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dear deb thanks for help. I will be getting a shot cortisone in about a week.

which should help some on swelling and all. I've been told that probably my

knee will need to be drained. However, my dr. has not said that yet. I think

he just wants to wait and see what happens. I will probably check with another

one to be sure. Lin

debbywelty <no_reply > wrote:Hi Lin,

There are different types of running shoes - for different types of

activities and different feet. Personally, I wear because

they have good pronation control, and I pronote a lot. Try to get a

knowledgeable salesperson to help fit your shoes. My physical

therapist's office recommended a good store where the salespeople

know about foot and knee conditions and watch you walk in different

pairs of shoes. Another option is to buy a pair or two of shoes and

take them to your physical therapist for evaluation. You can return

them if they don't work out (just don't wear them outside).

Prolotherapy is a treatment to strengthen lax or damaged ligaments

and tendons. It can be very helpful IF your knee pain is caused by

loose or damaged ligaments/tendons. For example, if your ACL is

partially torn, prolo can rebuild it. IMHO, prolo is only as good as

the doctor doing it. Some docs just " inject where it hurts " , but

there's more to it than that. A good doc will look at your whole

body and search for the cause of the pain - which is sometimes far

away from the pain itself. There's good information on prolo on the

internet - try searching with google.com.

> > debbywelty:

> > i know it's not just one thing that will fix our problem... what

> worked for you? i'm getting pretty discouraged. i thought my

knees

> were getting better but they seem to have taken a turn for the

> worse. i have been doing lots of pt, yoga and strength training

as

> well as taking carsons fish oil. i know i've read some posts from

> folks who have seen osteopaths for this. we have a good one in

our

> area. i may try that. i have plans to climb el cap in yosemite

in

> june and i need to be able to carry the loads to the base of the

> cliff. any suggestions would be appreciated.

> > thanks, lisa

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Micah does this too! Not all the time but when he is quiet or laying down he

will sometimes just look at both hands and his fingers and spread them out

and be amazed by them. I don't necessarily think it means anything if there are

no other issues going on. I think he is just slowly REALLY discovering

himself. What does everyone else thik?

Loree

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My Emma does this as well! Not all the time but especially when she is

tired! She will also rub her fingers around ehr hands or her medic alert

bracelet when she is tired! WOW some of the things our kids have in common

just amaze me!

Colleen Stephansen

www.colleenschildcare.com

Mom to 3 wonderful kids - (almost 10 yrs), Emma (6 yrs with DS), and

Hannah (3 yrs going on 33)

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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:58 PM

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Hey I was wondering if this sounds familiar to anyone else? ,

as of lately, looks quickly at his left hand several times a day. He

holds it up in front of his face with his fingers kind of spread

apart and seems to be focused on a couple of his fingers. He " checks

them out " several times a day but it's a very quick thing, almost

like he's making sure they are still there but I don't think that's

what it is! Of course immediately I assume the worst. Do you think

it's just become a habit or do you think it's something I

should " investigate " ?

Thanks for your help.

Jayne

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Hi Kista,

I was always told that it was fine to work your abs daily.

Have a great day!!!

Love ya!!!

Liz

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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:38:39 -0500 Kista S Stamper <kistasue1@...>

writes:

Hi everyone. Can I get opinions on how often you can work abs? Every day?

Every other day?

Kista

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Hi Gail;

Hope you and are doing well. It is actually almost cold here in CA... We are having Fall like weather -- seventies in the day maybe with wind and cloudy afternoon and evenings....

It is quiet again. Is everyone OK (or at least hanging in there)?

I know the heat is bothering some of you but your PC is inside, isn't it?

Gail

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I'm doing okay. But only just. I got a recliner at a yard sale so

now I am sleeping better again. (I sleep better when I'm not flat.

It's a breathing thing.) And now I'll have a place to recover after

my surgery. Nice little corner with a table and the chair and the

remotes and my knitting.

Now we just have to work on air conditioning. We have an ozone alert

today and I'm already feeling it.

Bridget

> It is quiet again. Is everyone OK (or at least hanging in there)?

> I know the heat is bothering some of you but your PC is inside,

isn't it?

>

> Gail

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Bonnie,

I have been an aerobic breathing instructor for over 5 years now with another

breathing technique. When I teach people how to breathe I explain to them

that the reason we breathe through our nose is because it actually prepares the

air for your body.

Your nose acts in a way like a filter, it actually cleanses the air and it

also warms it to prepare it for your body.

