Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 , As a matter of interest, is Metphorman a comparatively new diabetic medication in the States? I have been taking that for about 12 years here in England. When my wife and I started our regular visits to the States, after we got married, A friend of my wife at that time, worked in the medical field, and had a book which listed all drugs, but it didn't show either of the tablets I was taking at that time, and Metphorman was one of them. If it is the same formula as we have in England, not only does it help your diabetes, but it is also supposed to curve down the amount of food intake you eat at meal times. uyeast infection > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > females, > or > > do males get too? > > > and how can it be controlled? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 , As a matter of interest, is Metphorman a comparatively new diabetic medication in the States? I have been taking that for about 12 years here in England. When my wife and I started our regular visits to the States, after we got married, A friend of my wife at that time, worked in the medical field, and had a book which listed all drugs, but it didn't show either of the tablets I was taking at that time, and Metphorman was one of them. If it is the same formula as we have in England, not only does it help your diabetes, but it is also supposed to curve down the amount of food intake you eat at meal times. uyeast infection > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > females, > or > > do males get too? > > > and how can it be controlled? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Yes, metphorman is fairly new here. The food and Drug Administration in the U.S. is slow for okaying many drugs that are used in europe. the fact that it decreases appetite is a real boon for diabetics! Re: Just don't have any ideas re what to eat and what not to eat! , As a matter of interest, is Metphorman a comparatively new diabetic medication in the States? I have been taking that for about 12 years here in England. When my wife and I started our regular visits to the States, after we got married, A friend of my wife at that time, worked in the medical field, and had a book which listed all drugs, but it didn't show either of the tablets I was taking at that time, and Metphorman was one of them. If it is the same formula as we have in England, not only does it help your diabetes, but it is also supposed to curve down the amount of food intake you eat at meal times. uyeast infection > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > females, > or > > do males get too? > > > and how can it be controlled? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Yes, metphorman is fairly new here. The food and Drug Administration in the U.S. is slow for okaying many drugs that are used in europe. the fact that it decreases appetite is a real boon for diabetics! Re: Just don't have any ideas re what to eat and what not to eat! , As a matter of interest, is Metphorman a comparatively new diabetic medication in the States? I have been taking that for about 12 years here in England. When my wife and I started our regular visits to the States, after we got married, A friend of my wife at that time, worked in the medical field, and had a book which listed all drugs, but it didn't show either of the tablets I was taking at that time, and Metphorman was one of them. If it is the same formula as we have in England, not only does it help your diabetes, but it is also supposed to curve down the amount of food intake you eat at meal times. uyeast infection > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > females, > or > > do males get too? > > > and how can it be controlled? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Yes, metphorman is fairly new here. The food and Drug Administration in the U.S. is slow for okaying many drugs that are used in europe. the fact that it decreases appetite is a real boon for diabetics! Re: Just don't have any ideas re what to eat and what not to eat! , As a matter of interest, is Metphorman a comparatively new diabetic medication in the States? I have been taking that for about 12 years here in England. When my wife and I started our regular visits to the States, after we got married, A friend of my wife at that time, worked in the medical field, and had a book which listed all drugs, but it didn't show either of the tablets I was taking at that time, and Metphorman was one of them. If it is the same formula as we have in England, not only does it help your diabetes, but it is also supposed to curve down the amount of food intake you eat at meal times. uyeast infection > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > females, > or > > do males get too? > > > and how can it be controlled? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 The rate on the glycemic index is for each item at each meal. uyeast infection >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Hello >> >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in >> >> > females, >> >> > or >> >> > > do males get too? >> >> > > > and how can it be controlled? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 The rate on the glycemic index is for each item at each meal. uyeast infection >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Hello >> >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in >> >> > females, >> >> > or >> >> > > do males get too? >> >> > > > and how can it be controlled? