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ccuda6 wrote:

> ok posting a reply to my own post. Don't ya all love people like

> me. I kept reading and found the site with your recipes posted. ok

> now the question. what brand and flavor of protein do you use when

> you make these things I thought protein powder could not be cooked

> with. see one question answered another one made. sorry

>

> C

I use unflavored 80% whey protein powder. It's safe for baking and cooking.

:) I order it bulk from http://www.bulkfoods.com

Serenity

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According to Designer Whey~a protein powder company [someone called them and

asked this question on my site] and I also e-mailed them as well on this.

They said that cooking the protein affects it biochemically but that the

protein amount in the powder is the same as when it isn't cooked. So

basically the protein when cooked is not digested as quickly as when it is

not cooked but the protein itself is still in tack.

Also all protein sources are biochemically affected like this as well when

cooked...meaning that the protein is always absorbed by the body quicker in

the raw state but the protein itself is not compromised in the cooking

process. Hope this helps~

Joann

Re: new here

> ok posting a reply to my own post. Don't ya all love people like

> me. I kept reading and found the site with your recipes posted. ok

> now the question. what brand and flavor of protein do you use when

> you make these things I thought protein powder could not be cooked

> with. see one question answered another one made. sorry

>

> C

>

>

> > Hi all I'm new here and really don't spend a lot of time here but

> am

> > trying. Just read a post that referred to " power bread " was

> > wondering if someone makes bread with protein in it? if so could

> you

> > pass along a recipe? Would be great if you could email me directly

> > at ccuda6@y... because I don't know that I will be able to find

> > my answer here among all the list. also is there a way to read the

> > messages so that once youve read them they don't pop up again, so I

> > don't have to sort through them all each time?

> >

> > Thanks for your help.

> >

> > Colleen

>

>

>

>

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Hi and welcome Amy,

Some advice - Go get your a meal worksheet out of the book, take it to a copier,

and make 72 copies. Then sit down and figure out every meal you will have for

the first 2 weeks. Then go to the grocery store and buy all the food and

prepare as much as you can (portioned out). This is a much better way to start.

By the end of your 1st 2 weeks you may not have to do this pre-planning quite as

much, but believe me, it's worth it at the beginning, especially if you're not

used to eating 6 times a day.

Park

New Here

Hello, everyone. My name's Amy, I'm new to this whole Body For Life

Program. Today's actually my second day on it. Today I did a lower

body weights workout and I feel like jello. I think my biggest

challenge is going to be the meals! I did ok yesterday, I at least

got 5 meals in but they weren't as balanced as they needed to be.

Hopefully today I can get it right. I'm looking forward to giving and

receiving some support! Have a wonderful day everyone!!

AMY

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Welcome to BFL and to our group Amy!

Rita

New Here

Hello, everyone. My name's Amy, I'm new to this whole Body For Life

Program. Today's actually my second day on it. Today I did a lower

body weights workout and I feel like jello. I think my biggest

challenge is going to be the meals! I did ok yesterday, I at least

got 5 meals in but they weren't as balanced as they needed to be.

Hopefully today I can get it right. I'm looking forward to giving and

receiving some support! Have a wonderful day everyone!!

AMY

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Excellent advice Park!!! Its also a great habit to get into ... I am definitely

going to do that for my next challenge ... I've just recently started planning

and I think if I had done it sooner I would have done much better!

Rita

New Here

Hello, everyone. My name's Amy, I'm new to this whole Body For Life

Program. Today's actually my second day on it. Today I did a lower

body weights workout and I feel like jello. I think my biggest

challenge is going to be the meals! I did ok yesterday, I at least

got 5 meals in but they weren't as balanced as they needed to be.

Hopefully today I can get it right. I'm looking forward to giving and

receiving some support! Have a wonderful day everyone!!

AMY

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I think everyone here will agree that planning is pretty essential to

success on BFL. This is what we do...

I make sure to have three non-cook meals a day. Usually it's cottage

chees and fruit or yogurt. I have one myoplex lite everyday. I'm

not organized in any other area of my life, but BFL. Too funny. My

hubby thinks I'm a pod person.

