Guest guest Report post Posted March 2, 2010 Hi there- I have been listening to 's podcasts and also reading emails. I have very strong limiting belief that I need a sugar binge to get thru my rough spots. I put on 20lbs this year and I am struggling. Very sad and need some support. I was in therapy and my therapist said " big deal you had a hard year and you comfort yourself with food " - I explained that I felt sick and did not fit into my clothes. I decided I needed a new avenue of help. I am near NYC -in NJ-Hoboken. Does anyone have suggestions- NLP---EFT? Thanks for any help. Hope I can help you someday.-F Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry be positive. > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... feeling > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > passed > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't know > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate when > it > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > earlier... > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before eating... > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked it... > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > -I'm fat. > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > -I will always eat the way I do now > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > -Once I start, I can't stop. > -I want this excess food. > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > uncomfortable) > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > beliefs. > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I do > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me is > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me is > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing in > my > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > totally bloated from food. > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! I > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > But, I need help. > > Thanks for reading, > ALL > > -- > Avie Linden > University of Michigan - Anthropology > Program in the Environment, History of Art > 248.535.0521 > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 2, 2010 You are not alone - I completely relate to this idea that I deserve a treat/binge when things are rough - or after a long week that is how I've chosen to unwind - or so I tell myself. I've been naturally slender before and got off track ...but I know I was always see-sawing with binging and starving a bit - just way over correcting. I know we can all heal from this behavior because I've been there - but I also feel that these tools we are now getting are going to make my next slender episode really stick in a calm way. Smaller corrections. I don't have to overeat because I get to eat...it is ok. I am now starting to use some of the concepts on weightloss to see that giving myself a treat is to not engage in these behaviors. What a treat to eat light, to check in and ask my stomach what will feel good in it over time...today I went for a walk in the afternoon after a whole day of working inside. I never do that and I live by the beach!! It felt so amazing to be able to give that to myself. And...after 3 days of avoiding my binge foods altogether I feel much better. The first couple of days were really hard because the feelings are so hard...(I use food to hide those feelings but it turns out feeling them is the easier way). I listened non-stop to the podcast and each day has felt better. I was actually able to sit calmly and work all day - I'm usually so distracted - is anyone else like this? The food I was going to in order to keep me calm and focused was making me sick and distracted. My therapist is helpful with these issues but you can get support here and from the podcasts...I'm new but it seems like people are responding and checking in. Just take it one day at a time as they say - so annoying but honestly each day adds up. I was hating myself (really badly) a few days ago - I know I don't look any different but it didn't take looking better in order for me to feel better. And I think that is one of my limiting beliefs - that I have to look like a supermodel in order to feel ok about myself. That just isn't the case and I know it because of how I feel right now. Keep checking in... J > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one to > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here and > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to the > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My limiting > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with each > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that need > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You are a > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! Keep us > > posted! > > > > T > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > be positive. > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... feeling > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > passed > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't know > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate when > > it > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > earlier... > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before eating... > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked it... > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > -I'm fat. > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > -I want this excess food. > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > uncomfortable) > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > beliefs. > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I do > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me is > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me is > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing in > > my > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > totally bloated from food. > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! I > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > But, I need help. > > > > Thanks for reading, > > ALL > > > > -- > > Avie Linden > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 3, 2010 I really related to 's podcast about " treating " yourself with food -- maybe that's worth a re-listen for you?? " Because you know deep inside that when you overeat, when you eat junk food, what are you really depriving yourself of? Yeah. That’s right. You’re depriving yourself of health. You’re