glutathione

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It takes about an extra 1/2 hour and cost me $100 per week/IV.I'll time it and get back to you- because i'm not exactly sure.-On Aug 21, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Herman Fudenberg wrote: for     CHRISTINE HEEREN   HOW     much  does it cost? How long does it take? HHF  

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Allie is about to do her 2nd full IV vit C/glutathione/NAC. I have

seen positive changes with her and the glutathione, very excited about

this mix. The good thing for Allie, she's not getting chronically ill

anymore, that's gonna make her feel better if nothing else works.

Debi

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Is her deficiency in reduced glutathione genetic?----HHF- Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:48 PMSubject: Re: glutathioneAllie is about to do her 2nd full IV vit C/glutathione/NAC. I haveseen positive changes with her and the glutathione, very excited aboutthis mix. The good thing for Allie, she's not getting chronically illanymore, that's gonna make her feel better if nothing else works.Debi

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Is her deficiency in reduced glutathione genetic?----HHF- Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:48 PMSubject: Re: glutathioneAllie is about to do her 2nd full IV vit C/glutathione/NAC. I haveseen positive changes with her and the glutathione, very excited aboutthis mix. The good thing for Allie, she's not getting chronically illanymore, that's gonna make her feel better if nothing else works.Debi

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I don't know, the genetic testing we had done by one person said

everything's okay. I'm getting the results to get the Geiers to

double-check.

Debi

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Good

HHF

Re: glutathione

I don't know, the genetic testing we had done by one person saideverything's okay. I'm getting the results to get the Geiers todouble-check.Debi>> Is her deficiency in reduced glutathione genetic?> ----HHF- > >

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How would one know if it's genetic? A test?

Diane

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> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:48 PM

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> Allie is about to do her 2nd full IV vit C/glutathione/NAC. I

have

> seen positive changes with her and the glutathione, very excited

about

> this mix. The good thing for Allie, she's not getting

chronically ill

> anymore, that's gonna make her feel better if nothing else works.

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> Debi

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[Guest guest]

, you're on the right track but glutathione

supplementation itself is close to useless unless it's injected,

and then it doesn't get into cells where 90% is needed.

You need precursors; most notable are undenatured whey and

selenium.

There's a week or more of learning curve in the scientific

literature; here's a good place to start:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutahtione-references.html

Note the FDA document and powerpoint link near the bottom right

of the page; this is a pretty good primer, in addition to Jimmy

Gutman's free ebook on glutathione near the top of the page.

Duncan

On 6 Feb 2007 at 8:43, Coconut Oil

wrote:

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> Posted by: " christopher delas penas " mrexpertclean@...

> mrexpertclean Date: Tue Feb 6, 2007 12:33 am ((PST))

>

> www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6QpoKpciX0

> Health Benefits of Glutathione Supplementation o has

> anti-aging properties

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Duncan,

You mentioned undenatured whey.

Could you answer a few questions please?

Is it undenatured if the process they use is micro-filtration?

Haven't found any whey's that say undenatured on them. Also how much

selenium, i was told 200iu a day, and you get this in one Brazil nut

apparently, is this enough and is getting it from brazil nuts okay?

I weigh 150 pounds approx, currently using only 1 scoop, 25mg of whey

a day, doing moderate exercise, is this enough?

Thanks

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Didnt know brazil nuts had that much. One site said:Brazil nuts, dried,

unblanched, 1 ounce = 544 mcg...thats amasing ! But its not

consistant,thats the problem.

" undenatured " means that it hasnt been heated to high in the

pasturisation process. Some companies go really high,other dont. Im

looking into a whey that has minimal heat used and will post the

results soon.

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, undenatured refers to the unbroken peptides we need to

produce glutathione.

Microfiltration does not guarantee the whey is undenatured

because even thoroughly ruined whey can be microfiltered

That being said, microfiltration can be designed to capture

undamaged components, and there are more undamaged components if

the product is pasteurized at a low temperature or not at all.

Several companies use raw whey and microfilter it; others use

cooked whey and microfilter it.

That's why the best way to tell what you got is to know the exact

fractions they are selling. Instructions are near the bottom of

my cold-processed whey page:

http://tinyurl.com/cuzcc

I doubt your whey has a 25 mg scoop; probably 25 grams. A well

person can get by on that for maintenance IF it's a strong

glutathione promoter; ill people would do that perhaps 3 times

daily; up to about 160 grams daily are used by body builders.

Contrary to popular myth, selenium does not occur in all Brazil

nuts. Nuts grown in Brazil, yes, but a lot are grown in selenium

deficient soils in Central America and do not contain selenium.