Anyway. The top shelf of my fridge is large jar stuff like chicken

broth, spaghetti sauce, fat free mayo and sour cream...stuff like

that.

Middle shelf and largest is milk, yogurt, containers of cooked wild,

brown rice and ww pasta

Lower shelf is protein. Egg cartons, Cottage cheese, Tuna packets,

Containers of cooked ground beef or turkey and chicken breasts.

Then we have a fruit drawer that usually contains apples and

grapefruit with some small veggies.

Then the meat drawer usually has container of cut-up veggies

(Tupperware sells new fridge container that keep veggies good for

WEEKS), bags of baby spinach and lettuces for quick salads and baby

carrots for snacking.

Any meat we are going to fix for dinner we usually buy THAT day, so

we don't have to freeze or store raw meat.

I just bought some of those ziplock containers in 'snack' size to

store mixes of brown rice and different meats for quick meals when we

run out of our normal stuff (sometimes hubby goes nutz with his

portions!) and that works GREAT.

A normal day for me is:

1. 4 egg whites scrambled with 1/2 cup brown rice and salsa

2. myoplex lite

3. chicken breast, brown rice or WW pasta, large spinach/lettuce

salad with balsamic vinagrette.

4. cottage cheese and grapefruit

5. Grilled fish or lean meat with wild rice and steamed broccoli or

asparagus or green beans (we love fresh veggies)

6. cottage cheese with apple

I LOVE to cook. But with this diet, I like things as simple as

possible. On my free days I plan to cook things like Coq Au Vin to

meet my creative needs, but during the week, the plainer the easier.

I don't do anything fancy.

Well, I hope this helped a little!

Astra

> Hello, everyone. My name's Amy, I'm new to this whole Body For Life

> Program. Today's actually my second day on it. Today I did a lower

> body weights workout and I feel like jello. I think my biggest

> challenge is going to be the meals! I did ok yesterday, I at least

> got 5 meals in but they weren't as balanced as they needed to be.

> Hopefully today I can get it right. I'm looking forward to giving

and

> receiving some support! Have a wonderful day everyone!!

>

> AMY

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Welcome. We're all in this together so feel free to ask anything you

need to know. Someone will have the answer. Stick to it and you will

see results! Glad you're here!

Stasia

> Hello, everyone. My name's Amy, I'm new to this whole Body For Life

> Program. Today's actually my second day on it. Today I did a lower

> body weights workout and I feel like jello. I think my biggest

> challenge is going to be the meals! I did ok yesterday, I at least

> got 5 meals in but they weren't as balanced as they needed to be.

> Hopefully today I can get it right. I'm looking forward to giving

and

> receiving some support! Have a wonderful day everyone!!

>

> AMY

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In a message dated 5/14/2002 11:17:40 AM Central Daylight Time,

amedwa@... writes:

> Hello, everyone. My name's Amy, I'm new to this whole Body For Life

> Program. Today's actually my second day on it. Today I did a lower

> body weights workout and I feel like jello. I think my biggest

> challenge is going to be the meals! I did ok yesterday, I at least

> got 5 meals in but they weren't as balanced as they needed to be.

> Hopefully today I can get it right. I'm looking forward to giving and

> receiving some support! Have a wonderful day everyone!!

>

>

hi Amy!! Welcome.... Congrats on your first great work out!

I remember that jello feeling.....If I'm right and you're like me tomorrow

you are going to find it hard to walk up (and Specificaly Down) any stairs

and to lower your poor self onto the toilet when you have to pee every 20

minutes...

dont be discouraged by this! It goes away!

Becky

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amedwa wrote:

> Hello, everyone. My name's Amy, I'm new to this whole Body For Life

> Program. Today's actually my second day on it. Today I did a lower

> body weights workout and I feel like jello. I think my biggest

> challenge is going to be the meals! I did ok yesterday, I at least

> got 5 meals in but they weren't as balanced as they needed to be.

