Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

Maybe it was the address attached...?

stewpot@...

thomas greaber <tom5255@...> wrote:

Attention all menbers of remote list

I did NOT write the below email apparently someone has decided to hijack my

email address. I have no experience with Ex-med but have heard nothing bad

about them and wish them well

Again I DID NOT WRITE thie belwo email

Regards

Z Greaber

owner of tom5255@...

>From: tom5255@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:23:20 -0700

>

>Ref Offshore medics courses

>

>I heard that these guys running this course at Ex Med, have not worked

>offshore,

>so doubt that they can advise on various Environmental and industry

>related issues.

>

>I also heard that they have not paid for their offshore medics

>course which they attended at a reputed UK establishment, where no doubt

>the

>grounding and content of their course will have come from.

>

>I would stick to the more well recognised training centres, as anyone

>can loook up the required regulations for the course and prepare a

>training program, but with out the industry exoerience, I doubt that it

>can be of any use to experienced Military Medics and Nurses out there

>wanting to go work offshore.

>

>--

>

> stewpot@...

>

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---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Folks,

I can verify that this was not from Tom Greaber.

The IP addresses on the two messages have been

checked and the one used for the tom5255 message

was not on his service providers network. This has

been forwarded to a contact in the high tech crime

unit along with all header data from our list

server as this is an offence under the computer

misuse act in the UK.

Ross

> (unknown)

> >Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:23:20 -0700

> >

> >Ref Offshore medics courses

> >

> >I heard that these guys running this

> course at Ex Med, have not worked

> >offshore,

> >so doubt that they can advise on

> various Environmental and industry

> >related issues.

> >

> >I also heard that they have not paid

> for their offshore medics

> >course which they attended at a

> reputed UK establishment, where no doubt

> >the

> >grounding and content of their course

> will have come from.

> >

> >I would stick to the more well

> recognised training centres, as anyone

> >can loook up the required regulations

> for the course and prepare a

> >training program, but with out the

> industry exoerience, I doubt that it

> >can be of any use to experienced

> Military Medics and Nurses out there

> >wanting to go work offshore.

> >

> >--

> >

> > stewpot@...

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This shows the problem with this " Group " - I too have heard nothing but

good about Ex - med for the last few years, and would suggest that they

are far more credible than many for preparing you as a Remote medic.

Is there no way of tracking who sent this?

Dave Halliwell MSc SRPara

Head of Education and Professional Development

Dorset Ambulance NHS Trust

(unknown)

>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:23:20 -0700

>

>Ref Offshore medics courses

>

>I heard that these guys running this course at Ex Med, have not worked

>offshore,

>so doubt that they can advise on various Environmental and industry

>related issues.

>

>I also heard that they have not paid for their offshore medics

>course which they attended at a reputed UK establishment, where no

doubt

>the

>grounding and content of their course will have come from.

>

>I would stick to the more well recognised training centres, as anyone

>can loook up the required regulations for the course and prepare a

>training program, but with out the industry exoerience, I doubt that it

>can be of any use to experienced Military Medics and Nurses out there

>wanting to go work offshore.

>

>--

>

> stewpot@...

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome to the group. My daughter, was diagnosed back

in January with Scoliosis and had her surgery on February 21st this year. She

is doing remarkably well her doctors tell me.

I know how scary this time is for you, and your daughter, so if you ever need to

vent....just let me know.

Guidry <steff673@...> wrote:

hi, my name is . My daughter has recently been diagnosed

with

scoliosis. Her name is and she is 15.

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I got 92..Great huh.. My Grandma lived to 84...Kathy B..

-- RE: (unknown)

I got 80, don't know if I want to live that long, I was gonna follow my Gran's example - she died at 64 of a heart attack after a night on the town with her 46 year old fiance (who thought she was 54) Lady knew how to live. SuzieGail Deveaux <gaila@...> wrote:

I will live to be 84.Hope they are right.

Gail

http://deveauxkennels.tk

mailto:gaila@...

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of suzieSent: May 23, 2005 4:12 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: (unknown)

Hello again,

Here's another one. How long will you live? Watch the number in the corner change with every answer. http://www.nmfn.com/tnetwork/longevity_game_popup.html

Suzie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

I got 92..Great huh.. My Grandma lived to 84...Kathy B..

