just ain't Hypothyroid anymore (for some reason) and don't

need any thyroid meds at all?

* Can it be that my body is rejecting any T3-meds for some reason, like I have

become allergic to it?

* Can it be that I just should've increased my ERFA Thyroid dose and waited

longer for it to work?

The only place I can get help for my T3-only plan is here! I feel very alone and

scared of dying at the moment!

[Guest guest]

My last 1 month of many changes and problems:

............

(!) I cut down from 75 to 50 mcg T4, started taking 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid

1 month ago.

(!) Did 50 mcg T4 and 1/2 grain Thyroid for 11 days.

(!) Went up to 1 grain Thyroid, kept taking those 50 mcg T4 for 6 days.

(!) Cut the T4, went on with 1 grain Thyroid for 6 days.

(!) Decided to change to T3-only, and took 10 mcg T3 (same amount T3 as in

1 grain Thyroid) for the first 3 days, then 15 mcg the next 2 days,

then 10 mcg again today.

(!) On the 10/12 I upped from 20 mg HC to 22.5 mg HC. On 14/12, the pressure

on my chest and tightness in my heart appeared, and it lasted for more

than 12 hours. I got no sleep that night with that pressure on my chest.

Notice that I hadn't started taking T3-only when the pressure appeared.

............

* Could it be that I just took too little HC (20 mg at the time) when I started

with ERFA Thyroid (and its 9 mcg T3) ?

* Can it be that I take too little HC now, at 27.5 mg HC daily, to tolerate the

10-15 mcg T3 I am taking these days?

* Can it be that I can't tolerate any HC dose over 20 mg daily?

* Can it be that I just ain't Hypothyroid anymore (for some reason) and don't

need any thyroid meds at all?

* Can it be that my body is rejecting any T3-meds for some reason, like I have

become allergic to it?

* Can it be that I just should've increased my ERFA Thyroid dose and waited

longer for it to work?

The only place I can get help for my T3-only plan is here! I feel very alone and

scared of dying at the moment!

[Guest guest]

The question is:Should I take 10 or 15 mcg T3 tomorrow? And how fast can I increase HC? I am at 27.5 mg HC now, starting this day that passed now.

[Guest guest]

The question is:Should I take 10 or 15 mcg T3 tomorrow? And how fast can I increase HC? I am at 27.5 mg HC now, starting this day that passed now.

[Guest guest]

I skipped taking T3 this morning. It's not almost noon and no pressure still. I took my 10 mg HC at 10:45 am. So it can't be the HC creating pressure! I feel weird in my chest, but no real pressure.Should I try T3 now? It can be dangerous just STOPPING taking it right?

[Guest guest]

I skipped taking T3 this morning. It's not almost noon and no pressure still. I took my 10 mg HC at 10:45 am. So it can't be the HC creating pressure! I feel weird in my chest, but no real pressure.Should I try T3 now? It can be dangerous just STOPPING taking it right?

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>

>Let's say I take my first T3 at 10 am. Then I can do the first 25 mg

>Iron at 11 am, right? BUT THEN I have to wait 4 hours, til 3 pm before

>taking T3 again. But second T3 dose is now scheduled daily at 2 pm!

>But this cannot be done if I take Iron 1 hour after taking T3 at

>10 am! How do I do this?

44 unanswered messages in this thread, it will take time to deal with

them!! I will try and do most this evening.

If you let the T3 dissolve under your tongue there is no interaction

with iron at all

Nick

[Guest guest]

>

>Let's say I take my first T3 at 10 am. Then I can do the first 25 mg

>Iron at 11 am, right? BUT THEN I have to wait 4 hours, til 3 pm before

>taking T3 again. But second T3 dose is now scheduled daily at 2 pm!

>But this cannot be done if I take Iron 1 hour after taking T3 at

>10 am! How do I do this?

44 unanswered messages in this thread, it will take time to deal with

them!! I will try and do most this evening.

If you let the T3 dissolve under your tongue there is no interaction

with iron at all

Nick

[Guest guest]

>

>Let's say I take my first T3 at 10 am. Then I can do the first 25 mg

>Iron at 11 am, right? BUT THEN I have to wait 4 hours, til 3 pm before

>taking T3 again. But second T3 dose is now scheduled daily at 2 pm!

>But this cannot be done if I take Iron 1 hour after taking T3 at

>10 am! How do I do this?

44 unanswered messages in this thread, it will take time to deal with

them!! I will try and do most this evening.

If you let the T3 dissolve under your tongue there is no interaction

with iron at all

Nick

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I took my last T3-dose 21 hours ago, at 3:30 pm yesterday. Skipped my second dose becauseI got this pressure on my chest again.I also skipped my first T3-dose today at 10 am. Now it's almost 1 pm, and my temperatureis maybe a little low, at 36.7 C (98.1 F) - It should be 36.9/37.0 (98.4/98.6) by now.I am not sure if I measure correctly. I do wait 20 minutes after I eat and drink to measure.But sometimes, I measure over and over in different places in my mouth and get differentresults. Now I get 36.7 (98.1) to 36.9 (98.4) depending on where I measure. HMMM!!!What does all this mean? Shouldn't my temperature drop even more if I don't take T3 for 24hours? Or is this little drop, IF the temp is really 36.7 (98.1) now, proof that I need to takemy first T3 dose for today?Maybe I'm not really hypo? If I stop

taking the T3- med, maybe I'll stat using my own gland,and either become 100% healthy OR get slooooowly hypo again cause of some level ofcellresistance...!?SO much uncertainty!!!!!It's driving me absolutely insane...