Re: Armour and Glaucoma

[Guest guest]

I adore Chuck with all of his help and wisdon that he knows ,I'm very

grateful and no hugs this time Chuck (grin) (giggling )

And Gracia well she is a hoot ! also thankfull for he List and help with

Armour on getting me going , house is cleaned and baked cookies ,on a role

,here ,feeling pretty good ,just have to get the dogs bathed and will put

thier Tux's on for Christmas ,little rug rats ,

Well said ,

Deborah

Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> If you hang around long enough to get to know Chuck even a little bit

> then you will find that he is about the last person in the world to give

> any kind of " smart @$$ " thoughtless response. Not only is Chuck more of

> the opposite temperament, he is our resident PhD scientist. We value

> him highly here; even those who do not appreciate the scientific method

> DO appreciate Chuck. I saw absolutely nothing in his post poking fun at

> you.

>

> In case you still haven't figured it out what Chuck was saying is that

> the dose of Armour that you're taking is too small to have any

> appreciable benefit.

>

> ly, your resorting to calling someone a moron who was only trying

> to help speaks extremely poorly of you. I hope the impression you have

> managed to give is false; and that you were just having a bad day. For

> most of us to call Chuck a moron would be a little like Homer Simpson

> instructing Einstein on the differences between special and general

> relativity.

>

>

>

>>

>> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>>

>>

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>>

>>

>>

>> Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

>>

>>

<mailto:weirdscientist78@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

>> weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78>

>>

>>

>> Wed Dec 5, 2007 7:15 pm (PST)

>>

>> well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on

>> first impression..

>> and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at that..I

>> don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt

>> getting drunk.

>>

>> venizia1948 <nelsonck@... <mailto:nelsonck%40sbcglobal.net>>

>> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If

>> you have read any of our

>> previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not

>> think there as ever

>> been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help

>> people here........ we

>> all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for.

>>

>> Venizia

>>

>>

>> > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a

>> > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

>> > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of

>> > > a

>> > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

>> > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

>> >

>> > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to

>> get

>> > drunk.

>> >

>> > Chuck

>> >

>> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not to worry ,not going anywere ,just been very very Busy with our new

Grandaughter she will be 3 months old on the 13 th of this month ,

The bad Thing is I start another year of Physotherapy again for my back.leg

etc ,Dr Orders ,darn ,my Leg and Back are still a total mess , still

limping ,I wish I could tke back that day of Aug 31.2006 horrible day ,when

1800 pds landed on me .

Deborah

Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>>

>>

>> > weird Scientist wrote:

>> >>

>> >> hate it when people like you give smart-ass analogies without

>> >> understanding !@#$ about what others go through.

>> >

>> > Let's see if I got this straight. You post that you self diagnosed

>> > yourself as hypothyroid using a saliva test and prescribed 1/2 grain of

>> > Armour. Half a dozen people on this list then respond that your are

>> > probably grossly under dosed. You are surprised that your minuscule

>> > dose

>> > does not relieve your glaucoma, the diagnosis for which is confirmed by

>> > an actual doctor.

>> >

>> > And your response to my analogy is to call ME a moron?

>> >

>> > Chuck

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

PITA???? Okay okay, I guess Imma kid. Also, WS, you need to request an MRI

of your pituitary gland. They need to check for any tumors. My mom had all

the hypo symptoms and the eye problems you do (even dx'd with glaucoma), but

actually it was a pituitary tumor.

-- Re: Armour and Glaucoma

When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

going on.

Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

kids really love it...

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> <hypothyroidism/message/32974

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78@

com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78>

>

>

> Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

>

> so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

>

> about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> .I get a day off...lol

>

> Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> better and

> getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about Christmas.

> Be well!

> CW

[Guest guest]

I think because he said his name was Ashwin. He was referring to me when he

said " HER. "

CW

-- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma

,

I do believe Weird Scientist was referring to " HER " . as in why doesn't

anyone

think Weird Scientist is a female?

Roni

<res075oh@...> wrote:

When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

going on.

Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

kids really love it...

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> <hypothyroidism/message/32974

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78@

com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78>

>

>

> Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

>

> so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

>

> about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> .I get a day off...lol

>

> Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> better and

> getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about Christmas.

> Be well!

> CW

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[Guest guest]

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> happy late birthday to you Venezia, and Chuck too!

