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Well, I hope things improve for you. We are all hoping

for new and better treatments down the road. For me my

liver was enlarged, though not greatly. -dz-

--- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> dz mine has always been around the 300,000 think

> it's cause of the genotype

> 3a but my liver is definitely getting no better

> only a slow but steady

> decline,... that tends to speed up as time

> goes---liver is shrinking now &

> have 'nodules' but fortunately the nodules are of

> regenerated liver & not

> the cancerous kind!<g>

> arlene

>

> imaganeer wrote:

>

> > Mine was over a million when I started. The test

> they

> > gave me would only measure up to one million, so I

> > have no idea how much over that it was. All I know

> is

> > it's undetectable now!! Sounds like your getting

> > pretty close too. -dz-

> >

> > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > > last checked my viral load is about 333,000, but

> > > that is also considered low

> > > compared to the people who are up in the

> millions!

> > > arlene

> > >

> > > diane214@... wrote:

> > >

> > > > Machelle..... are you sure he didn't say your

> > > Viral Load was

> > > > 3000???????? I have ust never heard of the ALT

> &

> > > AST'S being that

> > > > high........ It should be 2 different numbers

> > > because they are 2

> > > > separate things.... Check it out hon!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Angel Hugs,

> > > > Diane

> > > >

> > > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love,

> > > Hope, Peace & Unity

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Gee Terry, that sucks.

I have been celibate since i found out and i dont see that changing after

I start treatment next month....lol. Maybe try something kinky? LOL.......

At 09:02 AM 2/26/02 -0800, you wrote:

Guys I don't know how to

ask this question, It is

kind of personal.

While on treatment did any of you men experience

any problems in the bedroom " not being able to do any

thing " and what did you do about it if any thing.

Terry

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Hi Terry

The problem I had was that I felt to lousy to do anything much of the time.

Otherwise I don't recall any specific problem. People react differently

though.

Dennis

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> Guys I don't know how to ask this question, It is

> kind of personal.

> While on treatment did any of you men experience

> any problems in the bedroom " not being able to do any

> thing " and what did you do about it if any thing.

> Terry

>

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I am not sure if this occurred because my drive was

pretty low. In short, our sex life diminished quite a

bit. I think that is pretty common -dz-

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> Guys I don't know how to ask this question, It is

> kind of personal.

> While on treatment did any of you men experience

> any problems in the bedroom " not being able to do

> any

> thing " and what did you do about it if any thing.

> Terry

>

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, we started using SN last year amongst some anxiety from HVs. However the

SN are now well accepted members of a few teams. They underwent an academic

module at university as an introduction to primary care and some in house

training in dev, assessment, audiology, squint detection,record

keeping,accountability, child protection,breastfeeding etc. They do core dev.

assessment, support visits for breastfeeders, follow up visits for multiple

births, weaning talks, help with audiology, clinics etc. 2 are now being

sponsored to do HV training next year which is satisfying in career development

terms. We are still recruiting SN and also NN and are beginning to see the

advantages of a rich skill mix complemented by clerical support. good luck with

your developments. Alison

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Hello,

My name is Blakemore. I am a HV in Feltham, Middx. We have busy

caseloads, high child protection numbers and staff vacancies. I have been

appointed one day a week to do 'practice development'

Some of us are very keen to change practice but we seem to be on a treadmill

of 'crisis contacts' with not much opportunity for preventative work. We

have excellent nursery nurses and are now considering the role of staff

nurses.

I am very keen to hear how staff nurses are being used within a HV team and

if anyone has changed how they run baby clinics

Look forward to your response

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I can't answer as a guy but I do know if you are on

anti-depressants, they are famous for destryoing the

libido.

Sharon

--- Dennis <dhuber@...> wrote:

> Hi Terry

>

> The problem I had was that I felt to lousy to do

> anything much of the time.

> Otherwise I don't recall any specific problem.

> People react differently

> though.

>

> Dennis

>

> [ ] (unknown)

>

>

> > Guys I don't know how to ask this question, It

> is

> > kind of personal.

> > While on treatment did any of you men

> experience

> > any problems in the bedroom " not being able to do

> any

> > thing " and what did you do about it if any thing.

> > Terry

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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I was going to ask my Doctor on my next trip " next

month " .

Terry

--- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> VIAGRA????????? maybe--just a thought

>

> MarketEdgeDirect wrote:

>

> > Gee Terry, that sucks.

