Hello All

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Welcome back , well who cares how you spell, that is not a requirement of friendship Anne

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Hello Darkbeing, it is so good to hear from you. I think of you often. I am so glad that you are doing better. Don't you leave us anymore, ya hear. Welcome Back.

Hugs

Carolyn

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Hi Darkbeing ) Long time no see!!! How have you been doing!??!?! Some

people on here have been wondering where you went off to. Glad things are a

bit better for you and that you came back.

Jessi

Hello all

> hello all i used to be a member a long time ago and things got to bad

> for me to be able to keep up but i have been felling beter i am

> disalbled and i am in a wheel chair electrick one at that i also od

> have some problems with my lungs and heart and my joint some times it

> is very hard for me to type so i do nto know how often i talk but i

> always did love reading all hte wounderfull things that we said in

> suport of others in this list my old email addy was

> darkbeing@... but that is no more now i use the one that i

> regestered when i re joined i hope all are well and doing the best

> that cna be i know life cna be harsh for us at time but know this

> list and all in it have always been in my heart and always will be

> take care all till we chat agian and to you that may rember me it is

> nice to see you again and to thouse that joined scince i left i am

> glad to get to know you buy for now

>

> pps please excuse my spelling it is a sore spot with me cuse between

> my hands and my mind it is not that good i hope you all understand

>

> Darkbieng

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Welcome back DB>

Melinda

Hello all

> hello all i used to be a member a long time ago and things got to bad

> for me to be able to keep up but i have been felling beter i am

> disalbled and i am in a wheel chair electrick one at that i also od

> have some problems with my lungs and heart and my joint some times it

> is very hard for me to type so i do nto know how often i talk but i

> always did love reading all hte wounderfull things that we said in

> suport of others in this list my old email addy was

> darkbeing@... but that is no more now i use the one that i

> regestered when i re joined i hope all are well and doing the best

> that cna be i know life cna be harsh for us at time but know this

> list and all in it have always been in my heart and always will be

> take care all till we chat agian and to you that may rember me it is

> nice to see you again and to thouse that joined scince i left i am

> glad to get to know you buy for now

>

> pps please excuse my spelling it is a sore spot with me cuse between

> my hands and my mind it is not that good i hope you all understand

>

> Darkbieng

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Welcome back, Darkbeing [] !!!

Ling

Hello all

hello all i used to be a member a long time ago and things got to bad

for me to be able to keep up but i have been felling beter i am

disalbled and i am in a wheel chair electrick one at that i also od

have some problems with my lungs and heart and my joint some times it

is very hard for me to type so i do nto know how often i talk but i

always did love reading all hte wounderfull things that we said in

suport of others in this list my old email addy was

darkbeing@... but that is no more now i use the one that i

regestered when i re joined i hope all are well and doing the best

that cna be i know life cna be harsh for us at time but know this

list and all in it have always been in my heart and always will be

take care all till we chat agian and to you that may rember me it is

nice to see you again and to thouse that joined scince i left i am

glad to get to know you buy for now

pps please excuse my spelling it is a sore spot with me cuse between

my hands and my mind it is not that good i hope you all understand

Darkbieng

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Hi , ( Darkbeing )

Glad to see that you are up to reading your mail again )

Last I knew you were souping up your wheelchair ) How are your wife and children???

Glad to see ya back...

((( Welcoming Hugs )))

Helen

hello all i used to be a member a long time ago and things got to bad

for me to be able to keep up but i have been felling beter i am

disalbled and i am in a wheel chair electrick one at that i also od

have some problems with my lungs and heart and my joint some times it

is very hard for me to type so i do nto know how often i talk but i

always did love reading all hte wounderfull things that we said in

suport of others in this list my old email addy was

darkbeing@a... but that is no more now i use the one that i

regestered when i re joined i hope all are well and doing the best

that cna be i know life cna be harsh for us at time but know this

list and all in it have always been in my heart and always will be

take care all till we chat agian and to you that may rember me it is

nice to see you again and to thouse that joined scince i left i am

glad to get to know you buy for now

pps please excuse my spelling it is a sore spot with me cuse between

my hands and my mind it is not that good i hope you all understand

Darkbieng

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thank you i od nto plan on going any ware not for a long time i do hope that things are good with you i have not had time to read back a bit ot see waht has been going on i been doing a lot of sleeping nothing new in that area for me {smile} take care of your self