200 mcg selenium is maintenance that does not allow for arsenic,

which depletes selenium, in your drinking water. 400 mcg allows

for arsenic most of the time, and not for everybody, as some

people drink kind of high levels of arsenic, a biological

suppressor that is linked to mitochondrial energy impairment, and

is a cause of cancer and diabetes at the least.

Selenium's therapeutic window is 200-600 mcg for maintenance, and

at 1100 mcg tumor shrinkage and viral load reduction was seen.

This is also explained on that page I just referenced.

I hesitate to say your health program is enough; you need fiber,

inulin fiber, antioxidant vitamins, trace minerals, extra

macrominerals and such in addition to a " good " diet.

Duncan

On 8 Feb 2007 at 8:51, Coconut Oil

wrote:

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> Posted by: " " slyan2007@... slyan2007

> Duncan,

>

> You mentioned undenatured whey.

> Could you answer a few questions please?

> Is it undenatured if the process they use is micro-filtration?

> Haven't found any whey's that say undenatured on them. Also how much

> selenium, i was told 200iu a day, and you get this in one Brazil nut

> apparently, is this enough and is getting it from brazil nuts okay? I

> weigh 150 pounds approx, currently using only 1 scoop, 25mg of whey a

> day, doing moderate exercise, is this enough?

>

> Thanks

>

>

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In a message dated 11/25/2007 7:22:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

OVanPelt@... writes:

AntJoan, I am reading through 's site and just noticed that he says

choline and inositol are also important for glutathione!

Dear Olif,

Thanks for the info. I don't know what those things are, but I'll look them

up. Any idea what supplements contain all these things?

I never knew about the liver's connection to glutathione before, so this is

all new to me.

You said the supplements seemed to help you dramatically, so I'm hoping I

have a similar result.

Best.

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AntJoan, choline and inositol are B vitamins. They should be in a B complex.

recommends 500 mg though, and I am not sure if that much is in a complex. I

have NOW's choline and inositol (they are together in one bottle). I have all my

Bs separate, because I can't do B6 yet...

The cheapest place for NOW supplements is probably www.thecatalog.com. I love

their Probiotic Defense, if you are ever looking for an excellent probiotic! :-)

-Olif

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> Marc, she is taking glutathione with cysteine from Twin Labs. Mike

Thanks! With all the various things I've tried, amazingly I've

never tried taking glutathione in a capsule! My doctor gave

me some glutathione cream which absorbs through the skin

(bypassing digestion absorption problems), but I can't say

that I ever noticed it doing anything.

Marc

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I do injectable glutithione. It makes me feel much better. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: glutathione

Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 12:53 PM

> Marc, she is taking glutathione with cysteine from Twin Labs. Mike

Thanks! With all the various things I've tried, amazingly I've

never tried taking glutathione in a capsule! My doctor gave

me some glutathione cream which absorbs through the skin

(bypassing digestion absorption problems), but I can't say

that I ever noticed it doing anything.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Would there be any benefit in taking the glutathione even before amalgam

> removal?

Glutathione is an antioxidant, so if you are suffering from excess free

radical damage (probably so), then it certainly could be beneficial

either before or after amalgam removal.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I've tried glutathione in the form of Immunocal (including Platinum). I

didn't notice improvement either. Ditto Goji berries, ditto flax oil,

ditto Mountain Rose spirulina, ditto Perfect Food & Primal Defense

(though they're good foods albeit overpriced).

The latest I've purchased is blue-green algae & I'll see what gives.

I personally find the most power-foods to be probiotic yogurt - good

old yogurt - especially Stonyfield. And eggs.

Finally, VOIPS (as I forementioned & based on my experience) are top

therapies most of which can be easily tried for anyone with convenient

access to balmy-sea locales. Unfortunately due to my circumstances I

don't. As for the Vibrational therapy, I know that genuinely helps

after my experience on backseat of bus, and I wish the following were

available affordably:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6723059.html

I'm also hoping to get a bounceback chair, but meanwhile don't have

room, since I haven't had luck selling furniture to make room for same.

Minni

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> > Marc, she is taking glutathione with cysteine from Twin Labs. Mike

>

> Thanks! With all the various things I've tried, amazingly I've

> never tried taking glutathione in a capsule! My doctor gave

> me some glutathione cream which absorbs through the skin

> (bypassing digestion absorption problems), but I can't say

> that I ever noticed it doing anything.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marc - I have free radical damage like you wouldn't believe so if

glutathione would help I will certainly give it a try.