> Hopefully today I can get it right. I'm looking forward to giving and

> receiving some support! Have a wonderful day everyone!!

>

> AMY

Welcome to the group, Amy!! I look forward to hearing more from you. :)

Serenity (who recommends cooking ahead and planning meals so you don't have

the option to get off track!)

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>

> Any meat we are going to fix for dinner we usually buy THAT day, so

> we don't have to freeze or store raw meat.

This whole post was just GREAT from Astra and I wanted to add that we do

freeze meat and we buy veggies frozen also. So, since we've got a side by

side refridge, we do the same thing in the freezer with organization. We

keep free food on the top shelf, meat on the next, and veggies on the next.

We buy meat in bulk from the butcher and then pack it up in ziplocs in meal

sizes. (2 whole breasts of chicken to a bag.. 4 chops to a bag.. 1 steak to

a bag.. etc!)

Serenity

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This is absolutely a great thing to do to Serenity... I have freezer

envy.

Astra (hoping and praying that someday, someHOW she too has a big ass

freezer!!) lol.

>

> >

> > Any meat we are going to fix for dinner we usually buy THAT day,

so

> > we don't have to freeze or store raw meat.

>

> This whole post was just GREAT from Astra and I wanted to add that

we do

> freeze meat and we buy veggies frozen also. So, since we've got a

side by

> side refridge, we do the same thing in the freezer with

organization. We

> keep free food on the top shelf, meat on the next, and veggies on

the next.

> We buy meat in bulk from the butcher and then pack it up in ziplocs

in meal

> sizes. (2 whole breasts of chicken to a bag.. 4 chops to a bag.. 1

steak to

> a bag.. etc!)

> Serenity

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astramari02 wrote:

> This is absolutely a great thing to do to Serenity... I have freezer

> envy.

>

> Astra (hoping and praying that someday, someHOW she too has a big ass

> freezer!!) lol.

LOL! I hear ya :) In England we had.. well.. a " beer fridge " in our

kitchen. The " freezer " , if you can call it that, wasn't even big enough for

a pint of ice cream. Sometimes I just open the freezer we have now and

drool.

Serenity (who still dreams of that $4000+ KitchenAid Refridge she saw a few

months ago. LOL. Not in this lifetime!)

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Welcome, Shandelle, and congratulations on the new baby. We would love to

have you joing us. Please keep sharing about the baby...I think its marvelous

that you will be able to nurse. a

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Hello and welcome! What a fascinating story (I read the article)!

Congratulations, and please keep us informed. I am very interested in

hearing more about the breastfeeding routine you had to go through to

produce milk; my husband and I do foster care, often for infants, and

I would love to be able to give that gift to these children. You can

write me at jericrews@...

Jeri

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Shandelle;

Hi! and welcome to the board~ I just read your story from the link you

posted...WOW that is awesome! Talk about fate stepping in and taking over.

Congrats to you and your husband not only for the little bundle that is

expected to come next month but for the wonderful friend/ friends that you

have that made it happen for you and your family.

Looking forward to hearing more about your story as it unfolds and can't

wait to see the new family pictures!

Joann

http://www.mrsbishwitskitchen.com

New here

> Hi everyone,

>

> My name is Shandelle and I am about to start the BFL program again!

> I was on it once in 200 and lost 8 pounds and 2 dress sizes in 2

> WEEKS!!! But then developed a blood poisoning (not related to BFL)

> and got really sick. I found it very hard to get my motivation back

> and am now bigger then ever.

>

> Part of my significant weight gain has been the fact that last

> October my husband and I went through the IVF process to have a

> baby. As I am unable to carry, they took my eggs, hubby's

> sperm...made embryos in a dish and then transferred them to my

> wonderful friend. She is now 36 weeks pregnant with our son who is

> due to be born July 7th. You can read more about this at

> http://www.canadianparents.com/articles/feature46h.htm

>

> Anyway, I gained about 45 pounds after the treatments due to some

> complications I had and a hormone imbalance. The i began the

> breastfeeding protocol so that I would be able to nurse my son and am

> now pumping about 8 ounces a day or so, but the protocol caused me to

> gain about another 15 - 20 pounds and I am now a whopping 250 pounds

> on a 5'8 frame. EEK!