Thank you and same to all the boomers. In hexadecimal we're only 4E

years old.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Crystal, I agree with you. I thought he was referring to you. Gosh, I

wish Ashwin would just let us know for sure. Just kidding Ashwin.

Just trying out my sense of humor. I think I'm tired tonight....

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Crystal "

<sweetnwright@...> wrote:

>

> I think because he said his name was Ashwin. He was referring to me

when he

> said " HER. "

> CW

>

> -- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

> ,

> I do believe Weird Scientist was referring to " HER " . as in why doesn't

> anyone

> think Weird Scientist is a female?

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@...> wrote:

> When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

> causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

> type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

> that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

> cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

> can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

> going on.

>

> Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

> kids really love it...

>

>

>

> >

> > Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> > <hypothyroidism/message/32974

>

_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEw

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> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> > <mailto:weirdscientist78@

> com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> > weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78>

> >

> >

> > Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

> >

> > so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

> >

> > about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> > anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> > heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> > .I get a day off...lol

> >

> > Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> > wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> > better and

> > getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about

Christmas.

> > Be well!

> > CW

>

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[Guest guest]

OK I'll take it. I was born 3/1 so I was almost born on leap year day. Then

I would be 15 in 2008.

Gracia

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> happy late birthday to you Venezia, and Chuck too!

Thank you and same to all the boomers. In hexadecimal we're only 4E

years old.

Chuck

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11:59 AM

[Guest guest]

That's interesting. What do people do who were born on Feb 29th?

Roni

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

OK I'll take it. I was born 3/1 so I was almost born on leap year day. Then I

would be 15 in 2008.

Gracia

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> happy late birthday to you Venezia, and Chuck too!

Thank you and same to all the boomers. In hexadecimal we're only 4E

years old.

Chuck

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11:59 AM

[Guest guest]

pita=pain in the a$$

,

Well, you never sound, in your posts, like you are MUCH older than us but you

are. OOPS

sorry! Didn't mean for my fingers to type that. You sound like a

whippersnapper

yourself. A very late happy birthday to you. In a few weeks we can be on time

for you!

Venizia

PS don't want to sound stupid but what does PITA stand for? I'm sure if I

thought about it I

would figure it out.

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thatz the one thing we don't have in our genes...Cancer..BUT.... who knows ...?

did she also have joint pain? (not just in her knees)

WS

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

PITA???? Okay okay, I guess Imma kid. Also, WS, you need to request an MRI

of your pituitary gland. They need to check for any tumors. My mom had all

the hypo symptoms and the eye problems you do (even dx'd with glaucoma), but

actually it was a pituitary tumor.

-- Re: Armour and Glaucoma

When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

going on.

Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

kids really love it...

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> <hypothyroidism/message/32974

_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEw

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78@

com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78>

>

>

> Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

>

> so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

>

> about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> .I get a day off...lol

>

> Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> better and

> getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about Christmas.

> Be well!

> CW

[Guest guest]

For some reason I had thought Weird Scientist was female; I don't know

why and I may be wrong. Corrections welcome.

But I took the reference to " 'her' being spaced out " as wondering if we

all thought another poster might also be spaced out; after someone

suggested WS might be spaced out from illness and/or medication. But I

may be totally wrong on that too. I guess I haven't really followed

some of it too closely. I kind of get turned off when the name calling

starts...

Just for clarity, is Weird Scientist male or female???

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

<hypothyroidism/message/32984;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMnU2YWJ\

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Dec 8, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

>

> ,

> I do believe Weird Scientist was referring to " HER " . as in why doesn't

> anyone

> think Weird Scientist is a female?

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

> causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

> type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

> that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

> cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

> can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

> going on.

>

> Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

> kids really love it...

>

>

>

> >

> > Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> >

>

<hypothyroidism/message/32974;_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ\

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>

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> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>

> > <mailto:weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> 3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> > weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78

> <weirdscientist78>>

> >

> >

> > Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

> >

> > so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

> >

> > about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> > anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> > heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> > .I get a day off...lol

> >

> > Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>

> <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> > wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> > better and

> > getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about

> Christmas.

> > Be well!

> > CW

[Guest guest]

I think Weird Scientist should answer that.

I got upset with the name calling too.

Roni

<res075oh@...> wrote:

For some reason I had thought Weird Scientist was female; I don't know

why and I may be wrong. Corrections welcome.