> > I have been celibate since i found out and i dont

> see that changing

> > after I start treatment next month....lol. Maybe

> try something kinky?

> > LOL.......

> >

> > At 09:02 AM 2/26/02 -0800, you wrote:

> >

> >> Guys I don't know how to ask this question, It

> is

> >> kind of personal.

> >> While on treatment did any of you men

> experience

> >> any problems in the bedroom " not being able to do

> any

> >> thing " and what did you do about it if any thing.

> >> Terry

> >>

> >>

> __________________________________________________

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That's what happens w/this disease. You'll get better. You'll laugh again. The crying w/diminish.

I've been on AP for 6 mts, I can excersie again (not like I use to, but give me time).

Josie

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In a message dated 3/1/02 3:09:10 AM GTB Standard Time, jeffii@...

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Ask them this... " If you vaccinate your child, then you MUST feel vaccines

work....so...why are you so concerned about unvaccinated children? I mean,

if the vaccines WORK, then what are you afraid of? >>

Sometimes they counter with...well until the age of 2 my child is

unprotected,and therefore exposure to your unvaccinated child poses a risk.In

reply I would say...when was the last time you were vaccinated? Do you even

have immunity? What about pertussis...are you aware that teens and adults are

the ones spreading this illness to children? What about the eldery who have

had hardly any of the vaccines,are they not a threat?

sara

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In a message dated 3/1/02 4:45:33 AM GTB Standard Time, jeffii@...

writes:

<< You could've heard a pin drop in that ER, though. I figure if

I can at least plant a few seeds along the way, in any way I can, I will.

Kim >>

Good for you Kim!

And I hope your son is healing/healed well :)

Sara

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This is how I put it in a speech I made:

" Public Health will say that these vaccines must be mandatory or these

diseases will spread. But if the vaccines work, anyone choosing them will

be protected. If they don’t prevent the spread of the disease to the

vaccinated, what is the point? It hardly seems right that those who don’t

want to be vaccinated should be required to be vaccinated, because vaccines

don’t always work. "

Sandy from Alaska

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WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE

MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

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well I did it now. I post on baby center and since we all have 15 mo olds

vaccines have been a topic a lot lately I didn't say anything for a long

while but when they started saying people who don't vaccinate or

irresponsible and senseless. and that ER had a show about vaccines--and the

reactions their babies were having to shots I felt I could say something.

I posted my position in a nutshell and said this is why I don't vaccinate my

son. Well of course you can imagine the response. I guess I don't have as

thick of skin as I thought I did.

One mom said she doesn't care if vaccines are made out of the most vial

stuff out of a gas station bathroom she would give them to her child to keep

them safe. Then of course I was arrogant to think I knew more than the Drs

and I must have been reading on the internet :)

The biggest thing that I always hear is that you are endangering my child by

your not vaccinating and I wonder how you respond to that?

Malissa

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Malissa,

Ask them this... " If you vaccinate your child, then you MUST feel vaccines

work....so...why are you so concerned about unvaccinated children? I mean,

if the vaccines WORK, then what are you afraid of? I mean, if they work,

then anything the unvaccinated child " carries " shouldn't affect your child,

because they've been vaccinated against it, right? " They usually, when I

ask them to their face, give me a puzzled look, and then go, " Oh, well,

yeah, I can see your point....end of discussion.

Kim

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> well I did it now. I post on baby center and since we all have 15 mo olds

> vaccines have been a topic a lot lately I didn't say anything for a long

> while but when they started saying people who don't vaccinate or

> irresponsible and senseless. and that ER had a show about vaccines--and

the

>

>

> Malissa

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Tell them that they are endangering their child for what they are willing to

inject into your child. Then refuse to argue with them as long as they are

willing to remain ignorant. Remaining ignorant is not even accepting that you

*might* be right.

God gave us everything necessary to have healthy children. He did *NOT* give us

vaccines. JMO!

Jo in FL/VA

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The biggest thing that I always hear is that you are endangering my child by

your not vaccinating and I wonder how you respond to that?

Malissa

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what ignorance! how can you endanger their child if

they believe that vaxing is so safe and necessary????

tell them in no uncertain terms that you should be the

one worried, since your child is not vaxxed and why

are they seeing an unvaxed child as a threat!!!!

can you post this website? i'd sure like to post

there.

