Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 I found some information about glaucoma, and maybe it will help. http://www.emedicinehealth.com/glaucoma_overview/article_em.htm weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78@...> wrote: I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were the steps I took toward achieving it : 1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech. 2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour( from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking behind the retina with a lotta bright lights). Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes) he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a hard time sleeping. anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really unbearable. I really dont know how to handle this. Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 I can help you. you are being very good and thorough but too cautious. you need to get on a good dose of Armour ASAP. It relaxes smooth muscles and lowers pressure. Don't forget DHEA and enough iodine. Gracia I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were the steps I took toward achieving it : 1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech. 2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour( from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking behind the retina with a lotta bright lights). Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes) he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a hard time sleeping. anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really unbearable. I really dont know how to handle this. Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Did you ask your eye doctor about this? Have you researched it online, looking for message boards and stuff? Perhaps you just don't tolerate armour well and could try something else? Wish I could be more helpful. Take care, In a message dated 12/4/07 10:23:17 PM, weirdscientist78@... writes: > > I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were > the steps I took toward > achieving it : > 1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech. > 2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to > HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I > was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour( > from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see > an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried > that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the > tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been > high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for > Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the > meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights). > > Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes) > he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time > was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so > nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a > hard time sleeping. > > anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted > to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a > week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really > unbearable. > > I really dont know how to handle this. > > Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! > > ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 am neither on DHEA nor Iodine...am li'l bit paranoid abt DHEA since it can cause both estrogen and testosterone levels to go up....unless I get an estrogen blocker.. I am also on 15 mg HC. do you think I just have to wait and see? WS Re: Armour and Glaucoma I can help you. you are being very good and thorough but too cautious. you need to get on a good dose of Armour ASAP. It relaxes smooth muscles and lowers pressure. Don't forget DHEA and enough iodine. Gracia I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were the steps I took toward achieving it : 1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech. 2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour( from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking behind the retina with a lotta bright lights). Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes) he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a hard time sleeping. anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really unbearable. I really dont know how to handle this. Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 it is recommended to take DHEA with cortef---try 7-keto DHEA 50mg. I buy NOW brand b/c it is cheap. Please take cortef 5mg FOUR times a day---(20mg)breakfast/lunch/dinner/bedtime. It will work better that way. Iodine is sooooooooo important. You can feel better today if you give yourself what your body needs. there is no reason to wait until the twelfth of never. Gracia am neither on DHEA nor Iodine...am li'l bit paranoid abt DHEA since it can cause both estrogen and testosterone levels to go up....unless I get an estrogen blocker.. I am also on 15 mg HC. do you think I just have to wait and see? WS Re: Armour and Glaucoma I can help you. you are being very good and thorough but too cautious. you need to get on a good dose of Armour ASAP. It relaxes smooth muscles and lowers pressure. Don't forget DHEA and enough iodine. Gracia I Recent Activity a.. 12New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Resources on Find answers, help and support. Healthy Eating Find that are focused on healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1170 - Release Date: 12/4/2007 10:52 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 truly appreciate the concern. I won't say that I don't tolerate it at all.....makes my joints feel better...makes a li'l more pro-active...maybe itz the HC....but I think it is the Armour...either way it does do a lotta good...itz not balanced right I think. thanks again WS Re: Armour and Glaucoma Did you ask your eye doctor about this? Have you researched it online, looking for message boards and stuff? Perhaps you just don't tolerate armour well and could try something else? Wish I could be more helpful. Take care, In a message dated 12/4/07 10:23:17 PM, weirdscientist78 writes: > > I was in the process of getting myself treated for Hypo ...these were > the steps I took toward > achieving it : > 1) got my salivary tests done from DiagnosTech. > 2) then started on Isocort for a while..after 3-4 weeks switched to > HC..was on that for a month after which I ordered Armour( the med I > was waiting patiently for)...took me about 3 weeks to get the Armour( > from " the list " )....but 3 days before I got the Armour I went to see > an Ophthalmologist since I was having floaters in my eyes..got worried > that it could be a symptom of retinal detachment.. .the doctor did the > tests...said the pressure was high (my Ocular pressure has always been > high...like 20-22)...he then suggested that I get myself tested for > Glaucoma.I had scheduled the tests for the next week..in the > meanwhile, the Armour arrived and I started with 1/2 grain a > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights). > > Finally I saw the Ophth( not being able to bear the pain in my eyes) > he did the tests and said I did have glaucoma...the pressure this time > was nearly 32( mind you the pressure goes up when you lie down) ...so > nighttime pressure might very well hae been nearly 40..since I had a > hard time sleeping. > > anywayz that was 3 months ago. my eyes were feeling ok...so I wanted > to get back on Armour and get myself treated for Hypo...started it a > week ago..well 10 days ago...now the pain in my eyes is really > unbearable. > > I really dont know how to handle this. > > Help!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! > > ************ ********* ********* ******** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money. aol.com/special/ hot-products- 2007?NCID= aoltop0003000000 0001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 weirdscientist78 wrote: > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get drunk. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 exactly my point moron!!!!!!!!! and I did get drunk.... Ashwin Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: weirdscientist78 wrote: > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get drunk. Chuck --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 hate it when people like you give smart-ass analogies without understanding !@#$ about what others go through. Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: weirdscientist78 wrote: > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get drunk. Chuck --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think there as ever been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people here........ we all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for. Venizia > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... > > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get > drunk. > > Chuck > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on first impression..and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at that..I don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt getting drunk. venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think there as ever been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people here........ we all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for. Venizia > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... > > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get > drunk. > > Chuck > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 weird Scientist wrote: > > hate it when people like you give smart-ass analogies without > understanding !@#$ about what others go through. Let's see if I got this straight. You post that you self diagnosed yourself as hypothyroid using a saliva test and prescribed 1/2 grain of Armour. Half a dozen people on this list then respond that your are probably grossly under dosed. You are surprised that your minuscule dose does not relieve your glaucoma, the diagnosis for which is confirmed by an actual doctor. And your response to my analogy is to call ME a moron? Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 He wasn't commenting on you getting drunk, he was making an analogy. Maybe his illustration was beyond you, or maybe you are just touchy because it hit home. In any event you had no right to do what you did. It was rude and crass. Roni weird Scientist <weirdscientist78@...> wrote: well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on first impression..and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at that..I don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt getting drunk. venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think there as ever been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people here........ we all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for. Venizia > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... > > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get > drunk. > > Chuck > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Roni and Venizia, Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there, right? I'll live. Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described. However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT, which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 the post was about Armour, glaucoma and intraocular pressure..there were people who didn't have much to say...but at the very least sympathized or posted what they could find on the internet...thatz how you offer your help.... not by saying un-necessary stuff...I don;t care who he is or what he has done so far...what he said was RUDE...if anything he should be apologizing. Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: He wasn't commenting on you getting drunk, he was making an analogy. Maybe his illustration was beyond you, or maybe you are just touchy because it hit home. In any event you had no right to do what you did. It was rude and crass. Roni weird Scientist <weirdscientist78@...> wrote: well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on first impression..and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at that..I don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt getting drunk. venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think there as ever been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people here........ we all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for. Venizia > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... > > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get > drunk. > > Chuck > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I think you are being overly sensitive. We also have a sense of humor in this group.....we need to have a sense of humor with this disease. Chuck also does not know you, so you should not have taken it so personally. He was not being derogatory toward you but I am sure Chuck will tell you himself....... Venizia > > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... > > > > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get > > drunk. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 that was a lot better...THANK YOU Chuck. yes but the problem is it is making me feel better too at the same time...my joints feel ecstatic...my energy levels are far higher than they were...don't feel as cold as I felt 2 weeks ago...I am typing way faster than i was a month ago...also, added to my problems Xalatan(glaucoma meds) has problems of itz own...blurry vision...severely dry eyes...and Armour seems to exacerbate the problem (atleast in my case). which is why it is very confusing. thank you. Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Roni and Venizia, Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there, right? I'll live. Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described. However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT, which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking. Chuck --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Whew, I'm glad that's over! Let's not go there again. WS, we love Chuck around here and if her ever offends you again just tell yourself its the synthroid and move on:) I find it so funny that a med that is suppose to help your eyes give you side effects that makes eyes worse. Oh no its not funny just modern medicine. Oh here is an article that is unrelated. http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews aspx?type=healthNews & storyid=2007-12-03T215021Z_01_WRI378511_RTRUKOC_0_US-HON Y-EASES-NIGHTTIME-COUGH.xml -- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma that was a lot better...THANK YOU Chuck. yes but the problem is it is making me feel better too at the same time...my joints feel ecstatic...my energy levels are far higher than they were...don t feel as cold as I felt 2 weeks ago...I am typing way faster than i was a month ago...also, added to my problems Xalatan(glaucoma meds) has problems of itz own...blurry vision...severely dry eyes...and Armour seems to exacerbate the problem (atleast in my case). which is why it is very confusing. thank you. Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Roni and Venizia, Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there, right? I'll live. Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described. However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT, which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking. Chuck --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Well Weird Scientist, that is much better. Would you like to reintroduce yourself and start over? Welcome to our group. Venizia Roni and Venizia, > > Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with > someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very > accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there, > right? I'll live. > > Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially > no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't > help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described. > However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT, > which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you > feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of > all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking. > > Chuck > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I thought it was a great comment and even surprised me a little! I wonder how you could interpret it as having anything to do with you???? silly Gracia well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on first impression..and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at that..I don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt getting drunk. venizia1948 <nelsonck@...> wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If you have read any of our previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not think there as ever been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help people here........ we all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for. Venizia > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... > > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to get > drunk. > > Chuck > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Your assessment makes perfect sense to me.. With all the illness we deal with we need to keep two things straight, information, support and laughter. (that was 3) I guess, but anyway that's what we need to beat these things. Roni Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Roni and Venizia, Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there, right? I'll live. Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described. However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT, which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking. Chuck --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 No need to thank me. It was so shocking to me to read that. I just had to speak my mind. Besides eveything I said about you was true. You have been an asset to this group. You are probably correct in that being ill can make people do things they might normally not do. Anyway, you are entirely welcome. Venizia > > Roni and Venizia, > > Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with > someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very > accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there, > right? I'll live. > > Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially > no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't > help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described. > However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT, > which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you > feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of > all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 If you hang around long enough to get to know Chuck even a little bit then you will find that he is about the last person in the world to give any kind of " smart @$$ " thoughtless response. Not only is Chuck more of the opposite temperament, he is our resident PhD scientist. We value him highly here; even those who do not appreciate the scientific method DO appreciate Chuck. I saw absolutely nothing in his post poking fun at you. In case you still haven't figured it out what Chuck was saying is that the dose of Armour that you're taking is too small to have any appreciable benefit. ly, your resorting to calling someone a moron who was only trying to help speaks extremely poorly of you. I hope the impression you have managed to give is false; and that you were just having a bad day. For most of us to call Chuck a moron would be a little like Homer Simpson instructing Einstein on the differences between special and general relativity. > > Re: Armour and Glaucoma > <hypothyroidism/message/32924;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbTZlamV\ jBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI5MjQEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NjkxMjU0MA--> > > > > Posted by: " weird Scientist " weirdscientist78@... > <mailto:weirdscientist78@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Armour%20and%20Glaucoma> > weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78> > > > Wed Dec 5, 2007 7:15 pm (PST) > > well...that was the first response I got from him...I acted based on > first impression.. > and if he didn't have anything to say, he could've left it at that..I > don't know why he had to poke fun at me with those comments abt > getting drunk. > > venizia1948 <nelsonck@... <mailto:nelsonck%40sbcglobal.net>> > wrote: Oh my gosh, I am totally shocked that you can be so rude. If > you have read any of our > previous posts you would know what kind of person Chuck is. I do not > think there as ever > been any one as harsh and rude as you in this group. We try to help > people here........ we > all have our opinions but my gosh that was uncalled for. > > Venizia > > > > > ... I started with 1/2 grain a > > > day(sublingual) for nearly 6-7 days during which the pain in my eyes > > > steadily climbed...I couldn't be sure if it was the Armour or coz of a > > > test that the Ophth had performed the previous week( he was looking > > > behind the retina with a lotta bright lights).... > > > > 1/2 grain of Armour is a bit like smelling the cork and expecting to > get > > drunk. > > > > Chuck > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 weird Scientist wrote: > ..blurry > vision...severely dry eyes...and Armour seems to exacerbate the problem > (atleast in my case). Those are classic hypoT symptoms. You are simply not getting nearly enough Armour. Proper dosing requires fine tuning. Until you get close to an optimum dose, you will still feel so bad you may not be able to tell which way is up. You also never told us what your test results indicated. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 venizia, You are much too kind. We also need to make some allowance for the medium. Without body language and tone, the casually written word can often be misinterpreted. On one of my first forays into discussion lists, I made a brief comment about a vestigial part of our brains, which a normally kind old gentleman interpreted as referring to another body part and proceeded to verbally chastise me for posting obscenity. He never responded to my anatomical explanation, let alone apologize. It goes with the territory. Chuck P.S. 1948 was a very good year! > > > No need to thank me. It was so shocking to me to read that. I just had > to speak my mind. > Besides eveything I said about you was true. You have been an asset to > this group. You > are probably correct in that being ill can make people do things they > might normally not > do. Anyway, you are entirely welcome. > > Venizia > > > > > > Roni and Venizia, > > > > Thank you both for coming to my defense. Obviously we are dealing with > > someone who is ill and may not be interpreting the postings very > > accurately nor responding rationally to them. We've all been there, > > right? I'll live. > > > > Weird Scientist, the point was that 1/2 grain of Armour is essentially > > no dose at all. If you are indeed hypoT, that amount of medication won't > > help and in time will leave you feeling worse, as you described. > > However, if you are not hypoT, it might actually cause you to be hyperT, > > which could very well aggravate the very real glaucoma, and make you > > feel worse, as you described. You need to be treated by someone aware of > > all three possible conditions and the medication you are taking. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1174 - Release Date: 12/6/2007 10:11 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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