Re: Armour and Glaucoma

December 19, 2007

So, maybe you have something going on beside thyroid problems. You did say

that your labs were fine right? Are you going to request an MRI of your

pituitary?

cw

-- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma

too little was causing too much pain (my eyes) ...and that was what was

scaring me ....and I sent an email out to see if anybody else has gone

through this before. ... I was surprised that there were other ppl with

similar Hypo symptoms...I thought ..might as well give this a shot and see

if there are ppl out there with glaucoma issues as well... apparently they

do..not as many though and not one with the same symptoms to match.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

????

there are no side effects from a bioidentical hormone. there is only too

much or too little.

1/2 grain Armour qualifies as too little.

thyroid hormone affects every cell in the body.

Gracia

well..I thought we were treating based on symptoms...not just based on the

labs...and Armour does do me a lotta good...for instance, me typing away

like this was an impossibility 2 weeks ago (which is when I started 1/2

grain)...

even my acidity seems to be neutralized for some reason..am ALWAYS acidic.

and I HAVE to eat on time...otherwise I start being Hypoglycemic...weak etc.

..but now if I don't eat (which doesn't happen often) it doesn't seem to

bother me all that much...well..I have had this rash right below my adam's

apple for a week now as well...not sure if that has anything to do with it.

anywayz my point being i like the benefits of Armour...am just scared about

itz detriments( well just one really...itz effect on the eyes)

WS

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: weird Scientist,

So, again, what in this prompted you to prescribe 1/2 grain of Armour?

Chuck

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December 19, 2007

I might consider doing that sometime in January ..yes.

thank you.

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: So,

maybe you have something going on beside thyroid problems. You did say

that your labs were fine right? Are you going to request an MRI of your

pituitary?

cw

-- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma

too little was causing too much pain (my eyes) ...and that was what was

scaring me ....and I sent an email out to see if anybody else has gone

through this before. ... I was surprised that there were other ppl with

similar Hypo symptoms...I thought ..might as well give this a shot and see

if there are ppl out there with glaucoma issues as well... apparently they

do..not as many though and not one with the same symptoms to match.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

????

there are no side effects from a bioidentical hormone. there is only too

much or too little.

1/2 grain Armour qualifies as too little.

thyroid hormone affects every cell in the body.

Gracia

well..I thought we were treating based on symptoms...not just based on the

labs...and Armour does do me a lotta good...for instance, me typing away

like this was an impossibility 2 weeks ago (which is when I started 1/2

grain)...

even my acidity seems to be neutralized for some reason..am ALWAYS acidic.

and I HAVE to eat on time...otherwise I start being Hypoglycemic...weak etc.

.but now if I don't eat (which doesn't happen often) it doesn't seem to

bother me all that much...well..I have had this rash right below my adam's

apple for a week now as well...not sure if that has anything to do with it.

anywayz my point being i like the benefits of Armour...am just scared about

itz detriments( well just one really...itz effect on the eyes)

WS

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: weird Scientist,

So, again, what in this prompted you to prescribe 1/2 grain of Armour?

Chuck

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December 19, 2007

You better. Then let me know what happens

Sometimes it can take U a while to get in for one so you may wanna schedule

now.

-- Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma

too little was causing too much pain (my eyes) ...and that was what was

scaring me ....and I sent an email out to see if anybody else has gone

through this before. ... I was surprised that there were other ppl with

similar Hypo symptoms...I thought ..might as well give this a shot and see

if there are ppl out there with glaucoma issues as well... apparently they

do..not as many though and not one with the same symptoms to match.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

????

there are no side effects from a bioidentical hormone. there is only too

much or too little.

1/2 grain Armour qualifies as too little.

thyroid hormone affects every cell in the body.

Gracia

well..I thought we were treating based on symptoms...not just based on the

labs...and Armour does do me a lotta good...for instance, me typing away

like this was an impossibility 2 weeks ago (which is when I started 1/2

grain)...

even my acidity seems to be neutralized for some reason..am ALWAYS acidic.

and I HAVE to eat on time...otherwise I start being Hypoglycemic...weak etc.

..but now if I don't eat (which doesn't happen often) it doesn't seem to

bother me all that much...well..I have had this rash right below my adam's

apple for a week now as well...not sure if that has anything to do with it.

anywayz my point being i like the benefits of Armour...am just scared about

itz detriments( well just one really...itz effect on the eyes)

WS

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: weird Scientist,

So, again, what in this prompted you to prescribe 1/2 grain of Armour?

Chuck

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December 19, 2007

If you go to a doctor then it's possible he might harm or even kill

you. If you treat yourself then it's possible you may harm or kill

yourself.

My personal opinion is that your chances of harming yourself if you

treat without really knowing what the problem is are probably at least

1000 times greater than that of your being harmed by a doctor.

Treating to symptoms MAY work _FOR SOME PEOPLE_ _ SOME OF THE TIME_.

And it's recommended by some here who do so. Personally I would

strongly advise that you get professional help.

