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Look in the yellow pages if you haven't already. Do you live in Atlanta, or on

the outskirts? I wish I had some names for you, but I know you can find

someone on the internet. I will try to find some names, but in the meantime

stick to your guns and look for a homeopath. My son had bronchitis and our

homeopath had him cured in two days!! Good luck to you.

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Here is the only homeopath on my list for Georgia.

Lavery RSHom (NA)

77 East s Drive #203

Atlanta, GA 30305

404-841-9119

E-mail: skl@...

Hope this helps!

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help

I am hoping someone can help me find a naturopath/homeopath. I live in

the Atlanta area. My 5yo Sierra has a cold and cough( to the point of

vomiting). I have not had any positive experiences with MD's here, mostly

because she has not been vaccinated. If anyone could help i would

appreciate it.

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E mail groups

http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/discussion_forums.html

Internet groups

http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/critics.html

More here

http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/groups.html

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>From: Reiss <lisa@...>

>

>I have someone who would like to contact many of the vaccine groups/get

>on email lists. I know there was a list of many, MANY:) groups all over

>the states and the world..and I have been pulling my hair out for the

>last hour. Anyone have it that they could repost it? Thanks a ton

>

> in CT

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Fluid retention is dangerous. When your wife is home again, add 'Milk

Thistle' to the protocol. It helps the liver function. My friend who has

cancer in the liver, lungs and bones had this problem

and was in the hospital. The doctors told his wife there wasn't really

anything they could

do to prevent it as it was part of the cancer symptoms. When he came home

she put him on Milk Thistle and there has been no more of this fluid

retention problem in over 6 weeks.

I do not have cancer but saved myself from a liver biopsy. I had elevated

liver enzymes and

took this for 3 months and when I went back the tests were normal and the

biopsy was not

done.

Doris

help

> i need some help here... i have been giving my wife cantron, b-17 and

> all that goes with it..my wife has breast cancer with matastisis to

> liver..

> she is in hospital now where the doctor has removed a lot of fluid

> from her liver.. the doctor said that the fluid was from the liver

> cancer... my question is is it possible that the alternative is killing

> the

> cancer tumors on her liver and this fluid is the residue left from the

> dead cancer from her liver... in other words is this fluid a good thing,

>

> or is this fluid a bad thing.... someone please help me out with this

> situation.... mike

>

>

>

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Hello to Biplane, or whoever had the Metastasis from breast cancer. That is

one of the blessings of Clodronate (and Aredia) that it stops the bone

invasion of breast and Multiple Myoloma bone lesions. It tells about it in

the Protocol I mentioned in a prior email, from Life Extension, Jan. 1999

Issue, phone 1-800-226-2370. The IV Aredia only has been approved in the

US, but they have been using the Clodronate Caps by mouth (or IV if you are

out of the country-ie France,Germany,UK,Mexico or Canada and etc.) safely

for 18 years. The Pharmucidical Co's can't patent it,thus profit from it,

so it is not available in the US. It takes some time to read the research

of the Protocol, but we have to heal ourselves and we must be knowledable

to do so. Yours,Liz

>> out of the system......I have no information on that....It may be

>> true....Ginny

>> help

>>

>> >i need some help here... i have been giving my wife cantron, b-17 and

>> >all that goes with it..my wife has breast cancer with matastisis to

>> >liver..

>> >she is in hospital now where the doctor has removed a lot of fluid

>> >from her liver.. the doctor said that the fluid was from the liver

>> >cancer... my question is is it possible that the alternative is killing

>> >the

>> >cancer tumors on her liver and this fluid is the residue left from the

>> >dead cancer from her liver... in other words is this fluid a good thing,

>> >

>> >or is this fluid a bad thing.... someone please help me out with this

>> >situation.... mike

>> >

>> >

>> >

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Mike....I just read in the cancer groups mail that essiac tea washes cantron

out of the system......I have no information on that....It may be

true....Ginny

help

>i need some help here... i have been giving my wife cantron, b-17 and

>all that goes with it..my wife has breast cancer with matastisis to

>liver..

