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That happens every once in a while. One of our group,

I think Sandy, mentioned that there was some

maintenance. Other than that, I think sometimes a

server goes down and mail is rerouted along another

path and you start getting mail out of sequence.

-dz-

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> I everyone, what's going on with . Today I

> have

> gotten mail from Sunday, Monday & a few from today.

> But postings to the group I sent out today three

> hours

> ago & some I sent out yesterday still hasn't gone

> through. I miss hearing from all of you.

> Terry

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi Terry

we even got some snow up here in Oregon today...just a bit

arlene

Terry Long wrote:

Good morning everyone. Our weather is back up

into the low 80's for our highs "above normal for this time a year. They

are saying that it's going to be back down into the low 70's for the highs

this weekend "more normal temps for this time a year". But then start going

back into the 80's the first of next week. I guess I had better get use

to the hot weather, it looks like from now till October.

Jan I hope things are going well with you, keep

on giving those Doctors heck. They sure treat you as if they are doing

you a favor seeing you. When I see my PC, I always have to wait & wait

before they call me back, then wait & wait before he comes into the

room. One good thing is he does not rush through my anointment, listens

to my conserns. He wasn't very knowageble about Hep C. But did give me

a referal to my Hep C doctor. My Hep C doctor I set my apointment's up

two months a head. I get the first apointment in the afternoon & only

once had to wait in thier. I will be praying for you, you will make it

through the sugery just fine.

Dz, Diane & Dennis are you enjoying the snow? I

wish I could be back there I would be enjoying the snow. It's funny 21

years ago when I left central Mo to move out here to get away from the

winters. I thought I would never miss the winters. For the first ten years

out here I thought I would stay out here forever. But now I'm only staying

here because of my job & planing on leaving the day after I retire

& head back to the midwest, but that is 18 years away from now.

I hope things are going better for you. I am keeping

you & your family in my prayers.

Hi , How are things going with Greg & his wife. Don't

worry about him to much sonner & latter he will come around & start

fighting this.

I know there is others I want to say Hi to but this dam TX

is working on my mind & am having trouble thinking

Praying for all of you

Terry

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In a message dated 3/5/02 6:27:47 PM Pacific Standard Time,

iglooman1000@... writes:

> Hello All,

> Has anyone had ear (hearing) related problems

> associated with P.A.?

>

,

Yes there can be hearing problems related to the PA. It is not necessarily

the PA itself, so much as the pain medications be taken. Things like Tylenol,

naproxen sodium, Lodine, and other pain medicines can cause diminishment in

your hearing over time and ringing in your ears. I find myself not being

able to hear monotone conversation in a room where there is other noise

surrounding me. The middle tones just seem to drift away. Its almost like

listening to a bad cell phone or watching someone's mouth moving, knowing

they are speaking to you, but only hearing parts of the conversation and

having to ask them to repeat themselves multiple times. Bummer.

Carol in Vancouver, WA

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Hi Jim,

You said:

<<I've been a member of this group for a while. I haven't posted before

now but after reading some posts for a while I would like to know

what actions this group is taking to stop all of these drug

companies. I would like to help.>>

We are just beginning to get organized in his respect. We can always

use more helping hands. Please let us know what types of things you

would be willing to do, and how we can best utilze your skills.

For example, can you do graphic design work? Are you good at writing?

Researching? Would you be willing to distribute flyers? Do you prefer

to work alone or as part of a two or three person team? Again, these

are just examples.

Thanks for speaking up, Jim. We'd be pleased to have your assistance.

Regards,

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I notice you sent it tue night and I am just receiving

it thu morning. It wasn't here when I first logged on

this morning. -dz-

--- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> Yeah,it's pretty weird. They were down for

> maintenance yesterday and everythings screwed up

> today. Maybe you'll get this by next week.

> Sharon

> --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > I everyone, what's going on with . Today I

> > have

> > gotten mail from Sunday, Monday & a few from

> today.

> > But postings to the group I sent out today three

> > hours

> > ago & some I sent out yesterday still hasn't gone

> > through. I miss hearing from all of you.

> > Terry

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Do you think we'll get Monday's mail,next week?

Sharon

--- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> I notice you sent it tue night and I am just

> receiving

> it thu morning. It wasn't here when I first logged

> on

> this morning. -dz-

>

> --- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> > Yeah,it's pretty weird. They were down for

> > maintenance yesterday and everythings screwed up

> > today. Maybe you'll get this by next week.

> > Sharon

> > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > I everyone, what's going on with . Today

> I

> > > have

> > > gotten mail from Sunday, Monday & a few from

> > today.