-----Original Message-----From: Faulkncs@... [mailto:Faulkncs@...]Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Hello allHello Darkbeing, it is so good to hear from you. I think of you often. I am so glad that you are doing better. Don't you leave us anymore, ya hear. Welcome Back.HugsCarolyn ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

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{smiles} thank you

Re: Hello all

Welcome back DB>

Melinda

Hello all

> hello all i used to be a member a long time ago and things got to bad

> for me to be able to keep up but i have been felling beter i am

> disalbled and i am in a wheel chair electrick one at that i also od

> have some problems with my lungs and heart and my joint some times it

> is very hard for me to type so i do nto know how often i talk but i

> always did love reading all hte wounderfull things that we said in

> suport of others in this list my old email addy was

> darkbeing@... but that is no more now i use the one that i

> regestered when i re joined i hope all are well and doing the best

> that cna be i know life cna be harsh for us at time but know this

> list and all in it have always been in my heart and always will be

> take care all till we chat agian and to you that may rember me it is

> nice to see you again and to thouse that joined scince i left i am

> glad to get to know you buy for now

>

> pps please excuse my spelling it is a sore spot with me cuse between

> my hands and my mind it is not that good i hope you all understand

>

> Darkbieng

>

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thank ya i got winter tires on it now lolol kneed the traction mind you this winter has nto been to much of one the kids and wife are doing well and say hi i talk ot you in a bit take care of you self till next time we chat {smile}

-----Original Message-----From: angelbear1129@... [mailto:angelbear1129@...]Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 1:15 AM Subject: Re:Hello AllHi , ( Darkbeing ) Glad to see that you are up to reading your mail again ) Last I knew you were souping up your wheelchair ) How are your wife and children??? Glad to see ya back... ((( Welcoming Hugs ))) Helen hello all i used to be a member a long time ago and things got to bad for me to be able to keep up but i have been felling beter i am disalbled and i am in a wheel chair electrick one at that i also od have some problems with my lungs and heart and my joint some times it is very hard for me to type so i do nto know how often i talk but i always did love reading all hte wounderfull things that we said in suport of others in this list my old email addy was darkbeing@a... but that is no more now i use the one that i regestered when i re joined i hope all are well and doing the best that cna be i know life cna be harsh for us at time but know this list and all in it have always been in my heart and always will be take care all till we chat agian and to you that may rember me it is nice to see you again and to thouse that joined scince i left i am glad to get to know you buy for now pps please excuse my spelling it is a sore spot with me cuse between my hands and my mind it is not that good i hope you all understand Darkbieng ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

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You have snow tires??? Now where in the world would you find such a thing for your wheelchair??? That's neat, as my grand daughter would say ) Till next time...

((( Warm Hugs )))

Helen

thank ya i got winter tires on it now lolol kneed the traction mind you this winter has nto been to much of one the kids and wife are doing well and say hi i talk ot you in a bit take care of you self till next time we chat {smile}

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Thanks Dawn,

As always many hugs your way. I must agree how wonderful we could ALL

connect, we are ALL SPECIAL as are prayers have been answered as we

all needed someone to EXACTLY understand and listen to us. Get this

we always receive FREE HUGS! What a Magical rollercoaster we are ALL

in, learning together. Take care.

Irma, 13,DS/ASD

> Just want to say, Happy Happy B-day !!!! How wonderful to be

> 12!! Also, Charlyne, hang in there, you are doing so well with all

> this and you have stayed on top of it so well, my thoughts and

> prayers are with you!! And Irma, still thinking and praying for you

> and test results, Love hearing all you are doing to help , you

> are precious, and speaking of helping each other, have to again say

> how impressed I am with this group, what fantastic advice and

> encouragement is givin, am so glad we have each other, God Bless,

> Dawn, 's mom

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Hello to all, just dropping a quick not to let you aall know that I have joined.