>she is in hospital now where the doctor has removed a lot of fluid

>from her liver.. the doctor said that the fluid was from the liver

>cancer... my question is is it possible that the alternative is killing

>the

>cancer tumors on her liver and this fluid is the residue left from the

>dead cancer from her liver... in other words is this fluid a good thing,

>

>or is this fluid a bad thing.... someone please help me out with this

>situation.... mike

>

>

>

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thanks Ginny i took her off the essiac tea when she went on cantron.. the

cantron people say essiac is contraindicated with cantron.. she started on the

tea right after her mastectomy.. she started the cantron because her breast

cancer metastasized to her liver and did not seem to be stopping the cancer... i

thank you for your input.. maybe some folks who have been using cantron or

essiac for mast. liver cancer will respond... mike

Ginny Darby wrote:

> Mike....I just read in the cancer groups mail that essiac tea washes cantron

> out of the system......I have no information on that....It may be

> true....Ginny

> help

>

> >i need some help here... i have been giving my wife cantron, b-17 and

> >all that goes with it..my wife has breast cancer with matastisis to

> >liver..

> >she is in hospital now where the doctor has removed a lot of fluid

> >from her liver.. the doctor said that the fluid was from the liver

> >cancer... my question is is it possible that the alternative is killing

> >the

> >cancer tumors on her liver and this fluid is the residue left from the

> >dead cancer from her liver... in other words is this fluid a good thing,

> >

> >or is this fluid a bad thing.... someone please help me out with this

> >situation.... mike

> >

> >

> >

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thank you so much doris i will try milk thistle when my wife comes home

today... do you know the mg. per day that your friend is useing?please

advise.... thanks mike

Doris wrote:

> Fluid retention is dangerous. When your wife is home again, add 'Milk

> Thistle' to the protocol. It helps the liver function. My friend who has

> cancer in the liver, lungs and bones had this problem

> and was in the hospital. The doctors told his wife there wasn't really

> anything they could

> do to prevent it as it was part of the cancer symptoms. When he came home

> she put him on Milk Thistle and there has been no more of this fluid

> retention problem in over 6 weeks.

>

> I do not have cancer but saved myself from a liver biopsy. I had elevated

> liver enzymes and

> took this for 3 months and when I went back the tests were normal and the

> biopsy was not

> done.

>

> Doris

>

> help

>

> > i need some help here... i have been giving my wife cantron, b-17 and

> > all that goes with it..my wife has breast cancer with matastisis to

> > liver..

> > she is in hospital now where the doctor has removed a lot of fluid

> > from her liver.. the doctor said that the fluid was from the liver

> > cancer... my question is is it possible that the alternative is killing

> > the

> > cancer tumors on her liver and this fluid is the residue left from the

> > dead cancer from her liver... in other words is this fluid a good thing,

> >

> > or is this fluid a bad thing.... someone please help me out with this

> > situation.... mike

> >

> >

> >

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Hi , I am fairly new to this program as well, I have joined a couple

of weeks ago. My dad was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer at the end of

July. Radiation and chemo were not possible. They put in a metal stent in

his bile duct to keep the bile flowing. According to his catskan, etc it

was just in the pancreas. I think there is about 10% chance of living after

a year. The average person with pancreatic cancer lives between 4 - 6

months. As soon as we found out dad had pancreatic cancer, we changed his

diet. He is on fruit and vegetables. It is very important to juice lots of

fruit and vegetables. It took me about two more weeks to find Dr.