depriving yourself of looking good in those cute clothes in your closet or the cute clothes in the window of the shop that you love. You’re depriving yourself perhaps of feeling really good in your body. That’s what you’re depriving yourself of. So wake up to that notion, that real depravation is what you do when you don’t treat yourself like a queen or a king and giv yourself the very best. " When I think of treating myself with food -- I now think of that 'treat' being something that deprives me of good health and doing what I want to do with my life -- that treat actually limits not only what I do but how I feel & how I act/react take care of yourself! Colleen > > Hi there- I have been listening to 's podcasts and also reading emails. I have very strong limiting belief that I need a sugar binge to get thru my rough spots. I put on 20lbs this year and I am struggling. Very sad and need some support. I was in therapy and my therapist said " big deal you had a hard year and you comfort yourself with food " - I explained that I felt sick and did not fit into my clothes. I decided I needed a new avenue of help. > > I am near NYC -in NJ-Hoboken. Does anyone have suggestions- NLP---EFT? > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 3, 2010 I really related to 's podcast about " treating " yourself with food -- maybe that's worth a re-listen for you?? " Because you know deep inside that when you overeat, when you eat junk food, what are you really depriving yourself of? Yeah. That’s right. You’re depriving yourself of health. You’re depriving yourself of looking good in those cute clothes in your closet or the cute clothes in the window of the shop that you love. You’re depriving yourself perhaps of feeling really good in your body. That’s what you’re depriving yourself of. So wake up to that notion, that real depravation is what you do when you don’t treat yourself like a queen or a king and giv yourself the very best. " When I think of treating myself with food -- I now think of that 'treat' being something that deprives me of good health and doing what I want to do with my life -- that treat actually limits not only what I do but how I feel & how I act/react take care of yourself! Colleen > > Hi there- I have been listening to 's podcasts and also reading emails. I have very strong limiting belief that I need a sugar binge to get thru my rough spots. I put on 20lbs this year and I am struggling. Very sad and need some support. I was in therapy and my therapist said " big deal you had a hard year and you comfort yourself with food " - I explained that I felt sick and did not fit into my clothes. I decided I needed a new avenue of help. > > I am near NYC -in NJ-Hoboken. Does anyone have suggestions- NLP---EFT? > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 3, 2010 Dear Feziwigg (still think that is an awesome screenname!!! =) Don't know that I have any new help, but I did want you to know that you are not alone in this... we are all here for you and most of us probably have similar beliefs about 'needing' some special food to help us through. As for your therapist, you know they say these things to try to shock us into new thinking. Sometimes it works, but in my experience, it usually works years later! You know that saying... when the pupil is ready the teacher will appear... a therapist told me something very harsh and it was probably six years before it made sense! lol Sugar is one of those things that makes you feel bad just because of the physiological impact it has on the body... those blood sugar swings can be brutal. I have been trying to have fruit or make a smoothie instead of heading to the cookies. I really feel so much better when I do... much more energy and generally feeling better. Anyway, I mainly just wanted to give you a virtual hug and pat on the back. You know, the original Feziwigg was full of love and laughter and goodwill and I have never seen him portrayed as anything but rotund! lol oxox Patti On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:36 AM, <feziwigg@...> wrote: > Hi there- I have been listening to 's podcasts and also reading > emails. I have very strong limiting belief that I need a sugar binge to get > thru my rough spots. I put on 20lbs this year and I am struggling. Very > sad and need some support. I was in therapy and my therapist said " big deal > you had a hard year and you comfort yourself with food " - I explained that I > felt sick and did not fit into my clothes. I decided I needed a new avenue > of help. > > I am near NYC -in NJ-Hoboken. Does anyone have suggestions- NLP---EFT? > > Thanks for any help. > Hope I can help you someday.-F > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 3, 2010 Dear Feziwigg (still think that is an awesome screenname!!! =) Don't know that I have any new help, but I did want you to know that you are not alone in this... we are all here for you and most of us probably have similar beliefs about 'needing' some special food to help us through. As for your therapist, you know they say these things to try to shock us into new thinking. Sometimes it works, but in my experience, it usually works years later! You know that saying... when the pupil is ready the teacher will appear... a therapist told me something very harsh and it was probably six years before it made sense! lol Sugar is one of those things that makes you feel bad just because of the physiological impact it has on the body... those blood sugar swings can be brutal. I have been trying to have fruit or make a smoothie instead of heading to the cookies. I really feel so much better when I do... much more energy and generally feeling better. Anyway, I mainly just wanted to give you a virtual hug and pat on the back. You know, the original Feziwigg was full of love and laughter and goodwill and I have never seen him portrayed as anything but rotund! lol oxox Patti On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:36 AM, <feziwigg@...> wrote: > Hi there- I have been listening to 's podcasts and also reading > emails. I have very strong limiting belief that I need a sugar binge to get > thru my rough spots. I put on 20lbs this year and I am struggling. Very > sad and need some support. I was in therapy and my therapist said " big deal > you had a hard year and you comfort yourself with food " - I explained that I > felt sick and did not fit into my clothes. I decided I needed a new avenue > of help. > > I am near NYC -in NJ-Hoboken. Does anyone have suggestions- NLP---EFT? > > Thanks for any help. > Hope I can help you someday.