Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2007 Hi Chuck, Is the other protein called fibrinogen? I am currently studying this, so your replies are very interesting!! ) Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Venizia, The free fraction depends on the efficiency of thyroid globulin and albumen (and another protein I can't remember) in binding them. These SHOULD affect T4 and T3 the same way, so the ratios should be the same, FT4/T4 = FT3/T3. The fact that your T4 is normal but T3 is high suggests that you are simply taking too much. That agrees with the fact that TSH is too low to measure. Just shave your dosage a bit. Contrary to what Gracia suggests, you can feel just dandy and still be causing cardiac damage and bone loss. It is a serious enough issue that you should retest rather than risk letting hyperT go on for months when it can do real damage. You should still feel good with a TSH around 0.3 instead of zero. The problem with " zero " is that you can't tell how bad it really is. Chuck You wrote: > > > Gracia, > > As the saying goes " too much of anything is not good. " Normal for total > t3 is 60 - 181 > ng/dl. Mine is 403. That cannot be good. I would think it would show up > some way. It > just hasn't yet. Although today I am having some weezing going on. Don't > know if it is > related to my sulfite sensitivity or what. I know t3 total is different > from Ft3 but I don't > know what the difference is. If someone can tell me, that would be > helpful. Gracia, do you > know what you t3 total is? Also, if my ft4 is only 1.8, why is my t3 > total so high? My Ft4 > has not changed since July. Yet, my TSH and T3 total are changing. Don't > know if any of > this makes sense....just have questions. > > Venizia > > > > > > nothing is wrong with a high T3. mine is above range. T3 doesn't last > too long in the > blood ya know. Go by how you feel. > > Gracia > > > > So what is wrong with a high T3? All answers welcome!!!! > > > > > > Recent Activity > > a.. 15New Members > > Visit Your Group > > > > Having cancer is hard > > > > Finding help > > > > shouldn´t be. > > > > Healthy Eating > > on > > > > A place for parents > > > > to share their ideas. > > > > Sitebuilder > > Build a web site > > > > quickly & easily > > > > with Sitebuilder. > > . > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: > 10/9/2007 4:43 PM > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2007 venizia1948 wrote: > > > Chuck, > > I was talking about T3 total. Is that the same as a Ft3? > No, but they are connected. FT3 is a tiny fraction of Total T3, but that is the part that makes everything work. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2007 , You wrote: > > > Is the other protein called fibrinogen? I am currently studying this, so > your replies are very interesting!! ) No, it was transthyretin. Fibrinogen has a similar mechanism but is not specific for thyroxin. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2007 Chuck, Sorry to be having to ask so many questions but you are talking about the efficiency of thyroid globulin. I have those antibodies. When I called my doctor today, I spoken with his nurse and questioned why my doctor is not concerned about my Total t3 numbers and she said that for what I have going on, this is where he wants me now. Did not talk to him. Do not see him until mid Nov. I suppose I could tweak it a bit and go to 2 grains instead of spliting 3grains 4days a week and 2 grains 3 days a week. Or is that too big of a change? Can you tell I'm confused as what to do?! Venizia > > > > > > nothing is wrong with a high T3. mine is above range. T3 doesn't last > > too long in the > > blood ya know. Go by how you feel. > > > Gracia > > > > > > So what is wrong with a high T3? All answers welcome!!!! > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity > > > a.. 15New Members > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > Having cancer is hard > > > > > > Finding help > > > > > > shouldn´t be. > > > > > > Healthy Eating > > > on > > > > > > A place for parents > > > > > > to share their ideas. > > > > > > Sitebuilder > > > Build a web site > > > > > > quickly & easily > > > > > > with Sitebuilder. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: > > 10/9/2007 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2007 I not only trust how I feel... I trust the chemist! In a message dated 10/10/2007 8:13:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gumboyaya@... writes: Venizia, The free fraction depends on the efficiency of thyroid globulin and albumen (and another protein I can't remember) in binding them. These SHOULD affect T4 and T3 the same way, so the ratios should be the same, FT4/T4 = FT3/T3. The fact that your T4 is normal but T3 is high suggests that you are simply taking too much. That agrees with the fact that TSH is too low to measure. Just shave your dosage a bit. Contrary to what Gracia suggests, you can feel just dandy and still be causing cardiac damage and bone loss. It is a serious enough issue that you should retest rather than risk letting hyperT go on for months when it can do real damage. You should still feel good with a TSH around 0.3 instead of zero. The problem with " zero " is that you can't tell how bad it really is. Chuck ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2007 Venizia, You wrote: > > Sorry to be having to ask so many questions but you are talking about > the efficiency of thyroid globulin. I have those antibodies.... Globulin is not an antibody. It is a protein that binds thyroxine rather than destroys it. The binding action comes and goes, so some T3 is released back into FT3. The result is a tiny fixed fraction of T3 that remains unbound and active. The bound portion acts as a reservoir of T3 and effectively transports the T3 to remote locations where it is needed. > ...When I called my doctor today, I spoken with > his nurse and questioned why my doctor is not concerned about my Total > t3 numbers and she said that for what I have going on, this is where he wants me now. This is pretty vague. However, if the ultra low TSH is only temporary, that may not be a problem. What exactly do they think is " going on? " > ...I suppose I could tweak it a bit and > go to 2 grains instead of spliting 3grains 4days a week and 2 grains 3 days a week... I would first try a three day cycle with the first day at 3 grains followed by two days at 2 grains. You should not need a big reduction to be safe, just enough to get the TSH off the floor. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2007 Venezia, I found this in the files at NaturalThyroid group on . It was in the files under Adrenals: " People need to be aware that when cortisol is low, T3 builds up in the blood and will give false high results along with symptoms of hyperthyroid.. . . " There is more in this file. Go to Adrenal Information, then " Cortisol Allow Thyroid to enter Tissues> " . You will have to join the group but you should anyway as they have lots of files. It's a very busy site though and I found I couldn't keep up with all the mail. There is also another group offshoot from this one for people with adrenal issues. Those people are even more gabby! Pat > > Venizia- > > You are one unique gal ;-) Those numbers seem so strange? > > > > In a message dated 10/10/07 4:42:58 PM, nelsonck@... writes: > > > > Gracia, > > > > As the saying goes " too much of anything is not good. " Normal for total t3 > > is 60 - 181 > > ng/dl. Mine is 403. That cannot be good. I would think it would show up some > > way. It > > just hasn't yet. Although today I am having some weezing going on. Don't > > know if it is > > related to my sulfite sensitivity or what. I know t3 total is different from > > Ft3 but I don't > > know what the difference is. If someone can tell me, that would be helpful. > > Gracia, do you > > know what you t3 total is? Also, if my ft4 is only 1.8, why is my t3 total > > so high? My Ft4 > > has not changed since July. Yet, my TSH and T3 total are changing. Don't > > know if any of > > this makes sense....just have questions. > > > > Venizia > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 All my doctors say the same thing. Funny you should say that. Don't know what the common denominator is but something is making me unique. Maybe it's because my grandparents were first cousins. Our family often wonders about that. They even got special dispensation from the Pope to marry!! Oh yeh, good old grandma and grandpa. Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , bear339@... wrote: > > Venizia- > > You are one unique gal ;-) Those numbers seem so strange? > > > > In a message dated 10/10/07 4:42:58 PM, nelsonck@... writes: > > > > Gracia, > > > > As the saying goes " too much of anything is not good. " Normal for total t3 > > is 60 - 181 > > ng/dl. Mine is 403. That cannot be good. I would think it would show up some > > way. It > > just hasn't yet. Although today I am having some weezing going on. Don't > > know if it is > > related to my sulfite sensitivity or what. I know t3 total is different from > > Ft3 but I don't > > know what the difference is. If someone can tell me, that would be helpful. > > Gracia, do you > > know what you t3 total is? Also, if my ft4 is only 1.8, why is my t3 total > > so high? My Ft4 > > has not changed since July. Yet, my TSH and T3 total are changing. Don't > > know if any of > > this makes sense....just have questions. > > > > Venizia > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Thanks Pat. I tried to join one time about a month ago but I have not been receiving any posts. Maybe I did something wrong. I will try again. That is very interesting. I am going to bring this up to my doctor. Although I did once before but if I bring in some literature maybe it will help my case with him. Venizia -- In hypothyroidism , " planeproductions " <planeproductions@...