But I took the reference to " 'her' being spaced out " as wondering if we

all thought another poster might also be spaced out; after someone

suggested WS might be spaced out from illness and/or medication. But I

may be totally wrong on that too. I guess I haven't really followed

some of it too closely. I kind of get turned off when the name calling

starts...

Just for clarity, is Weird Scientist male or female???

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

<hypothyroidism/message/32984;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMnU2YWJ\

oBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI5ODQEc2V\

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Dec 8, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

>

> ,

> I do believe Weird Scientist was referring to " HER " . as in why doesn't

> anyone

> think Weird Scientist is a female?

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

> causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

> type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

> that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

> cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

> can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

> going on.

>

> Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

> kids really love it...

>

>

>

> >

> > Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> >

>

<hypothyroidism/message/32974;_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ\

0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI5NzQEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzEwOTAwOA--

>

<hypothyroidism/message/32974;_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ\

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jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzEwOTAwOA-->>

> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>

> > <mailto:weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> 3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> > weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78

> <weirdscientist78>>

> >

> >

> > Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

> >

> > so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

> >

> > about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> > anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> > heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> > .I get a day off...lol

> >

> > Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>

> <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> > wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> > better and

> > getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about

> Christmas.

> > Be well!

> > CW

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[Guest guest]

Well, I'm going through my second childhood the third time! [ggg] A man

is only as old as the women he feels {don't tell my wife I said that! [ggg]}

PITA means Pain In The @$$.

Grandfather of the " Over The Hills " gang...

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " venizia1948 " nelsonck@...

>

<mailto:nelsonck@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> venizia1948 <venizia1948>

>

>

> Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:08 pm (PST)

>

> ,

>

> Well, you never sound, in your posts, like you are MUCH older than us

> but you are. OOPS

> sorry! Didn't mean for my fingers to type that. You sound like a

> whippersnapper

> yourself. A very late happy birthday to you. In a few weeks we can be

> on time for you!

>

> Venizia

> PS don't want to sound stupid but what does PITA stand for? I'm sure

> if I thought about it I

> would figure it out.

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > >... now you can figure out out old I am!

> > > >

> > > > I don't need to figure. All the events of that year are on my coffee

> > > mug.

> > > >

> > > > Chuck

[Guest guest]

I see two logical possibilities: One, they were born the last day of

February, so the last day of February could be their birthday. Two,

they were born the day after Feb. 28, which would be Feb. 29 on leap

years and March 1 all other years.

Take your choice. Sorry, only one per customer...

There is a third choice, with results the same as the second choice:

They were born the 60th day of the year; so celebrate as in number two

above.

> .

>

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

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jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzE5NjcwNQ-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Dec 8, 2007 8:52 pm (PST)

>

> That's interesting. What do people do who were born on Feb 29th?

> Roni

>

> Gracia <circe@... <mailto:circe%40gwi.net>> wrote:

>

> OK I'll take it. I was born 3/1 so I was almost born on leap year day.

> Then I would be 15 in 2008.

> Gracia

[Guest guest]

I don't remember who set this up (used to know), but I think it would have been

better to

add minutes to each day to account for the 24 hours extra.

365/24=15.21minutes. That

way there would be no extra day where someones birthday could get lost or

bandied

about.

Roni

<res075oh@...> wrote:

I see two logical possibilities: One, they were born the last day of

February, so the last day of February could be their birthday. Two,

they were born the day after Feb. 28, which would be Feb. 29 on leap

years and March 1 all other years.

Take your choice. Sorry, only one per customer...

There is a third choice, with results the same as the second choice:

They were born the 60th day of the year; so celebrate as in number two

above.

> .

>

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

<hypothyroidism/message/33000;_ylc=X3oDMTJxaG1zNXB\

yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMwMDAEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzE5NjcwNQ-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Dec 8, 2007 8:52 pm (PST)

>

> That's interesting. What do people do who were born on Feb 29th?

> Roni

>

> Gracia <circe@... <mailto:circe%40gwi.net>> wrote:

>

> OK I'll take it. I was born 3/1 so I was almost born on leap year day.

> Then I would be 15 in 2008.

> Gracia

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yes I was referring to the lady that got severely emotional and threatened to

leave the group....she did sound like she was spaced out..

I am MALE..perhaps I should upload a picture of my genitalia in the Files

section?...lol

<res075oh@...> wrote: For some

reason I had thought Weird Scientist was female; I don't know

why and I may be wrong. Corrections welcome.