-F > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Thanks for sharing your limiting beliefs. I am just working out mine. This is what I have so far: I am a stress eater. I am going through a rough patch and don't have the energy to lose weight. I cannot relax (watch Tv, veg out etc.) without snacking. I have always been fat, my family is fat. My body is hardwired to retain the weight. I am a big girl and that is a sign of strength. I love to eat. Food comforts me unlike anything else. When I want to reward myself, food is the easiest (and best) treat. I am sure there are more things, but for now want to work on resolving these. Thanks everyone for your intent and support! > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one to > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here and > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to the > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My limiting > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with each > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that need > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You are a > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! Keep us > > posted! > > > > T > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > be positive. > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... feeling > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > passed > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't know > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate when > > it > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > earlier... > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before eating... > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked it... > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > -I'm fat. > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > -I want this excess food. > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > uncomfortable) > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > beliefs. > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I do > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me is > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me is > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing in > > my > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > totally bloated from food. > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! I > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > But, I need help. > > > > Thanks for reading, > > ALL > > > > -- > > Avie Linden > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Thanks for sharing your limiting beliefs. I am just working out mine. This is what I have so far: I am a stress eater. I am going through a rough patch and don't have the energy to lose weight. I cannot relax (watch Tv, veg out etc.) without snacking. I have always been fat, my family is fat. My body is hardwired to retain the weight. I am a big girl and that is a sign of strength. I love to eat. Food comforts me unlike anything else. When I want to reward myself, food is the easiest (and best) treat. I am sure there are more things, but for now want to work on resolving these. Thanks everyone for your intent and support! > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one to > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here and > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to the > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My limiting > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with each > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that need > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You are a > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! Keep us > > posted! > > > > T > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > be positive. > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... feeling > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > passed > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't know > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate when > > it > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > earlier... > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before eating... > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked it... > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > -I'm fat. > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > -I want this excess food. > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > uncomfortable) > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > beliefs. > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I do > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me is > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me is > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing in > > my > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > totally bloated from food. > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! I > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > But, I need help. > > > > Thanks for reading, > > ALL > > > > -- > > Avie Linden > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 I felt like I wrote these! Sounds just like me! Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® be positive. > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... feeling > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > passed > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't know > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate when > > it > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > earlier... > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before eating... > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked it... > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > -I'm fat. > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > -I want this excess food. > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > uncomfortable) > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > beliefs. > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I do > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me is > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me is > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing in > > my > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > totally bloated from food. > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! I > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > But, I need help. > > > > Thanks for reading, > > ALL > > > > -- > > Avie