Kelley on the internet, a dentist, who had a program. He no longer

practices due to being discredited, etc. but his book is called " One answer

to cancer " and can be downloaded from the internet. Dad had lost 40 pounds,

he just couldn't keep his weight on. Your dad needs to detoxify his colon

a.s.a.p. and other organs. When the colon is full of crud, it doesn't

matter how healthy you eat, or the supplements you take because they will

not be absorbed. So Detoxifying the body should be a priorty. Dad has not

lost any weight since he has been detoxifying his body. Please read this

book. Dr. which you can find on the internet is also

basically following Kelley's program. Please look into him as well. I

personally talk to Dr. Kelley (who is now 74 years old) on a steady basis

for advice because things just don't go smoothly all the time - you feel

like you are on a roller coaster. I know this sounds bizarre, and a bit

unbelievable but I urge you to look into this program. My dad just had

another catskan and the tumour hasn't shrunk, (which Dr. Kelley believes

pancreatic enzymes disolve the cancer - he personally makes them) but it

hasn't grown either. This is quite remarkable because pancreatic cancer is

very, very aggressive and can be quite painful. Dad takes a coffee enemas

every morning. Just please read the book to find out more info. My dad

said he wouldn't do these enemas, but quickly changed his mind when Dr.

Kelley told me you might as well not buy the enzymes if he isn't going to do

the coffee enemas because he will die anyways. Coffee enemas detoxify the

body and stimulates the liver, bile duct etc. I am not very good at

explaining this, but I hope you look into it. My dad is also taking alot of

corral calcium, magnesium, vitamin D (needed for absorption of calcium),

vitamin c, e, cessium salts. Another book you will want to look into is the

" The Calcium Factor " by Barefoot and Carl Reisch. It sounds too

simple to believe having deficient calcium can do, but I went to a seminar

in Calgary that he happened to be at, and listening to him speak, makes a

lot of sense. My Dad is hyped right up on this calcium thing. I am sorry

to hear about your dad. It is very, very trying. If you have any

questions, please e-mail me. Best wishes,

help

>Hi, I'm new here. A few weeks ago my dad discovered that he has a rare form

>of cancer, I believe its cancer of the pancreas. He just came out of

>surgery a couple of weeks ago after the doctors cut out many pieces of the

>surrounding organs and back as the cancer had spread aggressively. So far

>the doctors have told us that only about 20-30% of these cases survive up

>to 5 years. They've also said they dont know of any treatments at this time

>that can help him.

>

>Does anyone know someone who suffers from the same problem?

>

>Has anyone heard of any new experimental treatments that could help him? At

>this point we're willing to try anything.

>

>

>thanks

>

>

>steph

>

>-------------------------------------------------------

>Stephan Paternot

>

>

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thanks so much for writing. I'm trying to learn everything I can as fast as

possible. It helps to hear the opinions and advice of others.

I just wish there was some experimental treatment somewhere in the world

that could help.

thanks

steph

At 01:58 PM 10/4/99 -0600, you wrote:

>Hi , I am fairly new to this program as well, I have joined a couple

>of weeks ago. My dad was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer at the end of

>July. Radiation and chemo were not possible. They put in a metal stent in

>his bile duct to keep the bile flowing. According to his catskan, etc it

>was just in the pancreas. I think there is about 10% chance of living after

>a year. The average person with pancreatic cancer lives between 4 - 6

>months. As soon as we found out dad had pancreatic cancer, we changed his

>diet. He is on fruit and vegetables. It is very important to juice lots of

>fruit and vegetables. It took me about two more weeks to find Dr.

>Kelley on the internet, a dentist, who had a program. He no longer

>practices due to being discredited, etc. but his book is called " One answer

>to cancer " and can be downloaded from the internet. Dad had lost 40 pounds,

>he just couldn't keep his weight on. Your dad needs to detoxify his colon

>a.s.a.p. and other organs. When the colon is full of crud, it doesn't

>matter how healthy you eat, or the supplements you take because they will

>not be absorbed. So Detoxifying the body should be a priorty. Dad has not

>lost any weight since he has been detoxifying his body. Please read this

>book. Dr. which you can find on the internet is also

>basically following Kelley's program. Please look into him as well. I

>personally talk to Dr. Kelley (who is now 74 years old) on a steady basis

>for advice because things just don't go smoothly all the time - you feel

>like you are on a roller coaster. I know this sounds bizarre, and a bit

>unbelievable but I urge you to look into this program. My dad just had

>another catskan and the tumour hasn't shrunk, (which Dr. Kelley believes

>pancreatic enzymes disolve the cancer - he personally makes them) but it

>hasn't grown either. This is quite remarkable because pancreatic cancer is

>very, very aggressive and can be quite painful. Dad takes a coffee enemas

>every morning. Just please read the book to find out more info. My dad

>said he wouldn't do these enemas, but quickly changed his mind when Dr.

