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hmmm thats not good. I guess it just doesnt work on all but it sure helped

Rudy. He must have been in icu ten or more times the six years before and

only once in the eight years since and then it had nothing to do with his

lungs or sinus's. I wish you the best of luck and I totally empathiz with

you. It is absolutely no fun. Our big deal now is watching Rudy's blood

pressure because of his meds. His first day on them it went down to 90/60

which is purdy dern low!!! School nurse was having fits!! lol He's been on

new meds for about 10 days now though so he's pretty regulated now. He was

so proud on Thanksgiving because he got a full shave done (by me) and some

aftershave like a big boy. We went out to eat with a bunch of family and the

waitress thought he was under 12!! Poor baby tries so hard to be a " big guy "

but the world wont let him. He's going to be (they are) 14 in just five days

and it is hard to put the age with the body! is blossoming so much

and looks so grown up that absolutely no one believes they are twins any

more. Oh well, such is life.

mom to Rudy (ds) & 13 & TJ 17

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We're dealing with Vinnie's runny/stuffy nose too!

He only went to school 25 out of 44 days the first quarter and this quarter

is probably going to be worse!

I just can't send him when he's not feeling good, he's not running a fever.

The last time (about a month ago)we took him to the doctor, she said to just

keep giving the Albuterol. I took him off that and started giving him over

the counter medicine. It's just not helping enough!! Poor little guy is

having trouble sleeping.

We all had a great Thanksgiving. We didn't cook because my husband has been

working 7 days a week and Thursday was his only day off. We visited at my

parents house, then meet his Mom & sister for buffet.

We also put up our Christmas tree on Thanksgiving. I know! WAY too early for

me, but we had to do it.

Vinnie wants a slide for Christmas, he uses anything as a slide and says

" EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE "

Sloan wants a tent and a latter (just kidding) but she is still climbing on

everything! The other day she got herself up on kitchen counter, in the

cabinet, got a bowl and her own snack! I asked her how she got it, she said

" Meya " (me ya) she used to call herself " me me "

Hope everyones noses clear up SOON

~, moma to Bubby & Meya {2 1/2}

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,

Both of my girls had their tonsils and adnoids removed

in Sept. It has helped some. She has had 2

snotty noses since then but they cleared up within a

couple of days. Hannah though, has had 3 or 4. It last

up to 2 weeks and the drainage is always thick and

green. It's like she never had her tonsils and adnoids

removed!

Pam

--- lesfevr21@... wrote:

> As I have mentioned in the past, Rudy's " miracle "

> cure for all of his runny

> nose & pneumonia bouts (too many to count) came when

> he was six and I had his

> adnoids removed. Since that time (eight years!!) he

> literally has not had a

> cold, much less pneumonia. He will occasionally get

> a bit of a runny nose

> but it only lasts a day, maybe two but nothing

> requiring any medications. I

> am a HUGE advocate for having the adnoids removed.

> As was told to me by the

> specialist at Driscoll Childrens Hospital, the germs

> lay dormant on the

> adnoids while the child is on antibiotics then after

> the 10-day round is done

> it only takes 2-7 days for them to reawaken. If

> there are no adnoids they

> get flushed out more efficiently. Since our kids

> tend to have the much

> smaller nasal passages the adnoids literally fill up

> that narrow space. Ok,

> I'll jump off the box now. Happy Holidays to you

> all.

> mom to Rudy (ds) & 13 (14 in 5

> days!) & TJ 17

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I have to agree about the adenoids, was so nasally and had

aconstant runny nose last winter. We got her adenoids removed in

February and so far this year (knock on every wood product) she has

not had a constant runny nose, which in turns has kept her face from

drying out and getting a nasty rash on it. Who knows but it has

seemed to do the trick.