-- RE: (unknown)

I got 80, don't know if I want to live that long, I was gonna follow my Gran's example - she died at 64 of a heart attack after a night on the town with her 46 year old fiance (who thought she was 54) Lady knew how to live. SuzieGail Deveaux <gaila@...> wrote:

I will live to be 84.Hope they are right.

Gail

http://deveauxkennels.tk

mailto:gaila@...

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of suzieSent: May 23, 2005 4:12 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: (unknown)

Hello again,

Here's another one. How long will you live? Watch the number in the corner change with every answer. http://www.nmfn.com/tnetwork/longevity_game_popup.html

Suzie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

[Guest guest]

Sonya, it depends on who you're asking! Are you asking people who've had

the lap band or the RNY? Are you talking about right after surgery, 3

months post-op, a year post-op?

I am almost 4 months post-op RNY. I don't eat a lot of solid food, but I

don't try that hard to eat. I do try to drink at least 3 protein shakes

every day (each with 30 grams of protein), and take vitamins.

How much I eat depends on what type of food it is, and how much my body

wants. Today for lunch I ate two tablespoons of salad (lettuce, celery,

tomato, green pepper) with a drizzle of blue cheese dressing, a tablespoon

of rice & peas, and about an ounce of chicken. This was my first time

trying salad, and I don't normally eat rice, but I wanted to try having a

regular meal. I will probably have a protein shake for dinner, unless I

just get the urge to eat some solid food.

I have been able to eat as much as 4 ounces of fish in one sitting, but

that's with no side dishes or anything, and if my body is very hungry. I

don't actually feel hungry most of the time. I do occasionally, but not often.

HTH!

---------------------

in Jamaica

(yep, the island!)

Lap RNY, 50cm

Dr. Alberto Aceves

Mexicali, Mexico

Feb 5, 2005

243/192/150

----------------------

At 12:47 PM 5/25/2005, you wrote:

>give me an example of how much and what you eat on a daily basis.

[Guest guest]

I can give an example for me. Hi, I had the lapband surgery performed on March 1st. The first week post op, I could get in about 1 cup of broth, 1/2 cup of Jello. When I started solids, I could eat 1 cup of meat, 1 cup of veggies. After I had my first fill, only 1/4-1/2cup meat and maybe 1/4c veggies if I eat real slow. It also depends on the meat. For example, I can eat a can of tuna with mayo which is about 3/4 cup when it is prepared. But 1 cup of pork chop is HARD to get down plus something else. Some days I can maybe get 5 or 6 bites before I feel a "soft stop" (The first warning sign that I should stop) and sometimes I can chew really well and eat the whole cup with no problems but I am definitly full.

Soft foods, I can eat a cup of cottage cheese and then a cup of pudding in one sitting if I wanted. (But I don't cuz it is a no no...AKA "Soft food syndrome" where you eat soft foods so they will go through your band easier).

I hope this helps ya!

(unknown)

give me an example of how much and what you eat on a daily basis.

[Guest guest]

The Merck Manual is a great resource for any of us to have. It goes nicely

indepth with various diseases and illnesses, great for checking stuff out. It's

HUGE, very thick. I bought mine on Amazon.com, and I bought a " used " copy,

though it was actually new. So I got this huge, great book for $3 or so plus

shipping!! Always check out the used sellers when you're buying something on

Amazon, they are rated so you can tell if they are reputable.

(mom to , age 6, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- currently has

polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other

defs... and also to Kate, age 2, more dairy intolerant but very healthy!)

[Guest guest]

Hope things get better . Keep in touch when you can.

[Guest guest]

Connie,

Sorry you have been feeling not so good. Hope that changes soon. I am like

you though...I have been more tired lately but I know its the decrease in the

Prednisone..I never really had a problem with the Imuran before. I might just

have a stomach bug..who knows..I am going to to dr tomorrow though.They did

increas the imuran though..so maybe my system can't handle it. Wonder if they

change it, what med I would get in its place?

I don't know what my blood sugar is. what is the norm?

...· ´¨¨)) -:¦:-

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:08 , 'Connie' <angel34@...> sent:

>

>

>

>

>I was on Imuran. It gave me horable side effects. Nausea, Vomiting

>

>and

>

>Diarrhea. I am in the prosses of getting another drug.  The Dr office

>

>is suppose to be getting the paper work for the Assistance plan but

>

>they are very slow.  I think my home town clinic can do better.  I

>

>also have not hurd back form my lab work on Thursday. They were so

>

>good about getting back to me right away in the past.