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Ken, I would almost bet that when you start counting them carbs and limit yourself to about 30 carbs per meal you will start doing remarkably better... Cy, the Ancient Okie.... to Re: Just don't have any ideas re what to eat and what not to eat! that's what I wanted to know also. So this high *refined sugars* count showing up throughout the day is a result of eating either rrefined sugar processed, or at least refined white floured food right? interesting. I'm getting the feel of what is right and what is not. I guess I'll have to lookup some salads to make. I find that I eat too many sandwiches using brown bread as I'm realizing that even a lot of brown bread would be determently correct? I have good solid lunches and suppers, consysting of 75 carbs but as I said, using brown bread or wholewheats on a steady leverl is not good using them on a long term basis. Ken b uyeast infection > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >> > females, > >> > or > >> > > do males get too? > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - > >> > > ---- > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 when they mean 30 carbs per day does it mean for the meal like breakfast or for the whole day? well like 30 for lunch 30 for dinner and 15 per snack? uyeast infection > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Hello > >>> >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >>> >> > females, > >>> >> > or > >>> >> > > do males get too? > >>> >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 so you're a newly diabetic? jI've been for going on 4 years . uyeast infection > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Hello > >> >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >> >> > females, > >> >> > or > >> >> > > do males get too? > >> >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 30 carbs per day is really hard to follow. Probably more realistic is 30 carbs per meal. Re: Just don't have any ideas re what to eat and what not to eat! when they mean 30 carbs per day does it mean for the meal like breakfast or for the whole day? well like 30 for lunch 30 for dinner and 15 per snack? uyeast infection > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Hello > >>> >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >>> >> > females, > >>> >> > or > >>> >> > > do males get too? > >>> >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Don't stop what you are doing ken. if you are running those excellent sugar levels, that will prolong your life for a very long time and you will not have diabetic complications. Just remember, 2 hours past eating a meal your sugar should be 6.6 or less. If you master that... your good to go! Call yoru doctor adn ask what your last hemoglobin a1c leel was. It shoudl be as close to 5.0 as possible. By keeping yoru 2 hour post meal test 6.6 or less, consistantly/about 90% of the time, your a1c will be between 5.0 to 5.5 which si excellent! You can't just check in the morning and be 5.5 and say wow I am good to go! your sugar can go from 5.5, to 9.9, to 4.9, and so on clear through the day. That is why the 2 hour post meal test is more essential, in my opinion, than any other sugar test. If your 2 hour post meal test is 6.6 or less, yor next premeal sugar is guaranteed to be around 5.0. I have been type 1 diabetic for 27 years now. Keep up the good work and don't listen to your doc telling you to eat what you want! Regards, uyeast infection > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >> > females, > >> > or > >> > > do males get too? > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 the most important reading is 2 hours past eating a meal. it has to be 6.6 or less. the 2 hour post meal test is what determines how well your sugar control will ultimately be. I check my sugar 8 times a day and more if I feel the need. Put it this way, my pancreas used to read my sugar level and squirt in insulin when I needed it. It doesn't work now so how am I going to tell what my sugar is? Guess? Based on how I feel? Nope, I have to check... once a day is not enough... you have to check 2 hours past eating a meal and keep it 6.6 or less. if it isn't 6.6 or less, then you know you ate to many carbs for that meal. why 6.6 or less 2 hours past eating? Because that guarantees you an a1c between 5.0 to 5.5 and a normal person a1c level is 5.0! It is a numbers game is all... Regards, uyeast infection > > > > > > > > Hello > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in females, or > do males get too? > > and how can it be controlled? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 the most important reading is 2 hours past eating a meal. it has to be 6.6 or less. the 2 hour post meal test is what determines how well your sugar control will ultimately be. I check my sugar 8 times a day and more if I feel the need. Put it this way, my pancreas used to read my sugar level and squirt in insulin when I needed it. It doesn't work now so how am I going to tell what my sugar is? Guess? Based on how I feel? Nope, I have to check... once a day is not enough... you have to check 2 hours past eating a meal and keep it 6.6 or less. if it isn't 6.6 or less, then you know you ate to many carbs for that meal. why 6.6 or less 2 hours past eating? Because that guarantees you an a1c between 5.0 to 5.5 and a normal person a1c level is 5.0! It is a numbers game is all... Regards, uyeast infection > > > > > > > > Hello > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in females, or > do males get too? > > and how can it be controlled? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 the most important reading is 2 hours past eating a meal. it has to be 6.6 or less. the 2 hour post meal test is what determines how well your sugar control will ultimately be. I check my sugar 8 times a day and more if I feel the need. Put it this way, my pancreas used to read my sugar level and squirt in insulin when I needed it. It doesn't work now so how am I going to tell what my sugar is? Guess? Based on how I feel? Nope, I have to check... once a day is not enough... you have to check 2 hours past eating a meal and keep it 6.6 or less. if it isn't 6.6 or less, then you know you ate to many carbs for that meal. why 6.6 or less 2 hours past eating? Because that guarantees you an a1c between 5.0 to 5.5 and a normal person a1c level is 5.0! It is a numbers game is all... Regards, uyeast infection > > > > > > > > Hello > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in females, or > do males get too? > > and how can it be controlled? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 it is best to limit your quick acting carbs in general ken. dont' eat to many quick acting carbs... they are what spike your sugar in general. Instead of eating 30 grams of a chocolate bar, toss you up a salad with cheese/meat on it, some italian dressing, and there you have a great healthy snack with about 8 grams of slow acting carbs that won't spike your sugar. make sense? eat some pickels, cucumbers, celerey, olives, cheese, meats, etc. all are alow acting carbs and won't spike your sugar and will let you snack on something... Regards, uyeast infection > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >> > females, > >> > or > >> > > do males get too? > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 ken since you are type 2 diabetic, you do not have any quick acting insulin to take to keep your sugar down. so, you must limit quick acting carbs more than a type 1 diabetic since all you have is the oral medicationa dn exercise to counter the high sugars. a type 1 diabetic takes insulin shots to keep the blood sugar down and the two hour post meal test 6.6 or less. I could eat 30 grams of a chocolate bar, dose 4 units of humalog quick acting insulin, and 2 hours later be 6.6. You would be 9.9 or higher and linger high all day. Doctors in the US do put type 2 diabetics on insulin if they want to but most patients don't like shots so they use oral medications. Some type 2 diabetics like the flexibility to dose quick acting insulin to cover the occasional treat/quick acting carb. Regards, uyeast infection > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >> > females, > >> > or > >> > > do males get too? > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 yes ken, you are getting it! good job! limit your quick acting carbs to 30 a meal and that would make it 90 total a day assumeing you eat breakfast/lunch/dinner. For lunch, you could eat 1 slice of brown bread, about 15 grams of carbs,load it up with cheese/meat, and eat an open ended sandwhich and then have a nice big salad and your good to go! Do a two hour post meal test and bet your 6.6 or less! Now eat a whole sandwich, handful of potato chips, and an apple and do a 2 hour post meal test and bet your 10.0 or higher! Regards, uyeast infection > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >> > females, > >> > or > >> > > do males get too? > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 30 a meal. 30 for breakfast, 30 for lunch, 30 for dinner. if you are hungry and want to snack in between meals, eat low carb snacks like green veggies or meats. Regards, uyeast infection > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Hello > >>> >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >>> >> > females, > >>> >> > or > >>> >> > > do males get too? > >>> >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 30 a meal. 30 for breakfast, 30 for lunch, 30 for dinner. if you are hungry and want to snack in between meals, eat low carb snacks like green veggies or meats. Regards, uyeast infection > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Hello > >>> >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >>> >> > females, > >>> >> > or > >>> >> > > do males get too? > >>> >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 correct, 30 grams per meal. that makes a total of 90 per day. Regards, uyeast infection > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Hello > >>> >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >>> >> > females, > >>> >> > or > >>> >> > > do males get too? > >>> >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I don't understand what you mean by test result of 6.6 or 9.9, all I know is 120, 140 etc. Can you explain that to me. Thank you ~ òã uyeast infection > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hello > > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common > in > > >> > females, > > >> > or > > >> > > do males get too? > > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > >> > > ---- > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 those are the numbers that Canada and some other countries use. yes, for US numbers it is 120 or less 2 hours past eating a meal. Regards, uyeast infection > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hello > > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common > in > > >> > females, > > >> > or > > >> > > do males get too? > > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > >> > > ---- > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Thank you ; I guess that's why the doctor said that I was doing well, and that he was thinking of taking me off the med. Metforman. Is it good to measure my sugars after every meal or do like the doctor suggests and that is to test once a day after a and before a meal once a day, in other words, each day test it only once starting before breakfast, then the next day before lunch and so on and then do the cycle two hours after a meal once a day. Hope this is clear to you? Thanks for your encouregment Ken b. uyeast infection > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >> > females, > >> > or > >> > > do males get too? > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Thank you ; I guess that's why the doctor said that I was doing well, and that he was thinking of taking me off the med. Metforman. Is it good to measure my sugars after every meal or do like the doctor suggests and that is to test once a day after a and before a meal once a day, in other words, each day test it only once starting before breakfast, then the next day before lunch and so on and then do the cycle two hours after a meal once a day. Hope this is clear to you? Thanks for your encouregment Ken b. uyeast infection > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello > >> > > > I know this is not a cool topic, but I guess it's common in > >> > females, > >> > or > >> > > do males get too? > >> > > > and how can it be controlled? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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