> wrote: > > Venezia, > I found this in the files at NaturalThyroid group on . It was in > the files under Adrenals: > " People need to be aware that when cortisol is low, T3 builds up in > the blood and will give false high results along with symptoms of > hyperthyroid.. . . " > There is more in this file. Go to Adrenal Information, then " Cortisol > Allow Thyroid to enter Tissues> " . > > You will have to join the group but you should anyway as they have > lots of files. It's a very busy site though and I found I couldn't > keep up with all the mail. There is also another group offshoot from > this one for people with adrenal issues. Those people are even more > gabby! > Pat > > > > > > Venizia- > > > > You are one unique gal ;-) Those numbers seem so strange? > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/10/07 4:42:58 PM, nelsonck@ writes: > > > > > > Gracia, > > > > > > As the saying goes " too much of anything is not good. " Normal for > total t3 > > > is 60 - 181 > > > ng/dl. Mine is 403. That cannot be good. I would think it would > show up some > > > way. It > > > just hasn't yet. Although today I am having some weezing going on. > Don't > > > know if it is > > > related to my sulfite sensitivity or what. I know t3 total is > different from > > > Ft3 but I don't > > > know what the difference is. If someone can tell me, that would be > helpful. > > > Gracia, do you > > > know what you t3 total is? Also, if my ft4 is only 1.8, why is my > t3 total > > > so high? My Ft4 > > > has not changed since July. Yet, my TSH and T3 total are changing. > Don't > > > know if any of > > > this makes sense....just have questions. > > > > > > Venizia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 I would only ask for FREE T3 test, not total. and I would never take meds (Armour) b4 testing. FYI high dose iodine seems to raise TSH for a time. I don't know what effect iodine has on the Frees, might be interesting to know. So you might think you are overmediciated and " risking cardiac damage " and then with the addition of iodine/iodide you then become undermedicated. In both cases you need to go by how you feel. Gracia venizia1948 wrote: > > > Chuck, > > I was talking about T3 total. Is that the same as a Ft3? > No, but they are connected. FT3 is a tiny fraction of Total T3, but that is the part that makes everything work. Chuck ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 I think you would do better to take high dose iodine http://www.helpmythyroid.com and then add Armour as needed, same dose every day. Gracia Gracia, As the saying goes " too much of anything is not good. " Normal for total t3 is 60 - 181 ng/dl. Mine is 403. That cannot be good. I would think it would show up some way. It just hasn't yet. Although today I am having some weezing going on. Don't know if it is related to my sulfite sensitivity or what. I know t3 total is different from Ft3 but I don't know what the difference is. If someone can tell me, that would be helpful. Gracia, do you know what you t3 total is? Also, if my ft4 is only 1.8, why is my t3 total so high? My Ft4 has not changed since July. Yet, my TSH and T3 total are changing. Don't know if any of this makes sense....just have questions. Venizia --- Recent Activity a.. 15New Members Visit Your Group Get cancer support Connect w/ others find help & share Healthy Cooking on A place for parents to share their ideas. Moderator Central Connecting a world of moderators. . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Roni, I don't see anything in the thyroid numbers alone that would trigger a-fib, but the lasix/potassium could, especially if you become dehydrated. Chuck > > > Here are my results before I had the two Atrial > Fibrillation episodes: > > T-Uptake 29% 24-39 > > T-4Thyroxine 6ugdl 4.5-12.0 > > T4-T Uptake indx 1.7 1.2-4.9 > > T3 155 85-205 > > TSH 0.011 .035-5.50 > > Thyroxine free 0.88 o.61-1.76 > > Free T3 3.2 2.3-4.2 > > What do you think Chuck? By the way, I cut out > caffeine (coffee and chocolate) since the episodes. I > just saw my doctor Wednesday, and he said Chocolate is > good for you. Anyway, I haven't had an episode of > fibrillations since about two weeks after the episodes > that put me into the hospital twice. > > I was taking Cartia XL for the pressure, and Sunday > night reacted to it with huge hives on my torso, so I > had to stop that medication. I brought him a record of > my pressures for 10 days previous, and it showed that > the pressures were essentially the same with the > medication and without it. For now I'm only taking > furosemide 20 with 99 mgs of potassium, and I have cut > down on salt. > > Roni > > __________________________________________________________ > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. > http://autos./new_cars.html <http://autos./new_cars.html> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Venizia- You are sooo funny, lol! First cousins, really? In a message dated 10/11/07 9:12:12 AM, nelsonck@... writes: > All my doctors say the same thing. Funny you should say that. Don't know > what the > common denominator is but something is making me unique. Maybe it's because > my > grandparents were first cousins. Our family often wonders about that. > They even got > special dispensation from the Pope to marry!! Oh yeh, good old grandma and > grandpa. > > Venizia > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Is there anything I could do to prevent that. The pressure is still bounding around, and I have to do something. I am so leery about taking another medication for the pressure. I have a very long history of becoming allergic to medication, beginning with penicillin in my 20s necessitating epinephrine into the heart. Roni --- Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: > Roni, > > I don't see anything in the thyroid numbers alone > that would trigger > a-fib, but the lasix/potassium could, especially if > you become dehydrated. > > Chuck > > > > > > > Here are my results before I had the two Atrial > > Fibrillation episodes: > > > > T-Uptake 29% 24-39 > > > > T-4Thyroxine 6ugdl 4.5-12.0 > > > > T4-T Uptake indx 1.7 1.2-4.9 > > > > T3 155 85-205 > > > > TSH 0.011 .035-5.50 > > > > Thyroxine free 0.88 o.61-1.76 > > > > Free T3 3.2 2.3-4.2 > > > > What do you think Chuck? By the way, I cut out > > caffeine (coffee and chocolate) since the > episodes. I > > just saw my doctor Wednesday, and he said > Chocolate is > > good for you. Anyway, I haven't had an episode of > > fibrillations since about two weeks after the > episodes > > that put me into the hospital twice. > > > > I was taking Cartia XL for the pressure, and > Sunday > > night reacted to it with huge hives on my torso, > so I > > had to stop that medication. I brought him a > record of > > my pressures for 10 days previous, and it showed > that > > the pressures were essentially the same with the > > medication and without it. For now I'm only taking > > furosemide 20 with 99 mgs of potassium, and I have > cut > > down on salt. > > > > Roni > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at > Autos. > > http://autos./new_cars.html > <http://autos./new_cars.html> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - > Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 Chuck, Why wouldn't her TSH numbers cause a-fib? She is hyperT according to those numbers. Venizia > > Roni, > > I don't see anything in the thyroid numbers alone that would trigger > a-fib, but the lasix/potassium could, especially if you become dehydrated. > > Chuck > > > > > > > Here are my results before I had the two Atrial > > Fibrillation episodes: > > > > T-Uptake 29% 24-39 > > > > T-4Thyroxine 6ugdl 4.5-12.0 > > > > T4-T Uptake indx 1.7 1.2-4.9 > > > > T3 155 85-205 > > > > TSH 0.011 .035-5.50 > > > > Thyroxine free 0.88 o.61-1.76 > > > > Free T3 3.2 2.3-4.2 > > > > What do you think Chuck? By the way, I cut out > > caffeine (coffee and chocolate) since the episodes. I > > just saw my doctor Wednesday, and he said Chocolate is > > good for you. Anyway, I haven't had an episode of > > fibrillations since about two weeks after the episodes > > that put me into the hospital twice. > > > > I was taking Cartia XL for the pressure, and Sunday > > night reacted to it with huge hives on my torso, so I > > had to stop that medication. I brought him a record of > > my pressures for 10 days previous, and it showed that > > the pressures were essentially the same with the > > medication and without it. For now I'm only taking > > furosemide 20 with 99 mgs of potassium, and I have cut > > down on salt. > > > > Roni > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. > > http://autos./new_cars.html <http://autos./new_cars.html> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 