Diane Mom to Adam, and

> As I have mentioned in the past, Rudy's " miracle " cure for all of

his runny

> nose & pneumonia bouts (too many to count) came when he was six and

I had his

> adnoids removed. Since that time (eight years!!) he literally has

not had a

> cold, much less pneumonia. He will occasionally get a bit of a

runny nose

> but it only lasts a day, maybe two but nothing requiring any

medications. I

> am a HUGE advocate for having the adnoids removed. As was told to

me by the

> specialist at Driscoll Childrens Hospital, the germs lay dormant on

the

> adnoids while the child is on antibiotics then after the 10-day

round is done

> it only takes 2-7 days for them to reawaken. If there are no

adnoids they

> get flushed out more efficiently. Since our kids tend to have the

much

> smaller nasal passages the adnoids literally fill up that narrow

space. Ok,

> I'll jump off the box now. Happy Holidays to you all.

> mom to Rudy (ds) & 13 (14 in 5 days!) & TJ 17

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Hi Pam! And everyone!

Here's a thought about the " noses " It might sound too simple, but, how

about just increasing their fluids, esp with OJ and lots of vitamin C,

how about a little of echinacea drops in their juice???? My twins and

older two for that matter, have had some kind of " nose " going on and

that's what I've been doing, seems to help! Just my two cents! :)

Gail...........Bobby 6 1/2, Jillian 4, and Tara{Ds} 20 months

>

> Hi Everyone,

> How are all of you doing? Did you have a good holiday?

> We all ate too much as usual. :)

> How are all of your kids doing? Mine, especially

> Hannah, has had a snotty nose for about two weeks now.

> I thought having their T & A taken out would help all of

> that. Is there anything else we can do for that?

> Allergy testing? I don't know. I know I am tired of

> having to wipe the nose every 10 minutes or so. And

> poor Hannah, I know she is tired of it too. I know how

> I would feel if I was all clogged up most of my life.

> These poor kids! There has to be an answer for it.

> Are you all getting ready for the Christmas holiday? I

> think it will be a busy one around here this year.

> Well, I hope this finds everyone healthy and happy.

>

> =====

> Pam Mom to Identical twins Hannah (Hannah Banana), (Huggy Bear) age 5,

Josh 19 and Dusty 14

>

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Hi Pam,

Sorry to hear about Hannah's snotty nose....Nicki has been the same even

with a partial adenoidectomy!

All I do with Nicki is to try and avoid mucus forming foods. Cows milk is

one but the worst culprit is orange juice! Pear juice is the greatest then

apple juice.

The other thing I have discovered that helps with runny noses and chesty

conditions is Fenugreek Seed which comes in capsule form so I can break it

open and put the powder in something tasty.......smells ghastly but the

girls don't seem to mind too much!

I am just trying out Grape Seed Extract too which is supposed to be a

natural antibiotic......so far so good - Nicki's asthma like condition seems

to be getting better AT LAST!

Hope things improve!

Carolyn

Mum to on, , Emma (Ds) 4 and Nicki (Ds) 3

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Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the advice on the snotty noses! I did

put a humidifier in the girls room. I went and bought

a nother one that is alot quieter than the other one I

had. I also started giving the girls those gummy bear

vitamin c and echincia. Plus I give them a product

called body balance loaded with eveything you can

think of. All the aminio acids and minerals, with

added vitamins. It's really good. I have been taking

it too. The girls have a lot more energy since I

started them on it. Hannah is even talking more and

has been taking a few steps without holding on

to anything. Wow!!!!

Carolyn, I will have to give the grape seed extract a

try.

Wish me luck!

I hope all of yours are healthy.

Pam

--- Carolyn Sykes <tcsykes@...> wrote:

> Hi Pam,

>

> Sorry to hear about Hannah's snotty nose....Nicki

> has been the same even

> with a partial adenoidectomy!

>

> All I do with Nicki is to try and avoid mucus

> forming foods. Cows milk is

> one but the worst culprit is orange juice! Pear

> juice is the greatest then

> apple juice.

>

> The other thing I have discovered that helps with

> runny noses and chesty

> conditions is Fenugreek Seed which comes in capsule

> form so I can break it

> open and put the powder in something

> tasty.......smells ghastly but the

> girls don't seem to mind too much!

>

> I am just trying out Grape Seed Extract too which is

> supposed to be a

> natural antibiotic......so far so good - Nicki's

> asthma like condition seems

> to be getting better AT LAST!