But I took the reference to " 'her' being spaced out " as wondering if we

all thought another poster might also be spaced out; after someone

suggested WS might be spaced out from illness and/or medication. But I

may be totally wrong on that too. I guess I haven't really followed

some of it too closely. I kind of get turned off when the name calling

starts...

Just for clarity, is Weird Scientist male or female???

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

<hypothyroidism/message/32984;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMnU2YWJ\

oBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI5ODQEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzE5NjcwNQ-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Dec 8, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

>

> ,

> I do believe Weird Scientist was referring to " HER " . as in why doesn't

> anyone

> think Weird Scientist is a female?

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

> causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

> type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

> that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

> cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

> can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

> going on.

>

> Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

> kids really love it...

>

>

>

> >

> > Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> >

>

<hypothyroidism/message/32974;_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ\

0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI5NzQEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzEwOTAwOA--

>

<hypothyroidism/message/32974;_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ\

0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI5NzQEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzEwOTAwOA-->>

> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>

> > <mailto:weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> 3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> > weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78

> <weirdscientist78>>

> >

> >

> > Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

> >

> > so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

> >

> > about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> > anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> > heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> > .I get a day off...lol

> >

> > Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>

> <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> > wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> > better and

> > getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about

> Christmas.

> > Be well!

> > CW

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[Guest guest]

She didn't have cancer it was a benign pituitary tumor. SHe had aches

everywhere. She was dx'd with RLS for this " Joint pain. " It took several

years for a correct DX.

-- Re: Armour and Glaucoma

When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

going on.

Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

kids really love it...

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> <hypothyroidism/message/32974

_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEw

DIEbXNnSWQDMzI5NzQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzEwOTAwOA-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78@

com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78>

>

>

> Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

>

> so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

>

> about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> .I get a day off...lol

>

> Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> better and

> getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about Christmas.

> Be well!

> CW

[Guest guest]

I vote male.

-- Re: Armour and Glaucoma

For some reason I had thought Weird Scientist was female; I don't know

why and I may be wrong. Corrections welcome.

But I took the reference to " 'her' being spaced out " as wondering if we

all thought another poster might also be spaced out; after someone

suggested WS might be spaced out from illness and/or medication. But I

may be totally wrong on that too. I guess I haven't really followed

some of it too closely. I kind of get turned off when the name calling

starts...

Just for clarity, is Weird Scientist male or female???

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> <hypothyroidism/message/32984

_ylc=X3oDMTJxMnU2YWJoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEw

DIEbXNnSWQDMzI5ODQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzE5NjcwNQ-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Dec 8, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

>

> ,

> I do believe Weird Scientist was referring to " HER " . as in why doesn't

> anyone

> think Weird Scientist is a female?

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

> causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

> type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

> that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

> cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

> can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

> going on.

>

> Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

> kids really love it...

>

>

>

> >

> > Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> >

> <hypothyroidism/message/32974

_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEw

DIEbXNnSWQDMzI5NzQEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzEwOTAwOA--

> <hypothyroidism/message/32974

_ylc=X3oDMTJxY3NmaDZ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEw

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> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>

> > <mailto:weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> 3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> > weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78

> <weirdscientist78>>

> >

> >

> > Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

> >

> > so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

> >

> > about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> > anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> > heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> > .I get a day off...lol

> >

> > Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>

> <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> > wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> > better and

> > getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about

> Christmas.

> > Be well!

> > CW

[Guest guest]

That wouldn't work, as the length of the year is not an exact number of

days. See this quote from Science Fact Finder:

" A year is the time it takes for the Earth to complete one revolution

around the sun. Specifically, this period is 365.242199 days (365 days,

5 hours, 48 minutes, 46 seconds). The fact that a year is not comprised

of a whole number of days has posed challenges to calendar-makers

throughout the millennia. For instance, the ancient Egyptians, Romans,

and Greeks used calendars with 365 days. This calendar, however, was off

by an entire day approximately every four years.

A big improvement was made with the n calendar, crafted by Julius

Caesar (100-44 B.C.) in 46 B.C. The n calendar, which was 365.25

days long, inserted an extra day, or " leap day, " every fourth year. Even

with that adjustment, the n calendar was off by 11 minutes and 14

seconds per year. By the mid-1500s that error had accumulated so that

the n calendar was 10 days ahead of the Earth's... "

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

<hypothyroidism/message/33009;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZm0xN2M\

2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMwMDkEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzIzNjEyMw-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sun Dec 9, 2007 9:48 am (PST)

>

> I don't remember who set this up (used to know), but I think it would

> have been better to

> add minutes to each day to account for the 24 hours extra.

