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This is great advice Marc thanks for this - without seeing this I could have

gone ahead to start Glutathione and end up making things worse for myself - so

it would seem to be that you would need to be on a Mercury detox programme

either before or in conjunction with the taking of glutathine

regards

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Glutathione

Date: Thursday, 11 December, 2008, 6:49 PM

> Easy - v v premature aging - hair literally going greyer by the day -

> and too grey for my age despite a healthy diet etc

Yes, premature aging is a good sign of excessive free radical damage.

Gray hair may be part of that, although I think gray hair could just

be a mineral deficiency.

I do note that Andy Cutler (a mercury " expert " with an almost cult

following) advises that mercury toxic people NOT take supplementary

glutathione unless they have test results showing they are deficient.

Otherwise, glutathione could unsafely mobilize mercury without

removing it from the body.

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> This is great advice Marc thanks for this - without seeing this I could

> have gone ahead to start Glutathione and end up making things worse for

> myself

I know that in my own case, whenever I take anything that is supposed

to raise glutathione to a significant degree, I feel terrible. I do

okay with things that raise it a little (e.g. an avocado), but with

supplements, I usually can only tolerate a fraction of the recommend

dosage.

Marc

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maybe I should do a search on naturally occuring sources because I could

inadvertently be taking it in, although in lower levels than you would find in a

supplement. Over the last 6-8 weeks I have eliminated chocolate, which I think

has made a postive difference, and have started eating an apple and a banana

almost every day - trivial I know but I actually think they are helping my

overall sensitivity.

 

Regards

 

Steph

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Subject: Re: Re: Glutathione

Date: Friday, 12 December, 2008, 4:10 PM

> This is great advice Marc thanks for this - without seeing this I could

> have gone ahead to start Glutathione and end up making things worse for

> myself

I know that in my own case, whenever I take anything that is supposed

to raise glutathione to a significant degree, I feel terrible. I do

okay with things that raise it a little (e.g. an avocado), but with

supplements, I usually can only tolerate a fraction of the recommend

dosage.

Marc

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> maybe I should do a search on naturally occuring sources because I

> could inadvertently be taking it in, although in lower levels than

> you would find in a supplement. Over the last 6-8 weeks I have

> eliminated chocolate, which I think has made a postive difference,

> and have started eating an apple and a banana almost every day -

> trivial I know but I actually think they are helping my overall sensitivity.

I wouldn't necessarily go out of my way to avoid glutathione, just

be aware that overdoing it could make you feel bad. Personally,

I eat an avocado every day because I have noted that I do better

on days that I eat an avocado than when not. And like you, I

also eat an apple and banana every day for the same reason.

Marc

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and Marc,

I have problems with many supplements including some glutathione. But

i do really well on glutathione precuror aminos such as those found

in whey, the brand Immunopro being generally regarded as the best.

Whey also has a few immuno boosting substances. Even though i am

allergic to pasturized dairy, this whey has tested energetically as

the most valuable supplement that i have...until possibly iodine,

which i haven't tested yet.

> > maybe I should do a search on naturally occuring sources because

I

> > could inadvertently be taking it in, although in lower levels

than

> > you would find in a supplement. Over the last 6-8 weeks I have

> > eliminated chocolate, which I think has made a postive

difference,

> > and have started eating an apple and a banana almost every day -

> > trivial I know but I actually think they are helping my overall

sensitivity.

>

> I wouldn't necessarily go out of my way to avoid glutathione, just

> be aware that overdoing it could make you feel bad. Personally,

> I eat an avocado every day because I have noted that I do better

> on days that I eat an avocado than when not. And like you, I

> also eat an apple and banana every day for the same reason.

>

> Marc

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Marc and Amy

 

I am a firm believer that your body/mind will instinctively tell you what it

needs (and what it doesn't) if you only listen to it - but it is fascinating to

know why you respond particularly well to some foods etc. I love bananas so

that's no hardship, however with avocados its another thing altogether - I can

take a small bit chopped up into a salad or something, but couldn't eat a whole

one. I will check out the immunopro.

 

Regards

 

Steph

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Subject: Re: Re: Glutathione

Date: Friday, 12 December, 2008, 8:17 PM

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I eat an avocado every day because I have noted that I do better

on days that I eat an avocado than when not. And like you, I

also eat an apple and banana every day for the same reason.

