glutathione

[Guest guest]

Can you tell us where its compounded, the amount, and how many sprays

a day? THANX

> I do Glutithione Nasal spray 3 to 4 times a day. I find it the

easiest way

> to do it

>

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>

[Guest guest]

hi check out www. iherb.com they have the cheapest prices for immunopro if

u buy in volumen..i share with a friend.

from my experiance each of the whye proteins is different.. i like immupro

rx the best but its the most potent , have tried immunplus and immunnocal.(

seem to be weaker that i can tqke more before i react to it but then its

more expensive per seruving) their are newer ones imunoplex etc but never

tried them but others have... if u are toxic i suggest start really low ..i

coudlnt take more than 1/4 tsp for years and now take one scoop twice daily

...i also add nac+ glycine + gutamine to it.... good luck tealk

> [Original Message]

> From: pjeaneus <pj7@...>

> < >

> Date: 10/1/2004 6:45:37 PM

> Subject: Re: Glutathione

>

>

> Look into ImmunePro. I buy it from Pro Health or ImmuneSupport. They

> have a pretty good price. Some people use sublingual glutathione. It

> may be as good or better, but there does seem to be good research on

> the ImmunePro boosting glutathione levels.

> a

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> > I see many references to glutathione depletion. Any suggestions on

> > how to replenish glutathione in the body?

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

The issue may not be the glutathione but the amino acid deficit. I have said

many times on this list and others that with a lack of protein digestion the

amino acids are NOT going to be there. The GEM Test from Look For Health does

2 chymotrypsin samples as well as antigens and yeast culture. The test will

show early signs of GI dysfunction even as early as day 3 of life or or

anytime after.

PLease look at _www.LookForHealth.com_ (http://www.lookforhealth.com/)

If you have any questions please email me privately if you wish. I did it

for my kids and it helped them tremendously!

Rich Ferris

Father and Researcher

[Guest guest]

Couldn't open link, Rich. Is there another way to this info?

Thx,

Sheri B.

phonesister@... wrote:

The issue may not be the glutathione but the amino acid deficit. I have said

many times on this list and others that with a lack of protein digestion the

amino acids are NOT going to be there. The GEM Test from Look For Health does

2 chymotrypsin samples as well as antigens and yeast culture. The test will

show early signs of GI dysfunction even as early as day 3 of life or or

anytime after.

PLease look at _www.LookForHealth.com_ (http://www.lookforhealth.com/)

If you have any questions please email me privately if you wish. I did it

for my kids and it helped them tremendously!

Rich Ferris

Father and Researcher

[Guest guest]

Hi

Is anyone showing any great improvement taking glutathione. My friend had

injections for ages at great expense by Dr Hyams, in London and felt no

different. i do not to order immunocal from the US as it is expensive unless

people are seeing improvements although I appreciate it needs to be part of

a wider programme. It has been spoken of a great deal so I guess many are

trying it. I certainly have circulation problems when I stand up, my heart

thumps like mad. Whenever I see a doctor they say my blood pressure is low

which is good!! not if you feel like this.

n

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi n,

You should have the glutathione levels in your blood tested before taking a

whey supplement. That way you will know for sure if you really need it.

bb

[Guest guest]

Hi n, taking glutathione as a supplement does not work very well, your GI

tract destroys most of it, shots and IV have shown to fare better but not much,

your body makes its own glutathione but is hampered by the lack of cysteine a

vital amino acid, i have used a cysteine rich protein isolate with great success

to treat FM-CFS, and yes your right together with with a wider program. this has

worked for me. you can go to my web site for more info.

www.goodmednews.com thanks MARTIN

n Tait <mariontait@...> wrote:

Hi

Is anyone showing any great improvement taking glutathione. My friend had

injections for ages at great expense by Dr Hyams, in London and felt no

different. i do not to order immunocal from the US as it is expensive unless

people are seeing improvements although I appreciate it needs to be part of

a wider programme. It has been spoken of a great deal so I guess many are

trying it. I certainly have circulation problems when I stand up, my heart

thumps like mad. Whenever I see a doctor they say my blood pressure is low

which is good!! not if you feel like this.

n

>

>

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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[Guest guest]

Geez you've said this about three times in the last two days. If you

don't say what it is then you are clearly trying to make money off it.