> 365/24=15.21minutes

> . That

> way there would be no extra day where someones birthday could get lost

> or bandied

> about.

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> I see two logical possibilities: One, they were born the last day of

> February, so the last day of February could be their birthday. Two,

> they were born the day after Feb. 28, which would be Feb. 29 on leap

> years and March 1 all other years.

>

> Take your choice. Sorry, only one per customer...

>

> There is a third choice, with results the same as the second choice:

> They were born the 60th day of the year; so celebrate as in number two

> above.

>

>

[Guest guest]

O.K. I'll accept all that info. However, in this age of super computers I would

think that the problem could be solved in a more equitable manner, making

the days even. Just MHO (hopo).

Roni

<res075oh@...> wrote:

That wouldn't work, as the length of the year is not an exact number

of

days. See this quote from Science Fact Finder:

" A year is the time it takes for the Earth to complete one revolution

around the sun. Specifically, this period is 365.242199 days (365 days,

5 hours, 48 minutes, 46 seconds). The fact that a year is not comprised

of a whole number of days has posed challenges to calendar-makers

throughout the millennia. For instance, the ancient Egyptians, Romans,

and Greeks used calendars with 365 days. This calendar, however, was off

by an entire day approximately every four years.

A big improvement was made with the n calendar, crafted by Julius

Caesar (100-44 B.C.) in 46 B.C. The n calendar, which was 365.25

days long, inserted an extra day, or " leap day, " every fourth year. Even

with that adjustment, the n calendar was off by 11 minutes and 14

seconds per year. By the mid-1500s that error had accumulated so that

the n calendar was 10 days ahead of the Earth's... "

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

<hypothyroidism/message/33009;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZm0xN2M\

2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMwMDkEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzIzNjEyMw-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sun Dec 9, 2007 9:48 am (PST)

>

> I don't remember who set this up (used to know), but I think it would

> have been better to

> add minutes to each day to account for the 24 hours extra.

> 365/24=15.21minutes

> . That

> way there would be no extra day where someones birthday could get lost

> or bandied

> about.

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> I see two logical possibilities: One, they were born the last day of

> February, so the last day of February could be their birthday. Two,

> they were born the day after Feb. 28, which would be Feb. 29 on leap

> years and March 1 all other years.

>

> Take your choice. Sorry, only one per customer...

>

> There is a third choice, with results the same as the second choice:

> They were born the 60th day of the year; so celebrate as in number two

> above.

>

>

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You could, at least to a very close approximation in numbers. However,

to do so you would have to change the length of the units of time; and

that would create a lot more problems than it would solve.

And even then it would not be accurate, because the exact time of day

that marks the passage of a year changes every year by over 5 hours and

48 minutes. It's a bit more complicated than it looks.

In addition, over time the rotational velocity of the Earth slows down;

and the length of the year increases a minuscule quantity. I think...

In a few billion years the Earth will be tidally locked to the Sun, and

will always have the same side turned toward the Sun, just as the same

side of the Moon is always turned toward Earth.

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

<hypothyroidism/message/33064;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMTY0OWQ\

4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMwNjQEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzI2NDU5NQ-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sun Dec 9, 2007 5:57 pm (PST)

>

> O.K. I'll accept all that info. However, in this age of super

> computers I would

> think that the problem could be solved in a more equitable manner, making

> the days even. Just MHO (hopo).

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> That wouldn't work, as the length of the year is not an exact number of

> days. See this quote from Science Fact Finder:

>

> " A year is the time it takes for the Earth to complete one revolution

> around the sun. Specifically, this period is 365.242199 days (365 days,

> 5 hours, 48 minutes, 46 seconds). The fact that a year is not comprised

> of a whole number of days has posed challenges to calendar-makers

> throughout the millennia. For instance, the ancient Egyptians, Romans,

> and Greeks used calendars with 365 days. This calendar, however, was off

> by an entire day approximately every four years.

