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If they are so honest, then why are they calling those drops with absolutely no hCG in them, hCG, as in the button that states, Order hCG, and the bullets that talk about hCG? If you put those drops on a pregnancy test, it will NOT turn pink, blue, or pregnant to indicate the presence of hCG.

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From: <lsmith149@...> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:32:05 AMSubject: Re: Help

I prefer the oral sublingual drops ( under the tongue). I have lost 16lbs in 20 days. Hit 2 plateaus. Where I didn't lose. So I ate the 6 apples and drank lots of water along with taking the drops. I also take a physician grade Vit B 12. Supplement with a mag, caI,pot supplement. I get leg cramps from drinking so much water. I am so grateful for even losing .4 or .6 lbs in a day. The scale just gets lower and lower daily. It took me years to put it on and taking a lot less to remove it. I never cheated once. Check out hcgdietitworks. com.They are very honest and reputable. I know at least 10 people that did the oral drops. They are all so happy with their weight loss. No hunger, no cravings. It works. Wish you great success.

From: lisac5804 <lisac5804gmail (DOT) com>Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:46:37 PMSubject: Help

I'm interested in the Hcg diet, but would like some help in getting started. Where do I get it? What is everybody eating? How do the injections compare with the sublingual? What's the "real" average weight loss?Thanks, C.

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Sheree,

Give us your opinion? I just an an e-chat with bestdiscountedpharmacy.com, and

they state their cheap prices are because the market has become flooded with

HCG, and they are sure it is the real product, although, they would not commit

to a guarantee. Do you feel this is the real stuff, just cheap? larry

>

> , welcome! First off you need to read Pounds and Inches, which is the

manuscript Dr. Simeons wrote on this protocol. It should be in the files

section of this group otherwise google it. Make sure it is the 'original'.

Second, there isn't any difference in success btw oral and injections, its just

a matter of preference. The average loss for women is .5 pounds per day over

all. That doesn't mean your body is going to drop that exact amount everyday.

It is normal to have fluctuaitions and some stalls. You can order real rx hcg

to mix yourself from online pharmacies. I use alldaychemist.com bc they had the

best prices until lately. Bestdiscountpharmacy.com is selling it the cheapest

right now from what I've read. Your supplies needed will depend on the method

you choose.

> hope that helps :) Sheree

> --- Original Message ---

> From: " lisac5804 " <lisac5804@...>

> Sent:Sun 9/13/09 7:46 pm

>

> Subj: Help

>

> I'm interested in the Hcg diet, but would like some help in getting started.

Where do I get it? What is everybody eating? How do the injections compare

with the sublingual? What's the " real " average weight loss?

>

> Thanks,

> C.

>

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Sheree,

Give us your opinion? I just an an e-chat with bestdiscountedpharmacy.com, and

they state their cheap prices are because the market has become flooded with

HCG, and they are sure it is the real product, although, they would not commit

to a guarantee. Do you feel this is the real stuff, just cheap? larry

>

> , welcome! First off you need to read Pounds and Inches, which is the

manuscript Dr. Simeons wrote on this protocol. It should be in the files

section of this group otherwise google it. Make sure it is the 'original'.

Second, there isn't any difference in success btw oral and injections, its just

a matter of preference. The average loss for women is .5 pounds per day over

all. That doesn't mean your body is going to drop that exact amount everyday.

It is normal to have fluctuaitions and some stalls. You can order real rx hcg

to mix yourself from online pharmacies. I use alldaychemist.com bc they had the

best prices until lately. Bestdiscountpharmacy.com is selling it the cheapest

right now from what I've read. Your supplies needed will depend on the method

you choose.

> hope that helps :) Sheree

> --- Original Message ---

> From: " lisac5804 " <lisac5804@...>

> Sent:Sun 9/13/09 7:46 pm

>

> Subj: Help

>

> I'm interested in the Hcg diet, but would like some help in getting started.

Where do I get it? What is everybody eating? How do the injections compare

with the sublingual? What's the " real " average weight loss?

>

> Thanks,

> C.

