Re: (unknown)

December 28, 2004

Intenzyme Forte from Biotics is working very well.

Loyd http://www.royalrife.com

[ ] (unknown)

To all

Wobe Mugos have been discontinued. They are not making them anymore. There

was a place in Mexico you could get them. They were much more powerful. I

tried the wobenzymes and they made me very ill so I don't know what to take.

The and are very expensive but they are from New Zealand and

have no antibiotics or hormones in them.But now I am hearing some from New

Zealand will not guarantee which kind they are from pork or cow.I think I

remember it takes about 82 a day

for type and about $600 a month??Everything gets old but looking at

my sick sis who is going thru chemo makes me think pill popping and flax oil

sauces and smoothies are the way to go!! She was grey and now is bright red

and swollen from the steroids.Has one more and I hope it doesn't kill

her.She won't listen to anyone but the oncologist.I am off to Savannah to

see my son before he goes to Iraq.

lind

January 3, 2005

Faith,

Hopefully has helped you understand the RF. I just had to add

that I DON'T have a lot of obvious swelling or redness, yet my sed

rate is continually high. Most of the time it's in the 60's and has

gone over 100 many times. Yet to look at my joints, they are only

mildly inflamed. Unfortunately the bone erosion is invisible so you

can't see the extent of my damage unless you look at my x-rays.

a

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 07:06:33 +0000, fmt2002@...

<fmt2002@...> wrote:

>

> Does anyone know how a rheumatoid factor of 487 is classified?

> I believe this is a different type of result than the 1:80, 1:64 etc that is

usually used. ( I think it is a newer type of test for rheumatoid factor) I just

know that when they talk about the ratio titers, they associate different

diseases to different levels of the factor...I have not been able to find

anything about this type of measurement except that <60 is negative. Any input

you might have is appreciated

>

> Also why would a SED rate be normal when a person has obvious signs of

inflammation in multiple joints? ( redness, swelling, severe pain)

>

> Faith

>

January 3, 2005

Faith,

Hopefully has helped you understand the RF. I just had to add

that I DON'T have a lot of obvious swelling or redness, yet my sed

rate is continually high. Most of the time it's in the 60's and has

gone over 100 many times. Yet to look at my joints, they are only

mildly inflamed. Unfortunately the bone erosion is invisible so you

can't see the extent of my damage unless you look at my x-rays.

a

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 07:06:33 +0000, fmt2002@...

<fmt2002@...> wrote:

>

> Does anyone know how a rheumatoid factor of 487 is classified?

> I believe this is a different type of result than the 1:80, 1:64 etc that is

usually used. ( I think it is a newer type of test for rheumatoid factor) I just

know that when they talk about the ratio titers, they associate different

diseases to different levels of the factor...I have not been able to find

anything about this type of measurement except that <60 is negative. Any input

you might have is appreciated

>

> Also why would a SED rate be normal when a person has obvious signs of

inflammation in multiple joints? ( redness, swelling, severe pain)

>

> Faith

>

January 4, 2005

ROFLMAO!!! You are right about me not being normal..LOL..I agree..All I knowis crawfish is back in season and Mardi Gras is Feb. 8th!!!! I am ready for both of them..LOL..A friend has been sending me e-mails but I haven't been getting them..Looks like you all are..Hey SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I haven't caught the bug that's going around yet!!! I'm bionic..I can't catch that shit..My head still hurts from hitting it on the damn door though..Think I got a slight concussion..Hey ya think it knocked some sense in me???Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

Oh come now Jan. You haven't been normal since I've known you, why now? lol I read a wonderful saying once "Normal is a cycle on a washing machine." My "baby" got her driver's license yesterday and I have given her my truck to drive. The males around here are driving me crazy, so I guess things are normal here.

SharonJanet <jfw4359@...> wrote:

Hey where is everyone?????? I must be here alone..LOL..I hope everyone's holidays were good..I'm just glad to get back to normal..whatever that is..LOL..