Linden > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Thanks to you all for posting your limiting beliefs. They sound like I wrote them myself. I've been having trouble figuring out what to put down. Now when I sit down this evening I will come away with something useful. > > > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one to > > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here and > > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to the > > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My limiting > > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with each > > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that need > > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You are a > > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! Keep us > > > posted! > > > > > > T > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > be positive. > > > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... feeling > > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > > passed > > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't know > > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate when > > > it > > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > > earlier... > > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before eating... > > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked it... > > > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > > -I'm fat. > > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > > -I want this excess food. > > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > > uncomfortable) > > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > > beliefs. > > > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I do > > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me is > > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me is > > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing in > > > my > > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > > totally bloated from food. > > > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! I > > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > > > But, I need help. > > > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > ALL > > > > > > -- > > > Avie Linden > > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Thanks to you all for posting your limiting beliefs. They sound like I wrote them myself. I've been having trouble figuring out what to put down. Now when I sit down this evening I will come away with something useful. > > > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one to > > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here and > > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to the > > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My limiting > > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with each > > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that need > > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You are a > > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! Keep us > > > posted! > > > > > > T > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > be positive. > > > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... feeling > > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > > passed > > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't know > > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate when > > > it > > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > > earlier... > > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before eating... > > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked it... > > > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > > -I'm fat. > > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > > -I want this excess food. > > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > > uncomfortable) > > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > > beliefs. > > > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I do > > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me is > > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me is > > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing in > > > my > > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > > totally bloated from food. > > > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! I > > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > > > But, I need help. > > > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > ALL > > > > > > -- > > > Avie Linden > > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 I LOVE the limiting belief that we LOVE to eat! That's so right on... for the most part, eating is a pretty weird phenomenon.. and, for the most part, I DON'T really love to eat... I love to feel light in my body, etc. Maybe we love to TASTE! And, I am starting to really appreciate the act of tasting.. I can try everything and anything, savor it slowly and not feel compelled to eat all of it, not feel deprived. That being said, I do believe from experience that sugar has a crazy addictive quality and the consequences are undeniable... I eat sugar and I want more... so, we find out what works with time. All I know is that I am holding on tight to this calorie counting insanity! I only starting counting calories after starting Overeaters Anonymous and after I went to a nutritionist. I wanted to " double check " the amounts that she was prescribing and now counting calories is my fall back when feeling compulsive. I REALLY want to stop. I guess the part of me that doesn't want to stop is totally scared of gaining weight... of thinking about the rest of Life?! Anyway, I really dislike the practice and would love to hear some thoughts from y'all regarding calorie counting... how you stopped, etc. AMEN! ALL On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:26 AM, <tania_khalil@...