> > > But postings to the group I sent out today three

> > > hours

> > > ago & some I sent out yesterday still hasn't

> gone

> > > through. I miss hearing from all of you.

> > > Terry

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

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we made it to low 40's by this afternoon--But by Sunday we're supposed to be

up in the 50's-- but then that is a Portland forecast & where we live it's

always 8-10 degrees cooler It's in low 30's--wrong again I just cchecked &

it's 29!! so by early AM we'll be in low 20's....Oh How I wish July would

hurry up & get here(warm)

all the snow is gone -it melted off by late morning but they had a sn;w day

for the schools(no school if theres even an inch of snow or if it's icy)

These kids would never make it back east where it really snows<g>!!!!!!

ace

imaganeer wrote:

> We're getting up into the 40's today, then tomorrow

> it's supposed to drop after a high in the morning,

> back down below 20. At least it should melt a lot of

> the snow pileup. -dz-

>

> --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> >

> > Good morning everyone. Our weather is back up

> > into the low 80's for our highs " above normal for

> > this time a year. They are saying that it's going to

> > be back down into the low 70's for the highs this

> > weekend " more normal temps for this time a year " .

> > But then start going back into the 80's the first of

> > next week. I guess I had better get use to the hot

> > weather, it looks like from now till October.

> >

> > Jan I hope things are going well with you, keep

> > on giving those Doctors heck. They sure treat you as

> > if they are doing you a favor seeing you. When I see

> > my PC, I always have to wait & wait before they call

> > me back, then wait & wait before he comes into the

> > room. One good thing is he does not rush through my

> > anointment, listens to my conserns. He wasn't very

> > knowageble about Hep C. But did give me a referal to

> > my Hep C doctor. My Hep C doctor I set my

> > apointment's up two months a head. I get the first

> > apointment in the afternoon & only once had to wait

> > in thier. I will be praying for you, you will make

> > it through the sugery just fine.

> >

> > Dz, Diane & Dennis are you enjoying the snow? I

> > wish I could be back there I would be enjoying the

> > snow. It's funny 21 years ago when I left central Mo

> > to move out here to get away from the winters. I

> > thought I would never miss the winters. For the

> > first ten years out here I thought I would stay out

> > here forever. But now I'm only staying here because

> > of my job & planing on leaving the day after I

> > retire & head back to the midwest, but that is 18

> > years away from now.

> >

> > I hope things are going better for you. I

> > am keeping you & your family in my prayers.

> >

> > Hi , How are things going with Greg & his

> > wife. Don't worry about him to much sonner & latter

> > he will come around & start fighting this.

> >

> > I know there is others I want to say Hi to but

> > this dam TX is working on my mind & am having

> > trouble thinking

> >

> > Praying for all of you

> >

> > Terry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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I am sure Greg will come around I am hoping before he is sick. [ ] (unknown) Good morning everyone. Our weather is back up into the low 80's for our highs "above normal for this time a year. They are saying that it's going to be back down into the low 70's for the highs this weekend "more normal temps for this time a year". But then start going back into the 80's the first of next week. I guess I had better get use to the hot weather, it looks like from now till October. Jan I hope things are going well with you, keep on giving those Doctors heck. They sure treat you as if they are doing you a favor seeing you. When I see my PC, I always have to wait & wait before they call me back, then wait & wait before he comes into the room. One good thing is he does not rush through my anointment, listens to my conserns. He wasn't very knowageble about Hep C. But did give me a referal to my Hep C doctor. My Hep C doctor I set my apointment's up two months a head. I get the first apointment in the afternoon & only once had to wait in thier. I will be praying for you, you will make it through the sugery just fine. Dz, Diane & Dennis are you enjoying the snow? I wish I could be back there I would be enjoying the snow. It's funny 21 years ago when I left central Mo to move out here to get away from the winters. I thought I would never miss the winters. For the first ten years out here I thought I would stay out here forever. But now I'm only staying here because of my job & planing on leaving the day after I retire & head back to the midwest, but that is 18 years away from now. I hope things are going better for you. I am keeping you & your family in my prayers. Hi , How are things going with Greg & his wife. Don't worry about him to much sonner & latter he will come around & start fighting this. I know there is others I want to say Hi to but this dam TX is working on my mind & am having trouble thinking Praying for all of you Terry

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<< you should be able to get that information without too much

trouble, but you will need to do it yourself. >>

You should be able to go to the hospital medical records department and fill

out a form stating what information you want. You don't even need the full

hospital record.