>

> I have been looking into it and I can do the food, protein etc no

> problem on the BFL, while nursing so I am going to try again! To

> start though I am going to do the food, and the interval running

> EVERYDAY except the free day. I want to wait until we have our baby

> to start at the gym, so I know his schedule. Is this okay?

>

> Would you all mind if I joined you group even though I am not doing

> the gym part right away? I am hoping to get into better shape so I

> can chase my son around and not feel winded, that and I would love to

> have that pre-baby body again! LOL

>

> I look forward to getting to know you all and following you

> journeys. This is a fantastci program.

>

> Sincerely

> Shandelle

>

>

>

>

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Wow!!! That is such an excellent story. Good luck with the baby. I

am looking forward to hearing stories about your new experience!!

Your kids are adorable, too by the way!

Jana

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Wow Shandelle - what an experience you have been, are going, and will go

through! I am so happy that this is possible for you. I think it would be a

grand way to start (just learning how to eat right, drink your water, and

cardio) for the next few weeks. You will have loads of time to weight train

after your son arrives as he'll be asleep most of the time! Obviously, it would

be BEST if you could start the weight training now too, but the other two are

important.

The most important thing is to read the book (again if you need to) and do the

nutrition and cardio part on a schedule. Meanwhile, plan when you will do the

weights (I would highly recommend at home for a newborn baby - all you need is a

bench and some dumbells) and what exercises you'll do. I presume you are not

entering the " official " challenge, so take your before pics now and

measurements.

And you go, girl - LOSE THAT BABY FAT! I can relate! :0)

Park

New here

Hi everyone,

My name is Shandelle and I am about to start the BFL program again!

I was on it once in 200 and lost 8 pounds and 2 dress sizes in 2

WEEKS!!! But then developed a blood poisoning (not related to BFL)

and got really sick. I found it very hard to get my motivation back

and am now bigger then ever.

Part of my significant weight gain has been the fact that last

October my husband and I went through the IVF process to have a

baby. As I am unable to carry, they took my eggs, hubby's

sperm...made embryos in a dish and then transferred them to my

wonderful friend. She is now 36 weeks pregnant with our son who is

due to be born July 7th. You can read more about this at

http://www.canadianparents.com/articles/feature46h.htm

Anyway, I gained about 45 pounds after the treatments due to some

complications I had and a hormone imbalance. The i began the

breastfeeding protocol so that I would be able to nurse my son and am

now pumping about 8 ounces a day or so, but the protocol caused me to

gain about another 15 - 20 pounds and I am now a whopping 250 pounds

on a 5'8 frame. EEK!

I have been looking into it and I can do the food, protein etc no

problem on the BFL, while nursing so I am going to try again! To

start though I am going to do the food, and the interval running

EVERYDAY except the free day. I want to wait until we have our baby

to start at the gym, so I know his schedule. Is this okay?

Would you all mind if I joined you group even though I am not doing

the gym part right away? I am hoping to get into better shape so I

can chase my son around and not feel winded, that and I would love to

have that pre-baby body again! LOL

I look forward to getting to know you all and following you

journeys. This is a fantastci program.

Sincerely

Shandelle

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Shandelle dear ... I have just been to your website and am sitting here with

tears in my eyes. I can't wait to hear the glorious news that your baby boy has

been born!

You are more than welcome in this group ... I'm sure you have heard that by now.

You do whatever it takes to make you healthy and fit ... and if putting off

exercising is part of that then so be it! Please let us know how we can help.

Thank you for sharing this extraordinary journey ...

Rita

New here

Hi everyone,

My name is Shandelle and I am about to start the BFL program again!

