Re: Armour and Glaucoma

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I found some information about glaucoma, and maybe it will help.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/glaucoma_overview/article_em.htm

weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78@...> wrote:

I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were

the steps I took toward

achieving it :

1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech.

2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to

HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I

was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour(

from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see

an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried

that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the

tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been

high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for

Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the

meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a

day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).

Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes)

he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time

was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so

nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a

hard time sleeping.

anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted

to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a

week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really

unbearable.

I really dont know how to handle this.

Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

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I can help you.

you are being very good and thorough but too cautious.

you need to get on a good dose of Armour ASAP. It relaxes smooth muscles and

lowers pressure. Don't forget DHEA and enough iodine.

Gracia

I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were

the steps I took toward

achieving it :

1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech.

2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to

HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I

was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour(

from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see

an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried

that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the

tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been

high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for

Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the

meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a

day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).

Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes)

he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time

was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so

nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a

hard time sleeping.

anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted

to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a

week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really

unbearable.

I really dont know how to handle this.

Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Did you ask your eye doctor about this? Have you researched it online,

looking for message boards and stuff? Perhaps you just don't tolerate armour

well

and could try something else? Wish I could be more helpful.

Take care,

In a message dated 12/4/07 10:23:17 PM, weirdscientist78@... writes:

>

> I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were

> the steps I took toward

> achieving it :

> 1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech.

> 2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to

> HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I

> was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour(

> from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see

> an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried

> that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the

> tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been

> high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for

> Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the

> meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a

> day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).

>

> Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes)

> he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time

> was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so

> nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a

> hard time sleeping.

>

> anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted

> to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a

> week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really

> unbearable.

>

> I really dont know how to handle this.

>

> Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

>

>

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am neither on DHEA nor Iodine...am li'l bit paranoid abt DHEA since it can cause

both estrogen and testosterone levels to go up....unless I get an estrogen

blocker..

I am also on 15 mg HC.

do you think I just have to wait and see?

WS

Re: Armour and Glaucoma

I can help you.

you are being very good and thorough but too cautious.

you need to get on a good dose of Armour ASAP. It relaxes smooth muscles and

lowers pressure. Don't forget DHEA and enough iodine.

Gracia

I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were

the steps I took toward

achieving it :

1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech.

2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to

HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I

was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour(

from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see

an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried

that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the

tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been

high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for

Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the

meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a

day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).

Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes)

he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time

was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so

nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a

hard time sleeping.

anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted

to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a

week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really

unbearable.

I really dont know how to handle this.

Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

it is recommended to take DHEA with cortef---try 7-keto DHEA 50mg. I buy NOW

brand b/c it is cheap.

Please take cortef 5mg FOUR times a

day---(20mg)breakfast/lunch/dinner/bedtime. It will work better that way.

Iodine is sooooooooo important. You can feel better today if you give

yourself what your body needs. there is no reason to wait until the twelfth of

never.

Gracia

am neither on DHEA nor Iodine...am li'l bit paranoid abt DHEA since it can

cause both estrogen and testosterone levels to go up....unless I get an estrogen

blocker..

I am also on 15 mg HC.

do you think I just have to wait and see?

WS

Re: Armour and Glaucoma

I can help you.

you are being very good and thorough but too cautious.

you need to get on a good dose of Armour ASAP. It relaxes smooth muscles and

lowers pressure. Don't forget DHEA and enough iodine.

Gracia

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truly appreciate the concern.

I won't say that I don't tolerate it at all.....makes my joints feel

better...makes a li'l more pro-active...maybe itz the HC....but I think it is

the Armour...either way it does do a lotta good...itz not balanced right I

think.

thanks again

WS

Re: Armour and Glaucoma

Did you ask your eye doctor about this? Have you researched it

online,

looking for message boards and stuff? Perhaps you just don't tolerate armour

well

and could try something else? Wish I could be more helpful.

Take care,

In a message dated 12/4/07 10:23:17 PM, weirdscientist78 writes:

>

> I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were

> the steps I took toward

> achieving it :

> 1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech.

> 2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to

> HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I

> was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour(

> from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see

> an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried

> that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the

> tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been

> high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for

> Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the

> meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a

> day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).

>

> Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes)

> he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time

> was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so

> nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a

> hard time sleeping.

>

> anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted

> to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a

> week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really

> unbearable.

>

> I really dont know how to handle this.

>

> Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

>

>

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weirdscientist78 wrote:

> ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

drunk.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

exactly my point moron!!!!!!!!! and I did get drunk....