Marc

Interesting. I always knew I felt better after eating avocados and now I

know why! Same with bananas. This has been a very interesting thread.

Amy

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nah, when it comes to buying whey with no lactose you can be more accurate

than Sahelian's use of " likely " . Sugars and carbohydrates are definitely listed

on the label or the ingredients list online, and whey isolates and concentrates

can be had with essentially zero.

Plus, lactose intolerance disappears when you're on inulin, because inulin

supports probiotic flourish and probiotics also use the lactose (as they do

other carbs) before you react to it.

Other research points out that a lactose intolerant individual should tolerate

at least three grams of lactose in a sitting before provoking a lactose

response; regardless risk:benefit analysis still says the cold-extracted whey

and selenium are the most important supplements you could use for several

reasons.

A poor alternative that can be used for glutathione production only is cystine

(cystine, not cysteine, not n-acetylcysteine), about 1.5 to 3 grams daily, plus

the Se +-400 mcg.

Also, IV glutathione works in the blood serum and some white blood cells use it.

N-acetylcysteine, a toxic drug, also increases cellular glutathione, but M.D.s

cite diminishing returns because of the toxic effect. That's why cysteine itself

isn't used in human medicine at all, and n-acetylcysteine is only used medically

for a day or two in life-saving emergencies..

all good,

Duncan

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Hi Duncan,

I'm not sure this will help, but as you know, glutathione is only produced

inside the cells and not absorbed. Alpha-Lipoic acid, also an antioxidant,

stimulates production of glutathione and is easily orally absorbed.

Google alpha-lipoic acid by for more info.

Regards,

Craig

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Thanks Craig for this link. I went and read it right away, and forwarded it to

a friend. I have been taking Alpha-Lipoic acid for a couple weeks, and am

really excited about it. Do you have any Idea what a good dosage is? I got

some Now brand ALA at 650 mg, and am wondering if it's to much. Or is it like

vitamin C, not upper limit. Thanks,

> I'm not sure this will help, but as you know, glutathione is only produced

> inside the cells and not absorbed. Alpha-Lipoic acid, also an antioxidant,

> stimulates production of glutathione and is easily orally absorbed.

>

> Google alpha-lipoic acid by for more info.

>

> Regards,

>

> Craig

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Craig, although glutathione is not absorbed by most cells, some white blood

cells don't absorb the precursors but break down glutathione at the cell wall to

use. Lung, sinus and bowel lining cells absorb glutathione directly.

According to detailed research ALA doesn't stimulate glutathione production, it

simply recycles spent glutathione GSSG by giving up an electron, like other

antioxidants including glutathione can regenerate other antioxidants.

Milk thistle stimulates fresh glutathione production, IF sufficient precusors

are available.

By the time a person is sick, I'd suggest CoQ10 over ALA in order to increase

mitochondrial efficiency.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Hi Duncan,

>

> I'm not sure this will help, but as you know, glutathione is only produced

> inside the cells and not absorbed. Alpha-Lipoic acid, also an antioxidant,

> stimulates production of glutathione and is easily orally absorbed.

>

> Google alpha-lipoic acid by for more info.

>

> Regards,

>

> Craig

>

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Cystine and selenocysteine are capsule supplements that increase glutathione

(with selenium of course). Watch out for n-acetylcysteine; it's used as a

supplement but it becomes toxic as it rapidly hydrolyzes to free-form cysteine,

a toxin, before it hits the liver; it also has very short half life. I won't use

it.

Duncan

>

> Duncan,

> is one is allergic to whey, how else could one get glutathione in their

system?

>

> thanks,

> carmen

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Duncan, can you link me up with a specific source for the cysteine you

recommend? Thanks Doug

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Subject: Re: glutathione

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Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 12:57 PM

 

Cystine and selenocysteine are capsule supplements that

increase glutathione (with selenium of course). Watch out for n-acetylcysteine;

it's used as a supplement but it becomes toxic as it rapidly hydrolyzes to

free-form cysteine, a toxin, before it hits the liver; it also has very short

half life. I won't use it.