I was on it once in 200 and lost 8 pounds and 2 dress sizes in 2

WEEKS!!! But then developed a blood poisoning (not related to BFL)

and got really sick. I found it very hard to get my motivation back

and am now bigger then ever.

Part of my significant weight gain has been the fact that last

October my husband and I went through the IVF process to have a

baby. As I am unable to carry, they took my eggs, hubby's

sperm...made embryos in a dish and then transferred them to my

wonderful friend. She is now 36 weeks pregnant with our son who is

due to be born July 7th. You can read more about this at

http://www.canadianparents.com/articles/feature46h.htm

Anyway, I gained about 45 pounds after the treatments due to some

complications I had and a hormone imbalance. The i began the

breastfeeding protocol so that I would be able to nurse my son and am

now pumping about 8 ounces a day or so, but the protocol caused me to

gain about another 15 - 20 pounds and I am now a whopping 250 pounds

on a 5'8 frame. EEK!

I have been looking into it and I can do the food, protein etc no

problem on the BFL, while nursing so I am going to try again! To

start though I am going to do the food, and the interval running

EVERYDAY except the free day. I want to wait until we have our baby

to start at the gym, so I know his schedule. Is this okay?

Would you all mind if I joined you group even though I am not doing

the gym part right away? I am hoping to get into better shape so I

can chase my son around and not feel winded, that and I would love to

have that pre-baby body again! LOL

I look forward to getting to know you all and following you

journeys. This is a fantastci program.

Sincerely

Shandelle

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buddhas_mommy wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> My name is Shandelle and I am about to start the BFL program again!

> I was on it once in 200 and lost 8 pounds and 2 dress sizes in 2

> WEEKS!!! But then developed a blood poisoning (not related to BFL)

> and got really sick. I found it very hard to get my motivation back

> and am now bigger then ever.

Hiya Shandelle! If I haven't replied to this already.. what great progress

you made :) You've proven that it can be done.. even if it's hard :)

> I have been looking into it and I can do the food, protein etc no

> problem on the BFL, while nursing so I am going to try again! To

> start though I am going to do the food, and the interval running

> EVERYDAY except the free day. I want to wait until we have our baby

> to start at the gym, so I know his schedule. Is this okay?

I think that you might be shooting yourself in the foot by doing cardio every

day. You'll run the risk of overtraining and could sabotage your progress..

why don't you start off doing it every other day like the book suggests and

see how that goes? :)

Serenity!

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Hi Deb, and welcome to the group!

The key to eating well is planning. It seems hard at first, but if

you can set asside time one day a week to put together your menue for

the week and do any pre-cooking possible, then the meals just fall

into place. I ALWAYS fall off plan when I do not have my food worked

out.

Those teen-aged daughters of your's ought to be able to help, too.

Make them part of your success by asking them for help, maybe even

put them in charge of one aspect of your plan. Maybe one of them

will be your official weigher, or perhaps they get to check your log

every night and verify that you worked out/ate/took sups, what ever

you need help with.

On Sunday cook up a bunch of chicken, break it into portion sizes and

freeze. Then at meal time it is just grab and heat. Make sure your

fruit is washed and ready to eat. I buy a watermellon and cut the

whole thing up, then when I want that as my carb all I have to do is

put some in a bowl.

Many of your veggies can be cut up ahead of time and stored for

several days in the fridge. ZipLoc bags are a must!

The eating plan is not that complicated, it just take setting aside

some time to plan it out. That old saw " A failure to plan is a plan

to fail " is more true with BFL than anything I've ever done before.

Alys

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Hi Alys~Thanks so much for the welcome!!! Incredible advice....I know

to some it seems like a " BIG DUH " but honestly....I am maxed out in

the things to do list!! I should let you know that I actually have

four kids....3 living at home and one married....ALL of them are boys

cept my baby who is 13 and the only girl!! Your advice about

involving her with this is stellar..she would love it!! The planning

will begin today! I have already lost 7 lbs. in my 28 days on the

program and I realize now that I have a ton to learn to actually make

this change for life. I feel like God Himself led me to this

group...I was so excited to find you guys last night that I haven't

even gone to bed!! I live on the WEst Coast...Oregon and I just read

and read and read all night long!! I am soooo pumped about this now!!