>

>I have been very tired lately and have been sleeping  alot.  My bood

>

>sugars have been in the 180-250 so that is probalbly the reason.

>

>Sorry

>

>I cant spell. Bless your all  Connie 

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann.. I've been on and off of Enbrel for almost 5 years. I started it

before it was even approved for PA. I had to insist on it and my RD had to

threaten my insurance company for them to cover it at the time. Currently

they cover 80%.

I was one of the lucky ones that had immediate relief with Enbrel from the

first injection. Before that I was in suicidal pain and my RD said I would

lose the complete use of my hands within 3 months. He said I had the most

aggressive case of PA affecting the hands he had ever seen. The other major

treatments including Sulfasalizine and Methotrexate had failed me. I took

one shot of Enbrel and the next day I was out of pain. Within 3 weeks all

of the inflammation had resolved except for the permanent joint damage that

was already there. I was able to stop all my other medications for pain and

inflammation. In a couple of months my fingernails grew back and I had the

concurrent effect of reducing my scalp psoriasis by about 75%.

I say I was on and off Enbrel because it put me into remission for a year

and a half. I had to reduce my dose when Enbrel was scarce a couple of

years ago and realized that I did not need to have 2 injections a week to be

stable. I later spaced out the injections until I was able to go completely

off of it.

Last year I had a flare and had to start Enbrel again but this time I only

used one injection per week. Currently I am doing one injection every 2

weeks. This has brought the cost way down. I can tell if I am doing enough

of the drug by the condition of my fingernails. If they start to recede I

need to inject more often. The point I am making is that if Enbrel works

for you may not have to do the full dose forever. Enbrel has the potential

to cause remissions and the dose can be tapered to your personal situation.

As far as side effects go, I have found Enbrel a bit stimulating, like

drinking a cup too much coffee sometimes. I take a very low dose of

Klonopin nightly to take that edge off but I am a very anxious and wiry

person in any event. Not everyone has this effect. Most people simply

report a welcome burst of energy and a feeling of well being. My RD calls

it a mild euphoric effect. I inject at night about a half hour before bed

and take my Klonopin right after the injection. I have not had any serious

infections but I am very careful. I stop Enbrel if I have a cold and skip a

dose before my teeth are cleaned. I wash my hands a lot and am very aware

of personal hygiene and exposure to disease in general. This is not always

easy with a child in elementary school and me at a university. I have had

no trouble traveling domestically or internationally.

In my opinion Enbrel is a much safer and more tolerable drug than MTX or

Prednisone as well as statistically more effective. In short it has been a

miracle for me. The new injection system is even less painful then the

earlier one which was really inconsequential as far as pain and

inconvenience. Personally, I think it should be the first drug used in the

treatment of PA, not the last. It could cause a lot of remissions and

prevent a lot of permanent joint damage and suffering. Sometimes you may

just need to attenuate your hyperactive immune response with Enbrel until

the it calms down again over time. I have no doubt that if I would have

started Enbrel at the onset of the disease I would not have the frozen

joints which are the legacy of my previous treatment options such as

cortisone injections.

Like I said before the result was immediate for me, but everyone is

different. I would give it a few months to see if it truly will work for

you. From what I have read Enbrel is about 50% effective. With PA that's

as good as it gets. PA is a nasty, persistent disease. I sincerely hope

Enbrel works as well for you as it has for me. I suggest you check out the

archives on this site for my previous posts on Enbrel as well as the

experiences of many other members. Cheers R.E.

[ ] (unknown)

After being on Methotrexate for 2 1/2 years, My rheumy prescribed me Enbrel.

I talked to the pharmacist and my insurance company and it will be $1520 a

month. My insurance company (double cross/blue weasel) will ultimately pay

70% of that, taking their sweet time, no doubt. OK, so we can afford this

but it would not be real easy. I am wondering how long people here have

been on it before finding out if it works for them? How long before the

side effects show up? My Rheumy wrote me the script because I had a real

bad three week period which she first blamed on the rain and then responded

with " well you have a serious disease, what do you expect " {compassion

maybe??} but that's another issue. I've been very fortunate with

Methotrexate - although my ankle is pretty much destroyed, most of the time

I haven't had other problems, and no problem with my liver or other side

effects. Plus it is really affordable. So I'm hesitant. I have a

second opinion with an out of town

rheumy (I live in a real small town with only the one) in July.