No problem with making money but be upfront. I wagered that it was

Immunocal or HMS Pro.

Oral glutathione that IS taken up into the cells is now available from

Wellness Pharmacy and is more likely to be completely safe and your

body won't have to do any rate limiting steps to make glutathione out

of precursors. IF you want to do oral.

> Hi n, taking glutathione as a supplement does not work very

well, your GI tract destroys most of it, shots and IV have shown to

fare better but not much, your body makes its own glutathione but is

hampered by the lack of cysteine a vital amino acid, i have used a

cysteine rich protein isolate with great success to treat FM-CFS, and

yes your right together with with a wider program. this has worked for

me. you can go to my web site for more info.

> www.goodmednews.com thanks MARTIN

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ditto Jill. Good point. I think 's website also refers to

'Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia'. When I see Syndrome left off of

Chronic Fatigue, it makes me think 1)the person doesn't know what

they are talking about, or 2)they are trying to market whatever to

anyone who has a condition that causes fatigue.

Mike C.

> > Hi n, taking glutathione as a supplement does not work very

> well, your GI tract destroys most of it, shots and IV have shown

to

> fare better but not much, your body makes its own glutathione but

is

> hampered by the lack of cysteine a vital amino acid, i have used a

> cysteine rich protein isolate with great success to treat FM-CFS,

and

> yes your right together with with a wider program. this has worked

for

> me. you can go to my web site for more info.

> > www.goodmednews.com thanks MARTIN

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

This is a good point. Cutler actually recommends against

glutathione boosting in some cases because it can cause more mercury

movement. I read on an autism list that Cutler says some autistic kids

have problems with sulfur use in the liver and thus they respond to

glutathione boosting differently. Maybe that applies to some of us as

well.

Re: Glutathione

Hi n,

You should have the glutathione levels in your blood tested before

taking a

whey supplement. That way you will know for sure if you really need it.

bb

[Guest guest]

Using Lipo GSH here, both days

MAndi

I am not sure whether to give glutathione on off days or just on DMPS days. what does everyone else do?

[Guest guest]

If you're using the TD-DMPS, the glutathione is in the solution. I also give oral supplementation every day, although I do not feel the oral dosing has been of any benefit to us, probably because we're getting enough transdermally,

Joy in Bolton

[Guest guest]

Yes. And it is an essential mineral for excreting mercury. You need to have essentials minerals checked. My daughter takes B12 Methyl Folinic Acid and also Gluthathione in a cream while we are doing the chelation. The B12 Methyl Folinic Acid brought her Gluthathione level up to what it is suppose to be. She was also missing zinic, sulfur, and Selenium. (I misspelled everyone of these) But that is what she is replacing in supplements now. God Bless and be with you

[Guest guest]

You can do a Genomics test to measure ability to detox.

Ricci knows a company that does Gluth blood tests I believe.

A long time ago she sent me a link.

Many of us just supplement with it because it is such a huge issue with our kids.

Great stuff if your not already using it.

<AWROSENTHL@...> wrote:

Does anyone know if glutathione can be measured in a child's blood?__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Here is a brain dump on Glutathione: http://www.tacanow.com/glutathione.htm

One of the best things I have done for my

kiddo

Hugs

A Jeff's mom

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:22

PM

EOHarm

Subject: Glutathione

Does anyone know if glutathione can be measured in a child's blood?

[Guest guest]

Our doctor checked reduced glutathione level in a test done by Great Smokies Lab in Asheville. I think it was a fairly inexpensive test.

patti

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:22:19 -0000 "" <AWROSENTHL@...> writes:

Does anyone know if glutathione can be measured in a child's blood?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 06/09/2005 14:19:13 GMT Daylight Time, gail@... writes:

Can anyone advise please? Been giving my son liquid glutathione - just a few drops - if I increase it makes him more stimmy.