>Kelley told me you might as well not buy the enzymes if he isn't going to do

>the coffee enemas because he will die anyways. Coffee enemas detoxify the

>body and stimulates the liver, bile duct etc. I am not very good at

>explaining this, but I hope you look into it. My dad is also taking alot of

>corral calcium, magnesium, vitamin D (needed for absorption of calcium),

>vitamin c, e, cessium salts. Another book you will want to look into is the

> " The Calcium Factor " by Barefoot and Carl Reisch. It sounds too

>simple to believe having deficient calcium can do, but I went to a seminar

>in Calgary that he happened to be at, and listening to him speak, makes a

>lot of sense. My Dad is hyped right up on this calcium thing. I am sorry

>to hear about your dad. It is very, very trying. If you have any

>questions, please e-mail me. Best wishes,

> help

>

>

>>Hi, I'm new here. A few weeks ago my dad discovered that he has a rare form

>>of cancer, I believe its cancer of the pancreas. He just came out of

>>surgery a couple of weeks ago after the doctors cut out many pieces of the

>>surrounding organs and back as the cancer had spread aggressively. So far

>>the doctors have told us that only about 20-30% of these cases survive up

>>to 5 years. They've also said they dont know of any treatments at this time

>>that can help him.

>>

>>Does anyone know someone who suffers from the same problem?

>>

>>Has anyone heard of any new experimental treatments that could help him? At

>>this point we're willing to try anything.

>>

>>

>>thanks

>>

>>

>>steph

>>

>>-------------------------------------------------------

>>Stephan Paternot

>>

>>

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>>

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thanks for the input.... i am within days like maybe 2 to decide on chemo for

my wife.. the doctor says she only has 2 or 3 more weeks to live... so although

we have tried a lot of different alteritives they don't seem to be doing

anything... i am desperate...have you or any one else ever had experence with

tian xian from china... all there literature looks pretty good...

lot of testimonials

wrote:

> >

> Hello to Biplane, or whoever had the Metastasis from breast cancer. That is

> one of the blessings of Clodronate (and Aredia) that it stops the bone

> invasion of breast and Multiple Myoloma bone lesions. It tells about it in

> the Protocol I mentioned in a prior email, from Life Extension, Jan. 1999

> Issue, phone 1-800-226-2370. The IV Aredia only has been approved in the

> US, but they have been using the Clodronate Caps by mouth (or IV if you are

> out of the country-ie France,Germany,UK,Mexico or Canada and etc.) safely

> for 18 years. The Pharmucidical Co's can't patent it,thus profit from it,

> so it is not available in the US. It takes some time to read the research

> of the Protocol, but we have to heal ourselves and we must be knowledable

> to do so. Yours,Liz

> >> out of the system......I have no information on that....It may be

> >> true....Ginny

> >> help

> >>

> >> >i need some help here... i have been giving my wife cantron, b-17 and

> >> >all that goes with it..my wife has breast cancer with matastisis to

> >> >liver..

> >> >she is in hospital now where the doctor has removed a lot of fluid

> >> >from her liver.. the doctor said that the fluid was from the liver

> >> >cancer... my question is is it possible that the alternative is killing

> >> >the

> >> >cancer tumors on her liver and this fluid is the residue left from the

> >> >dead cancer from her liver... in other words is this fluid a good thing,

> >> >

> >> >or is this fluid a bad thing.... someone please help me out with this

> >> >situation.... mike

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------

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There have been good testimonials on cantron/cancell, so I assume the liquid

is good news.

http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jinouy01

Go to Nutrition and look at the diets used. Also, Mannatech has good

products. Another product I heard is good is 911. Or you can try Essiac,

etc.

biplane4@... wrote:

> i need some help here... i have been giving my wife cantron, b-17 and

> all that goes with it..my wife has breast cancer with matastisis to

> liver..