Very happy to see a site by Medic for Medic. Goodluck , carry on with the good

work.

Fraser ( Remote Site Medic)

PS Currently in then North Sea.

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Fraser hello and welcome to weird world of Medics online.

Where are you working for whom etc.

I am working for AMEC in the ChevronTexaco Captain Field.

regards

Kim Dellanzo-McHardy R.G.N./Medic

>From: Fraser cummings <frasercummings@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: RE: Hello All

>Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 23:37:50 +0100 (BST)

>

>

>Hello to all, just dropping a quick not to let you aall know that I have

>joined. Very happy to see a site by Medic for Medic. Goodluck , carry on

>with the good work.

>

>Fraser ( Remote Site Medic)

>

>

>

>PS Currently in then North Sea.

>

>

>

>---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Hi to everyone,

Just wanted to say hello to everyone at remote medics co uk.

I normally work offshore uk waters.

At the moment Im offshore Persian Gulf working for Shell,standing in for the

medic who has injured his knee while on shore leave.

good luck to everyone out there and thanks,

Mick Air

>From: " Kim Dellanzo " <kimdellanzo@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: RE: Hello All

>Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 06:26:54 +0000

>

>Fraser hello and welcome to weird world of Medics online.

>Where are you working for whom etc.

>I am working for AMEC in the ChevronTexaco Captain Field.

>regards

>Kim Dellanzo-McHardy R.G.N./Medic

>

>

> >From: Fraser cummings <frasercummings@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: RE: Hello All

> >Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 23:37:50 +0100 (BST)

> >

> >

> >Hello to all, just dropping a quick not to let you aall know that I have

> >joined. Very happy to see a site by Medic for Medic. Goodluck , carry

>on

> >with the good work.

> >

> >Fraser ( Remote Site Medic)

> >

> >

> >

> >PS Currently in then North Sea.

> >

> >

> >

> >---------------------------------

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi to everyone,

Just wanted to say hello to everyone at remote medics co uk.

I normally work offshore uk waters.

At the moment Im offshore Persian Gulf working for Shell,standing in for the

medic who has injured his knee while on shore leave.

good luck to everyone out there and thanks,

Mick Air

>From: " Kim Dellanzo " <kimdellanzo@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: RE: Hello All

>Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 06:26:54 +0000

>

>Fraser hello and welcome to weird world of Medics online.

>Where are you working for whom etc.

>I am working for AMEC in the ChevronTexaco Captain Field.

>regards

>Kim Dellanzo-McHardy R.G.N./Medic

>

>

> >From: Fraser cummings <frasercummings@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: RE: Hello All

> >Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 23:37:50 +0100 (BST)

> >

> >

> >Hello to all, just dropping a quick not to let you aall know that I have

> >joined. Very happy to see a site by Medic for Medic. Goodluck , carry

>on

> >with the good work.

> >

> >Fraser ( Remote Site Medic)

> >

> >

> >

> >PS Currently in then North Sea.

> >

> >

> >

> >---------------------------------

> >

[Guest guest]

Good morning Kim, firstly thanks for the email. I am about six miles SSW of

Norway. In the North Sea, I think the field is called or the area is Called

Vuking funney enough. The company that I work for is called Frontier Medical

Services. They seem an ok bunck, quite well organised regards information,

collecting tickets ect. Rota is Five wks on and 5 wks off, money is not bad

£160UK per day plus expenses but no pay on days off, whatever. Where in the

world are you, where are you from, how did you get involved with your company

and what made you go into this Let me know. Take care and safe seas.