>

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Sheree,

Give us your opinion? I just an an e-chat with bestdiscountedpharmacy.com, and

they state their cheap prices are because the market has become flooded with

HCG, and they are sure it is the real product, although, they would not commit

to a guarantee. Do you feel this is the real stuff, just cheap? larry

>

> , welcome! First off you need to read Pounds and Inches, which is the

manuscript Dr. Simeons wrote on this protocol. It should be in the files

section of this group otherwise google it. Make sure it is the 'original'.

Second, there isn't any difference in success btw oral and injections, its just

a matter of preference. The average loss for women is .5 pounds per day over

all. That doesn't mean your body is going to drop that exact amount everyday.

It is normal to have fluctuaitions and some stalls. You can order real rx hcg

to mix yourself from online pharmacies. I use alldaychemist.com bc they had the

best prices until lately. Bestdiscountpharmacy.com is selling it the cheapest

right now from what I've read. Your supplies needed will depend on the method

you choose.

> hope that helps :) Sheree

> --- Original Message ---

> From: " lisac5804 " <lisac5804@...>

> Sent:Sun 9/13/09 7:46 pm

>

> Subj: Help

>

> I'm interested in the Hcg diet, but would like some help in getting started.

Where do I get it? What is everybody eating? How do the injections compare

with the sublingual? What's the " real " average weight loss?

>

> Thanks,

> C.

>

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facultative anaerobes Anaerbic cocci

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S.oralis-group prevotella oralis

Mutant streptocci

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Hi Naveed

My appreciation to you,thank you very very much!What book did you read?It is very informative.

Sincerely Vasileva

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Hey Zafar

It is from my friend who passed ORE and she kindly gave it to me.You can obtain all info that you need from files,links and photos sections.

Best regards Lyuda

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Hi Lyuda

Thanks for the appreciation.Following your footsteps.

Take Care.

On 11/17/09, Lyudmyla Huhley <huhley2006@...> wrote:

> Hi Naveed

> Just want to say thanks for a great stuff about micro in perio.

> Best regards Lyuda

>

>

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Hi

Well I used the following books.

1-Oral Microbiology for dentistry[Chapman and Hall]

2-Oral Pathology by soames

3-Oxford pink book.

On 11/17/09, Dr Vasileva <dr.vasileva@...> wrote:

> Hi Naveed

> My appreciation to you,thank you very very much!What book did you read?It is

> very informative.

> Sincerely Vasileva

>

>

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thanks, that's what I thought. But I thought I have read some studies suggesting 12 mg and I'm wondering how you get that much naturally. thanksFrom: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: helpiodine Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 8:41 PM

There are 1,000 mcg (micrograms) in 1 mg (milligram)

Steph

help

I don't understand the conversions. How much iodine and mg vs mcg...can anyone help..thanks

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Steph wrote:

> ... He gets watery diarrhea with them and it lasts for days. ...

You may want to try the tricks used for dumping. Sometimes when things

change for the stomach, like surgery or making it smaller with a

fundoplication , it can start dumping. I think one or two others here

may have reported dumping like symptoms after a myotomy, but probably

didn't use that term. If he is still drinking a lot to wash food down he

may want to try a bit less with his food. Also some foods like salad or

dairy often trigger dumping. The esophagectomy members can tell you

more. That kind of thing usually gets better in time. We can hope so.

notan

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Hello, if you would like to talk to me over the phone I think I can give you

some insight on some things. You can call me at 478-919-8813. I am free all

day tomorrow. I have been through several surgeries and other proceedures for

this disease.

in Georgia

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My husband had his myotomy feb 2, 2010. He is swallowing better but all these

new problems are making things very difficult to live with. The spasms are

about 2-3 times a week and ruin him for the whole day. He gets watery diarrhea

with them and it lasts for days. Weather or not they are related or not?

whatever.... he is up all night going to the bathroom and most days with a lump

(literally feeling) in his throat just waiting for the spasms to come. His

stress is horrible for all of us. Any tips for the spasms and diarrhea? Anyone

with the same symptoms after surgery? The Dr. s are of no help of course. No

real diet to go by, no fix for the spasms. I am having to be the Dr. and go on

line to find ways to naturally stop the diarrhea and take notes on when and what

causes the spasms and diarrhea. As you know it is like learning what and how to

eat all over again. Any help from you all who have gone through this already is

greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Frustrated wife, Steph

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I'm on P2D14 and am down 13 lbs. I am following the diet exactly, writing

everything down and am too old for TOM. I gained .2 on Friday lost it Saturday

and gained .9 today!