Ashwin

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

weirdscientist78 wrote:

> ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

drunk.

Chuck

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hate it when people like you give smart-ass analogies without understanding !@#$

about what others go through.

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

weirdscientist78 wrote:

> ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

drunk.

Chuck

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Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If you have read any

of our

previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think

there as ever

been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people

here........ we

all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for.

Venizia

> > ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

>

> 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

> drunk.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

>

>

>

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well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on first

impression..and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at

that..I don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt getting

drunk.

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Oh my

gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our

previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think

there as ever

been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people

here........ we

all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for.

Venizia

> > ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

>

> 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

> drunk.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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now.

>

>

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weird Scientist wrote:

>

> hate it when people like you give smart-ass analogies without

> understanding !@#$ about what others go through.

Let's see if I got this straight. You post that you self diagnosed

yourself as hypothyroid using a saliva test and prescribed 1/2 grain of

Armour. Half a dozen people on this list then respond that your are

probably grossly under dosed. You are surprised that your minuscule dose

does not relieve your glaucoma, the diagnosis for which is confirmed by

an actual doctor.

And your response to my analogy is to call ME a moron?

Chuck

[Guest guest]

He wasn't commenting on you getting drunk, he was making an analogy. Maybe

his illustration was beyond you, or maybe you are just touchy because it hit

home. In any event you had no right to do what you did. It was rude and crass.

Roni

weird Scientist <weirdscientist78@...> wrote:

well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on

first impression..and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at

that..I don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt getting

drunk.

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked

that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our

previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think there

as ever

been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people

here........ we

all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for.

Venizia

> > ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

>

> 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

> drunk.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

>

>

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Roni and Venizia,

Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with

someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very

accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there,

right? I'll live.

Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially

no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't

help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described.

However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT,

which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you

feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of

all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

the post was about Armour, glaucoma and intraocular pressure..there were people

who didn't have much to say...but at the very least sympathized or posted what

they could find on the internet...thatz how you offer your help.... not by

saying un-necessary stuff...I don;t care who he is or what he has done so

far...what he said was RUDE...if anything he should be apologizing.

Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: He

wasn't commenting on you getting drunk, he was making an analogy. Maybe

his illustration was beyond you, or maybe you are just touchy because it hit

home. In any event you had no right to do what you did. It was rude and

crass.

Roni

weird Scientist <weirdscientist78@...> wrote:

well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on

first impression..and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at

that..I don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt getting

drunk.

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked

that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our

previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think

there as ever

been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people

here........ we

all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for.

Venizia

> > ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

>

> 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

> drunk.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

>

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I think you are being overly sensitive. We also have a sense of humor in this

group.....we

need to have a sense of humor with this disease. Chuck also does not know you,

so you

should not have taken it so personally. He was not being derogatory toward you

but I am

sure Chuck will tell you himself.......

Venizia

> > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

> >

> > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

> > drunk.

> >

> > Chuck

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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> >

> >

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that was a lot better...THANK YOU Chuck.

yes but the problem is it is making me feel better too at the same time...my

joints feel ecstatic...my energy levels are far higher than they were...don't

feel as cold as I felt 2 weeks ago...I am typing way faster than i was a month

ago...also, added to my problems Xalatan(glaucoma meds) has problems of itz

own...blurry vision...severely dry eyes...and Armour seems to exacerbate the

problem (atleast in my case).

which is why it is very confusing.

thank you.

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Roni and

Venizia,

Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with

someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very

accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there,

right? I'll live.

Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially

no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't

help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described.

However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT,

which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you

feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of

all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking.

Chuck

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Whew, I'm glad that's over! Let's not go there again. WS, we love Chuck

around here and if her ever offends you again just tell yourself its the

synthroid and move on:)

I find it so funny that a med that is suppose to help your eyes give you

side effects that makes eyes worse. Oh no its not funny just modern

medicine. Oh here is an article that is unrelated.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews

aspx?type=healthNews & storyid=2007-12-03T215021Z_01_WRI378511_RTRUKOC_0_US-HON

Y-EASES-NIGHTTIME-COUGH.xml

-- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma

that was a lot better...THANK YOU Chuck.

yes but the problem is it is making me feel better too at the same time...my

joints feel ecstatic...my energy levels are far higher than they were...don

t feel as cold as I felt 2 weeks ago...I am typing way faster than i was a

month ago...also, added to my problems Xalatan(glaucoma meds) has problems

of itz own...blurry vision...severely dry eyes...and Armour seems to

exacerbate the problem (atleast in my case).

which is why it is very confusing.

thank you.