>

> Hope things improve!

>

> Carolyn

> Mum to on, , Emma (Ds) 4 and Nicki (Ds)

> 3

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Barb

About the same time as you posted this message I was sending you a

private thank you for your welcome and offering to help if your

mother was on ropinirole - coincidence or what?

Are you sure of the dosage? I started off on .25 (1/4 milligram) 3

times a day.

I have to go and prepare food for my wife now but I'll prepare a

document and post it to the group tonight with details about

ropinirole

>

> How are you doing today? I asked my mother & she is also on

ropinirole 25mg. She started taking it about 10 days ago & hasn't

noticed any difference yet. Can you tell me about these medications?

(Ropinirole & Selegliline) What side effects they give you & how

these two medications are supposed to help with Parkinson's. Also,

can you tell me what tests they did for you to help with your

diagnoses? I would appreciate this info. as the doc. is still unsure

of her dx, but is treating her for Parkinson's. Any info would

help. Hope you have a great day! Thanks for listening. By the way,

the joke was great!

>

> Barb : )

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Pam: Where do you find " Body Balance " ?? Is it

expensive?

Judi-Mom to Sam & , almost 4! Identical Twins

--- Pam Houser <p_houser37@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> Thanks for all the advice on the snotty noses! I did

> put a humidifier in the girls room. I went and

> bought

> a nother one that is alot quieter than the other one

> I

> had. I also started giving the girls those gummy

> bear

> vitamin c and echincia. Plus I give them a product

> called body balance loaded with eveything you can

> think of. All the aminio acids and minerals, with

> added vitamins. It's really good. I have been taking

> it too. The girls have a lot more energy since I

> started them on it. Hannah is even talking more and

> has been taking a few steps without holding

> on

> to anything. Wow!!!!

> Carolyn, I will have to give the grape seed extract

> a

> try.

> Wish me luck!

> I hope all of yours are healthy.

>

> Pam

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> He also gave me a prescription for Trazodone. He said for people with

> Fibro it helps with the pain, and will help me sleep better. Has anyone

> ever heard it helping with Fibro pain? A tranquilizer?

I just met with my disability lawyer today and was given a printout

from the Internet that was on The Arthritis Foundations website about

Fibromyalgia. It states that many individuals with fibromyalgia feel sad or

down although only about 25 % are considered clinically depressed and that

some researchers think there is a link between fibromyalgia and certain

forms of depression and chronic anxiety. It also says that, however, any

person with a chronic illness -- not just fibromyalgia -- may feel depressed

at times while struggling with their pain and fatigue. It also says that

part of the treatment of fibromyalgia includes medications to diminish pain

and improve sleep. That last part seems to be your doctors reasoning in

prescribing the Trazodone.

> He would not even talk about doing an ACE test or any test for that

> matter.

The aforementioned article states " Fibromyalgia syndrome cannot be

diagnosed with laboratory tests. The results of X-rays, blood tests and

muscle biopsies look normal. Therefore, the diagnosis is based on a

clinical examination by a doctor of a person's symptoms. "

BTW, the copyright on this article is 2000, so, it should be pretty

much current.

> He wouldn't do the paperwork so the manufactures of my medicine would

> give it to me free.

I am sorry to hear that. However, I am happy to hear about your

hubby's new car, your new cell phone and (best of all!) your hubby's new job

complete with new paycheck.

T. aka Pegasus

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Barb,

This to will pass, you hang in there hon. I'm still praying for you and

always will be.

*gentle hugs*

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Hi Barb,

Cool to see you are gonna get IRC and come chat with us in the slapping er I mean chatting room.

Hope the tests went well and that the Job is good. Perhaps you will meet people who can help with your husband to find work?

Thinking of you - and dont over do it <BAWK>

Love Aisha

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Hi !

Glad you're back hon.

Hang in there, and know that we are all here for you. Don't worry about the

Christmas card thing...I kept your name on the list cuz I didn't know what had

happened to you. :-)

*hugs*

D Greco wrote:

> Hi all Hope you have had a very Merry Christmas. I

> have not been on lately due to the fact that I could

> not pay for my internet and phone line so I have had

> been disconnected. With no money it is hard for me to

> do anything.