> she is in hospital now where the doctor has removed a lot of fluid

> from her liver.. the doctor said that the fluid was from the liver

> cancer... my question is is it possible that the alternative is killing

> the

> cancer tumors on her liver and this fluid is the residue left from the

> dead cancer from her liver... in other words is this fluid a good thing,

>

> or is this fluid a bad thing.... someone please help me out with this

> situation.... mike

>

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http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jinouy01

Go to Nutrition, and look at some of the diets and products. Also, Mannatech

Inc. has good products. You could also try Essiac, RisoTriene, complete powder

mixture, etc.

Stephan Paternot wrote:

> Hi, I'm new here. A few weeks ago my dad discovered that he has a rare form

> of cancer, I believe its cancer of the pancreas. He just came out of

> surgery a couple of weeks ago after the doctors cut out many pieces of the

> surrounding organs and back as the cancer had spread aggressively. So far

> the doctors have told us that only about 20-30% of these cases survive up

> to 5 years. They've also said they dont know of any treatments at this time

> that can help him.

>

> Does anyone know someone who suffers from the same problem?

>

> Has anyone heard of any new experimental treatments that could help him? At

> this point we're willing to try anything.

>

> thanks

>

> steph

>

> -------------------------------------------------------

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Check the website http://www.best.com/~handpen/Cancell/cancell.htm

Carol fr NJ. My husband has pancreatic cancer (removed) surfaced in the

liver.

Said no to another round of chemo. I spoke with several people who were

cured from several types of cancer with Cantron. But can't recommend

anything. My husband was bothered by blood clot complciations, so Cantron

may be washed out of his system with the saline solutions and blood thinners.

Currently using an alterntive clinic in NY State who uses the Dr. Revici

compounds. So far he seems to be doing well.

My prayers are with you.

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Have ordered Rife #2, but didn't get yet. Have candida, and serious colon

issues.

I will let you know.

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Tammie

I have only experience with Immunocal, as I am sure the others that

know of the other things that you have listed can speak for them and

tell you what they know. I have a question for you. Have you spoke to

anyone at Immunotec about your fathers health? I would recomend that

you do so. If you want to know the numbers to contact give me a shout

and I will pass them on to you.

hamonicd@... I think sometimes it is best to find out from

the Doctor's at the company about the usage of this for a paticular

person, such as your father and his condition. It is heart breaking

that your father must face these challenges, but it is wonderful that

he has a daughter who is going the extra mile to ensure his well being.

Wishing you the best

Debbie

" tammie " <schrei-@...> wrote:

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> My father has had lung cancer for 4 1/2 years which has just recently

> enlarged and also mestasized to both his brain and bones. He's had 2

> surgeries and has done numerous treatments of radiation and chemo.

For

> the past 2 years he has begun to take supplements and has recently

> changed his diet to natural foods, all vegetation, no dairy, etc.

> Because the cancer has gone to his brain, his doctor would like start

> radiation and also chemo (again) to try to shrink lung tumor. What

are

> anyone's thought on this? Will he possibly do more " damage " by the

> radiation/chemo? Also, are there any side effects or precautions he

> should be aware of w/the current herbal therapies he's on:

>

> Agaricus Mushrooms

> Immune Response Powder

> Vita-C Option

> Andrograthis Paniculata

> Ozonated Geranium Oil

> Nitrogenated Soy Option

> Immunocal

> T-Factor Plus

> Fiber Max

>

> I would greatly appreciate ANY help!