Jan

Do you ?The all-new My – Get yours free!

Do you ?The all-new My – Get yours free! Jan __________________________________________________

January 4, 2005

Hi Terry!!! I haven't caught the bug yet.I'm hiding from it..LOL..It sure is nice hearing from all of you..I have been lonesome..I spoke with Diane the other day..Her daughter is visiting till the 12th I think..She's happy.Her mom isn't doing well..My heart goes out to her..Where is Dave...Rick..Barbara..Lynn and all of those I have forgotten due to CRS!!!! LOL..Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

Hi Jan. It's 3:00 here & I just got home from work. Feeling like something that even the cat's wouldn't drag in. was sick last week & over the weekend. I guess he thought he should share with ole Dad. TerryJanet <jfw4359@...> wrote:

Hey where is everyone?????? I must be here alone..LOL..I hope everyone's holidays were good..I'm just glad to get back to normal..whatever that is..LOL..

Jan

Do you ?The all-new My – Get yours free!

Do you ? - You care about security. So do we. Jan __________________________________________________

January 5, 2005

hahahahah one more............... thought you would like this one

trash

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:18:52 -0600 Zierhart <dhz920@...> writes:

Well, thanks to God that I recovered from my bout with hcv (3 years undetectable at last test), I am living with 2 females, my mom and wife, both disabled, so I guess I have to keep healthy.... Believe me, even though it's my mom, those females do gang up on me!! -dz-

January 5, 2005

Sorry folks, this message I sent earlier probably made no sense to anyone. I meant to send it to my dh and not the group.

trish

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:37:27 -0600 standup7@... writes:

hahahahah one more............... thought you would like this one

trash

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:18:52 -0600 Zierhart <dhz920@...> writes:

Well, thanks to God that I recovered from my bout with hcv (3 years undetectable at last test), I am living with 2 females, my mom and wife, both disabled, so I guess I have to keep healthy.... Believe me, even though it's my mom, those females do gang up on me!! -dz-

January 5, 2005

Don't you know you're supposed to OPEN the door before you go through?

SharonJanet <jfw4359@...> wrote:

ROFLMAO!!! You are right about me not being normal..LOL..I agree..All I knowis crawfish is back in season and Mardi Gras is Feb. 8th!!!! I am ready for both of them..LOL..A friend has been sending me e-mails but I haven't been getting them..Looks like you all are..Hey SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I haven't caught the bug that's going around yet!!! I'm bionic..I can't catch that shit..My head still hurts from hitting it on the damn door though..Think I got a slight concussion..Hey ya think it knocked some sense in me???Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

Oh come now Jan. You haven't been normal since I've known you, why now? lol I read a wonderful saying once "Normal is a cycle on a washing machine." My "baby" got her driver's license yesterday and I have given her my truck to drive. The males around here are driving me crazy, so I guess things are normal here.

SharonJanet <jfw4359@...> wrote:

Hey where is everyone?????? I must be here alone..LOL..I hope everyone's holidays were good..I'm just glad to get back to normal..whatever that is..LOL..

Jan

Do you ?The all-new My – Get yours free!

Jan

__________________________________________________

January 12, 2005

Trudy,

I can relate to what you said about applying for disability..I am in those same

shoes right now..at 44, I am not ready to give up on working..but right now this

is what I have to do.

Take care,

Faith

-------------- Original message --------------

I filed for Disability Yestersay. That was not fun the guy made me

feel like I should not be there. I miss working. I used to drive a

bus for Head Start ( I love the 3,4, & 5 yr olds). My hands are so

deformed I can not make a fist. I feel like I am giving up by

signing up for Disability,Like the RA has won. But deep down I know

this is the right thing for me.