>

> I want to thank those of you that sent me a Christmas

> Card. I was unable to send any out due to my financial

> problems, but I still get mail on an alternate email

> account and using a friends computer, so I am not on

> all the time.

>

> I am still sick, but things may be looking up. I had

> to reapply for public assistance and still waiting for

> social security. Will keep you all informed.

>

> Have a happy new year.

>

>

> aries_70460@...

> was greco31@...

>

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Hi Barb,

<<Ling--Sorry to hear about your headaches lately. I sure hope your latest therapy works for you. Hang in there.>>

Thanks. It is exactly one week after the block, and now I have problems turning my neck again....... ARRGGH!!! Hope the pain is not coming back so soon...

Ling

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Hi Carolyn,

I'm one of the newbies that have come on in the last month

and I just wanted to say that I wish you a wonderful

evening too. I hope that you are feeling well tonight and

if you aren't please know that you are always in my

thoughts.

Take care,

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Welcome Back, Kim--I look forward to hearing more about how everyone is doing.

Sounds like things are going very well.

Marcia

Mom to Sara (DS) and 6 and Lucas 10

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Welcome back Kim!

Glad you're back on-line!

Gail.........Bobby 7{next week}, Jillian 4 1/2, and Tara{DS} 21mos

>

> Hi all,

> I wanted to say hello to everyone. I sent a e-mail a few days ago and

> I don't know if it went through or not. I never received it in my

> e-mail. So I hope I don't repeat myself.

>

> I have had nothing but computer problems since May - June, I'm hoping

> they are all worked out now. I feel like a stranger because I haven't

> been around for a few months.

>

> I'm sorry to hear about little , You are in my prayers. There is a

> little star Angel in Heaven definately.

>

> , You, your Aunt, little Dylan and Nicala are in my prayers also.

> So much to happen at one time. Hang in there.

>

> Gail, you hang in there. Sometimes you need to take a me break.

>

> Everyone is doing ok here. Mikayla started Kindergarten this year at

> our church's school. She really likes it. This is the first year for

> it. I'm teaching there 2 days a week. I think I took on a little much

> this year, but I THINK I finally settled into a schedule. is

> doing wonderful. He is starting to talk now. He has said 2-3 word

> sentences. He has said; Me too MaMa, Me down MaMa. Last night he said;

> Night night Da. I am so excited about him talking. The other BIG news

> is he got his feeding tube out 4 days before his 3rd birthday!! After

> almost three years of tube feeding he caught on to eating and drinking

> and now he loves it! He eats more than Mikayla. at one meal. Abbi is

> doing good also. We are waiting for an opening at the Children's

> Center for speech therapy for her. She still isn't talking real well.

> It doesn't slow her down any in getting her point across though.

>

> Sorry to have gotten long on this. I am so exited about being back on

> line again. I hope to keep up this time.

>

> Kim mom to Abigail and (ds) - 3yrs and Mikayla - 5 1/2

>

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Kim, Hi... wanted to ask you how yall got to get the grasp of eating. Did he have other reson for not eating? We are trying so hard with Dayton, one week he does well the next he falls back even further. I am to the end of my whit. He will be 3 in June. Sure would be great to get it out before his b-day. So Happy for you and the tube is out and he is talking.

Sounds like your hands are full. Keep up the good work.

mom to 7(DS) and Dayton 31months(DS)

Hello

Hi all,

I wanted to say hello to everyone. I sent a e-mail a few days ago and I don't know if it went through or not. I never received it in my e-mail. So I hope I don't repeat myself.

I have had nothing but computer problems since May - June, I'm hoping they are all worked out now. I feel like a stranger because I haven't been around for a few months.

I'm sorry to hear about little , You are in my prayers. There is a little star Angel in Heaven definately.

, You, your Aunt, little Dylan and Nicala are in my prayers also. So much to happen at one time. Hang in there.

Gail, you hang in there. Sometimes you need to take a me break.