If you have a cold you could do it through your mouth just fine. In the past

if I woke up with my nose really stuffed I would breathe slowler during the

inhale and it usually unplugged my nose over a few minutes.

Remember the key is oxygen not necessarily where it comes in from so

whatever works for you at the time is the best thing.

Keep up the great work, your body loves you for it!

<< Just a question -- why do we breathe in through the nose and not through

the mouth? Is there a reason? And if you have a stuffy nose, would mouth

breathing be as effective?

Just curious....

Bonnie >>

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Most likely is a K problem (with the cramps)-but not likely due to sweating

unless you lost 5 or 10 lbs. Be sure when they check your K that the do not

leave the tourniquet on and let blood flow freely before drawing and best to

measrue plasma potassium (without blood clotting) than serum K (clotted blood).

Clenching the fist with at tourn on will falsely increase the K as will

letting the blood stand too long before separating it or letting it clot if

there are too many platelets.

Next most likely thing is that your BP dropped with the exercise. Always take

your BP when this happens.

You might be able to simulate it by taking BP seated then standing for 1, 3 and

5 minutes with arm held a heart level, then push up and down on your toes at

least 10 times and recheck the BP.

Could also walk till you sweat and/or get dizzy and then check it.

In a message dated 10/18/2004 9:30:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, " bev2454 "

<bev2454@...> writes:

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>

>Hello everyone,

>We just returned from a delightful week in the Smokies, my favorite

>mountains. We had a great time, but while walking around with a

>friend(he was showing us his property and the views), I began sweating

>profusely. It wasn't a strenuous walk, just a little 30 minute

>meandering thru some wooded areas, a little up and down terrain, but

>nothing steep at all.

>

>I had checked my blood sugar prior to taking the walk, just as a

>precautionary measure(I'm diabetic), and I was feeling so weak by the

>time we got back I checked it again. It had dropped from 140 to 133,

>so I know it wasn't my blood sugar. Then the thought struck me, I was

>sweating so much, which I often do and always have, maybe it's my

>potassium. We went to the store and got some Gatorade, and I started

>sipping on it(I hate the stuff) I began feeling less weak, but it

>still took me a while to recover. So my question is.... is this what

>normally happens to any of you, and am I using the right approach by

>drinking Gatorade, or one of the other electrolyte drinks? Last check

>my potassium was up to 4.3. How quickly can it drop? Will the profuse

>sweating cause it to drop? Also, I keep having leg cramps, but also

>muscle cramps in my abdomen, especially if I stretch or twist to reach

>for something. It's almost like I become paralized there. Other than

>the muscle cramps, and sometimes feeling weak or tired, I'm feeling

>great!!! The dr. has increased my spiro to 50 mg twice a day.

>

>bev

>

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I sweat, but mainly at night, not all the time and it does fluctuate with my hormones. I often change my tee-shirt b/c it's sweaty.I am always COLD and only warm at night. I've asked mainy a doctor on this but they don't seem concerned. I am also hypoglycemic, does this seem to go hand in hand with Conn's? Anyone else out there with sugar problems? Good luck and stay hydrated, that's what they tell me!

Heidi

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Hello everyone,We just returned from a delightful week in the Smokies, my favoritemountains. We had a great time, but while walking around with afriend(he was showing us his property and the views), I began sweatingprofusely. It wasn't a strenuous walk, just a little 30 minutemeandering thru some wooded areas, a little up and down terrain, butnothing steep at all. I had checked my blood sugar prior to taking the walk, just as aprecautionary measure(I'm diabetic), and I was feeling so weak by thetime we got back I checked it again. It had dropped from 140 to 133,so I know it wasn't my blood sugar. Then the thought struck me, I wassweating so much, which I often do and always have, maybe it's mypotassium. We went to the store and got some Gatorade, and I startedsipping on it(I hate the stuff) I began feeling less weak, but itstill took me a while to recover. So my question is.... is this whatnormally happens to any of you, and am I using the right approach bydrinking Gatorade, or one of the other electrolyte drinks? Last checkmy potassium was up to 4.3. How quickly can it drop? Will the profusesweating cause it to drop? Also, I keep having leg cramps, but alsomuscle cramps in my abdomen, especially if I stretch or twist to reachfor something. It's almost like I become paralized there. Other thanthe muscle cramps, and sometimes feeling weak or tired, I'm feelinggreat!!! The dr. has increased my spiro to 50 mg twice a day. bev

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Conn's usually have more hyper glycemic. 's may get hypoglycemic.

Cant recall but seem you have had adrenal surgery.

Can you give more details on how the hypoglycemia was diagnosed.