I think this can really be done!! I have 29% body fat and I am 5'6 "

tall and weigh 168. It will be awhile before I am where I need to be

but after doing the workouts now for 28 days..I can honestly say that

I can't believe I ever " didn't " do something......I mean...I wouldn't

go a day without brushing my teeth!!!! What made me think I could go

this long negelecting my bod???? Whooooooo Hoooooooo.....glad you

guys are here!!!!

Thanks again!

Deb

>

> The key to eating well is planning. It seems hard at first, but if

> you can set asside time one day a week to put together your menue

for

> the week and do any pre-cooking possible, then the meals just fall

> into place. I ALWAYS fall off plan when I do not have my food

worked

> out.

>

> Those teen-aged daughters of your's ought to be able to help, too.

> Make them part of your success by asking them for help, maybe even

> put them in charge of one aspect of your plan. Maybe one of them

> will be your official weigher, or perhaps they get to check your

log

> every night and verify that you worked out/ate/took sups, what ever

> you need help with.

>

> On Sunday cook up a bunch of chicken, break it into portion sizes

and

> freeze. Then at meal time it is just grab and heat. Make sure

your

> fruit is washed and ready to eat. I buy a watermellon and cut the

> whole thing up, then when I want that as my carb all I have to do

is

> put some in a bowl.

>

> Many of your veggies can be cut up ahead of time and stored for

> several days in the fridge. ZipLoc bags are a must!

>

> The eating plan is not that complicated, it just take setting aside

> some time to plan it out. That old saw " A failure to plan is a

plan

> to fail " is more true with BFL than anything I've ever done before.

>

> Alys

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WOW Deb you sound so pumped. Congrats on the weight loss. What a

great analogy about the teeth. I am 13 days into the program and

doing pretty good myself. I have had to really look at my lifestyle

in the past few months ( I had a Cancer scare) .I to was not happy

with what was going on. I am hoping to learn some great life long

habits. This program so far has been reasonabley simple and the

benefits are wonderful.

Take care

katie--

- In @y..., " debbiew62000 " <bry4deb@e...> wrote:

> Hi Alys~Thanks so much for the welcome!!! Incredible advice....I

know

> to some it seems like a " BIG DUH " but honestly....I am maxed out in

> the things to do list!! I should let you know that I actually have

> four kids....3 living at home and one married....ALL of them are

boys

> cept my baby who is 13 and the only girl!! Your advice about

> involving her with this is stellar..she would love it!! The

planning

> will begin today! I have already lost 7 lbs. in my 28 days on the

> program and I realize now that I have a ton to learn to actually

make

> this change for life. I feel like God Himself led me to this

> group...I was so excited to find you guys last night that I haven't

> even gone to bed!! I live on the WEst Coast...Oregon and I just

read

> and read and read all night long!! I am soooo pumped about this

now!!

> I think this can really be done!! I have 29% body fat and I am 5'6 "

> tall and weigh 168. It will be awhile before I am where I need to

be

> but after doing the workouts now for 28 days..I can honestly say

that

> I can't believe I ever " didn't " do something......I mean...I

wouldn't

> go a day without brushing my teeth!!!! What made me think I could

go

> this long negelecting my bod???? Whooooooo Hoooooooo.....glad you

> guys are here!!!!

> Thanks again!

> Deb

> >

> > The key to eating well is planning. It seems hard at first, but

if

> > you can set asside time one day a week to put together your menue

> for

> > the week and do any pre-cooking possible, then the meals just

fall

> > into place. I ALWAYS fall off plan when I do not have my food

> worked

> > out.

> >

> > Those teen-aged daughters of your's ought to be able to help,

too.

> > Make them part of your success by asking them for help, maybe

even

> > put them in charge of one aspect of your plan. Maybe one of them

> > will be your official weigher, or perhaps they get to check your

> log

> > every night and verify that you worked out/ate/took sups, what

ever

> > you need help with.