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Roni and Venizia,

Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with

someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very

accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there,

right? I'll live.

Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially

no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't

help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described.

However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT,

which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you

feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of

all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking.

Chuck

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Well Weird Scientist, that is much better. Would you like to reintroduce

yourself and start

over? Welcome to our group.

Venizia

Roni and Venizia,

>

> Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with

> someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very

> accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there,

> right? I'll live.

>

> Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially

> no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't

> help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described.

> However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT,

> which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you

> feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of

> all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

>

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I thought it was a great comment and even surprised me a little! I wonder

how you could interpret it as having anything to do with you????

silly

Gracia

well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on first

impression..and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at

that..I don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt getting

drunk.

venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked

that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our

previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think

there as ever

been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people

here........ we

all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for.

Venizia

> > ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

>

> 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get

> drunk.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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now.

>

>

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Your assessment makes perfect sense to me.. With all the illness we deal

with we need to keep two things straight, information, support and laughter.

(that was 3)

I guess, but anyway that's what we need to beat these things.

Roni

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

Roni and Venizia,

Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with

someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very

accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there,

right? I'll live.

Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially

no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't

help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described.

However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT,

which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you

feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of

all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

No need to thank me. It was so shocking to me to read that. I just had to

speak my mind.

Besides eveything I said about you was true. You have been an asset to this

group. You

are probably correct in that being ill can make people do things they might

normally not

do. Anyway, you are entirely welcome.

Venizia

>

> Roni and Venizia,

>

> Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with

> someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very

> accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there,

> right? I'll live.

>

> Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially

> no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't

> help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described.

> However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT,

> which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you

> feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of

> all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

If you hang around long enough to get to know Chuck even a little bit

then you will find that he is about the last person in the world to give

any kind of " smart @$$ " thoughtless response. Not only is Chuck more of

the opposite temperament, he is our resident PhD scientist. We value

him highly here; even those who do not appreciate the scientific method

DO appreciate Chuck. I saw absolutely nothing in his post poking fun at

you.

In case you still haven't figured it out what Chuck was saying is that

the dose of Armour that you're taking is too small to have any

appreciable benefit.

ly, your resorting to calling someone a moron who was only trying

to help speaks extremely poorly of you. I hope the impression you have

managed to give is false; and that you were just having a bad day. For

most of us to call Chuck a moron would be a little like Homer Simpson

instructing Einstein on the differences between special and general

relativity.

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

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> Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@...

>

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> weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78>

>

>

> Wed Dec 5, 2007 7:15 pm (PST)

>

> well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on

> first impression..

> and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at that..I

> don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt

> getting drunk.

>

> venizia1948 <nelsonck@... <mailto:nelsonck%40sbcglobal.net>>

> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If

> you have read any of our

> previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not

> think there as ever

> been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help

> people here........ we

> all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for.

>

> Venizia

>

>

> > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a

> > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes

> > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a

> > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking

> > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights)....

> >

> > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to

> get

> > drunk.

> >

> > Chuck

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

weird Scientist wrote:

> ..blurry

> vision...severely dry eyes...and Armour seems to exacerbate the problem

> (atleast in my case).

Those are classic hypoT symptoms. You are simply not getting nearly

enough Armour.

Proper dosing requires fine tuning. Until you get close to an optimum

dose, you will still feel so bad you may not be able to tell which way

is up. You also never told us what your test results indicated.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

venizia,

You are much too kind.

We also need to make some allowance for the medium. Without body

language and tone, the casually written word can often be

misinterpreted. On one of my first forays into discussion lists, I made

a brief comment about a vestigial part of our brains, which a normally

kind old gentleman interpreted as referring to another body part and

proceeded to verbally chastise me for posting obscenity. He never

responded to my anatomical explanation, let alone apologize. It goes

with the territory.

Chuck

P.S. 1948 was a very good year!

>

>

> No need to thank me. It was so shocking to me to read that. I just had

> to speak my mind.

> Besides eveything I said about you was true. You have been an asset to

> this group. You

> are probably correct in that being ill can make people do things they

> might normally not

> do. Anyway, you are entirely welcome.

>

> Venizia

>

>

> >

> > Roni and Venizia,

> >

> > Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with

> > someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very

> > accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there,

> > right? I'll live.

> >

> > Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially

> > no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't

> > help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described.

> > However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT,

> > which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you

> > feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of

> > all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking.

> >

> > Chuck

> >

>

>

>

>

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