Best way is to fast for 24 or 48 hours or until you pass out our nearly pass out and then get blood sugar.

Hypoglycemia is overdiagnosed.

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Thanks Dr. Grim, this makes sense about the BP, because I had noticed

it was lower at some point. It's not unusual for it to run about

110/70 now. I'm assuming it was the sodium in the Gatorade that made

me feel better, not the potassium, if it was truly my BP.....??

The girl that checks my potassium goes thru the vein inside my wrist.

She uses a " butterfly " because my veins aren't very cooperative. She

always takes the tourn. off as soon as she gets the needle in. Would

it be best if I offer to take the blood sample down to the lab myself?

Not sure that they would even allow it, but I could offer. Might get

it done faster....... just thinking out loud....

bev

> Most likely is a K problem (with the cramps)-but not likely due to

sweating unless you lost 5 or 10 lbs. Be sure when they check your K

that the do not leave the tourniquet on and let blood flow freely

before drawing and best to measrue plasma potassium (without blood

clotting) than serum K (clotted blood).

> Clenching the fist with at tourn on will falsely increase the K as

will letting the blood stand too long before separating it or letting

it clot if there are too many platelets.

>

>

> Next most likely thing is that your BP dropped with the exercise.

Always take your BP when this happens.

>

> You might be able to simulate it by taking BP seated then standing

for 1, 3 and 5 minutes with arm held a heart level, then push up and

down on your toes at least 10 times and recheck the BP.

>

> Could also walk till you sweat and/or get dizzy and then check it.

>

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How old is Lyssa?? I give my son melatonin capsules that are 1 milligram as

per ped. he is 9 years old>

Loree

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How old is Lyssa?? I give my son melatonin capsules that are 1 milligram as

per ped. he is 9 years old>

Loree

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I don't know the answer to your question, but if no one else answers you,

let me know and I will check with my husband who is a nurse.

We give my 13 year old son Melatonin everynight and it is working out very

well for him. Many kids with autism take Melatonin and thats where I learned

about it. It helps kids get to sleep, but does not seem to keep them asleep. If

your daughter has problems with waking up alot in the night, the Melatonin

probably won't help.

My son is a great sleeper but our problem was once he hit puberty, he

resisted going to bed. I mean, it turned into a *major* issue. My son is a kid

who

needs tons of sleep or it affects his cooperation. He was resisting going to bed

so bad that he was having lots of behavior issues during the day.

We give him a Melatonin supplement at about 6:30 and then he is sleepy and

ready to go to bed at 7:30. He has to get up at 6am for school.

Jodi

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I don't know the answer to your question, but if no one else answers you,

let me know and I will check with my husband who is a nurse.

We give my 13 year old son Melatonin everynight and it is working out very

well for him. Many kids with autism take Melatonin and thats where I learned

about it. It helps kids get to sleep, but does not seem to keep them asleep. If

your daughter has problems with waking up alot in the night, the Melatonin

probably won't help.

My son is a great sleeper but our problem was once he hit puberty, he

resisted going to bed. I mean, it turned into a *major* issue. My son is a kid

who

needs tons of sleep or it affects his cooperation. He was resisting going to bed

so bad that he was having lots of behavior issues during the day.

We give him a Melatonin supplement at about 6:30 and then he is sleepy and

ready to go to bed at 7:30. He has to get up at 6am for school.

Jodi

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Those of you who have their children on Meletonin:

Did your Dr. prescribe it?

Do you give it to them regularly? (As in, do you have to keep it on schedule

so it builds up in their system or can you just give it to them occassionally?

We were told to use this for our toddler who screams in his carseat when we

went on a 4,000 mile road trip this summer. We didn't, but I have been

interested in it since I heard about it.

Maverick usually goes to sleep fine, but is a very light sleeper and never

gets into that DEEP sleep that he needs..so he falls asleep in some of his

classes.

M.

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Those of you who have their children on Meletonin:

Did your Dr. prescribe it?

Do you give it to them regularly? (As in, do you have to keep it on schedule

so it builds up in their system or can you just give it to them occassionally?

We were told to use this for our toddler who screams in his carseat when we

went on a 4,000 mile road trip this summer. We didn't, but I have been

interested in it since I heard about it.

Maverick usually goes to sleep fine, but is a very light sleeper and never

gets into that DEEP sleep that he needs..so he falls asleep in some of his

classes.

M.

