Fasting

July 12, 1999

In a message dated 7/12/99 8:13:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, matzelle@...

writes:

<< Anyway one of the things they suggest is a fast-

I have never done this before- Any recommendations on how to go about

it- What liquid drinks to have-..etc how long?

>>

Hi ,

I fasted one time for 9 days on only grape juice and water. Last 2 days I

didn't want any juice and on the 9th day I didn't want water. Scary. I

immediately broke the fast.

I did feel better during the fast. THE REASON: During a fast your body

produces more cortisone. Also during a fast you are burning off muscle

including heart muscle. IMHO it is not a very good idea. I would never do

it again.

Anita

RA 26 years, Fibro, AP 17 months

July 13, 1999

,

I too tried fasting--a clinic in Cleveland, OH--the Dr said it was the only

cure for arthritis. I fasted on water for 15days and lost from 100lbs to

85lbs. It was absolutely nuts, as I really think the doctor was

looney--people have died in his clinic. He then started you on raw fruits and

vegetables. Two problems--elimination must be controlled (which he did

nothing about watching that) and breaking a long water fast can make a person

very sick unless the right types of foods are used. Raw vegetables are too

much. I was in less pain--off all meds--prednisone and NSAID's. Unfortunately

I lost so much muscle and weight that it exacerbated my condition.

Moral--Starvation really isn't the answer.

But on a brighter side, fasting short lengths of time 1-3 days is supposed to

be healthy (some are fruit juice fasts, water, etc). There are all kinds of

books on it--if you go long term (more than a couple days)--have a

knowledgeable health professional.

L

In a message dated 99-07-12 21:56:06 EDT, you write:

<< << Anyway one of the things they suggest is a fast-

I have never done this before- Any recommendations on how to go about

it- What liquid drinks to have-..etc how long?

>>

Hi ,

I fasted one time for 9 days on only grape juice and water. Last 2 days I

didn't want any juice and on the 9th day I didn't want water. Scary. I

immediately broke the fast.

I did feel better during the fast. THE REASON: During a fast your body

produces more cortisone. Also during a fast you are burning off muscle

including heart muscle. IMHO it is not a very good idea. I would never do

it again.

Anita

RA 26 years, Fibro, AP 17 months >>

February 26, 2000

ken, I have been observing this message board for a number of months.

Needless to say, I, like many others have patiently tolerated your

utter lack of decorum,not to mention, the horrendous writing skills,

possibly with the idea that the intentions were well meant. As I

recall, this message board is for the discussion and furtherment of

Hulda s methodologies, which is not limited to, in any event

fasting, and which, by the way, also includes the gallstone flush,

which appears to have had benefits for many. Just the concept of

fasting alone stikes me as rediculous to think that it could possibly

prevent and/or cure all conditions. In saying this, I am not refuting

the possible benefits of responsible fasting. I'm merely saying we

owe it to ourselves and each other to keep an open mind. Also, for

the sake of our readers, please refrain from the vulgarities in the

future, as it is extremely unpleasant reading material, as well, it

detracts from whatever statement you are attempting to make.

sincerely, ray.

February 26, 2000

On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 14:03:03 -0000 " ray c " <wrayc@...> writes:

> From: " ray c " <wrayc@...>

>

> ken, I have been observing this message board for a number of months.

> Needless to say, I, like many others have patiently tolerated your

> utter lack of decorum,not to mention, the horrendous writing skills,

> possibly with the idea that the intentions were well meant. As I

> recall, this message board is for the discussion and furtherment of

> Hulda s methodologies, which is not limited to, in any event

> fasting, and which, by the way, also includes the gallstone flush,

> which appears to have had benefits for many. Just the concept of

> fasting alone stikes me as rediculous to think that it could possibly

> prevent and/or cure all conditions. In saying this, I am not refuting

> the possible benefits of responsible fasting. I'm merely saying we

> owe it to ourselves and each other to keep an open mind. Also, for

> the sake of our readers, please refrain from the vulgarities in the

> future, as it is extremely unpleasant reading material, as well, it

> detracts from whatever statement you are attempting to make.

> sincerely, ray.

>

> Ray,

If you and Bill Ross want to suffer a fool, you have the constitutional

right to do so. I long ago developed the practice of deleting, unread,

any e-mail that comes on my screen that is sent by Ken Boychuk. Anything

of value that he might have to say is not worth defiling your mind by

wading through the garbage he spews.

Gordon

February 28, 2000

top of the morning to u........all i can tell u is about my own

experience......im not a religious person .....as a matter of fact im anti

religion......having said that......im also the guy that went to india twice

to see sai baba.....im quite spiritual........anyway the way i see most

religious things.......their rituals seldom comply with natural laws......so

i avoid them if i come to a leap of faith situation........i rather like to

follow common sense.......so since i dont feel hungry in the morning i wont

eat then...........and i dislike going to bed with a full stomach so i wont

eat then either........my starting point with the theory of fasting was with

arnold ehret's books .....rational fasting and the mucusless diet healing

system.....hes one of the trail breakers ......since reading his stuff over

several times ive embraced his method to the tune of at least

95%..........there r many others on the net and in book

stores..........linda hazzard is on the net at soilandhealth.org......and if

u search http://www.healthy.net there is a lot of fasting info

there........anyway my way is to waterfast with a little lemon juice in the

water.....take gut tolerance levels of vit c on the days that i dont have a

colonic and i try to have a colonic on every third day of fasting.......i

started in early jan.......1 day fast ....1 day food.......1 1/2 day

fast......1 1/2 day food...........and inched my way up......... as we speak

im on a 6 1/2 day fast.....so thats it .........hope it is of assistance to

u....... ken

re: fasting

> ** High Priority **

>

> Hi Ken,

>

> I hail from the southern most tip of Africa, excatly where the two

> oceans ( indian & atlantic) meet,

> a city named Cape Town. An ex president , Mandela !!.

>

> Ken, I share your passion about fasting and believe in fasting to get

> rid of all the toxins, " illnesses " etc.

> I am an arthiritis sufferer and have been told by my doctor to

> immediately go on a diet in order to lose 20kg

> I am definitely going to go the fasting way, but i need some assistance

> wrt which fast to follow.

> perhaps you are able to give me an idea.

> I thought of following one of the religious fasts where you eat in the

> morning before dawn and then break the fast

> early evening. you are allowed to eat anything, but obviously welll

> balanced. After 2/3 days your stomach is shrunk to such an extent that

> you now are not able to eat alot once you have broken your fast.

> anyway , thanks until i hear from you again.

> Zainab

>

February 28, 2000