Should I do an apple day? If so can I drink tea on an apple day?

Thanks

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Hi Deepu

I prepared the answers by myself,thus I used the papers as a plan in my studying,apart from reading pink and blue books.

Sincerely

LyudmylaHuhley

From: Deepu Mathew <drdeeputm@...>Subject: help Date: Tuesday, 13 April, 2010, 8:22

Hello Lyuda

I am preparing to take the exam in september.I took 5 months to finish pink book alone.I ave to study many more books.How should i study to cover all the important books?

Do you have all the answers for khan's papers?

Please reply

takecare

Deepu.

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hi deepu....how do i get access to khan's papers??thanks and rgds...jasmineFrom: Deepu Mathew <drdeeputm@...>Subject: help Date: Tuesday, 13 April, 2010, 12:52 PM

Hello Lyuda

I am preparing to take the exam in september.I took 5 months to finish pink book alone.I ave to study many more books.How should i study to cover all the important books?

Do you have all the answers for khan's papers?

Please reply

takecare

Deepu.

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Hi Sheila thanks for that, i need a favour where is the best place to buy t3 from thanks lou

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Hi Kooky - I have put the information about Dr Myhill onto our web site and also written to every one of our members individually asking them to write to the GMC and send copies to www.tpa-uk.org. uk . We have over 1570 members.

Luv - Sheila

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Go to our FILES section from the Home Page of this forum's web

site. Scroll through the FOLDERS until you see one entitled INTERNET PHARMACIES

- Have a look at the information there and you will see where the best and

cheapest place is to buy T3.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila thanks for that, i need a favour where is the best place to buy t3

from thanks lou

Hi Kooky - I have put the information

about Dr Myhill onto our web site and also written to every one of our members

individually asking them to write to the GMC and send copies to www.tpa-uk.org. uk . We

have over 1570 members.

Luv - Sheila

____________ _________ ______

Please take a moment to read this brief outline, sign the petition, and look at

her website.

http://www.theonecl

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newspost

Scroll down for the contact details of the GMC

Petition: http://www.ipetitio

ns.com/petition/ witchhuntofdrsar ahmyhill/

Dr Myhills website, scroll down on the right hand side posted 9 April, click on

GMC

Thank you - and healing thoughts,

Kooky

PS. I forgot to add that Dr Myhill has never been involved in any malpractice,

or tainting behavior. Her fees are reasonable, no affiliation with any

companies, no conflict of interest.

By contrast, a doctor who killed 12 elderly patients at a nursing home, to keep

them quiet, overdosing on tranquilizers, is still allowed to practice. Yes,

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I'm afraid that not knowing what you bought, we can't help. I would ask the people that you bought it from. HCG 13,000 IU/mmg doesn't mean anything that would help. If we knew how many IU in a ML, we could tell you in ML, but not drops. Your provider should have (and should have given) you the correct information for what you have bought from them.

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From: myrtletree58 <myrtletree58@...> Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 8:48:33 AMSubject: Help

I am not real computer knowledgeable. ..I have looked on all the sites and I get lots of information ...even the doseage for injectable.. ..but please Someone out there tell me how much to take orally and how many times aday....there is so much different stuff I don't want to begin until I know the truth....I bought HCG 13,000 IU/mmg* Do I take itbefore breakfast... ..please someone ...tell me something

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You don't mention the obvious - desensitization to aspirin. On May 20, 2010, at 3:09 PM, kdcurlywurly12 wrote:

Hi

After suffering with nasal congestion and discomfort for 18mths and my GP telling me I had hayfever, I was finally referred to an ENT consultant.

He diagnosed Nasal Polyps and Samters Triad. I had septoplasty and FESS surgery. Sadly the polyps quickly grew back and fast forward 4 years I have now had 3 more FESS operations.

My last of which was at the end of March. Sadly my polyps have grown back within 8 weeks.

I am currently taking Cetirizine, singulair, seretide 125, ventolin, betnesol and for 10 days (I am 2 days in) Prednisolone. I have taken steroids in short bursts over the last four years but this is the first time on this one. I am not really comfortable with taking these and am hoping for some advice.