I would like to know how long before you know if this stuff is going to work

its magic and when might the side effects show up......

Thanks, Ann

[Guest guest]

Ann,

It can take anywhere between two weeks to three months to know if it will work

for you. AND--these increased medical expenses? You can write them off on your

taxes next year.

LeAnn in OK

P since 1985, PA since 1999, dxed with Fibro, 2005

[Guest guest]

Hi Ronnie,

That's the best success story I've ever heard about Enbrel. Good for you!

Aloha,

--- " Ronnie " <ronevans@...> wrote:

From: " Ronnie " <ronevans@...>

Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:13:47 -0700

< >

Subject: RE: [ ] (unknown)

Hi Ann.. I've been on and off of Enbrel for almost 5 years. I

started it

before it was even approved for PA. I had to insist on it and

my RD had to

threaten my insurance company for them to cover it at the

time. Currently

they cover 80%.

I was one of the lucky ones that had immediate relief with

Enbrel from the

first injection. Before that I was in suicidal pain and my RD

said I would

lose the complete use of my hands within 3 months. He said I

had the most

aggressive case of PA affecting the hands he had ever seen.

The other major

treatments including Sulfasalizine and Methotrexate had failed

me. I took

one shot of Enbrel and the next day I was out of pain. Within

3 weeks all

of the inflammation had resolved except for the permanent joint

damage that

was already there. I was able to stop all my other medications

for pain and

inflammation. In a couple of months my fingernails grew back

and I had the

concurrent effect of reducing my scalp psoriasis by about 75%.

I say I was on and off Enbrel because it put me into remission

for a year

and a half. I had to reduce my dose when Enbrel was scarce a

couple of

years ago and realized that I did not need to have 2 injections

a week to be

stable. I later spaced out the injections until I was able to

go completely

off of it.

Last year I had a flare and had to start Enbrel again but this

time I only

used one injection per week. Currently I am doing one

injection every 2

weeks. This has brought the cost way down. I can tell if I am

doing enough

of the drug by the condition of my fingernails. If they start

to recede I

need to inject more often. The point I am making is that if

Enbrel works

for you may not have to do the full dose forever. Enbrel has

the potential

to cause remissions and the dose can be tapered to your

personal situation.

As far as side effects go, I have found Enbrel a bit

stimulating, like

drinking a cup too much coffee sometimes. I take a very low

dose of

Klonopin nightly to take that edge off but I am a very anxious

and wiry

person in any event. Not everyone has this effect. Most

people simply

report a welcome burst of energy and a feeling of well being.

My RD calls

it a mild euphoric effect. I inject at night about a half hour

before bed

and take my Klonopin right after the injection. I have not had

any serious

infections but I am very careful. I stop Enbrel if I have a

cold and skip a

dose before my teeth are cleaned. I wash my hands a lot and am

very aware

of personal hygiene and exposure to disease in general. This

is not always

easy with a child in elementary school and me at a university.

I have had

no trouble traveling domestically or internationally.

In my opinion Enbrel is a much safer and more tolerable drug

than MTX or

Prednisone as well as statistically more effective. In short

it has been a

miracle for me. The new injection system is even less painful

then the

earlier one which was really inconsequential as far as pain and

inconvenience. Personally, I think it should be the first drug

used in the

treatment of PA, not the last. It could cause a lot of

remissions and

prevent a lot of permanent joint damage and suffering.

Sometimes you may

just need to attenuate your hyperactive immune response with

Enbrel until

the it calms down again over time. I have no doubt that if I

would have

started Enbrel at the onset of the disease I would not have the

frozen

joints which are the legacy of my previous treatment options

such as

cortisone injections.

Like I said before the result was immediate for me, but

everyone is

different. I would give it a few months to see if it truly

will work for

you. From what I have read Enbrel is about 50% effective.

With PA that's

as good as it gets. PA is a nasty, persistent disease. I

sincerely hope

Enbrel works as well for you as it has for me. I suggest you

check out the

archives on this site for my previous posts on Enbrel as well

as the

experiences of many other members. Cheers R.E.