Everyone is doing ok here. Mikayla started Kindergarten this year at our church's school. She really likes it. This is the first year for it. I'm teaching there 2 days a week. I think I took on a little much this year, but I THINK I finally settled into a schedule. is doing wonderful. He is starting to talk now. He has said 2-3 word sentences. He has said; Me too MaMa, Me down MaMa. Last night he said; Night night Da. I am so excited about him talking. The other BIG news is he got his feeding tube out 4 days before his 3rd birthday!! After almost three years of tube feeding he caught on to eating and drinking and now he loves it! He eats more than Mikayla. at one meal. Abbi is doing good also. We are waiting for an opening at the Children's Center for speech therapy for her. She still isn't talking real well. It doesn't slow her down any in getting her point across though.

Sorry to have gotten long on this. I am so exited about being back on line again. I hope to keep up this time.

Kim mom to Abigail and (ds) - 3yrs and Mikayla - 5 1/2

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Hi Kim,

It is nice to hear from a new person. I am new to the group also, and have

boy/girl twins who are 14 months old. It sounds like great news about

getting his feeding tube out! You must be very excited about that. You

mentioned that Abbi doesn't speak very well yet. . . . do you know if there

is a specific reason, or is she just taking her time getting started?

has an ASD that will require surgery when she is 4 or 5, but other

than that is really healthy. I feel very lucky about that. Well, just a

quick note to say hello. I'm sure we'll hear more from each other as the

weeks go on. Congratulations getting back on line!! I'd love to see a

picture of your kids if you have one that you can send as an attachment.

Casey, mom to (DS) and , 14mo.

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Hi Kim! Glad to hear from you again. Hope your PC

troubles are all cleared up!

Great news about 's feeding tube. That's

awesome! Great news about his speech too. He sounds

like he's doing great! Hope you can get a spot for

Abbi at the speech center too. Were they preemies?

Is that the cause of her delay? Just curious!

Take care - hope to hear from you again soon!

Judi-Mom to Sam & , 4, Identical Twins

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is there a " chat spot " on the club site? Want to hang out on line for a bit

or do you want to get to sleep?

Casey, mom to (DS) and , 14 mo.

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Hi Judi!

Thank you, to you and everyone for the welcome back. It is so nice to be

back. I seem to have a little more time on my hands, not sure where it came

from but I'll take it!

Abbi and were born at 35 weeks. Abbi was first weighing 5lb 7oz and

was second weighing 6lb 2 oz. When they were in the special care

nursery had 3 hearing tests. They never gave Abbi one. I asked them

why and they told me she only met one of the criteria for a hearing test. I

didn't think to push the matter. I never thought she could have a hearing

delay. The thought never crossed our minds again until she hadn't started

talking by 2yrs. We thought it was a first child speaking for the second

child thing, but we realized that Mikayla wasn't talking for Abbi, she would

however translate for us. So we had both of their hearing tested a little

after they turned 2 and both of them had a moderate hearing loss, just under

the line for hearing aids. 's was cleared up from tubes. Abbi's they

think is from either birth or becasue she had 7 ear infections and numerous

times with fluid just between 5 months and 18 months old. We are waiting for

another hearing eval to be done again. Her speech has improved ALOT but it

is still slurred and her vocabulary is limited. Therapy was helping but we

couldn't continue where they were going because they have an age limit of 3

and the only other place I feel comfortable with is booked solid. So here we

wait!

Thanks for asking, I love to talk about my kids! Sorry to have written a

mini book. Got to get kids in bed. time slipped up on me!

Kim mom to Abbi and ds - 3 yrs and Mikayla - 5 1/2 yrs

Re: Hello

> Hi Kim! Glad to hear from you again. Hope your PC

> troubles are all cleared up!

> Great news about 's feeding tube. That's

> awesome! Great news about his speech too. He sounds

> like he's doing great! Hope you can get a spot for

> Abbi at the speech center too. Were they preemies?

> Is that the cause of her delay? Just curious!

> Take care - hope to hear from you again soon!

> Judi-Mom to Sam & , 4, Identical Twins

>

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