> wrote: > I felt like I wrote these! Sounds just like me! > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > be positive. > > > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... > feeling > > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > > passed > > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't > know > > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate > when > > > it > > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > > earlier... > > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before > eating... > > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked > it... > > > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > > -I'm fat. > > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > > -I want this excess food. > > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > > uncomfortable) > > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > > beliefs. > > > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I > do > > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me > is > > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me > is > > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing > in > > > my > > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > > totally bloated from food. > > > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! > I > > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > > > But, I need help. > > > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > ALL > > > > > > -- > > > Avie Linden > > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 I agree about the addictive quality of sugar! I have to watch the types of sugar I ingest. I love your take on tasting rather than eating! I'm going to keep that in mind. Regarding calorie counting, I totally understand the wish to move away from it and work on being more mindful of your eating. I did calorie counting on and off during my weight loss journey. I learned so much about portion and satiety from calorie counting. But like you I did not like the compulsive feelings associated with it. Perhaps you could start by counting calories for 1/2 days first or every other day and slowly back down to not counting altogether? I stopped calorie counting completely in Aug/Sept 09. I learned to listen more to my hunger and I did in fact lose another 15 lbs from that time to Dec 09 when I hit my weight goal. I've been maintaining since Dec 09 and have even lost about 3 lbs since then. I feel great! > > > > > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one > > to > > > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here > > and > > > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to > > the > > > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My > > limiting > > > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with > > each > > > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that > > need > > > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You > > are a > > > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! > > Keep us > > > > posted! > > > > > > > > T > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > be positive. > > > > > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... > > feeling > > > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > > > passed > > > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't > > know > > > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate > > when > > > > it > > > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > > > earlier... > > > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before > > eating... > > > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked > > it... > > > > > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > > > -I'm fat. > > > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > > > -I want this excess food. > > > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > > > uncomfortable) > > > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > > > beliefs. > > > > > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I > > do > > > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me > > is > > > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me > > is > > > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing > > in > > > > my > > > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > > > totally bloated from food. > > > > > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! > > I > > > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > > > > > But, I need help. > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > > ALL > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Avie Linden > > > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 I agree about the addictive quality of sugar! I have to watch the types of sugar I ingest. I love your take on tasting rather than eating! I'm going to keep that in mind. Regarding calorie counting, I totally understand the wish to move away from it and work on being more mindful of your eating. I did calorie counting on and off during my weight loss journey. I learned so much about portion and satiety from calorie counting. But like you I did not like the compulsive feelings associated with it. Perhaps you could start by counting calories for 1/2 days first or every other day and slowly back down to not counting altogether? I stopped calorie counting completely in Aug/Sept 09. I learned to listen more to my hunger and I did in fact lose another 15 lbs from that time to Dec 09 when I hit my weight goal. I've been maintaining since Dec 09 and have even lost about 3 lbs since then. I feel great! > > > > > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one > > to > > > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here > > and > > > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to > > the > > > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My > > limiting > > > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with > > each > > > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that > > need > > > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You > > are a > > > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! > > Keep us > > > > posted! > > > > > > > > T > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > be positive. > > > > > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... > > feeling > > > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > > > passed > > > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't > > know > > > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate > > when > > > > it > > > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > > > earlier... > > > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before > > eating... > > > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked > > it... > > > > > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > > > -I'm fat. > > > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > > > -I want this excess food. > > > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > > > uncomfortable) > > > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > > > beliefs. > > > > > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I > > do > > > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me > > is > > > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me > > is > > > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing > > in > > > > my > > > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > > > totally bloated from food. > > > > > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! > > I > > > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > > > > > But, I need help. > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > > ALL > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Avie Linden > > > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 I forgot to add in my earlier reply that I feel like maybe one of your limiting beliefs is that you believe that you are unable to lose weight without counting calories? I think that counting calories is a great tool but it's not the be all and end all of weight loss. Can you take all of the great things that you have learned from calorie counting but kind of keep it in the back of your mind? Trust yourself. Listen to your hunger. I also find that planning my meals, and snacks, is super helpful in keeping me on track. > > > > > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one > > to > > > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here > > and > > > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to > > the > > > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My > > limiting > > > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with > > each > > > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that > > need > > > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You > > are a > > > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! > > Keep us > > > > posted! > > > > > > > > T > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > be positive. > > > > > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... > > feeling > > > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > > > passed > > > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't > > know > > > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate > > when > > > > it > > > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > > > earlier... > > > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before > > eating... > > > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked > > it... > > > > > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > > > -I'm fat. > > > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > > > -I want this excess food. > > > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > > > uncomfortable) > > > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > > > beliefs. > > > > > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I > > do > > > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me > > is > > > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me > > is > > > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing > > in > > > > my > > > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > > > totally bloated from food. > > > > > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! > > I > > > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > > > > > But, I need help. > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > > ALL > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Avie Linden > > > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 I forgot to add in my earlier reply that I feel like maybe one of your limiting beliefs is that you believe that you are unable to lose weight without counting calories? I think that counting calories is a great tool but it's not the be all and end all of weight loss. Can you take all of the great things that you have learned from calorie counting but kind of keep it in the back of your mind? Trust yourself. Listen to your hunger. I also find that planning my meals, and snacks, is super helpful in keeping me on track. > > > > > > > First I want to say, this is why we are here. Some of us have no one > > to > > > > whom we can vent, thus the need for this group. Feel free to come here > > and > > > > verbalize your frustrations with yourself. > > > > > > > > Next, it is time to address your list of limiting beliefs. Go back to > > the > > > > episode on changing your limiting beliefs. Try to change them. My > > limiting > > > > belief is that the binge helps me cope with the stress that I deal with > > each > > > > day. That NEED Mountain Dew to cope as well. We all have areas that > > need > > > > correcting. You are not alone. > > > > > > > > I am in the same boat that you are in. I feel really good about > > > > myself...even sexy (*blush*) when I am not bloated by a binge. We are > > > > allowing food to control our self confidence. Why?? > > > > > > > > As of now, we are starting over and we will win. Stay POSITIVE! You > > are a > > > > beauty queen and deserve the LUXURY of feeling good about yourself! > > Keep us > > > > posted! > > > > > > > > T > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > be positive. > > > > > > > > Happy Purim everyone! A day that starting out so amazingly ends in a > > > > ridiculous episode of overeating, eating sneakily and in private... > > feeling > > > > guilty and physically full and continuing to overeat. I'm 23 and > > > > frustrated. Lonely. Scared. I'm impatient with myself and want to get > > > > passed > > > > this point in my life. I don't know how to live tomorrow... I don't > > know > > > > how to go on. I probably won't be eating tomorrow... self-correcting? > > > > > > > > I'm sorry if it seems like I misuse this email group. I just have these > > > > thoughts and need to express them to people who understand. > > > > > > > > I'm so upset with myself! I'm so upset with myself! Again, I overate > > when > > > > it > > > > was totally avoidable and unnecessary. A redo: I would have eaten > > > > earlier... > > > > taken more food to start with... perhaps set an intention before > > eating... > > > > or simply left the environment when that compulsive feeling kicked > > it... > > > > > > > > I have limiting beliefs and they are as follows: > > > > -I'm fat. > > > > -Indulgence is bad; indulgence in front of others is bad. > > > > -Eating in front of others is bad, uncool, embarrassing. > > > > -I will always eat the way I do now > > > > -My eating will not change until I am more settled in life > > > > -Once I start, I can't stop. > > > > -I want this excess food. > > > > - Whatever I'm feeling is worse than how I feel now (physically > > > > uncomfortable) > > > > -one must