:-)

claudia

--- Malissa Chapin <chapins61198@...> wrote:

> The biggest thing that I always hear is that you are

> endangering my child by

> your not vaccinating and I wonder how you respond to

> that?

>

>

> Malissa

>

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Terry & Jan I'll meet you all as I have the chainsaw-9mm- & the 4x4

arlene Just say when & where

BTW People get lost up here in Oregon very easily & they never get found til

the summertime & sometimes not for years!!!!!LOL

Terry Long wrote:

> Good morning Jan

> How are you doing this morning. If you every get

> that chain saw. There is lot's of desert out here.

> Where no one ever goes. I can even borrow a 4X4 to get

> you out there.

> Terry

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Sara,

Yes, that was good. I remembered that I've also said something like, " Well,

you know, we used to vaccinate our son, until we almost lost him. We

totally believed in vaccination until we did our own research....so, how

much research have YOU done? " They will usually reply they haven't done any

research on the negative side of vaccination....either the conversation goes

flat after that, or we continue.

It's interesting, though....I had to take into the ER for possible

stitches (we didn't do), and I was asked by the attending physician if

was up-to-date on his vaccinations. I told him in no uncertain terms (I was

in a bad mood, anyway)...that we weren't even going to go there. I told him

very briefly about 's reactions as an infant and what happened, and that

we no longer vaccinate. He didn't say another word...but a male nurse

overheard my conversation with this physician outside of the office. As I

was leaving with , he stopped me and asked me point blank what I felt

about vaccines, as he'd been having more and more questions about them. So

we had a nice little conversation right there in the ER about vaccines; the

doctor was standing near us and I could tell he was fuming, but he didn't

say a word. You could've heard a pin drop in that ER, though. I figure if

I can at least plant a few seeds along the way, in any way I can, I will.

Kim

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>

>

> > well I did it now. I post on baby center and since we all have 15 mo

olds

> > vaccines have been a topic a lot lately I didn't say anything for a long

> > while but when they started saying people who don't vaccinate or

> > irresponsible and senseless. and that ER had a show about vaccines--and

> the

> >

> >

> > Malissa

> >

> >

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Terry --I've been feelin' quite well since gettin' rid of my long-lasting

cold/flu virus the only thing that got rid of it for me was a series of

Penicillin.as all viruses I get now turn into infections!! Only problem I've

still got is the abdonimal pain & swelling other than that I've doing GREAT

& have been on the GO for about 10 days straight now...I know I should slow

down a bit....but after being sooo sick for so long.....I feel I HAVE to make

up for lost time<g> And it does feel great getting out & about again!!

arlene

Terry Long wrote:

> Good morning all

> It is a nice day here. I hope things are going

> well for all of you. I was sorry to hear your

> news, I'll be praying for you. Jan, Diane, Dz, Dennis,

> , Arline, Machelle, Vicky and everyone else out

> there how are you all doing well I hope.

> I'm still battling the sore throat, itching & the

> total lack of a sex drive. The sleepless nights are

> back again also at least the last two nights. I will

> survive the treatment & looking forward to beating

> this dragon. I will be taking my 6th shot tonight when

> I get home from work.

> The hardest part for me to cope with is the TOTAL

> lack of a SEX DRIVE. When I see the Doctor again on

> the 11th. I will see if he can give me something to

> battle these side affects.

> Praying for all of you

> Terry

>

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The biggest thing that I always hear is that you are endangering my child by

your not vaccinating and I wonder how you respond to that?

Malissa

I would ask them 'Who says?' Then when they say 'The experts', blast them with

the history of what experts have given us.....thalidomide, disease resistant

anti-biotics, mammograms, flouride, mad cow disease, lead poisoning, pinks

disease, polio, the list is endless. Oh and don't forget the medical induced

deaths due to negligence, again committed by experts. These 'experts' are just

little puppet toady's that can't think for themselves, cause if they did, they'd

be out of a job.

Sorry to rant, but you don't have to be an expert to examine the facts on what

is happening in California at the moment. I would tell these people to not be

so lazy and go LOOK FOR THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!

Chin up and don't let them get you down

Joanna

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joanna athome <joanna_at_home@...> wrote:

The biggest thing that I always hear is that you are endangering my child by

your not vaccinating and I wonder how you respond to that?