you've cut down on salt? so you have cut down on the tiny miniscule amount of iodine in your diet? salt is also good for adrneal glands. My very high bp came down with hormones! Gracia Here are my results before I had the two Atrial Fibrillation episodes: T-Uptake 29% 24-39 T-4Thyroxine 6ugdl 4.5-12.0 T4-T Uptake indx 1.7 1.2-4.9 T3 155 85-205 TSH 0.011 .035-5.50 Thyroxine free 0.88 o.61-1.76 Free T3 3.2 2.3-4.2 What do you think Chuck? By the way, I cut out caffeine (coffee and chocolate) since the episodes. I just saw my doctor Wednesday, and he said Chocolate is good for you. Anyway, I haven't had an episode of fibrillations since about two weeks after the episodes that put me into the hospital twice. I was taking Cartia XL for the pressure, and Sunday night reacted to it with huge hives on my torso, so I had to stop that medication. I brought him a record of my pressures for 10 days previous, and it showed that the pressures were essentially the same with the medication and without it. For now I'm only taking furosemide 20 with 99 mgs of potassium, and I have cut down on salt. Roni __________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. http://autos./new_cars.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2007 I cut down because the cardiologist said I should. He also said to take the Cartia XT, however, my BP this evening was 118/80 with 70 heart rate, and I haven't taken the medication since Sunday night, and today is Thursday. The swelling in my ankles, face, arms and legs has gone down too. It hasn't been that low for a long time. Roni --- Gracia <circe@...> wrote: > > you've cut down on salt? so you have cut down on > the tiny miniscule amount of iodine in your diet? > salt is also good for adrneal glands. My very high > bp came down with hormones! > Gracia > > Here are my results before I had the two Atrial > Fibrillation episodes: > > T-Uptake 29% 24-39 > > T-4Thyroxine 6ugdl 4.5-12.0 > > T4-T Uptake indx 1.7 1.2-4.9 > > T3 155 85-205 > > TSH 0.011 .035-5.50 > > Thyroxine free 0.88 o.61-1.76 > > Free T3 3.2 2.3-4.2 > > What do you think Chuck? By the way, I cut out > caffeine (coffee and chocolate) since the > episodes. I > just saw my doctor Wednesday, and he said > Chocolate is > good for you. Anyway, I haven't had an episode of > fibrillations since about two weeks after the > episodes > that put me into the hospital twice. > > I was taking Cartia XL for the pressure, and > Sunday > night reacted to it with huge hives on my torso, > so I > had to stop that medication. I brought him a > record of > my pressures for 10 days previous, and it showed > that > the pressures were essentially the same with the > medication and without it. For now I'm only taking > furosemide 20 with 99 mgs of potassium, and I have > cut > down on salt. > > Roni > > > __________________________________________________________ > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at > Autos. > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - > Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2007 For resting heart rate: newborn infants; 100 to 160 beats per minute children 1 to 10 years; 70 to 120 beats per minute children over 10 and adults (including seniors); 60 to 100 beats per minute well-trained athletes; 40 to 60 beats per minute In a message dated 10/12/2007 10:56:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sweetnwright@... writes: That reminds me, what is a normal heart rate? Mine was 83 at walmart the other night. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2007 That reminds me, what is a normal heart rate? Mine was 83 at walmart the other night. -- Re: tests I cut down because the cardiologist said I should. He also said to take the Cartia XT, however, my BP this evening was 118/80 with 70 heart rate, and I haven't taken the medication since Sunday night, and today is Thursday. The swelling in my ankles, face, arms and legs has gone down too. It hasn't been that low for a long time. Roni --- Gracia <circe@...