M.

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Is this loss of hearing irreversible? Do you regain your hearing once you stop

taking those meds? I remember someone posting an article a while back about

codeine and that it can cause loss of hearing when used for a long time. I

would appreciate any info being that I have taken both medications over a long

period of time.

Thanks,

>>> cacombe@... 03/06/02 11:19PM >>>

In a message dated 3/5/02 6:27:47 PM Pacific Standard Time,

iglooman1000@... writes:

> Hello All,

> Has anyone had ear (hearing) related problems

> associated with P.A.?

>

,

Yes there can be hearing problems related to the PA. It is not necessarily

the PA itself, so much as the pain medications be taken. Things like Tylenol,

naproxen sodium, Lodine, and other pain medicines can cause diminishment in

your hearing over time and ringing in your ears. I find myself not being

able to hear monotone conversation in a room where there is other noise

surrounding me. The middle tones just seem to drift away. Its almost like

listening to a bad cell phone or watching someone's mouth moving, knowing

they are speaking to you, but only hearing parts of the conversation and

having to ask them to repeat themselves multiple times. Bummer.

Carol in Vancouver, WA

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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:10:00 -0700

From: " Kimmie " <kimmielee@...>

Subject: Re: Re: (unknown)

>> Hi Kim, I had a similar experience. My symptoms began while I was

pregnant. I had Group Strep B so I was put on an antibiotic drip while my

labor was induced. I was in remission for 3 or 4 weeks after that. I wish

I knew what antibiotic they used on me. That was 4 years ago. I have asked

doctors and nurses at the hospital what they think the drip was, but I can't

get any answers. <<

In most states in the USA you are entitled to your medical records by law.

The easiest place to find the information you seek will be in the billing

records where the hospital will have listed the drug used. Copies of the

full billing record simply do not draw attention. If the billing records

are inadequate, you are entitled to a copy of your complete chart, etc.

Sometimes that can be a bit harder to get, you may have to put up a bit of a

fuss as even though the law is on your side, many people do not want to obey

it. Either way, you should be able to get that information without too much

trouble, but you will need to do it yourself. Asking the hospital staff to

do it for you is a prescription for frustration.

HTH

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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 19:21:21 -0600

From: Kim Gallant <kimgal@...>

Subject: Re: Re: (unknown)

>> Prednisone did work wonders, but the side effects were too great to

continue at 50mg daily doses. I am still on 5mg per day and hope to taper

slowly over the next three or four months. <<

Prednsone's " wonder " is that it hides the symptoms as the disease

progresses. This is a very, an extremely important thing to remember. The

disease prgresses in hiding, effectively masquerading as being " better "

because of the hiding of the symptoms.

Yes, it is important to get relief from the symptoms, sometimes it is vital.

But no matter how vital that may be it is even more important to know that

Prednisone just hides what is going on from view.

>> I know that my road back will not always be like the first two weeks. I

also know that I will push myself to the extreme as that is my personality.

My goal is to eliminate the prednisone, methotrexate and oxycontin drug

regime. I can only keep focusing on my goal. <<

You never know. Some people actually skate, maybe you will be one of the

lucky ones.

Geoff

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There are things they can give you that help. My dr

first gave me benedryl, but I couldn't take it, made

me to hyper. He then gave me reglan which seemed to

help. -dz-

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone from rainy southern Az. You are seeing

> it right. We finnaly got some rain our first this

> year, the first seance the first part of November. I

> am loving it. Our high temps should be a little

> lower tomorrow. I haven't seen the weather tonight,

> but if were getting rain this time a year. They

> should be getting snow in northen Az. The ski

> resorts will like that.

>

> Everything eles is going about the same. This

> itching is driving me up the hall & if Susy catching

> me scratching the itch she gets all over me. When I

> see the Doctor on Monday I will talk to him about

> the itching & the problem in the bedroom " Susy say's

> it doesn't bother her but it sure as hell bothers

> me " .

>

> I'm keeping all of you in my prayers.

>

> Terry

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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<<A Letter to the American Public,

As election year rolls along, one of the most important issues to be

addressed is that of health care. Our health care system is one of the best

in the world, and we're always striving to make it better. Of particular

interest, is making it more individualized and tailored to our needs. We

can do this by sharing information - especially doctor-patient information

concerning our health.>>

This needs to be distributed far andwide with citations to

support the facts. Let's talk about this.

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Dear ,

Great. That is 's hope. I've sent you as much information as I have

through the old stamp on the envelope mail. I'll try to add the

citations and perhaps you'll find better ones.