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Glutathione

Date: Thursday, 4 December, 2008, 10:33 PM

> Would there be any benefit in taking the glutathione even before amalgam

> removal?

Glutathione is an antioxidant, so if you are suffering from excess free

radical damage (probably so), then it certainly could be beneficial

either before or after amalgam removal.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I am taking N-A-C (N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine)which is a powerful

antioxident and precursor to glutathione. I have heard that

glutathione itself as a supplement is not well absorbed (though

something called reduced glutathione may be). N-A-C is suppossed to

be excellant for detoxing and of course it increases levels of

glutathione as well. I first tried it on an empty stomach as it is an

amino acid but that gave me intestinal pain. I now take it with food

and have no problem.

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> From: Marc <marc@...>

> Subject: Re: Glutathione

>

> Date: Thursday, 4 December, 2008, 10:33 PM

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amalgam

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free

> radical damage (probably so), then it certainly could be beneficial

> either before or after amalgam removal.

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> Marc

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[Guest guest]

> Thanks Marc - I have free radical damage like you wouldn't believe

so if glutathione would help I will certainly give it a try.

>

How do you know you have free radical damage?

O.

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I believe that a key point is that glutathione has a double function. (1)

General, as an antioxidant. (2) Specific, as one of the key liver detox

pathways.

For many MCS and ES people, the immune system has been seriously weakened,

and this is often due to one or more of the liver pathways being " broken " .

If the glutathione pathway is broken, or has been seriously depleted by

overload from other pathways failing, glutathione will be needed. But if

this is not the case, any antioxidant will be equally helpful.

So glutathione can help some people and not others - my impression is that

it helps more than half of severe sufferers particularly if they are MCS as

well.

Glutathione precursors like Immunocal and NAC are a good idea, but they

don't work for everyone. In some cases the flaw in the body's metabolism is

that it can't break down the precursors to make glutathione.

Also some people suffer side effects - Sue found she got bad reactions to

both NAC and immunocal, so couldn't take them.

Ian

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

minnimall

Sent: 07 December 2008 20:57

Subject: Re: glutathione

I've tried glutathione in the form of Immunocal (including Platinum). I

didn't notice improvement either. Ditto Goji berries, ditto flax oil,

ditto Mountain Rose spirulina, ditto Perfect Food & Primal Defense

(though they're good foods albeit overpriced).

The latest I've purchased is blue-green algae & I'll see what gives.

I personally find the most power-foods to be probiotic yogurt - good

old yogurt - especially Stonyfield. And eggs.

Finally, VOIPS (as I forementioned & based on my experience) are top

therapies most of which can be easily tried for anyone with convenient

access to balmy-sea locales. Unfortunately due to my circumstances I

don't. As for the Vibrational therapy, I know that genuinely helps

after my experience on backseat of bus, and I wish the following were

available affordably:

http://www.freepate <http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6723059.html>

ntsonline.com/6723059.html

I'm also hoping to get a bounceback chair, but meanwhile don't have

room, since I haven't had luck selling furniture to make room for same.

Minni

>

> > Marc, she is taking glutathione with cysteine from Twin Labs. Mike

>

> Thanks! With all the various things I've tried, amazingly I've

> never tried taking glutathione in a capsule! My doctor gave

> me some glutathione cream which absorbs through the skin

> (bypassing digestion absorption problems), but I can't say

> that I ever noticed it doing anything.

>

> Marc

>

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Easy - v v  premature aging - hair literally going greyer by the day - and too

grey for my age despite a healthy diet etc 

From: johnottawa80 <johnottawa80@...>

Subject: Re: Glutathione

Date: Monday, 8 December, 2008, 9:54 AM

> Thanks Marc - I have free radical damage like you wouldn't believe

so if glutathione would help I will certainly give it a try.

>

How do you know you have free radical damage?

O.

[Guest guest]

> Easy - v v premature aging - hair literally going greyer by the day -

> and too grey for my age despite a healthy diet etc

Yes, premature aging is a good sign of excessive free radical damage.

Gray hair may be part of that, although I think gray hair could just

be a mineral deficiency.

I do note that Andy Cutler (a mercury " expert " with an almost cult

following) advises that mercury toxic people NOT take supplementary

glutathione unless they have test results showing they are deficient.

Otherwise, glutathione could unsafely mobilize mercury without

removing it from the body.

Marc

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marc@... writes:

I eat an avocado every day because I have noted that I do better

on days that I eat an avocado than when not. And like you, I

also eat an apple and banana every day for the same reason.

Marc

Interesting. I always knew I felt better after eating avocados and now I

know why! Same with bananas. This has been a very interesting thread.

Amy

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