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Melatonin is a natural dietary supplement and is over the counter. Our

doctor wasn't the one who suggested it. I moderate an email list for parents of

children with autism in our county. The subject of Melatonin has come up several

times and I could not believe how many children were taking it to help with

sleeping. We were having so many problems last summer that I decided to try it

with my son. Over the summer we used it occassionally and it worked everytime.

Now that school is in session we are using it every night. It's important

for my son to get to bed at relatively the same time even on the weekends. Man,

our life is boring over here! So, I think it would be fine to just take it

occassionally.

What I have found and what other parents have told me is that is important to

find a brand that works well for your child. So far the brand that is working

the best for us is at RiteAid. It's called PharmAssure and is in a dark green

bottle. They are 3mg tablets. You can find them on the shelf where they have

all the vitamins and other supplements.

Jodi

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Melatonin is a natural dietary supplement and is over the counter. Our

doctor wasn't the one who suggested it. I moderate an email list for parents of

children with autism in our county. The subject of Melatonin has come up several

times and I could not believe how many children were taking it to help with

sleeping. We were having so many problems last summer that I decided to try it

with my son. Over the summer we used it occassionally and it worked everytime.

Now that school is in session we are using it every night. It's important

for my son to get to bed at relatively the same time even on the weekends. Man,

our life is boring over here! So, I think it would be fine to just take it

occassionally.

What I have found and what other parents have told me is that is important to

find a brand that works well for your child. So far the brand that is working

the best for us is at RiteAid. It's called PharmAssure and is in a dark green

bottle. They are 3mg tablets. You can find them on the shelf where they have

all the vitamins and other supplements.

Jodi

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When Breezy developed the sleep problem we tried Melatonin first but it was

of no help to her at all. She could go for seventy plus hours before falling

to sleep wherever we were. She had gotten large enough that that really was a

problem because I could no longer lift her. And if it was in school that she

finally crashed it was all over with for the day and I would have to go and

pick her up. Three years ago we went to a checkup with her pedi and asked for a

referral to see a Psychiatrist. I wanted to see if the sleep issue was

related to anything in our home life that may have triggered the problem. We

put

her on Trazadone an antidepressant which has the side effect of sleep, started

out with a low dose and have increased the amount over the years to allow for

her growth. When she gets her meds she is okay for about an hour or so and

then she sleeps really really hard and well. It is amazing how well she is to

wake up and how her behavior came along when she was rested. I am the last

person to jump on the med band wagon but if the effect of her attitude, behavior

and ability to concentrate and enjoy school is this much better than I have to

be glad that we made that decision.

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When Breezy developed the sleep problem we tried Melatonin first but it was

of no help to her at all. She could go for seventy plus hours before falling

to sleep wherever we were. She had gotten large enough that that really was a

problem because I could no longer lift her. And if it was in school that she

finally crashed it was all over with for the day and I would have to go and

pick her up. Three years ago we went to a checkup with her pedi and asked for a

referral to see a Psychiatrist. I wanted to see if the sleep issue was

related to anything in our home life that may have triggered the problem. We

put

her on Trazadone an antidepressant which has the side effect of sleep, started

out with a low dose and have increased the amount over the years to allow for

her growth. When she gets her meds she is okay for about an hour or so and

then she sleeps really really hard and well. It is amazing how well she is to

wake up and how her behavior came along when she was rested. I am the last

person to jump on the med band wagon but if the effect of her attitude, behavior

and ability to concentrate and enjoy school is this much better than I have to

be glad that we made that decision.

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In a message dated 11/18/2004 8:49:24 PM Central Standard Time,

reimeroo@... writes:

that is important to

find a brand that works well for your child.

Isn't Mealatonin, simply Melatonin. How would each brand be different?

Loree

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In a message dated 11/18/2004 8:49:24 PM Central Standard Time,

reimeroo@... writes:

that is important to

find a brand that works well for your child.

Isn't Mealatonin, simply Melatonin. How would each brand be different?

Loree

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In a message dated 11/18/2004 8:36:48 PM Central Standard Time,

Michdock@... writes:

Did your Dr. prescribe it?

I heard about mealatonin and questioned my ped. She said the research shows

it absolutely does aid sleep and to go ahead and give it to Caleb. She then

said " Why didn't i think of that for my son? " He has ADHD also and said she

was going to stop and pick some up.

I am going to a workshop onthe 29th where the guest speaker is Chief of

developmental and behavioral peds and director of the ADHD center, Schneider's

childrens hospital associate professor of Peds, Albert Einstein College of

medicine. I will ask him the question about sleeping and what we can do to

help? Any other questions you want me to ask??

Loree

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