>

> Re: Armour and Glaucoma

>

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> weirdscientist78 <weirdscientist78>

>

> Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:50 pm (PST)

>

> I am not sure what kinda symptoms do I have to have to make myself

> believable..

> I'd pretty much have every symptom that anybody thatz been diagnosed

> with Hypothyroidism has...except for being overweight...

>

> and you are right about the going blind thing... which is the reason I

> have stopped Armour..itz been two weeks now.... I don't plan on taking

> it for quite a bit.

>

> maybe HC...and even thatz scary... but certainly not Armour.

>

> yes I would take advice from ppl who have already gone through this

> sh & *..I always respect ppl ..thank everybody etc ... when you gave me

> that reply the other day .I was in real pain...and in no position to

> take crap from anybody.

>

> I actually felt better on HC alone ..but that took quite a while to

> work...and itwas before the Glaucoma diagnosis.

>

> Chuck B <gumboyaya@... <mailto:gumboyaya%40cox.net>> wrote: weird

> Scientist,

>

> This response just arrived. Evidently is scrambling deliveries.

>

> You wrote:

> >

> > well..I thought we were treating based on symptoms...not just based on

> > the labs...and Armour does do me a lotta good...for instance, me typing

> > away like this was an impossibility 2 weeks ago (which is when I

> started

> > 1/2 grain)...

>

> Well then, what of your symptoms caused you to draw conclusions

> completely contradictory to your saliva tests?

>

> You have chosen to self prescribe some serious medication in

> contradiction to tests, albeit questionable tests, even though that

> medication might leave you permanently blind. That fact alone makes me

> wonder whether you would really accept advice from this list. I can see

> that my remark, to which you reacted so emotionally, was probably

> incorrect. Even your incredibly low dosage is probably not justified,

> whether you think it is causing a benefit or not.

>

> Treating based on symptoms means that your symptoms can be used as an

> additional source of information once you have a clear diagnosis. If you

> don't know with certainty that the cause is your thyroid, then symptoms

> are just symptoms. All sorts of things cause similar symptoms. You need

> to have some confidence that your symptoms are reliable indicators of

> thyroid status. Even then, most doctors take patient reports with a

> grain of salt, since most people are quite suggestible and subject to

> placebo effects. Blood tests are not.

>

> I would think that glaucoma is a sufficiently serious threat that you

> would not want to risk a direct threat to your vision over unreliable

> tests and symptoms that could be anything.

>

> Chuck

December 19, 2007

it's really hard for ppl to understand dosing, and docs just don't get it at

all.

Gracia

too little was causing too much pain (my eyes) ...and that was what was

scaring me ....and I sent an email out to see if anybody else has gone through

this before. ... I was surprised that there were other ppl with similar Hypo

symptoms...I thought ..might as well give this a shot and see if there are ppl

out there with glaucoma issues as well... apparently they do..not as many though

and not one with the same symptoms to match.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

????

there are no side effects from a bioidentical hormone. there is only too much

or too little.

1/2 grain Armour qualifies as too little.

thyroid hormone affects every cell in the body.

Gracia

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December 20, 2007

Hyperthyroid and all its accompanying symptoms (otherwise known as side

effects) is a disease caused by your own body producing too much of thyroid

hormones,. Endometrial cancer, breast cancer is caused by a problem with

your estradial and progesterone balance, too little thyroid put out by your

own body is hypothyroid... too much adrenaline causes panic attacks and so

on and so on. All of these things can occur naturally in your body without

every having used the first prescription for hormones - compounded or not.

When you add prescriptions to the mix of your own production of natural

hormones - you are indeed susceptible to the same side effects that your own

body can cause... not to mention any reactions you may have from ingredients

in the compounds or the pills.

Re: Re: Armour and Glaucoma

????

there are no side effects from a bioidentical hormone. there is only too

much or too little.

1/2 grain Armour qualifies as too little.

thyroid hormone affects every cell in the body.

Gracia

well..I thought we were treating based on symptoms...not just based on the

labs...and Armour does do me a lotta good...for instance, me typing away

like this was an impossibility 2 weeks ago (which is when I started 1/2

grain)...

even my acidity seems to be neutralized for some reason..am ALWAYS

acidic..and I HAVE to eat on time...otherwise I start being

Hypoglycemic...weak etc...but now if I don't eat (which doesn't happen

often) it doesn't seem to bother me all that much...well..I have had this

rash right below my adam's apple for a week now as well...not sure if that

has anything to do with it.

anywayz my point being i like the benefits of Armour...am just scared about

itz detriments( well just one really...itz effect on the eyes)

WS

Chuck B <gumboyayacox (DOT) <mailto:gumboyaya%40cox.net> net> wrote: weird

Scientist,

So, again, what in this prompted you to prescribe 1/2 grain of Armour?

Chuck

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December 23, 2007

I guess I really don't see it that way! I use a more holistic approach. I

am not at war with my body but seek to support it.