Suzy

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

><SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: (unknown)

>Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:16:38 -0500

>

><<A Letter to the American Public,

>

> As election year rolls along, one of the most important issues to be

>addressed is that of health care. Our health care system is one of the

>best

>in the world, and we're always striving to make it better. Of particular

>interest, is making it more individualized and tailored to our needs. We

>can do this by sharing information - especially doctor-patient information

>concerning our health.>>

>

> This needs to be distributed far andwide with citations to

>support the facts. Let's talk about this.

>

>Regards,

>

>

>

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Dear ,

Great. That is 's hope. I've sent you as much information as I have

through the old stamp on the envelope mail. I'll try to add the

citations and perhaps you'll find better ones.

Suzy

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

><SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: (unknown)

>Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:16:38 -0500

>

><<A Letter to the American Public,

>

> As election year rolls along, one of the most important issues to be

>addressed is that of health care. Our health care system is one of the

>best

>in the world, and we're always striving to make it better. Of particular

>interest, is making it more individualized and tailored to our needs. We

>can do this by sharing information - especially doctor-patient information

>concerning our health.>>

>

> This needs to be distributed far andwide with citations to

>support the facts. Let's talk about this.

>

>Regards,

>

>

>

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Most of us are on numerous medications. I would

recommend that anyone who has psoriatic arthritis go

to a used book store and buy a drug handbook. Most of

these handbooks are printed every year and a used copy

will cost you $5-$10. They contain great information.

This doesn't take the place of talking to a medical

doctor or calling the pharmacist, but it can give you

some good basic information. In the beginning they

are hard to understand. Most contain an index to help

with the abbreviations. My wife is a RN and I use her

Nursing Drug Handbook all the time.

--- Sa <lesliesa@...> wrote:

> Is this loss of hearing irreversible? Do you regain

> your hearing once you stop taking those meds? I

> remember someone posting an article a while back

> about codeine and that it can cause loss of hearing

> when used for a long time. I would appreciate any

> info being that I have taken both medications over a

> long period of time.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> >>> cacombe@... 03/06/02 11:19PM >>>

> In a message dated 3/5/02 6:27:47 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> iglooman1000@... writes:

>

>

> > Hello All,

> > Has anyone had ear (hearing) related problems

> > associated with P.A.?

> >

>

>

> ,

> Yes there can be hearing problems related to the PA.

> It is not necessarily

> the PA itself, so much as the pain medications be

> taken. Things like Tylenol,

> naproxen sodium, Lodine, and other pain medicines

> can cause diminishment in

> your hearing over time and ringing in your ears. I

> find myself not being

> able to hear monotone conversation in a room where

> there is other noise

> surrounding me. The middle tones just seem to drift

> away. Its almost like

> listening to a bad cell phone or watching someone's

> mouth moving, knowing

> they are speaking to you, but only hearing parts of

> the conversation and

> having to ask them to repeat themselves multiple

> times. Bummer.

>

> Carol in Vancouver, WA

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

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We're getting up into the 40's today, then tomorrow

it's supposed to drop after a high in the morning,

back down below 20. At least it should melt a lot of

the snow pileup. -dz-

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

>

> Good morning everyone. Our weather is back up

> into the low 80's for our highs " above normal for

> this time a year. They are saying that it's going to

> be back down into the low 70's for the highs this

> weekend " more normal temps for this time a year " .

> But then start going back into the 80's the first of

> next week. I guess I had better get use to the hot

> weather, it looks like from now till October.

>

> Jan I hope things are going well with you, keep

> on giving those Doctors heck. They sure treat you as

> if they are doing you a favor seeing you. When I see

> my PC, I always have to wait & wait before they call

> me back, then wait & wait before he comes into the

> room. One good thing is he does not rush through my

> anointment, listens to my conserns. He wasn't very

> knowageble about Hep C. But did give me a referal to

> my Hep C doctor. My Hep C doctor I set my

> apointment's up two months a head. I get the first

> apointment in the afternoon & only once had to wait

> in thier. I will be praying for you, you will make

> it through the sugery just fine.

>

> Dz, Diane & Dennis are you enjoying the snow? I

> wish I could be back there I would be enjoying the

> snow. It's funny 21 years ago when I left central Mo

> to move out here to get away from the winters. I

> thought I would never miss the winters. For the

> first ten years out here I thought I would stay out

> here forever. But now I'm only staying here because

> of my job & planing on leaving the day after I

> retire & head back to the midwest, but that is 18

> years away from now.