All the best

Fraser ( ish )

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[Guest guest]

-am so thankful they are going to make transportation available to

you-for me it is so important to know i can get out. I do not drive

either so rely on the public bus system here. I am sorry you had that

encounter with the Dr. that you did-so discounting. I had the same

problem for 18 years until I moved from the small farm comunity I was in

and came to the city. I could hardly believe when they really cared here

and found out what was wrong. take gentle care. carol

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:19:27 -0400 " Darkbeing " <Darkbeing@...>

writes:

>

> well in september i finly be geting shutle service out my way so i

> be able

> ot get out of the house in my wheel chair i do nto own a van i whish

> i did

> ihave a few frinds that tryed to get one donated to me through a

> few

> companys out her they were willing till they found out i was a man

> and not a

> child to me i can not figure out the diference a child can not drive

> and i

> am a man with a child that to do anything with him i would kneed a

> van just

> like a child would kneed a van if he was to do anything with his dad

> so i

> thought that was kind of crule but i can not do a thing about it i

> just wate

> till iget servace this way i at least be able to get out some times

> to go

> into the city latly i been ill in bed 24/7 but i been trying ot get

> up

> anyway of late so dam tiring to do so i went a seen a new doc

> another morone

> for a docter he told me there was not a thing wrong with me and all

> my pain

> was in my head withouhg evan exzaming me i could have punched him in

> the

> head i was so dam mad i told my regler doc about the viset and he is

> who

> hapends to employ this new speclest well the new doc no longer has a

> job i

> was not hte only one to complane but i was the last i put the clinch

> on my

> doc deciding to fire him cuse my doc knowes me very well i do nto

> evna go to

> the doc when i ma sick i have to realy be felling very ill befor i

> go and at

> that i still od nto like going and my doc knows that so that he will

> be gone

> is a bit of brighting ot my day was a jerk of a docter that spelest

> was god

> they think there gods it seems with one look they know everthing o

> well i

> just thought i say hello to all and thank you for the bird web sight

> i did

> check it out and am still looking at birds so fare cna nto do much

> else but

> as long as we keep bussy or try the pain and other problems i have

> seem ot

> sleep to the back for a little bit beter then never doing it right

> take care

> all

>

> robert AKA Darkbieng

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey, ! So nice to hear from you again. I was getting worried.

It will be so nice to get out, you'll feel like a new guy. Just dont

do too much, like a teeenager with a new car......and you dont have

to buy the gas or oil or insurance, and you wont have to deal with it

when it breaks down either. September is not very far away, hang in

there.

Sorry you had to deal with a jerk dr, but glad in a way- maybe you

saved someone, you know?

I took my son to a very good dr today, she was great. How lucky can

you get? After we got his prescriptions filled & home I noted they

had only given me 1/2 of what she wanted him on. They said my ins co

would not allow it! They didnt tell me, just did what the ins co

said! When these are gone I can ask for a

refill........Grrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His glands were so swollen he looks

like he has a goiter, and some paper pusher gets to decide what, and

how much medicine he gets, no matter what the dr orders? I'm about to

go " Lawanda " on em. Yeah, lifes not fair. Lets raise hell. As soon as

I find some energy.

We have a lot of hummingbirds now, I think the Rufous just got here

recently. They are very agressive. There is a red one that buzzes my

husbands head- like dive bombing him- when he sits down with me on

the swing. There is a feeder right there, HIS. I guess he is used to

me, or doesnt consider me a threat. Or, more likely, he watched me

fill the feeders. He buzzed me once last week when I was cutting some

of his favorite flowers, for my granddaughter, but since he has been

almost friendly. I could watch them for hours.

Hope you get some good days soon. Say hi once in a while, k?