Just to let you know I am married with 2 children (girl 14 and boy

12 )and I am 35. When I was 12 I was dia. with Juv.RA. My dad

figured since it was JRA I would grow ot of it. I had a great

remission through most of my teen years. In 1997 I started having

flares and for the last 7 years i have been fighting to keep

working. My husband is great he helps me with a lot of my daily

living.

Enough about me. I have been reading all of your emails and yo seem

like a great bunch. I look forward to getting to know you.

Trudy

January 12, 2005

Trudy,

I can relate to what you said about applying for disability..I am in those same

shoes right now..at 44, I am not ready to give up on working..but right now this

is what I have to do.

Take care,

Faith

-------------- Original message --------------

I filed for Disability Yestersay. That was not fun the guy made me

feel like I should not be there. I miss working. I used to drive a

bus for Head Start ( I love the 3,4, & 5 yr olds). My hands are so

deformed I can not make a fist. I feel like I am giving up by

signing up for Disability,Like the RA has won. But deep down I know

this is the right thing for me.

Just to let you know I am married with 2 children (girl 14 and boy

12 )and I am 35. When I was 12 I was dia. with Juv.RA. My dad

figured since it was JRA I would grow ot of it. I had a great

remission through most of my teen years. In 1997 I started having

flares and for the last 7 years i have been fighting to keep

working. My husband is great he helps me with a lot of my daily

living.

Enough about me. I have been reading all of your emails and yo seem

like a great bunch. I look forward to getting to know you.

Trudy

January 19, 2005

I don't even talk to girl scouts. I never let my daughter go around knocking on doors.

The cookies are garbage.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: fskelton@...

support group

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:02 PM

Subject: [ ] (unknown)

Folks: I am visiting my grandkids. On the plus side, I have taught them to read ingredients on labels of processed foods (and I hope they will educate their parents who are my daughter and son-in-law). On the minus side, my grandaughters belong to the girl scouts who are still selling those cookies.The cookies are a compilation of the absolute worst that processed food has to offer. I expected sugar to be the first and major ingredient and I was not disappointed. But also in all flavors of cookies are trans fats and high fructose corn syrup. Isn't it about time that major organizations like the boy/girl scouts should be teaching proper eating habits to young kids instead of asking them to go around selling these unhealthy products? Especially in light of the obesity epidemic in which children are affected? To me it's almost as bad as asking kids to go door to door selling cartons of cigarettes.

January 19, 2005

Not only do I agree (and they say I'm contrary), but I would encourage you to

prod your

grandchildren to start asking if next years batch of cookies could at least lose

the trans-fats.

I don't see how shelf life is that much of an issue for GS cookies that afaik

have a half life of

days/weeks.

I don't know if GS have merit badges but that sounds like a real " educational "

group project.

Unfortunately I suspect the " business " side of the GS cookie business will not

be amused.

But that's all the more reason to pursue.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: fskelton@... [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:02 PM

support group

Subject: [ ] (unknown)

Folks: I am visiting my grandkids. On the plus side, I have

taught them to read ingredients on labels of processed foods

(and I hope they will educate their parents who are my

daughter and son-in-law). On the minus side, my

grandaughters belong to the girl scouts who are still selling

those cookies.

The cookies are a compilation of the absolute worst that

processed food has to offer. I expected sugar to be the

first and major ingredient and I was not disappointed. But

also in all flavors of cookies are trans fats and high

fructose corn syrup. Isn't it about time that major

organizations like the boy/girl scouts should be teaching

proper eating habits to young kids instead of asking them to

go around selling these unhealthy products? Especially in

light of the obesity epidemic in which children are affected?

To me it's almost as bad as asking kids to go door to door

selling cartons of cigarettes.

January 27, 2005

Darin and Janie. Thanks you for sharing in writing the pain you are

feeling. Continue to remember all those special times with your precious

angel.

Each moment has its own significant meaning that no one can ever take out of

your memory.

May you be most truly blessed at this time of her anniversary of being your

special angel. and may you also be blessed as you continue to minister to

others in thoughts, words and deeds for each of their individual needs.