> >

> > On Sunday cook up a bunch of chicken, break it into portion sizes

> and

> > freeze. Then at meal time it is just grab and heat. Make sure

> your

> > fruit is washed and ready to eat. I buy a watermellon and cut the

> > whole thing up, then when I want that as my carb all I have to do

> is

> > put some in a bowl.

> >

> > Many of your veggies can be cut up ahead of time and stored for

> > several days in the fridge. ZipLoc bags are a must!

> >

> > The eating plan is not that complicated, it just take setting

aside

> > some time to plan it out. That old saw " A failure to plan is a

> plan

> > to fail " is more true with BFL than anything I've ever done

before.

> >

> > Alys

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Welcome!

Sounds like your life is BUSY!!! I think the simplest thing to do

would be to photocopy the allowed foods page and when you make a meal

pick 1 item from protein and 1 from carb and on 2 of your 6 meals add

a veggie. That would keep it very simple. As you learn what's

allowable and what isn't you can start getting into recipes, etc. But

for the basics, remember 1 serving protein, 1 serving carb and at

least 2 servings veggies a day. Put a copy of the food list on the

fridge and/or pantry for easy reference.

Colleen

> Hi everyone....My name is Debbie Wells....wow...I just felt like I

> just introduced myself in a 12 Step program. LOL....My husband and

I

> have been working the BFL program for 28 days now.....he even made

me

> do the picture thing.....arrrggghhh. Any way....here is my

> dilemna...DH is learning the " excercise " part of the program and

> teaching me and I am to focus on the " eating/nutrition " part of the

> program. We are 44 and 45 years old, with 3 teenagers living in our

> home! Very busy lifestyle. I own my own business and work from

home.

> It requires soooo much of my time that I feel like there isn't

> enought imte in my day to re-learn right ways to eat. I know I NEED

> to, for our whole families sake. The excercise part is a no brainer

> with 's help but my part of the deal seems unconquerable. We

> need to keep it simple here, at least at first......any

> recomendations and advice as to where to begin will be greatly

> appreciated!! We have discovered the full measure of joy in yogurt

> and cottage cheese and our Protein Shakes but from there we are

> stumped.....or I am stumped HELP!!!

> Thanks for listening!!

> Deb

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Hi ~I am glad you are doing well! I hope your Cancer Scare is

all the way behind you my friend. Because I am new i am not too sure

what is allowed here and wouldn't be considered " off-topic " but have

you ever heard of an Organization called ChemoAngels?? I am a

ChemoAngel myself...you can go check them out at www.chemoangels.com

If you would like to know more about what we do, I would be happy to

tell you about the program. If I have violated here please forgive

me...maybe I should read a list of guidelines?? Is there a place to

do such a thing? Ok...thanks for the encouragement and I will

watch for your progress reports!

Love,

deb

> > Hi Alys~Thanks so much for the welcome!!! Incredible advice....I

> know

> > to some it seems like a " BIG DUH " but honestly....I am maxed out

in

> > the things to do list!! I should let you know that I actually

have

> > four kids....3 living at home and one married....ALL of them are

> boys

> > cept my baby who is 13 and the only girl!! Your advice about

> > involving her with this is stellar..she would love it!! The

> planning

> > will begin today! I have already lost 7 lbs. in my 28 days on the

> > program and I realize now that I have a ton to learn to actually

> make

> > this change for life. I feel like God Himself led me to this

> > group...I was so excited to find you guys last night that I

haven't

> > even gone to bed!! I live on the WEst Coast...Oregon and I just

> read

> > and read and read all night long!! I am soooo pumped about this

> now!!

> > I think this can really be done!! I have 29% body fat and I am

5'6 "

> > tall and weigh 168. It will be awhile before I am where I need to

> be

> > but after doing the workouts now for 28 days..I can honestly say

> that

> > I can't believe I ever " didn't " do something......I mean...I

> wouldn't

> > go a day without brushing my teeth!!!! What made me think I could

> go

> > this long negelecting my bod???? Whooooooo Hoooooooo.....glad you

> > guys are here!!!!