Duncan

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> Duncan,

> is one is allergic to whey, how else could one get glutathione in their

system?

>

> thanks,

> carmen

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Sorry, no, Doug, I have no preference.

Duncan

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> > carmen

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What do you take to raise your glutathione levels. You say that nac and

cysteine is toxic but what about L-cysteine. Should you take whey protein?

Thanks

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> > Duncan,

> > is one is allergic to whey, how else could one get glutathione in their

system?

> >

> > thanks,

> > carmen

> >

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L-cysteine is the cysteine we discuss, the toxin that is thinly disguised with

an acetyl molecule in n-acetylcysteine. Unbonded l-cysteine, which NAC rapidly

hydrolyzes to when it hits water, is a toxin that does not enter cells. Bonded

to another amino acid, the cysteine is non-toxic and can be delivered to cells.

There are a few types of bonded cysteine in uncooked whey protein, yes. This

supplement is an age-management tool; everyone who sees 100 has unusually high

levels and elderly individuals with the highest levels also have the best

functionality and the least disease.

Whey can figure prominently in reversing disease and degenerative illness.

Duncan

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> What do you take to raise your glutathione levels. You say that nac and

cysteine is toxic but what about L-cysteine. Should you take whey protein?

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Duncan,

I thought 3 amino acids are needed for glutathione effect:

L-cysteine, L-glutamic acid and glycine

cysteine is relatively rare in foodstuffs. Furthermore, if released as

the free amino acid, cysteine is toxic and spontaneously catabolized in

the gastrointestinal tract and blood plasma.(from wikipedia)

your thoughts?

thanks,

carmen

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Subject: Re: glutathione

L-cysteine is the cysteine we discuss, the toxin that is thinly disguised with

an acetyl molecule in n-acetylcysteine. Unbonded l-cysteine, which NAC rapidly

hydrolyzes to when it hits water, is a toxin that does not enter cells. Bonded

to another amino acid, the cysteine is non-toxic and can be delivered to cells.

There are a few types of bonded cysteine in uncooked whey protein, yes. This

supplement is an age-management tool; everyone who sees 100 has unusually high

levels and elderly individuals with the highest levels also have the best

functionality and the least disease.

Whey can figure prominently in reversing disease and degenerative illness.

Duncan

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True, except the glutamic acid is used as l-glutamine. The cysteine must be

delivered to the cell attached (bonded) to another amino acid; the cysteine is

stripped off and used to make glutathione once it's inside the cell. One reason

it's good to get cystine-rich foods is that both cysteines in this

cysteine=cysteine dipeptide are used to make glutathione.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Duncan,

> I thought 3 amino acids are needed for glutathione effect:

> L-cysteine, L-glutamic acid and glycine

>

> cysteine is relatively rare in foodstuffs. Furthermore, if released as

> the free amino acid, cysteine is toxic and spontaneously catabolized in

> the gastrointestinal tract and blood plasma.(from wikipedia)

>

> your thoughts?

> thanks,

> carmen

>

>

>

>

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> L-cysteine is the cysteine we discuss, the toxin that is thinly disguised with

an acetyl molecule in n-acetylcysteine. Unbonded l-cysteine, which NAC rapidly

hydrolyzes to when it hits water, is a toxin that does not enter cells. Bonded

to another amino acid, the cysteine is non-toxic and can be delivered to cells.

>

> There are a few types of bonded cysteine in uncooked whey protein, yes. This

supplement is an age-management tool; everyone who sees 100 has unusually high

levels and elderly individuals with the highest levels also have the best

functionality and the least disease.

>

> Whey can figure prominently in reversing disease and degenerative illness.

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> I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has

> it helped you? How much do you need to take?

Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of

heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is

typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements

may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which

indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid

(probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione,

like avocados.

Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado

almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening,

I'm sure!)

Marc

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Haha Marc on the Avacodo. I didn't know that so I need to add it to my diet only

I'm trying to lose weight. Why is it we can never win! lol

 

I really contribute glutithione injections to one of the things that has

literally saved my life.

We can't live without it yet mainstream medicine doesn't do anything if you are

low.

 

Loni

 

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: glutathione

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:46 AM

 

> I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has

> it helped you? How much do you need to take?

Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of

heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is

typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements

may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which

indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid

(probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione,

like avocados.

Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado

almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening,

I'm sure!)

Marc

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In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a product

called Nerve Shield.  It not only contains ALA, but also other supplements that

are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the myelin sheathing. 

Since it stated that it also helped the body make glutathione, I felt it was

worth the try.  My wife has had a very good reactio to this

supplement.    Since I observed that police radar affect her as badly as a

microwave or wifi, if not worse, I realized that protecting the nerves and

rebuilding the myelin sheathing are essential.  After about a month of use, she

has really reached a level of possible normalcy in the right environment.  As

long as the police are not shooting radar waves at her, her existence without

symptoms is totally improved.  I sincerely recommend this product.  I see it

is also available on the internet.

This brings me to the next question.  Do we have any rights to ask the police

to stop radiating our neighborhood with their speed traps?  I would like to

know if it is even legal for the police to park on private property for their

speed traps.  Unfortunately, after moving three times, this house is the best

environment, except that a church parking lot is on one side.  We virtually

have no neighbors to radiate us.  A church on one side, a field to the back,

and two semi-occupied houses on the other side.   I need to know how to

approach this speed trap problem.  I know I cannot confront the police

directly.  They will think we are crazy?  Any thoughts?  Are there human

rights groups that protect the electically sensitive?  Thanks, Mike

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: glutathione

Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:46 AM

 

> I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has

> it helped you? How much do you need to take?

Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of

heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is

typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements

may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which

indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid

(probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione,

like avocados.

Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado

almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening,

I'm sure!)

Marc

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Hi Mike

This prod sounds good Was your wife severely affected?

What were her symptoms?? And now??? wOw, can't wait to find

out more!!

Thnx

Kooky

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> From: Marc <marc@...>

> Subject: Re: glutathione

>

> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:46 AM

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>

>

> > I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has

> > it helped you? How much do you need to take?

>

> Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of

> heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is

> typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements

> may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which

> indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid

> (probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione,

> like avocados.

>

> Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado

> almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening,

> I'm sure!)

>

> Marc

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She has had severe reactions to radar, cell phones, etc. Now her reactions are

so minimal she is going back to school.

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> > I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has

> > it helped you? How much do you need to take?

>

> Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of

> heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is

> typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements

> may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which

> indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid

> (probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione,

> like avocados.

>

> Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado

> almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening,

> I'm sure!)

>

> Marc

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> In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a

> product called Nerve Shield.  It not only contains ALA, but also other

> supplements that are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the

> myelin sheathing.

Interesting! I see that the daily dose of Nerve Shield (2 tablets) contains

300mg of alpha lipoic acid. I know of at least one discussion group that

would insist that taking that much alpha lipoic acid at an interval of only

once per day would make many people worse (due to mobilization of heavy

metals), but I'm glad to hear that you're having good results.

Marc

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Suggest to the local gov't that the police should be upgraded to

Lidar (laser). It still might affect her though. In fact, first try

buying about 5 feet of " veil shield " from Less EMF. Also some microwave

absorber perhaps. In daytime I drive with veilshield across the

windshield (held up by the visors) if I expect to encounter strong

microwaves. At night it does make vision harder due to

lights diffracting, and I generally only use it at stop lights near

cell towers at night (although it's not impossible to drive with it

at night if visibility is otherwise good and there's little oncoming

traffic).

My side and rear windows are shielded with ScotchTint amber-metallic;

otherwise I'd want veil shield on all those too. The absorber I have on

the dash and rear deck, but I don't think that's critical.

I just started taking RLA finally. Will let you know if it has any

dramatic results. Also curcumin.

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> > In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a

> > product called Nerve Shield. It not only contains ALA, but also other

> > supplements that are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the

> > myelin sheathing.

>

> Interesting! I see that the daily dose of Nerve Shield (2 tablets) contains

> 300mg of alpha lipoic acid. I know of at least one discussion group that

> would insist that taking that much alpha lipoic acid at an interval of only

> once per day would make many people worse (due to mobilization of heavy

> metals), but I'm glad to hear that you're having good results.

>

> Marc

>

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