>>>Same here - Sam does best on 4 drops 3-4 ttimes per days

Sharons lad can glug from the bottle LOL

Mandi

PS TD Gave us stims++++ and rashes

[Guest guest]

We started off great but then got worse and worse till we reached intolerable, seems to react badly to anything that begins with Glut?????

It isn't science lol but it works round here.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

We didn't have a problem but I've read loads of posts on all the sites

about kids having problems with it. Some parents seem to do a very

tiny dose rather than the half teaspoon twice a day. I was convinced

we'd been sold duff stuff it has so little visible effect on Tom!

> Can anyone advise please? Been giving my son liquid glutathione -

just

> a few drops - if I increase it makes him more stimmy. Tried TD

> glutathione - again couple of drops but it gives him a rash. It

> disappears in couple of days. Have tried rotating on body but still

> rash appears. Has anyone else experienced or solved?? Do some kids

> just not tolerate gluathione and if so what do you give them? Or is

> this just a go even more slowly situation???? Would love to hear of

> other peoples experience.

> Thanks

> Gail

[Guest guest]

's settled on this - one 5ml tspoon in the morning -he's doing well, seems to be doing something for him, better language and strangely enough, poos!

Eileen and Jstephaniesirr <mark.grabiec@...> wrote:

We didn't have a problem but I've read loads of posts on all the sites about kids having problems with it. Some parents seem to do a very tiny dose rather than the half teaspoon twice a day. I was convinced we'd been sold duff stuff it has so little visible effect on Tom! > Can anyone advise please? Been giving my son liquid glutathione - just > a few drops - if I increase it makes him more stimmy. Tried TD > glutathione - again couple of drops but it gives him a rash. It > disappears in couple of days. Have tried rotating on body but still > rash appears. Has anyone else experienced or solved?? Do some kids > just not tolerate gluathione and if so what do you give them? Or is > this just

a go even more slowly situation???? Would love to hear of > other peoples experience.> Thanks> Gail__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Us also, I haven't seen anything that looks like an effect. Still I'm willing to believe it's probably doing something.

Abigail

Re: Glutathione

We didn't have a problem but I've read loads of posts on all the sites about kids having problems with it. Some parents seem to do a very tiny dose rather than the half teaspoon twice a day. I was convinced we'd been sold duff stuff it has so little visible effect on Tom! > Can anyone advise please? Been giving my son liquid glutathione - just > a few drops - if I increase it makes him more stimmy. Tried TD > glutathione - again couple of drops but it gives him a rash. It > disappears in couple of days. Have tried rotating on body but still > rash appears. Has anyone else experienced or solved?? Do some kids > just not tolerate gluathione and if so what do you give them? Or is > this just a go even more slowly situation???? Would love to hear of > other peoples experience.> Thanks> Gail

[Guest guest]

Thanks Anita,

My son eats bags of organic raw carrots everyday. However, he is still quite low on glutathione - I wander how well he absorbs it and also how the high levels of antimony and other metals deplete it.

Jane

glutathione

Found this on the internet one day looking for ideas on rheumatoid arthritis. People with RA have very low levels of glutathione. If you want to help kids manufacture their own glutathione, make sure vitamin B6, riboflavin, and selenium are in place. All thre are required in the manufacture of glutathione. As far as foods go, fresh fruits and vegetables provide excellent levels of glutathione, but cooked foods contained far less. Asparagus, avocado, and walnuts are particularly rich dietary sources of glutathione. Comparison of Glutathione in Fresh vs. Cooked Foods Glutathione amount (dry weight)(in milligrams per 31/2 oz (100 g) serving)Apples 21 fresh 0.0 cookedCarrots 74.6 fresh 0.0 cookedGrapefruit 70.6 fresh 0.0 cookedSpinach 166 fresh 27.1 cookedTomatoes 169 fresh 0.0 cookedAnita

[Guest guest]

Would like to say a personal thanks for this as I have RA at (as far

as I'm concerned a very young age - if anyone asks, I'll lie).

Something else to try!!

Jacqui

> Found this on the internet one day looking for ideas on rheumatoid

> arthritis. People with RA have very low levels of glutathione.

>

> If you want to help kids manufacture their own glutathione, make

> sure vitamin B6, riboflavin, and selenium are in place. All thre

> are required in the manufacture of glutathione.