> > Thanks again!

> > Deb

> > >

> > > The key to eating well is planning. It seems hard at first, but

> if

> > > you can set asside time one day a week to put together your

menue

> > for

> > > the week and do any pre-cooking possible, then the meals just

> fall

> > > into place. I ALWAYS fall off plan when I do not have my food

> > worked

> > > out.

> > >

> > > Those teen-aged daughters of your's ought to be able to help,

> too.

> > > Make them part of your success by asking them for help, maybe

> even

> > > put them in charge of one aspect of your plan. Maybe one of

them

> > > will be your official weigher, or perhaps they get to check

your

> > log

> > > every night and verify that you worked out/ate/took sups, what

> ever

> > > you need help with.

> > >

> > > On Sunday cook up a bunch of chicken, break it into portion

sizes

> > and

> > > freeze. Then at meal time it is just grab and heat. Make sure

> > your

> > > fruit is washed and ready to eat. I buy a watermellon and cut

the

> > > whole thing up, then when I want that as my carb all I have to

do

> > is

> > > put some in a bowl.

> > >

> > > Many of your veggies can be cut up ahead of time and stored for

> > > several days in the fridge. ZipLoc bags are a must!

> > >

> > > The eating plan is not that complicated, it just take setting

> aside

> > > some time to plan it out. That old saw " A failure to plan is a

> > plan

> > > to fail " is more true with BFL than anything I've ever done

> before.

> > >

> > > Alys

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Hi . Welcome.

I'll offer the same, general advice I give everyone:

1) Always start with the least-invasive treatments first. More

specifically: stay away from surgery until you've exhausted every

other option and simply can't live with the pain.

2) Do as much research as you can about all the different treatments

and types of doctors there are. For example, don't think that only

an orthopedic surgeon can help. Often non-surgeons are more helpful

for this condition. Try to find a pain specialist, osteopath (D.O.),

doctor of applied kinesiology, doctor of physical medicine,

musculoskeletal doctor. Even a good chiropractor or physical

therapist can be invaluable. The key is to figure out what is wrong

with your feet, knees, hips, back or whatever is causing your knee

pain. You need somebody who will give you a thorough (1 to 2 hour)

exam. Most surgeons spend only 10 or 15 minutes before making their

diagnosis.

3) Keep a positive attitude. There are ways of getting you better.

I have 3 kids of my own and I was miserable thinking about how I

wouldn't be able to run around with them. Being miserable didn't

help. You have to have the attitude that you WILL beat this thing.

It will take alot of time and alot of work, but you WILL get better.

Feel free to ask us questions and post more info.

Good luck,

Doug

dougfromct2002@...

P.S. - We're glad you found us too.

> Hello! My name is nancy, and I'm new here. I'm a 37 yo mother of 4

> and I've recently been diagnosed with chondromalacia patella. I

used

> to be a very active person, but just walking or being on my feet

for

> more than a few minutes is a nightmare. I've been having problems

> walking for the last year. Severe knee pain, and the effusion has

> made life miserable. We didn't have insurance till recently (dh was

> self employed) so I had my first vist with the orthopedic 3 weeks

> ago. I've been " sentenced " to do 4 weeks of pt, which hasn't seemed

> to help much at all, and I'm going back to the orthopedic next

week.

> He had prscribed vioxx for me but my insurance denied it so I'm

> taking naprosen instead. I make my own bath products so I've been

> soaking in the tub with bath fizzies (they have sea salts in them)

> which does seem to help the discomfort a little.

> I think the hardest thing is that I have 5 yr old twins and they

want

> me to go play with them at the park and ride bikes etc. and i have

to

> tell them that mommy can't do those things. It just breaks my heart

> to tell them that. :(

> Anyway, I just wanted to say hi and I'll go read the past messages

> etc so I won't clog up the list with the same old questions. ;0) So

> glad I found this group.

>

> nancy

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