My quality of life is at times very poor.

Does anyone have any hints, info, dietary tips etc.

I also douche my nose daily with salt and bicarbonate of soda.

I look forward to hearing from you.

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I mentioned it to my consultant but he said that it doesn't always work and

brushed it aside.

>

> > Hi

> >

> > After suffering with nasal congestion and discomfort for 18mths and my GP

telling me I had hayfever, I was finally referred to an ENT consultant.

> >

> > He diagnosed Nasal Polyps and Samters Triad. I had septoplasty and FESS

surgery. Sadly the polyps quickly grew back and fast forward 4 years I have now

had 3 more FESS operations.

> >

> > My last of which was at the end of March. Sadly my polyps have grown back

within 8 weeks.

> >

> > I am currently taking Cetirizine, singulair, seretide 125, ventolin,

betnesol and for 10 days (I am 2 days in) Prednisolone. I have taken steroids in

short bursts over the last four years but this is the first time on this one. I

am not really comfortable with taking these and am hoping for some advice.

> >

> > My quality of life is at times very poor.

> >

> > Does anyone have any hints, info, dietary tips etc.

> >

> > I also douche my nose daily with salt and bicarbonate of soda.

> >

> > I look forward to hearing from you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> Subject: Re: Help

There is no point being a member of this group unless you:

- accept that the group as a whole is more knowledgeable about Samters than

any of the doctors you will ever encounter

- yourself search for and review the relevant material that has accumlated

here over the last many years.

>

> I mentioned it to my consultant but he said that it doesn't always work and

> brushed it aside.

>

>

>>

>> You don't mention the obvious - desensitization to aspirin.

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My ENT and Immunologist both don’t do aspirin desensitisation

and I’ve yet to find a doctor anywhere that does in this country. I’ve

visited over a dozen throughout the past ten/fifteen years.

My current medication is Seritide morning and night, Nasonex

twice a day which has helped keep the polyps away so far after four years, and

ventolin and nebulizer when needed.

My ENT has put me on a totally salicylate free diet for three

weeks yet again to try and sort things out, so far a week down there’s

absolutely no difference, but my sleeping has improved. Headaches are a problem

because no doubt that’s the caffeine missing out of my daily 4 to 5 cups

now that I’ve switched to decaffe.

Here’s a copy of what he gave me that I typed out again as

it was on many pages, hope this is of help –it’s not an easy diet

but I’m willing to try it for a few weeks. You can have anything

from the low section and some from the moderate.

FRUIT

LOW

MODERATE

HIGH

VERY HIGH

Pears

Apple

– Golden Red Delicious

Apple – Granny

Avocado

Bananas

Mango

Apricot

Kiwi

Paw

Paw

Pear

– can in juice

Lychee

Mandarin

Rhubarb

Peach

Orange

Tamarillo

Rockmelon

Passionfruit

Custard

Apple

Watermelon

Pineapple

Loquat

Lemon

Grapes

Tomato

Date

Grapefruit

Rasberry

Tangelo

Prune

Plum

Raisins / Sultanas

VEGETABLES

Bamboo

Shoots

Beetroot

Alfalfa

Cauliflower

Cabbage

Carrots

Capsicum

Gherkins

Celery

Chinese

Vegetables

Chilli

Olives

Chives

Parsnip

Corn

Broccoli

Beans

Potato

– Red

Cucumber

Mushrooms

Peas

Pumpkin

Onion

Spinach

Leek

Snow

Peas / Sprouts

Zucchini

Tomato

Lettuce

Sweet

Potato

Artichoke

Broad Bean

Mungbean

Sprouts

Asparagus

Chickory

Egg Plant

Parsley

Marrow

Endive

Champignon

Potato

White

Turnip

Watercress

Cabbage

Red

Shallots

Swede

CEREALS / GRAINS

Barley

Any with:

Buckwheat

Honey/nuts/coconut/fruit

Cornflour

Cornflakes

Malt

Cornmeal

Rice

Polenta

Wheat

Nutrigrain

Rice

cereals

Rolled

oats

Rice

/Soy /Rye flour

FATS & OILS

Butter

Almond oil

Coconut oil

Ghee

Corn oil

Copha

Margarine

Peanut oil

Olive oil

Sunflower

Sesame oil

Canola

Walnut

LOW

MODERATE

HIGH

VERY HIGH

DRINKS

Carob

Powder

Fruit juices

Cordials

Cow

milk

Soft drinks

Goat

milk

Fruit flavoured drinks

Lemonade

/ 7UP

Cola drinks

Soy

milk

Orange juice

Cocoa

powder

Tomato juice

Choc.

flavoured

Vegetable juice

TEA & COFFEE

Decaf.

coffee

Coffee

Tea

Tea – decaf., herbal

Peppermint tea

ALCOHOL

Gin

Beer

Vodka

Cider

Whiskey

Liqueur

Port

Rum

Sherry

All wine

JAMS / SPREADS

Caramels

Molasses

Chewing gum

Carob

Raw

sugar

Fruit flavoured anything

Golden

syrup

Honey

Malt

extract

Jams – all

Maple

syrup

Liquorice

Sugar

Mint flavoured anything

Toffee

Peppermints

Rice

syrup

Lemon butter

Chocolate

NUTS & SNACKS

Cashews

Corn

chips

Brazil

Fruit flavours

Plain

crips

Tacos

Coconut

Honey

Pretzels

Hazelnuts

Muesli bars

Macadamia

Spicy flavours

Peanuts

Almonds

Pecans

Pinenuts

Pistachio

Roasted cashews

Sesame seeds

Sunflower seeds

Walnuts

LOW

MODERATE

HIGH

VERY HIGH

HERBS, SPICES ETC.

Chives

Allspice

Tandoori

Garlic

Aniseed

Vinegar

Parsley

Basil

Gravies

Poppy

seeds

Bayleaf

Pastes – tomato etc.

Saffron

Cardamon

Sauces – all

Salt

Carraway

Stock cubes

Shallots

Cayenne

Tomato sauce

Vanilla

Cinnamon

Vegemite

Malt

vinegar

Clove

Soy

sauce

Coriander

Soy

paste

Cumin

Citric

Acid

Curry

Oyster

sauce

Dill

Fish

sauce

Five spice

Garam Masala

Ginger

Mace

Mint

Mixed herbs

Mustard

Nutmeg

Oregano

Paprika

Pepper

Pimento

Rosemary

Sage

Thyme

Tumeric

SAFE FOODS

Chicken Ice

cream

Eggs Natural

yoghurt (no fruit)

Fish

Meat

Exceptions being:

Devon / luncheon meats

Meat pies

Salami

Sausages

Seasoned meat

Seasoned chicken

AVOID

All aspirin preparations, Menthol, Eucalyptus, Cough syrups and lozenges,

Herbal remedies, flavoured toothpaste.

From: kdcurlywurly12

[mailto:kdcurlywurly@...]

Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 7:45 AM

samters

Subject: Re: Help

I mentioned it to my consultant but he said

that it doesn't always work and brushed it aside.

>

> > Hi

> >

> > After suffering with nasal congestion and discomfort for 18mths and

my GP telling me I had hayfever, I was finally referred to an ENT consultant.

> >

> > He diagnosed Nasal Polyps and Samters Triad. I had septoplasty and

FESS surgery. Sadly the polyps quickly grew back and fast forward 4 years I

have now had 3 more FESS operations.

> >

> > My last of which was at the end of March. Sadly my polyps have grown

back within 8 weeks.

> >

> > I am currently taking Cetirizine, singulair, seretide 125, ventolin,

betnesol and for 10 days (I am 2 days in) Prednisolone. I have taken steroids

in short bursts over the last four years but this is the first time on this

one. I am not really comfortable with taking these and am hoping for some

advice.

> >

> > My quality of life is at times very poor.

> >

> > Does anyone have any hints, info, dietary tips etc.

> >

> > I also douche my nose daily with salt and bicarbonate of soda.

> >

> > I look forward to hearing from you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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I have thought until this point that my Polyps will not grow back. This week,

finding that they are returning more quickly each time, I have decided I need to

do some research. This is my first step. I have never been a member of one of

these groups before and thought it would be useful for me.

I take your comments on board.

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> >> You don't mention the obvious - desensitization to aspirin.

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