Affectionately

Virginia

January 27, 2005

Virginia thank you so much for your kind words. They mean the world to us. May

God bless you and keep you and your family healthy and safe. We will keep you in

our prayers.

Darin and Janie

In a message dated 1/27/2005 10:52:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

virginiaedward@... writes:

>

>Darin and Janie. Thanks you for sharing in writing the pain you are

>feeling. Continue to remember all those special times with your precious

angel.

>Each moment has its own significant meaning that no one can ever take out of

>your memory.

>May you be most truly blessed at this time of her anniversary of being your

>special angel. and may you also be blessed as you continue to minister to

>others in thoughts, words and deeds for each of their individual needs.

>Affectionately

>Virginia

>

January 28, 2005

I'm feeling really frustrated andconfused, because I feel like I'm not asking the right questions ormaking the right decisions and I just feel like I've already failedCameron.Anne <-feeling really alone right nowAnne,

I don't know how long it will take for you to get this because I am new and my posts are still moderated by but.....

YOU HAVE NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO FAILING YOUR SON!!!

He is still young and you are doing ALL the right things!!!

My son is 11 and is JUST NOW getting his correct diagnosis and interventions!! Talk about feeling like you've failed your kid!!

You're doing great, you are NOT alone but I totally understand that feeling!

Hang in there, everything will be ok.

-Charlotte

January 31, 2005

Great Letter. The oncologists have a vested interest in getting you to take

expensive [yet deadly] treatments so they aren't about to tell you there are

alternatives.

When your son goes to medical school, send him to a real college. In the U.S.,

they just indoctrinate them into believing they are above the rest of us -- and

know more than we ever well.

I'll take my *ignorance* any day.

----- Original Message -----

From: BLONDELDYINBLK

I am sick of oncologists who have never heard of any alternative treatments

working. They have never gone to Amazon.com and read the lists of books written

by ordinary folks who have cured themselves. I bought 2 books by Moss and

if you send me your address I will send send you one copy..............

February 1, 2005

IT'S ALL A SCAM; DOCTORS AREN'T ALLOWED TO USE ANY TREATMENTS OTHER THAN FDA

APPROVED TYPES !

THEY SAY ONLY A DISEASE CAN BE TREATED DIAGNOSED OR CURED BY DRUGS,

NO MATTER HOW LETHAL TO THE PATIENT.

THAT IS WHY MORE AND MORE COMMON EVERYDAY AILMENTS ARE BEING CLASSED AND CALLED

DISEASES THESE DAYS

FOR INSTANCE ACID REFLUX

AMAZING HOW MY GRANDFATHER FIXED THAT WITH A LITTLE VINEGAR AND NOW IT'S A MAJOR

UNIVERSAL DISEASE THAT REQUIRES DRUGS FOR TREATMENT

THE BOTTOM LINE IS ALWAYS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

SORRY TO SAY WE AR JUST DYING FOR DOLLARS

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT DISASTER.........BOUND TO BE SOMETHING LIKE

CROSSEYED TOENAIL DISEASE

SORRY FOLKS JUST VENTING

ROY

February 1, 2005

you're right! they will never tell you to use or that it's ok to use something

that they can't write a prescription for

C

" koondawggie1@... " <koondawggie1@...> wrote:

IT'S ALL A SCAM; DOCTORS AREN'T ALLOWED TO USE ANY TREATMENTS OTHER THAN FDA

APPROVED TYPES !

THEY SAY ONLY A DISEASE CAN BE TREATED DIAGNOSED OR CURED BY DRUGS,

NO MATTER HOW LETHAL TO THE PATIENT.