>

> A big improvement was made with the n calendar, crafted by Julius

> Caesar (100-44 B.C.) in 46 B.C. The n calendar, which was 365.25

> days long, inserted an extra day, or " leap day, " every fourth year. Even

> with that adjustment, the n calendar was off by 11 minutes and 14

> seconds per year. By the mid-1500s that error had accumulated so that

> the n calendar was 10 days ahead of the Earth's... "

>

>

>

> > Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> >

>

<hypothyroidism/message/33009;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZm0xN2M\

2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMwMDkEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzIzNjEyMw--

>

<hypothyroidism/message/33009;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZm0xN2M\

2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMwMDkEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzIzNjEyMw-->>

> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam%40>

> > <mailto:matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> 3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> > matchermaam <matchermaam

> <matchermaam>>

> >

> >

> > Sun Dec 9, 2007 9:48 am (PST)

> >

> > I don't remember who set this up (used to know), but I think it would

> > have been better to

> > add minutes to each day to account for the 24 hours extra.

> > 365/24=15.21minutes

> > . That

> > way there would be no extra day where someones birthday could get lost

> > or bandied

> > about.

> >

> > Roni

[Guest guest]

That doesn't sound like it would be very comfortable. One side day and sone side

night. I hope the speed of transportation increases, so we could run back and

forth

LOL.

Roni

<res075oh@...> wrote:

You could, at least to a very close approximation in numbers. However,

to do so you would have to change the length of the units of time; and

that would create a lot more problems than it would solve.

And even then it would not be accurate, because the exact time of day

that marks the passage of a year changes every year by over 5 hours and

48 minutes. It's a bit more complicated than it looks.

In addition, over time the rotational velocity of the Earth slows down;

and the length of the year increases a minuscule quantity. I think...

In a few billion years the Earth will be tidally locked to the Sun, and

will always have the same side turned toward the Sun, just as the same

side of the Moon is always turned toward Earth.

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

<hypothyroidism/message/33064;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMTY0OWQ\

4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMwNjQEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzI2NDU5NQ-->

>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sun Dec 9, 2007 5:57 pm (PST)

>

> O.K. I'll accept all that info. However, in this age of super

> computers I would

> think that the problem could be solved in a more equitable manner, making

> the days even. Just MHO (hopo).

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> That wouldn't work, as the length of the year is not an exact number of

> days. See this quote from Science Fact Finder:

>

> " A year is the time it takes for the Earth to complete one revolution

> around the sun. Specifically, this period is 365.242199 days (365 days,

> 5 hours, 48 minutes, 46 seconds). The fact that a year is not comprised

> of a whole number of days has posed challenges to calendar-makers

> throughout the millennia. For instance, the ancient Egyptians, Romans,

> and Greeks used calendars with 365 days. This calendar, however, was off

> by an entire day approximately every four years.

>

> A big improvement was made with the n calendar, crafted by Julius

> Caesar (100-44 B.C.) in 46 B.C. The n calendar, which was 365.25

> days long, inserted an extra day, or " leap day, " every fourth year. Even

> with that adjustment, the n calendar was off by 11 minutes and 14

> seconds per year. By the mid-1500s that error had accumulated so that

> the n calendar was 10 days ahead of the Earth's... "

>

>

>

> > Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> >

>

<hypothyroidism/message/33009;_ylc=X3oDMTJxZm0xN2M\

2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzMwMDkEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzIzNjEyMw--

>

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> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam%40>

> > <mailto:matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> 3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> > matchermaam <matchermaam

> <matchermaam>>

> >

> >

> > Sun Dec 9, 2007 9:48 am (PST)

> >

> > I don't remember who set this up (used to know), but I think it would

> > have been better to

> > add minutes to each day to account for the 24 hours extra.

> > 365/24=15.21minutes

> > . That

> > way there would be no extra day where someones birthday could get lost

> > or bandied

> > about.

> >

> > Roni

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Weirs Scientist, I just wanted you to know that I never thought you were female.

Women argue differently. I was a counselor for many years.

Roni

yes I was referring to the lady that got severely emotional and

threatened to leave the group....she did sound like she was spaced out..

I am MALE..perhaps I should upload a picture of my genitalia in the Files

section?...lol

<res075oh@...> wrote: For some reason I had thought Weird

Scientist was female; I don't know

why and I may be wrong. Corrections welcome.

But I took the reference to " 'her' being spaced out " as wondering if we

all thought another poster might also be spaced out; after someone

suggested WS might be spaced out from illness and/or medication. But I

may be totally wrong on that too. I guess I haven't really followed

some of it too closely. I kind of get turned off when the name calling

starts...

Just for clarity, is Weird Scientist male or female???