Malissa

Oh dear, can't get anything right today, looks like I'm the only one who

responded like a banshee warrior!!!!!

Okay, more calm approach. Just ask them if they would sprinkle mercury,

formaldehye, aluminium and aborted foetuses on little johnny's cereal....they

look at you like your mad, then they think about it..

Joanna

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In a message dated 3/1/02 2:15:32 PM GTB Standard Time,

vaccineinfo@... writes:

<<

search around for other sections too!

Give Father to Kings a piece of your mind! >>

lol,he is an annoying little bugger.I see him now at parents place vaccine

board doling out the *advice*.

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>It's interesting, though....I had to take into the ER for possible

>stitches (we didn't do), and I was asked by the attending physician if

>was up-to-date on his vaccinations. I told him in no uncertain terms (I was

>in a bad mood, anyway)...that we weren't even going to go there. I told him

>very briefly about 's reactions as an infant and what happened, and that

>we no longer vaccinate. He didn't say another word...but a male nurse

>overheard my conversation with this physician outside of the office. As I

>was leaving with , he stopped me and asked me point blank what I felt

>about vaccines, as he'd been having more and more questions about them. So

>we had a nice little conversation right there in the ER about vaccines; the

>doctor was standing near us and I could tell he was fuming, but he didn't

>say a word. You could've heard a pin drop in that ER, though. I figure if

>I can at least plant a few seeds along the way, in any way I can, I will.

>

>Kim

>

That's great Kim!

Sheri

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There are many boards at babycenter

The one I go on occasionally - used to be there a lot until Sara and others

came and now handle very nicely

http://www.babycenter.com/bbs/3353

search around for other sections too!

Give Father to Kings a piece of your mind!

Sheri

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terr--- the first house Ken & I bought was only about 800 sq ft--very small

rooms..but when my Mom moved up here in '94 we had to get a bigger place as

she couldn't move around too well with her walker & I was always afraid she'd

fall & hit her head on woodstove or??

So the house we bought(there were only 2 vacant & available properties around

here @ that time + we needed acreage for my horse(by this time I was down to

just the one horse- had had 5) So when Mom had to move into care center(due

to all of the strokes she'd had-hospital would'nt let her come home) I

thought we'd move out of this house- Mom was gone & I had sold the last

horse. This house is almost 100 sq ft & has just over 5 ac. on a

mountainside......but Mom & the horse have both been gone for over 6 years

now & we're still here.... It's in a very ideal area..not any noisy

neighbors(anymore) Ken bitches & moans about the payments & being so far

from most of his jobs(union)....but in truth he loves it here....neither one

of us could stand living in the metro area.......horns blasting--guns being

shot--murders--sirens going off all hours of the night!! He always says

we've got this place set up just right.

the stairs can be a hassle at times- when I'm not feeling too well....but @

those times I stay downstairs & he brings me my food & meds(when he's home)

most of the time I can manage & so far I haven't fallen down the stairs<g> +

they can be good exercise!! Also he just bought that new dishwasher for me &

bought a 3 year warranty on it..so I guess we won't be moving any time soon!!

arlene

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> Arlene, We sold our home a little over three years

> ago, Mom's house was 1550 Sq foot & we added 160 Sq

> foot & was built in 1978. Is in a nice area Our old

> house was only 940 Sq foot & was built in 1955 " Before

> Suzy was born " & was in not so nice area. Both kids

> were already out of the house. So it;s just three of

> us. A couple of times was having money problems &

> would move in for a few weeks. It has worked real well

> so far with just the three of us.

> Susy is a nurse's aid & should be able to take care

> of Mom till her last day's " I hope that is for

> several years. I have grown preaty close to her seance

> my parents passed away.

> You will see over time that I'm not long winded,

> Just say what's on my mind but a condenced form.

> Taking care of Mom is one of the resons were still in

> Az. Or I would be checking into a transfer to Madison

> Wi. I'm not very likely to quit & move up back to the

> midwest. I did that when we moved to AZ. The first two

> years was very hard work wise. There was a resation. I

> would land a Job in a few months they would have a

> lay-off & being new I would be layed off. I thank I

> had 4 differnt jobs & was 6 months unemployed. Befor

> starting with my Company. I spent 7 months as a

> Janitor, 17 years working in the warehouse. 15 years

> of those as the lead warehouse man. 16 months ago I

> went into lower Managment.