stay up for at least two hours after eating > > > > -When there is lots of food around, I am bound to eat a lot of it. > > > > ... there are more, I'm sure. I'd love to hear some of your limiting > > > > beliefs. > > > > > > > > Again, my number one limiting belief is that I am fat! It's what my > > > > reflection tells me, so it must be true, right?! ;-) > > > > > > > > A separate thought: I am coming to believe that I eat the way that I > > do > > > > because some part of me doesn't want me to feel good! Some part of me > > is > > > > totally afraid of feeling so amazing in life... also, some part of me > > is > > > > totally afraid of feeling great in my body, or feeling totally amazing > > in > > > > my > > > > skin and in my clothes... because, hey... I'm kind of sexy when I'm not > > > > totally bloated from food. > > > > > > > > so, there you go. here i am again, hoping this is the last binge ever! > > I > > > > don't ever have to feel this horribly again. I don't. > > > > > > > > But, I need help. > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading, > > > > ALL > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Avie Linden > > > > University of Michigan - Anthropology > > > > Program in the Environment, History of Art > > > > 248.535.0521 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 In message <845605.29358.qm@...> you wrote: > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish = > and better scoby. Hi , The best vinegar to add is acidic Kombucha, ready brewed. If you are short of that, you can use distilled malt vinegar at the beginning of the brewing cycle. Just spoon a tablespoon of vinegar over your scoby/top of your new brew. Don't use cider vinegar (unless you boil it and cool it first), as this contains a different culture called 'Mother of vinegar' which can mess up your Kombucha culture. The acidity is good especially to ward off mold spores. You can get Kombucha vinegar from a scoby hotel, where the scobys eat all the still remaining sugar in the KT liquid. Even the acidity at the end of your KT brewing may be good enough to give your new brew sufficient acidity. 1/2 - 1 cup added to your new brew should be sufficient. yours acidically ;-) Margret :-) -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com creation.com Be willing to let your schedule be altered if knowing God better requires it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 If you have enough starter liquid, it shouldn't be necessary. AFAIK, vinegar is only used to acidify the brew to protect against mold when there isn't enough acidic starter liquid. Polly Ketter wrote: > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish and better scoby. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 Hi, Margret, it is hard to find distilled " malt " vinegar " here, we have plain distilled though. Would that suffice?... Jahjet > > > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish = > > and better scoby. > > Hi , The best vinegar to add is acidic Kombucha, ready brewed. > If you are short of that, you can use distilled malt vinegar at the > beginning of the brewing cycle. > Just spoon a tablespoon of vinegar over your scoby/top of your new brew. > > Don't use cider vinegar (unless you boil it and cool it first), as this > contains a different culture called 'Mother of vinegar' which can mess > up your Kombucha culture. > > The acidity is good especially to ward off mold spores. > You can get Kombucha vinegar from a scoby hotel, where the scobys > eat all the still remaining sugar in the KT liquid. Even the acidity > at the end of your KT brewing may be good enough to give your new brew > sufficient acidity. 1/2 - 1 cup added to your new brew should be sufficient. > > > yours acidically ;-) > > Margret :-) > > -- > +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ > http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html > http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com > creation.com > Be willing to let your schedule be altered if knowing God better requires it. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 Hi, Margret, it is hard to find distilled " malt " vinegar " here, we have plain distilled though. Would that suffice?... Jahjet > > > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish = > > and better scoby. > > Hi , The best vinegar to add is acidic Kombucha, ready brewed. > If you are short of that, you can use distilled malt vinegar at the > beginning of the brewing cycle. > Just spoon a tablespoon of vinegar over your scoby/top of your new brew. > > Don't use cider vinegar (unless you boil it and cool it first), as this > contains a different culture called 'Mother of vinegar' which can mess > up your Kombucha culture. > > The acidity is good especially to ward off mold spores. > You can get Kombucha vinegar from a scoby hotel, where the scobys > eat all the still remaining sugar in the KT liquid. Even the acidity > at the end of your KT brewing may be good enough to give your new brew > sufficient acidity. 1/2 - 1 cup added to your new brew should be sufficient. > > > yours acidically ;-) > > Margret :-) > > -- > +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ > http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html > http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com > creation.com > Be willing to let your schedule be altered if knowing God better requires it. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 I have Sarson's malt vinegar.. doesnt mention being distilled... anyone from the uk know if this is distilled? I just received a small scoby with very little tea. I was going to add some cider vinegar. (which is what I was instructed to do)... now I don't know what to use! Patti ________________________________ From: Jahjet <jahjet@...> kombucha tea Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 5:04:48 PM Subject: Re: help Hi, Margret, it is hard to find distilled " malt " vinegar " here, we have plain distilled though. Would that suffice?... Jahjet > > > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish = > > and better scoby. > > Hi , The best vinegar to add is acidic Kombucha, ready brewed. > If you are short of that, you can use distilled malt vinegar at the > beginning of the brewing cycle. > Just spoon a tablespoon of vinegar over your scoby/top of your new brew. > > Don't use cider vinegar (unless you boil it and cool it first), as this > contains a different culture called 'Mother of vinegar' which can mess > up your Kombucha culture. > > The acidity is good especially to ward off mold spores. > You can get Kombucha vinegar from a scoby hotel, where the scobys > eat all the still remaining sugar in the KT liquid. Even the acidity > at the end of your KT brewing may be good enough to give your new brew > sufficient acidity. 