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

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>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sat Dec 8, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

>

> ,

> I do believe Weird Scientist was referring to " HER " . as in why doesn't

> anyone

> think Weird Scientist is a female?

>

> Roni

>

> <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> wrote:

> When someone here is " spaced out " I suspect it's seldom the medication

> causing it; except possibly when the medication is too low or the wrong

> type. Hypothyroidism is just one of a number of conditions we can have

> that involve some kind of hormone difficulty. And hormone problems can

> cause _many_ different kinds or reactions. Many of them interact, so it

> can be really impossible sometimes to try to figure out exactly what is

> going on.

>

> Personally, Christmas is more of a PITA than anything else. But the

> kids really love it...

>

>

>

> >

> > Re: Armour and Glaucoma

> >

>

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> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>

> > <mailto:weirdscientist78@...

> <mailto:weirdscientist78%40>?Subject=%20Re%

> 3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma>

> > weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78

> <weirdscientist78>>

> >

> >

> > Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:54 pm (PST)

> >

> > so nobody here thinks the meds are spacing HER out?..

> >

> > about the Christmas comment...oh man!!!!.. I don't wanna offend

> > anybody else in the group..I already look like the Grinch...and

> > heyyyyy I do care about Christmas...

> > .I get a day off...lol

> >

> > Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>

> <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> > wrote: I hope you don't leave the list and I hope you are feeling

> > better and

> > getting your meds back on track. I highly doubt WS cares about

> Christmas.

> > Be well!

> > CW

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[Guest guest]

weird Scientist,

This response just arrived. Evidently is scrambling deliveries.

You wrote:

>

>

> well..I thought we were treating based on symptoms...not just based on

> the labs...and Armour does do me a lotta good...for instance, me typing

> away like this was an impossibility 2 weeks ago (which is when I started

> 1/2 grain)...

Well then, what of your symptoms caused you to draw conclusions

completely contradictory to your saliva tests?

You have chosen to self prescribe some serious medication in

contradiction to tests, albeit questionable tests, even though that

medication might leave you permanently blind. That fact alone makes me

wonder whether you would really accept advice from this list. I can see

that my remark, to which you reacted so emotionally, was probably

incorrect. Even your incredibly low dosage is probably not justified,

whether you think it is causing a benefit or not.

Treating based on symptoms means that your symptoms can be used as an

additional source of information once you have a clear diagnosis. If you

don't know with certainty that the cause is your thyroid, then symptoms

are just symptoms. All sorts of things cause similar symptoms. You need

to have some confidence that your symptoms are reliable indicators of

thyroid status. Even then, most doctors take patient reports with a

grain of salt, since most people are quite suggestible and subject to

placebo effects. Blood tests are not.

I would think that glaucoma is a sufficiently serious threat that you

would not want to risk a direct threat to your vision over unreliable

tests and symptoms that could be anything.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

PLEASE ChucK please. blood test never Dxed me. I stayed very ill for 30

years. There are all kinds of reason why TSH is a crappy test. Peeps with

fibro and CFS always have " normal " tests, but they can be cured with enough

Armour, cortef and iodine.

Gracia

weird Scientist,

This response just arrived. Evidently is scrambling deliveries.

You wrote:

>

>

> well..I thought we were treating based on symptoms...not just based on

> the labs...and Armour does do me a lotta good...for instance, me typing

> away like this was an impossibility 2 weeks ago (which is when I started

> 1/2 grain)...

Well then, what of your symptoms caused you to draw conclusions

completely contradictory to your saliva tests?

You have chosen to self prescribe some serious medication in

contradiction to tests, albeit questionable tests, even though that

medication might leave you permanently blind. That fact alone makes me

wonder whether you would really accept advice from this list. I can see

that my remark, to which you reacted so emotionally, was probably

incorrect. Even your incredibly low dosage is probably not justified,

whether you think it is causing a benefit or not.

Treating based on symptoms means that your symptoms can be used as an

additional source of information once you have a clear diagnosis. If you

don't know with certainty that the cause is your thyroid, then symptoms

are just symptoms. All sorts of things cause similar symptoms. You need

to have some confidence that your symptoms are reliable indicators of

thyroid status. Even then, most doctors take patient reports with a

grain of salt, since most people are quite suggestible and subject to

placebo effects. Blood tests are not.

I would think that glaucoma is a sufficiently serious threat that you

would not want to risk a direct threat to your vision over unreliable

tests and symptoms that could be anything.

Chuck