THAT IS WHY MORE AND MORE COMMON EVERYDAY AILMENTS ARE BEING CLASSED AND CALLED

DISEASES THESE DAYS

FOR INSTANCE ACID REFLUX

AMAZING HOW MY GRANDFATHER FIXED THAT WITH A LITTLE VINEGAR AND NOW IT'S A MAJOR

UNIVERSAL DISEASE THAT REQUIRES DRUGS FOR TREATMENT

THE BOTTOM LINE IS ALWAYS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

SORRY TO SAY WE AR JUST DYING FOR DOLLARS

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT DISASTER.........BOUND TO BE SOMETHING LIKE

CROSSEYED TOENAIL DISEASE

SORRY FOLKS JUST VENTING

ROY

February 1, 2005

Try the local arts and crft stores..They have that spary stuff.. The kind you can use of hair even..Kathy boo

(unknown)

Hi Guys,

I had a plan. I was ( & still am) so tired of white that I planned to buy some spray paint & paint myself some flowers on the snow banks, Pink & green & purple - beautiful. Today the temps are all above freezing so the snow banks are melting. If they get much smaller it won't be possible to paint ! I can't believe I'm saying this - I wish it would snow & get a bit colder. Luckily I haven't bought the paint yet. I'm feeling a bit blue today.

Suzie

February 1, 2005

Jeanne - what a GREAT explanation on the subject! I sent that on to my brothers,

for use at their clinic. Thanks for sharing!

__________________________________________________

February 1, 2005

Suz I have thought of doing the same thing..Getting tired of cold wheather and snow..Kathy B. ps can't sleep??booo

(unknown)

Hi Guys,

I had a plan. I was ( & still am) so tired of white that I planned to buy some spray paint & paint myself some flowers on the snow banks, Pink & green & purple - beautiful. Today the temps are all above freezing so the snow banks are melting. If they get much smaller it won't be possible to paint ! I can't believe I'm saying this - I wish it would snow & get a bit colder. Luckily I haven't bought the paint yet. I'm feeling a bit blue today.

Suzie

February 2, 2005

Hi there,

I just have to say that your symptoms sound exactly like mine...I'm sorry you are having such a hard day and I hope you get some relief soon. I see a physiatrist on Monday, nothing I can think to do in the meantime except try to medicate myself and keep plugging away at work. Last night I cried the whole way home from work. If anyone has suggestions for this I'm all ears as well. (I have bulged discs thru my cervical spine, one is herniated and compressing my spinal cord).

Tammyboxersinc20042004 <boxersinc20042004@...> wrote:

Having a real rough day painwise today same yesterday. Pain all through my neck and into both shoulders. Also have headaches. Seeing PM doctor on Friday. Seeing a NS on Tuesday.MRI is showing disc protrusion at most levels of my Cervical spine and evidently this is occuring at my thoracic spine too. Hand is numb and I have arm weakness. I'm at wits end. I'm going to work each day, but it is getting harder to function and at night I'm dead. all I can do is sit on a recliner and rest my neck.Any suggestions?

February 3, 2005

Hi,

I have severe upper back pain between my shoulders and slightly to the

right above the bra strap line. I also have neck pain, sometimes my

hand and arm feel numb and also the side of my face. I am 50 yrs old

and have worked 34 full time years in a grocery store. I was wondering

if anybody has had similiar symptoms?

I also get pain in my front right side that gets pretty intense at times

like a stich you would get in your side when running.

The doctor has done a chest exray, upper and lower ultra-sound and ct

scan. These showed spodilosis of the lower back and a slightly fatty

liver. Everything seems to improve considerably when I'm not working

and also improved dramatically for 3 days after receivng a deep massage

and chiropractic treatment. Something else really strange happened when

the chiropractor was doing the electo-heat ultra sound thing. When he

moved the paddle over the right side of my upper back my right front

side (around my liver) began spasming uncontrollably. I had to tell him

to turn it down. I felt nothing when he moved it over my left side of

my back and still kept feeling the spasms after he turned it down and

moved it over the right. He didn't know what it was. Maybe a irritated

nerve. Any ideas?

Thanks.

February 3, 2005