[ ] (unknown)

After being on Methotrexate for 2 1/2 years, My rheumy

prescribed me Enbrel.

I talked to the pharmacist and my insurance company and it will

be $1520 a

month. My insurance company (double cross/blue weasel) will

ultimately pay

70% of that, taking their sweet time, no doubt. OK, so we can

afford this

but it would not be real easy. I am wondering how long people

here have

been on it before finding out if it works for them? How long

before the

side effects show up? My Rheumy wrote me the script because I

had a real

bad three week period which she first blamed on the rain and

then responded

with " well you have a serious disease, what do you expect "

{compassion

maybe??} but that's another issue. I've been very fortunate

with

Methotrexate - although my ankle is pretty much destroyed, most

of the time

I haven't had other problems, and no problem with my liver or

other side

effects. Plus it is really affordable. So I'm hesitant. I

have a

second opinion with an out of town

rheumy (I live in a real small town with only the one) in

July.

I would like to know how long before you know if this stuff is

going to work

its magic and when might the side effects show up......

Thanks, Ann

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information about the site. I was hoping that one of the big

drug companies who make the ABC drugs had not hacked the site after the

press that the LDN conference garnered!!!

Just referred my local pharmacist to the site....told him it was temporarily

unavilable.

I am spreading the word in these parts of Montana!!

[low dose naltrexone] (unknown)

> To all those that are having trouble getting into the ldninfo.org site,

here

> is what Dr. Gluck has just said regarding this. I was pretty sure that it

> was either that or someone working on it but let's hope it is back soon.

> Just a very unfortunate time for this to happen. I've been a bit quiet

since

> returning back from my trip to New York for the conference only because

> yikes! on all the e-mail and things to catch up on but I want to say that

I

> thought the conference was magnificent in that it really solidified for me

> the resolve that I knew was out there. Nothing like actually meeting

people

> and talking face to face. I like what is going on out there and I like to

> call it " people power " . I will no doubt try to send individual e-mails to

> everyone I met there. Just need time for that...lol. Ok, here is what Dr.

> Gluck says is happening with the site. JoyceF

>

> " Currently, the website's server (ArisHost) has crashed! I'm sure

will

> be thinking of getting us migrated to a better, more reliable host

> shortly. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

You have the same question that I have experienced recently. Please, Please

talk to your Rheumy and ask him how you should be feeling after using your first

Enbrel. I listened to others with the remark " everyone is different... " and

that is not what you should be going by. My Rheumy said that using Enbrel it

should be right away that you should be having relief with your joints,

swelling, etc. and it is not working if you are just having the high binge of

energy. Like I said I went through the same exact thoughts as you and come to

find out that Enbrel was not working for me. My hands and fingers are still

swelling, knees and ankles, shoulders, etc. So now I'm having to go with the

" big guns " Remicade. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask.

God Bless, Susieesue.

Ann Weekley <ann_weekley@...> wrote:

After being on Methotrexate for 2 1/2 years, My rheumy prescribed me Enbrel. I

talked to the pharmacist and my insurance company and it will be $1520 a month.

My insurance company (double cross/blue weasel) will ultimately pay 70% of that,

taking their sweet time, no doubt. OK, so we can afford this but it would not

be real easy. I am wondering how long people here have been on it before

finding out if it works for them? How long before the side effects show up?

My Rheumy wrote me the script because I had a real bad three week period which

she first blamed on the rain and then responded with " well you have a serious

disease, what do you expect " {compassion maybe??} but that's another issue.

I've been very fortunate with Methotrexate - although my ankle is pretty much

destroyed, most of the time I haven't had other problems, and no problem with

my liver or other side effects. Plus it is really affordable. So I'm

hesitant. I have a second opinion with an out of town

rheumy (I live in a real small town with only the one) in July.

I would like to know how long before you know if this stuff is going to work its

magic and when might the side effects show up......

Thanks, Ann

[Guest guest]

Hi -

Both are new classes of drugs used in managing diabetes.

Here are the site links

Byetta http://byetta.com/index.jsp

Symlin http://www.symlin.com/

Dora

maria stone <mariacs59@...> wrote:

has anyone heard any info on byetta or symlin?

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

i heard a doc on tv say the other day to wash your hair before going to

bed.....to remove " allergens "

v.