> So starting over again at 48 scares me. If they

> closed the plant & I had to start over again. I would

> most likely move back tp Central MO. Around Columbia.

> But not in Columbia. Columbia is around 1,000,000. I

> want to live in a town less then 10,000. But close to

> Columbia for the Doctors & shoping.

> Terry

>

> --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > So Terry you finally got long-winded it's aout time

> > sounds like you & Suzy

> > have a wonderful full family down there We took in

> > my mom when she was 81 &

> > she lived with us for over two years til she began

> > having a series of strokes

> > so the hospital sent to to care center near where we

> > live as I could no

> > longer take care of her on the 24/7 I had been.. she

> > needed anurse on call 24

> > hours aday & unfortunately I'm not a nurse

> > arlene

> >

> > Terry Long wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Machelle

> > > I'm Terry from just outside of Phoenix AZ. My

> > wife

> > > is Susy. We have been married for 24 years next

> > month.

> > > We live in the same house with my Mother In-law

> > for

> > > the last three years. Susy's takes care of her

> > Mom,

> > > Mom is 82 years old in failing health.

> > > He have two kids, will be 25 next

> > month

> > > " was from Susy's first marrage & I

> > adopted

> > > her as soon as we could get the dead beat to sign

> > the

> > > papers. is By-Polar & lives in Phoenix.

> >

> > > is 23 years old He got married last. March, the

> > two of

> > > them moved up to WI last December. Three years ago

> > > had a baby Petter but the state took him

> > > away from her after a week. We raised Petter for 7

> > > months. But taking care of Mom & was to

> > much.

> > > Some close friends of Susy's sister had been

> > wanting

> > > to adopt a little boy & was willing for Susy & I

> > to

> > > keep in close contact " phone calls letters & even

> > > visting him when were back there. So they adoted

> > > . The have a daughyer they adoted earlyer

> > " Abby "

> > > We took Abby as a granddaughter. Abby will be 9

> > next

> > > month. So we have two grandkids. 's wife had a

> > > misscarge last year we count him as our grandchild

> > > that has gone home to & we will see him when were

> > > called home.

> > > We have three small dogs one is Mom's one is

> > Susy's

> > > the third was suppose to have been 's dog but

> > the

> > > dog decidded he belonged to me. We are busy in our

> > > small church. I have worked for the same Company

> > > " Sub-Zero Freezer out of Madison Wi " for the last

> > 19

> > > years.

> > > I haven't said this much in one posting ever.

> > > Terry

> > > --- Dennis <dhuber@...> wrote:

> > > > Hi Machelle,

> > > >

> > > > Dennis from NH - south east near the coast.

> > Been

> > > > through Interferon 1 yr &

> > > > Interferon/Rebetron 1 yr & was a partial

> > responder.

> > > > My count went to

> > > > undetectable and then bounced back after I went

> > off

> > > > the med. Had some bad

> > > > times with depression during the last part of

> > the

> > > > med. Am only doing milk

> > > > thistle now. Haven't bothered to have my count

> > > > checked in a year - maybe I

> > > > will - but what will it matter?

> > > > I have some friends (2 dogs, 3 hens, 1 bunny, 1

> > big

> > > > fish). Judy has some

> > > > friends (2 cats). Dan, our son has an Iguana

> > and a

> > > > Piranha (not in the same

> > > > cage).

> > > > Judy is an artist and teaches reiki. I have a

> > > > couple of small sailboats and

> > > > am into nature, forestry, and wildlife habitat.

> > I

> > > > work at a prep school

> > > > and am in charge of the grounds. I like it but

> > am

> > > > ready to move to Vermont

> > > > and live quietly on some nice land away from

> > cities

> > > > and all that goes with

> > > > them.

> > > > We hike and camp when he can and are physically

> > > > able.

> > > > Great group we have here. Glad you joined.

> > Come on

> > > > up and get some fresh

> > > > eggs any time.

> > > >

> > > > Dennis

> > > >

> > > > Re: [ ] (unknown)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have that problem most of the, had it

> > before

> > > > I

> > > > > > started TX so I can't blame it on that.

> > Maybe to

> > > > some

> > > > > > I could pass it off as old age. My kids

> > would

> > > > buy that

> > > > > > one.

> > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > I have no idea Diane..Guess we either both

> > > > missed it

> > > > > > > or both have CRS today

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > > > >

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