> wrote: > > you've cut down on salt? so you have cut down on > the tiny miniscule amount of iodine in your diet? > salt is also good for adrneal glands. My very high > bp came down with hormones! > Gracia > > Here are my results before I had the two Atrial > Fibrillation episodes: > > T-Uptake 29% 24-39 > > T-4Thyroxine 6ugdl 4.5-12.0 > > T4-T Uptake indx 1.7 1.2-4.9 > > T3 155 85-205 > > TSH 0.011 .035-5.50 > > Thyroxine free 0.88 o.61-1.76 > > Free T3 3.2 2.3-4.2 > > What do you think Chuck? By the way, I cut out > caffeine (coffee and chocolate) since the > episodes. I > just saw my doctor Wednesday, and he said > Chocolate is > good for you. Anyway, I haven't had an episode of > fibrillations since about two weeks after the > episodes > that put me into the hospital twice. > > I was taking Cartia XL for the pressure, and > Sunday > night reacted to it with huge hives on my torso, > so I > had to stop that medication. I brought him a > record of > my pressures for 10 days previous, and it showed > that > the pressures were essentially the same with the > medication and without it. For now I'm only taking > furosemide 20 with 99 mgs of potassium, and I have > cut > down on salt. > > Roni > > > __________________________________________________________ > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at > Autos. > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - > Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2007 Roni, Your doctor can check your potassium levels. You should work closely on this. I assume you are monitoring your own pressure, right? Be sure to drink water. That will tend to adjust numbers back to the normal range. Chuck > > > Is there anything I could do to prevent that. The > pressure is still bounding around, and I have to do > something. I am so leery about taking another > medication for the pressure. I have a very long > history of becoming allergic to medication, beginning > with penicillin in my 20s necessitating epinephrine > into the heart. > > Roni > > --- Chuck B <gumboyaya@... <mailto:gumboyaya%40cox.net>> wrote: > > > Roni, > > > > I don't see anything in the thyroid numbers alone > > that would trigger > > a-fib, but the lasix/potassium could, especially if > > you become dehydrated. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my results before I had the two Atrial > > > Fibrillation episodes: > > > > > > T-Uptake 29% 24-39 > > > > > > T-4Thyroxine 6ugdl 4.5-12.0 > > > > > > T4-T Uptake indx 1.7 1.2-4.9 > > > > > > T3 155 85-205 > > > > > > TSH 0.011 .035-5.50 > > > > > > Thyroxine free 0.88 o.61-1.76 > > > > > > Free T3 3.2 2.3-4.2 > > > > > > What do you think Chuck? By the way, I cut out > > > caffeine (coffee and chocolate) since the > > episodes. I > > > just saw my doctor Wednesday, and he said > > Chocolate is > > > good for you. Anyway, I haven't had an episode of > > > fibrillations since about two weeks after the > > episodes > > > that put me into the hospital twice. > > > > > > I was taking Cartia XL for the pressure, and > > Sunday > > > night reacted to it with huge hives on my torso, > > so I > > > had to stop that medication. I brought him a > > record of > > > my pressures for 10 days previous, and it showed > > that > > > the pressures were essentially the same with the > > > medication and without it. For now I'm only taking > > > furosemide 20 with 99 mgs of potassium, and I have > > cut > > > down on salt. > > > > > > Roni > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at > > Autos. > > > http://autos./new_cars.html > <http://autos./new_cars.html> > > <http://autos./new_cars.html > <http://autos./new_cars.html>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - > > Release Date: 10/11/2007 3:09 PM > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > <http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1066 - Release Date: 10/12/2007 11:10 AM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2007 I'm not exactly sure about the " correct heart rate " I think it varies from person to person and to what is going on. I discovered that there is some iodine in my multi pill, so I'm getting 150 mcg in that, plus whatever salt I do consume, and I'm sure it's not miniscule, as I do like it. In addition there is sodium in meat and other natural foods, so I'm getting some there too. Roni --- Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: > That reminds me, what is a normal heart rate? Mine > was 83 at walmart the > other night. > > -- Re: tests > > I cut down because the cardiologist said I should. > He > also said to take the Cartia XT, however, my BP this > evening was 118/80 with 70 heart rate, and I haven't > taken the medication since Sunday night, and today > is > Thursday. The swelling in my ankles, face, arms and > legs has gone down too. > > It hasn't been that low for a long time. > > Roni > > --- Gracia <circe@...