[] (unknown)

Can mold toxins cling to either your skin, hair or clothes in such a

way that your are causing severe allergic reactions, sniffles,

coughing

and wheezing, i other people you interact with opn a daily basis? If

so, what is the remedy?

FAIR USE NOTICE:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Makes sense to me....

=============================

[] (unknown)

Can mold toxins cling to either your skin, hair or clothes in such a

way that your are causing severe allergic reactions, sniffles,

coughing

and wheezing, i other people you interact with opn a daily basis? If

so, what is the remedy?

FAIR USE NOTICE:

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

My students are doing a poster presentation in 3rd week of July, One is doing

Byetta. It works by enhancing the secretion of glucose-dependant insulin;

glucagon-like peptide, mimicking incretin (another hormone that stimulates

insulin secretion. It can not be used alone but inconjunction of other diabetes

drugs.

I am not familiar with the other drug's actions but will be as soon as I

'mentor' a student doing that one.(not this poster session though).

Hope this helps you out.

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

F/O

Dora <doracpht@...> wrote:

Hi -

Both are new classes of drugs used in managing diabetes.

Here are the site links

Byetta http://byetta.com/index.jsp

Symlin http://www.symlin.com/

Dora

maria stone <mariacs59@...> wrote:

has anyone heard any info on byetta or symlin?

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

V - funny you should mention showering to remove " allergens " .

Lately I've been going to work with wet hair, because it's so humid

in NY. I'm fine with wet hair until I walk into work. I get

slammed hard, hard, hard with symptoms. I leave early and jump

directly into the shower at home. My symptoms ease within a couple

of hours. (wet hair and all)

I tried the whole shower cap, just bathe your body thing to see if I

didn't have to put forth so much effort. It failed. A full, hot

shower has been necessary. I'm still in my experimental phase

though.

> i heard a doc on tv say the other day to wash your hair before

going to bed.....to remove " allergens "

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do you cause allergies on others? i think i do.....

<denb15@...> escribió:V - funny you should mention showering to

remove " allergens " .

Lately I've been going to work with wet hair, because it's so humid

in NY. I'm fine with wet hair until I walk into work. I get

slammed hard, hard, hard with symptoms. I leave early and jump

directly into the shower at home. My symptoms ease within a couple

of hours. (wet hair and all)

I tried the whole shower cap, just bathe your body thing to see if I

didn't have to put forth so much effort. It failed. A full, hot

shower has been necessary. I'm still in my experimental phase

though.

> i heard a doc on tv say the other day to wash your hair before

going to bed.....to remove " allergens "

> v.

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> [] (unknown)

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>

> Can mold toxins cling to either your skin, hair or clothes in

such a

> way that your are causing severe allergic reactions, sniffles,

> coughing

> and wheezing, i other people you interact with opn a daily

basis? If

> so, what is the remedy?

>

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>

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> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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Might recall that Dr Klein and I had this " pillow talk " about spores

in hair and that he went so far as to have his son shave his head

before visiting Dr Klein's " safe room " .

I decided to keep the hair but just wash it before sleep.

But I do wear a hat when I'm entering a known " bad " zone to reduce

follicular fungal transport by just doffing the hat when I'm out of

the badness.

Though I have had a coupl'a hats that I had to toss out after a while.

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I did shave mine, but it still did not work... what about clothes and skin, can

the spores cling on there? what can be done about it?

erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> escribió:Might recall that Dr

Klein and I had this " pillow talk " about spores

in hair and that he went so far as to have his son shave his head

before visiting Dr Klein's " safe room " .

I decided to keep the hair but just wash it before sleep.

But I do wear a hat when I'm entering a known " bad " zone to reduce

follicular fungal transport by just doffing the hat when I'm out of

the badness.

Though I have had a coupl'a hats that I had to toss out after a while.

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I suppose you all have very short hair? Do you go to bed with wet hair

or do you dry it thoroughly too. My hair takes forever to dry, thick

and long-ish. I wash it in a.m. and let it airdry. I would like to

go to bed with clean head though. Perhaps I need to cut then?

Anyway, what do others do?

> Might recall that Dr Klein and I had this " pillow talk " about spores

> in hair and that he went so far as to have his son shave his head

> before visiting Dr Klein's " safe room " .

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