Love,

>

> well in september i finly be geting shutle service out my way so i

be able

> ot get out of the house in my wheel chair i do nto own a van i

whish i did

> ihave a few frinds that tryed to get one donated to me through a few

> companys out her they were willing till they found out i was a man

and not a

> child to me i can not figure out the diference a child can not

drive and i

> am a man with a child that to do anything with him i would kneed a

van just

> like a child would kneed a van if he was to do anything with his

dad so i

> thought that was kind of crule but i can not do a thing about it i

just wate

> till iget servace this way i at least be able to get out some times

to go

> into the city latly i been ill in bed 24/7 but i been trying ot get

up

> anyway of late so dam tiring to do so i went a seen a new doc

another morone

> for a docter he told me there was not a thing wrong with me and all

my pain

> was in my head withouhg evan exzaming me i could have punched him

in the

> head i was so dam mad i told my regler doc about the viset and he

is who

> hapends to employ this new speclest well the new doc no longer has

a job i

> was not hte only one to complane but i was the last i put the

clinch on my

> doc deciding to fire him cuse my doc knowes me very well i do nto

evna go to

> the doc when i ma sick i have to realy be felling very ill befor i

go and at

> that i still od nto like going and my doc knows that so that he

will be gone

> is a bit of brighting ot my day was a jerk of a docter that spelest

was god

> they think there gods it seems with one look they know everthing o

well i

> just thought i say hello to all and thank you for the bird web

sight i did

> check it out and am still looking at birds so fare cna nto do much

else but

> as long as we keep bussy or try the pain and other problems i have

seem ot

> sleep to the back for a little bit beter then never doing it right

take care

> all

>

> robert AKA Darkbieng

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheri:

We sure do miss ya Darlin. Hope you are doing ok. Take care

now! Love ya!

We Will Win

Love Y'all

Bob & Carole

Please Visit the International Stills Disease Foundation Web Site at:

www.stillsdisease.org

[Guest guest]

Oh Sheri!!!

I miss you sooooo much! Please take care &

thank you so much for " dropping us a few lines. "

Your friend, tricia

wega2@...

-- Hello All

Hi everyone! Hope all is well, I really miss you guys. I was just

stopping in to say hello. I am hoping to get a job and I am training

right now - so took advantage of the computer facilities.

Ma is good, our temperature with the humidity was 42 degrees today so

her blood pressure was sky high. They say our smog is coming from

NorthEastern States. Very weird we never have smog. Well I truly wish

you all the best and Take Good Care,

Love Always,

Sheri

[Guest guest]

Hi Pheonix, and welcome back to the club.

What you eat can effect your hunger almost as much as how much you

eat. Do you use an EFA supplement? Many have said that something

like Udo's or Barlean, or just Flax oil, helps them feel satisfied

all day.

Alys

[Guest guest]

> Hi Pheonix, and welcome back to the club.

>

> What you eat can effect your hunger almost as much as how much you

> eat. Do you use an EFA supplement? Many have said that something

> like Udo's or Barlean, or just Flax oil, helps them feel satisfied

> all day.

>

>

> Alys

Hi Phoenix--

I was thinking the same thing as Alys on your question of hunger. If

your dietary fat levels are high enough, and you're sure you're

eating big enough portions, then the next thing I'd look at are what

kind of carbs you're choosing.

I find that choosing complex carbs that really stick to me keep my

hunger levels low. For example, my post-workout meal would have a

high glycemic carb, like a banana or occasionally a piece of bread.

Then for most of my other meals, I will choose carbs like beans,

brown rice, oatmeal that are lower on the glycemic scale and that

take a long time to break down, therefore keeping you satisfied for a

longer period of time. I'm not knocking the value of fruit, as I

chose it two or three times a day for my BFL challenges, I'm just

saying that sometimes it's not as satisfying as more complex carbs.

It took me a LONG time to want to eat beans with my chicken instead

of an apple, but I have loads more energy when I do. Sometimes it's

all a matter of looking at your food as true fuel, hard to do though.

Also, are you using any meal replacements like shakes and bars? Those

do not fill me up at all! I'd look at that as a factor in your hunger

as well.

And lastly, if everything is in check, you can always add more

veggies and fiber to your diet. This stuff keeps you satisfied

because it takes a while to break down in your body. As I like to

say, never underestimate the power of fiber!

Hope this helps!

Maggie

[Guest guest]

Hi Phoenix -

Here's to self-discipline and determination! You are not alone in feeling

hungry. I am nearing my goal weight now too and feel much more hungry than I

used to 73 pounds ago! It seems illogical as there is not as much of me to

fuel! But I am just thankful for that hungry feeling and know that my

metabolism is now roaring. Just wanted to let you know you're not alone. Oh,

and by the way, I ran out of flax oil a week ago and keep forgetting to pick

some up. I do notice I feel much less hungry when I take that.

Park

Hello all

Hi everyone,

Having suddenly posted a reply on the board out of nowhere, I thought

I'd better say Hi. I was a member of this board a long time ago

under the name Zyth2002. Something unfunky happened to that account

though. It got sucked into some password netherworld and lost

forever. So, here I am, back again under a new, prettier name ,

and beginning another challenge.