> wrote: > > > > > you've cut down on salt? so you have cut down on > > the tiny miniscule amount of iodine in your diet? > > salt is also good for adrneal glands. My very high > > bp came down with hormones! > > Gracia > > > > Here are my results before I had the two Atrial > > Fibrillation episodes: > > > > T-Uptake 29% 24-39 > > > > T-4Thyroxine 6ugdl 4.5-12.0 > > > > T4-T Uptake indx 1.7 1.2-4.9 > > > > T3 155 85-205 > > > > TSH 0.011 .035-5.50 > > > > Thyroxine free 0.88 o.61-1.76 > > > > Free T3 3.2 2.3-4.2 > > > > What do you think Chuck? By the way, I cut out > > caffeine (coffee and chocolate) since the > > episodes. I > > just saw my doctor Wednesday, and he said > > Chocolate is > > good for you. Anyway, I haven't had an episode of > > fibrillations since about two weeks after the > > episodes > > that put me into the hospital twice. > > > > I was taking Cartia XL for the pressure, and > > Sunday > > night reacted to it with huge hives on my torso, > > so I > > had to stop that medication. I brought him a > > record of > > my pressures for 10 days previous, and it showed > > that > > the pressures were essentially the same with the > > medication and without it. For now I'm only taking > > furosemide 20 with 99 mgs of potassium, and I have > > cut > > down on salt. > > > > Roni > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at > > Autos. > > http://autos./new_cars.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - > > Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet > in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2007 Venizia, You wrote: > > Why wouldn't her TSH numbers cause a-fib? She is hyperT according to > those numbers. Very slightly. Note that her reference range is different. The bottom she gave was 0.03, in which case, 0.011 is not very low. However, if that was a typo, and the real range was more like 0.3 - 5, then yes, that could be causing palpitations. None of the thyroxine levels seemed consistent with hyperT, since they were all within the range cited. Atrial fibrillation can be caused by diseased valves, hypertension, coronary artery disease, alcohol use, pericarditis, cardiac surgery, heart failure, and lots of other heart disorders, including electrolyte imbalance, in addition to hyperT. The hyperT has to be fairly pronounced, though, unless it is combined with one or more of those other causes. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2007 , I am not kidding! :( Venizia > > Venizia- > > You are sooo funny, lol! First cousins, really? > > In a message dated 10/11/07 9:12:12 AM, nelsonck@... writes: > > > All my doctors say the same thing. Funny you should say that. Don't know > > what the > > common denominator is but something is making me unique. Maybe it's because > > my > > grandparents were first cousins. Our family often wonders about that. > > They even got > > special dispensation from the Pope to marry!! Oh yeh, good old grandma and > > grandpa. > > > > Venizia > > > > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2007 I just checked my lab report again, and the TSH range is o.35-5.50. Please reevaluate this for me. I don't know if I typed it wrong the first time. Roni --- Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: > Venizia, > > You wrote: > > > > Why wouldn't her TSH numbers cause a-fib? She is > hyperT according to > > those numbers. > > Very slightly. Note that her reference range is > different. The bottom > she gave was 0.03, in which case, 0.011 is not very > low. However, if > that was a typo, and the real range was more like > 0.3 - 5, then yes, > that could be causing palpitations. None of the > thyroxine levels seemed > consistent with hyperT, since they were all within > the range cited. > > Atrial fibrillation can be caused by diseased > valves, hypertension, > coronary artery disease, alcohol use, pericarditis, > cardiac surgery, > heart failure, and lots of other heart disorders, > including electrolyte > imbalance, in addition to hyperT. The hyperT has to > be fairly > pronounced, though, unless it is combined with one > or more of those > other causes. > > Chuck > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2007 Chuck, Thanks for the clarification. Venizia > > > > Why wouldn't her TSH numbers cause a-fib? She is hyperT according to > > those numbers. > > Very slightly. Note that her reference range is different. The bottom > she gave was 0.03, in which case, 0.011 is not very low. However, if > that was a typo, and the real range was more like 0.3 - 5, then yes, > that could be causing palpitations. None of the thyroxine levels seemed > consistent with hyperT, since they were all within the range cited. > > Atrial fibrillation can be caused by diseased valves, hypertension, > coronary artery disease, alcohol use, pericarditis, cardiac surgery, > heart failure, and lots of other heart disorders, including electrolyte > imbalance, in addition to hyperT. The hyperT has to be fairly > pronounced, though, unless it is combined with one or more of those > other causes. > > Chuck > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