>

> I hope things are going better for you. I

> am keeping you & your family in my prayers.

>

> Hi , How are things going with Greg & his

> wife. Don't worry about him to much sonner & latter

> he will come around & start fighting this.

>

> I know there is others I want to say Hi to but

> this dam TX is working on my mind & am having

> trouble thinking

>

> Praying for all of you

>

> Terry

>

>

>

>

>

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Arlene here in southern Az, I could wait for ever, If it never came around again. With temps running 110 to 120. You can have it.

Terry

ACE <arken@...> wrote: we made it to low 40's by this afternoon--But by Sunday we're supposed to beup in the 50's-- but then that is a Portland forecast & where we live it'salways 8-10 degrees cooler It's in low 30's--wrong again I just cchecked & it's 29!! so by early AM we'll be in low 20's....Oh How I wish July wouldhurry up & get here(warm)all the snow is gone -it melted off by late morning but they had a sn;w dayfor the schools(no school if theres even an inch of snow or if it's icy)These kids would never make it back east where it really snows<g>!!!!!!aceimaganeer wrote:> We're getting up into the 40's today, then tomorrow> it's supposed to drop after a high in the morning,> back down below 20. At least it should melt a lot of> the snow pileup. -dz->> --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:> >> > Good morning everyone. Our weather is back up> > into the low 80's for our highs "above normal for> > this time a year. They are saying that it's going to> > be back down into the low 70's for the highs this> > weekend "more normal temps for this time a year".> > But then start going back into the 80's the first of> > next week. I guess I had better get use to the hot> > weather, it looks like from now till October.> >> > Jan I hope things are going well with you, keep> > on giving those Doctors heck. They sure treat you as> > if they are doing you a favor seeing you. When I see> > my PC, I always have to wait & wait before they call> > me back, then wait & wait before he comes into the> > room. One good thing is he does not rush through my> > anointment, listens to my conserns. He wasn't very> > knowageble about Hep C. But did give me a referal to> > my Hep C doctor. My Hep C doctor I set my> > apointment's up two months a head. I get the first> > apointment in the afternoon & only once had to wait> > in thier. I will be praying for you, you will make> > it through the sugery just fine.> >> > Dz, Diane & Dennis are you enjoying the snow? I> > wish I could be back there I would be enjoying the> > snow. It's funny 21 years ago when I left central Mo> > to move out here to get away from the winters. I> > thought I would never miss the winters. For the> > first ten years out here I thought I would stay out> > here forever. But now I'm only staying here because> > of my job & planing on leaving the day after I> > retire & head back to the midwest, but that is 18> > years away from now.> >> > I hope things are going better for you. I> > am keeping you & your family in my prayers.> >> > Hi , How are things going with Greg & his> > wife. Don't worry about him to much sonner & latter> > he will come around & start fighting this.> >> > I know there is others I want to say Hi to but> > this dam TX is working on my mind & am having> > trouble thinking> >> > Praying for all of you> >> > Terry> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------> >

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Glad to hear the side effects are liveable. [ ] (unknown) Good morning everyone one from the sunny southwest. Things are going well, I had my 8th shot last night, with out very bad side affects. I just had a hard time falling to sleep. I tossed & turned in bed till around two this morning, I got up laid down in my Lazy-Boy slept till six. I got up went back to bed & slept till nine foryfive. Getting ready to wash the cars & fill the tanks for another week. I hope everyone is doing well. Hope you all have a good weekend. Terry

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Hi terry

Sleeping was the hardest part for me when I was on the treatment. I couldn't sleep at night, but could always fall asleep when watching tv.

[ ] (unknown)

Good morning everyone one from the sunny southwest. Things are going well, I had my 8th shot last night, with out very bad side affects. I just had a hard time falling to sleep. I tossed & turned in bed till around two this morning, I got up laid down in my Lazy-Boy slept till six. I got up went back to bed & slept till nine foryfive.

Getting ready to wash the cars & fill the tanks for another week. I hope everyone is doing well. Hope you all have a good weekend.

Terry

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The Dilaudid I take for sever pain.. also gives me sever itching...so I

try not to take it too often..Dr doesn't want me to take it more than 2x

weekly anyway..but I always try to go longer!!! I wait til it's absolutely

unbearable-- for a few days or longer then I give in.

arlene

Terry Long wrote:

Jan, He tookme off of the Amitriptyline. He thought that it might be causing

my itching. Told me if I started feeling blue, To call him right away &

he would start me on something eles.

Terry

Jannewilms42@... wrote:

Terry

what did he take you off of?

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