I completed one challenge successfully last year (Sept - Nov 2001).

So now, one whole year on, I've decided to do something about those

last pounds. I've been making excuse after excuse all year, and while

I've done enough to maintain (and actually lose a couple more pounds)

I'm tired of fluffing around.

So, here are my starting stats...

Height: 5'7 "

Weight: 147

Chest: 37.5 "

Waist: 30.5 " (sigh)

Belly Button: 34 "

Hip: 37.5 "

Thigh: 23.75 "

Calf: 14.75 "

BF (according to biofitness.com) = 23% - seems lower than it should

be, but then, I'm quite self-critical.

I do have one question. I've seen lots of ladies on this board saying

that they don't know how they can eat all this food. Does anyone have

the other problem? I eat six times a day (and I've done the

micromanagement thing temporarily, so I'm pretty sure I've got my

portions right) and I've spent the whole week so far hungry. It's

driving me nuts and I'm starting to think there's something wrong

with me. I'm sure I didn't have this problem last time.

Wish me luck... no, wish me self-discipline and determination. That

would be more useful.

Pheonix

[Guest guest]

I'm hungry quite often. I never have a problem eating all my food. I

finally switched up my carbs to less processed carbs and added more

veggies and salads to my meals and I find I'm not hungry ALL the time

anymore.

Colleen

--- > ----- Original Message -----

> From: theotherphoenix

>

> I do have one question. I've seen lots of ladies on this board

saying

> that they don't know how they can eat all this food. Does anyone

have

> the other problem? I eat six times a day (and I've done the

> micromanagement thing temporarily, so I'm pretty sure I've got my

> portions right) and I've spent the whole week so far hungry. It's

> driving me nuts and I'm starting to think there's something wrong

> with me. I'm sure I didn't have this problem last time.

>

> Wish me luck... no, wish me self-discipline and determination.

That

> would be more useful.

>

> Pheonix

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Alys and Maggie. You both make good points. It's amazing what

you forget in a few months. I did used to take Flax Oil at least

twice a day. And I know I've been eating too much bread and not

enough oatmeal/rice etc. That's probably making all the difference.

I'm at the end of week one now (friday night here). So i'll have my

freeday tomorrow and implement some changes for next week that will

hopefully prevent me from being a raving fridge-scavenger again!

Phoenix

> > Hi Pheonix, and welcome back to the club.

> >

> > What you eat can effect your hunger almost as much as how much

you

> > eat. Do you use an EFA supplement? Many have said that

something

> > like Udo's or Barlean, or just Flax oil, helps them feel

satisfied

> > all day.

> >

> >

> > Alys

>

> Hi Phoenix--

> I was thinking the same thing as Alys on your question of hunger.

If

> your dietary fat levels are high enough, and you're sure you're

> eating big enough portions, then the next thing I'd look at are

what

> kind of carbs you're choosing.

>

> I find that choosing complex carbs that really stick to me keep my

> hunger levels low. For example, my post-workout meal would have a

> high glycemic carb, like a banana or occasionally a piece of bread.

> Then for most of my other meals, I will choose carbs like beans,

> brown rice, oatmeal that are lower on the glycemic scale and that

> take a long time to break down, therefore keeping you satisfied for

a

> longer period of time. I'm not knocking the value of fruit, as I

> chose it two or three times a day for my BFL challenges, I'm just

> saying that sometimes it's not as satisfying as more complex carbs.

> It took me a LONG time to want to eat beans with my chicken instead

> of an apple, but I have loads more energy when I do. Sometimes it's

> all a matter of looking at your food as true fuel, hard to do

though.

>

> Also, are you using any meal replacements like shakes and bars?

Those

> do not fill me up at all! I'd look at that as a factor in your

hunger

> as well.

>

> And lastly, if everything is in check, you can always add more

> veggies and fiber to your diet. This stuff keeps you satisfied

> because it takes a while to break down in your body. As I like to

> say, never underestimate the power of fiber!

>

> Hope this helps!

> Maggie