>

> As far as foods go, fresh fruits and vegetables provide excellent

> levels of glutathione, but cooked foods contained far less.

> Asparagus, avocado, and walnuts are particularly rich dietary

> sources of glutathione.

>

> Comparison of Glutathione in Fresh vs. Cooked Foods

> Glutathione amount (dry weight)

> (in milligrams per 31/2 oz (100 g) serving)

> Apples 21 fresh 0.0 cooked

> Carrots 74.6 fresh 0.0 cooked

> Grapefruit 70.6 fresh 0.0 cooked

> Spinach 166 fresh 27.1 cooked

> Tomatoes 169 fresh 0.0 cooked

>

>

> Anita

[Guest guest]

Hi

I cannot give you advice but I can give you some feedback.

I found that I needed more omega 3 and to reduce my omega 6; I also

discovered the DHA in fish oil helps as much as the EPA, my brain

needed all the help it could get.

This financial balancing act is really frustrating, even so I knew I

would have to resort to some trial and error. What I learned the hard

way was that in my case I had been trying the right Tx but in the

wrong sequence, so I went back to basics but different ones this time.

My medical history, and some test result, implicated inflammation and

coagulation, as major contributors and a hurdle to making progress,

so I concentrated on those.

I know my illness and physical disability is mutlifaceted, and now

better understand what's involved. I had no doubt that the ion

channelopathy was adding to my problems, nothing else had worked for

them, so I chose to give Recuperat-ion a trial run. Recup has

definitely helped, maybe because I opted for it at the right time. I

only need half the recommended dose, more makes me feel distinctly

unwell as against herxing, so it's worked out cheaper than I had

anticipated.

Cheers, Tansy

-- In , " contactessa "

<contactessa@y...> wrote:

>

> Hello everyone, I am new and was directed to this list from Alfred

> Blasi's ( thank you, . I am sorry you are having a bad time

> with the salts/detox; I hope it gets easier soon. Good luck with

it).

>

> I have ME/CFS, main symptom fairly severe fatigue. I want to try

> Blasi's salts but he says that any precipitating agent needs first

> to be removed. In my case I suspect mercury ( from several amalgam

> fillings ) and maybe HHV6 as the theory that ME/CFS and MS are two

> branches of the same condition triggered by HHV6 in individuals

with

> a genetic predisposition ( my probably inaccurate paraphrase of

what

> I have read)is of interest to me as I have two members of my family

> with MS.

>

> I would like to ask members' advice on the following: should I take

> something before/at the same time as starting Blasi's salts? Do I

> need to boost my glutathione levels? If so why is whey powder,

which

> is rather expensive especially when shipped here to the UK,

prefered

> to glutathione tablets/capsules/sublingual lozenges which are

> cheaper? What about NAC? and what about Sam-e? - I don't even know

> what it is but have seen it refered to. Are there other things I

> should take?

>

> As far as the HHV6 goes I am currently taking olive leaf extract

and

> coconut oil and fish oil ( Prof Basant Puri's VegEPA, supposed,

> eventually to help with infections) and have felt no effects for

> good or ill from them. Does any one on this list have comments on

> thymic protein? Or IP6?

>

> I would like to work out the most cost effective way to approach

> this; I am already struggling to pay for all the supplements that I

> take which include several for thyroid and adrenal problems.

Nothing

> that I have taken to date - I have been ill for nearly 16 years -

> has helped me and if I am going to take Blasi's salts, maybe for

> months or years before noticing any effect, I do want to make sure

> that I am doing it " right " .

>

> I would be grateful for any advice on all this, the more one reads

> about this illness the more complicated it all seems and I get

daily

> more confused!

>

> Best wishes to all

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> Do I need to boost my glutathione levels? If so why is whey powder,

> which

> is rather expensive especially when shipped here to the UK, prefered

> to glutathione tablets/capsules/sublingual lozenges which are

> cheaper?

I've just e-mailed you a comprehensive post that a member of this list,

Rich V., wrote in August about ways of boosting glutathione.

Sue ,

Upstate New York