1/2 - 1 cup added to your new brew should be sufficient. > > > yours acidically ;-) > > Margret :-) > > -- > +----------- ------- Minstrel@... ------------ --------+ > http://www.therpc. f9.co.uk/ family/scobygrow /home.html > http://bavarianmins trel.wordpress. com > creation.com > Be willing to let your schedule be altered if knowing God better requires it. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 I have Sarson's malt vinegar.. doesnt mention being distilled... anyone from the uk know if this is distilled? I just received a small scoby with very little tea. I was going to add some cider vinegar. (which is what I was instructed to do)... now I don't know what to use! Patti ________________________________ From: Jahjet <jahjet@...> kombucha tea Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 5:04:48 PM Subject: Re: help Hi, Margret, it is hard to find distilled " malt " vinegar " here, we have plain distilled though. Would that suffice?... Jahjet > > > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish = > > and better scoby. > > Hi , The best vinegar to add is acidic Kombucha, ready brewed. > If you are short of that, you can use distilled malt vinegar at the > beginning of the brewing cycle. > Just spoon a tablespoon of vinegar over your scoby/top of your new brew. > > Don't use cider vinegar (unless you boil it and cool it first), as this > contains a different culture called 'Mother of vinegar' which can mess > up your Kombucha culture. > > The acidity is good especially to ward off mold spores. > You can get Kombucha vinegar from a scoby hotel, where the scobys > eat all the still remaining sugar in the KT liquid. Even the acidity > at the end of your KT brewing may be good enough to give your new brew > sufficient acidity. 1/2 - 1 cup added to your new brew should be sufficient. > > > yours acidically ;-) > > Margret :-) > > -- > +----------- ------- Minstrel@... ------------ --------+ > http://www.therpc. f9.co.uk/ family/scobygrow /home.html > http://bavarianmins trel.wordpress. com > creation.com > Be willing to let your schedule be altered if knowing God better requires it. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 hi, Patty, it should say distilled.. i use plain distilled.. jahjet > > > > > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish = > > > and better scoby. > > > > Hi , The best vinegar to add is acidic Kombucha, ready brewed. > > If you are short of that, you can use distilled malt vinegar at the > > beginning of the brewing cycle. > > Just spoon a tablespoon of vinegar over your scoby/top of your new brew. > > > > Don't use cider vinegar (unless you boil it and cool it first), as this > > contains a different culture called 'Mother of vinegar' which can mess > > up your Kombucha culture. > > > > The acidity is good especially to ward off mold spores. > > You can get Kombucha vinegar from a scoby hotel, where the scobys > > eat all the still remaining sugar in the KT liquid. Even the acidity > > at the end of your KT brewing may be good enough to give your new brew > > sufficient acidity. 1/2 - 1 cup added to your new brew should be sufficient. > > > > > > yours acidically ;-) > > > > Margret :-) > > > > -- > > +----------- ------- Minstrel@ ------------ --------+ > > http://www.therpc. f9.co.uk/ family/scobygrow /home.html > > http://bavarianmins trel.wordpress. com > > creation.com > > Be willing to let your schedule be altered if knowing God better requires it. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 hi, Patty, it should say distilled.. i use plain distilled.. jahjet > > > > > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish = > > > and better scoby. > > > > Hi , The best vinegar to add is acidic Kombucha, ready brewed. > > If you are short of that, you can use distilled malt vinegar at the > > beginning of the brewing cycle. > > Just spoon a tablespoon of vinegar over your scoby/top of your new brew. > > > > Don't use cider vinegar (unless you boil it and cool it first), as this > > contains a different culture called 'Mother of vinegar' which can mess > > up your Kombucha culture. > > > > The acidity is good especially to ward off mold spores. > > You can get Kombucha vinegar from a scoby hotel, where the scobys > > eat all the still remaining sugar in the KT liquid. Even the acidity > > at the end of your KT brewing may be good enough to give your new brew > > sufficient acidity. 1/2 - 1 cup added to your new brew should be sufficient. > > > > > > yours acidically ;-) > > > > Margret :-) > > > > -- > > +----------- ------- Minstrel@ ------------ --------+ > > http://www.therpc. f9.co.uk/ family/scobygrow /home.html > > http://bavarianmins trel.wordpress. com > > creation.com > > Be willing to let your schedule be altered if knowing God better requires it. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2010 OOOPS i am not from the UK...sorry..... Jahjet Smile..( as much as i love malt vinegar) > > > > > should you add vinegar to your brew in the beginning to help establish = > > > and better scoby. > > > > Hi , The best vinegar to add is acidic Kombucha, ready brewed. > > If you are short of that, you can use distilled malt vinegar at the > > beginning of the brewing cycle. > > Just spoon a tablespoon of vinegar over your scoby/top of your new brew. > > > > Don't use cider vinegar (unless you boil it and cool it first), as this > > contains a different culture called 'Mother of vinegar' which can mess > > up your Kombucha culture. > > > > The acidity is good especially to ward off mold spores. > > You can get Kombucha vinegar from a scoby hotel, where the scobys > > eat all the still remaining sugar in the KT liquid. Even the acidity > > at the end of your KT brewing may be good enough to give your new brew > > sufficient acidity. 1/2 - 1 cup added to your new brew should be sufficient. > > > > > > yours acidically ;-) > > > > Margret :-) > > > > -- > > +------------------ Minstrel@ --------------------+ > > http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk/family/scobygrow/home.html > > http://bavarianminstrel.wordpress.com > > creation.com > > Be willing to let your schedule be altered if knowing God better requires it. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