> Thank you--

>

> Tammie

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http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jinouy01

On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, tammie wrote:

> My father has had lung cancer for 4 1/2 years which has just recently

> enlarged and also mestasized to both his brain and bones. He's had 2

> surgeries and has done numerous treatments of radiation and chemo. For

> the past 2 years he has begun to take supplements and has recently

> changed his diet to natural foods, all vegetation, no dairy, etc.

> Because the cancer has gone to his brain, his doctor would like start

> radiation and also chemo (again) to try to shrink lung tumor. What are

> anyone's thought on this? Will he possibly do more " damage " by the

> radiation/chemo? Also, are there any side effects or precautions he

> should be aware of w/the current herbal therapies he's on:

>

> Agaricus Mushrooms

> Immune Response Powder

> Vita-C Option

> Andrograthis Paniculata

> Ozonated Geranium Oil

> Nitrogenated Soy Option

> Immunocal

> T-Factor Plus

> Fiber Max

>

> I would greatly appreciate ANY help!

> Thank you--

>

> Tammie

>

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You send a FOIA to FDA and you will get a list of VAERS reports, minus the

identifying information.

Meryl

Alisa Lee wrote:

> From: " Alisa Lee " <garynalisa@...>

>

> Does anyone know how to get a list of people that have filed vaers on

> the vaccine. I know I filed out one and sent it in and I would like

> to know if there is a way I can see if mine has been filed or if it

> was lost. Oh I have also changed e-mail address so be sure to update.

> Have to cut all I can due to new medical bills that have come up due

> to this.

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Alisa,

I have the VAERS reportings as of August 1999. If your report was filed on

or before that date I should be able to tell you if it your report is

there. I will be contacting the FDA this week to obtain a current report.

Feel free to give me a call, happy to help.

Lori Greenleaf

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Alisa,

You can call them directly and ask if your form has been filed. The

VAERS staff is very helpful and will do what they can to assist you. They

are really on this so please give them a call instead of worrying yourself

to death. VAERS information line 1-800-822-7967.

I wish you improved health. I have been where you are and I understand

what you must be going through. Please feel free to contact me off line if

you should need anything else. I know the hell I went through when my

illness first started.

In Christ,

Bob

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> From: " Alisa Lee " <garynalisa@...>

>

> Does anyone know how to get a list of people that have filed vaers on

> the vaccine. I know I filed out one and sent it in and I would like

> to know if there is a way I can see if mine has been filed or if it

> was lost. Oh I have also changed e-mail address so be sure to update.

> Have to cut all I can due to new medical bills that have come up due

> to this.

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The list will not have names. It is confidential. You'll only be able to

see birthdates, Lot Numbers, gender, symptoms and states. That should

pinpoint you out, though. File a FOIA to the FDA. It cost me nothing to get

it.

<< Does anyone know how to get a list of people that have filed vaers on

the vaccine. I know I filed out one and sent it in and I would like

to know if there is a way I can see if mine has been filed or if it

was lost. Oh I have also changed e-mail address so be sure to update.

Have to cut all I can due to new medical bills that have come up due

to this. >>

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Hi Faiz,

I could not find the last message I sent you, I must have deleted it. So here are my answers again. I will try to answer each below your question.

Take good care of yourself.

Hi Rashelle,

I really enjoy your tape for beginners and I have been doing the LL breathing every morning. I notice some changes in my thigh and rear but no change in my waist and stomach area which are the most problematic area. I have some questions though that need your explaination:

I am happy that you are enjoying the first video. It sounds like you are not flexing your abdomen enough, the mid section is usually the first to go when you do Life Lift correctly.

1. Do I need to do LL breathing more than once a day to see some results?

Those who do Life Lift more often do see faster and more dramatic results. If you can add some in to your daily scedule, when in your shower or bath, at your computer, while brushing your hair, it does seem to help.

2. I do not perspire or feel light headed when doing LL, am I doing it wrongly?

Most do feel a little rush, but it is not necessary. I would say that it sounds like you are doing it ok since you have lost from your thighs and rear, but you could work on slowing down each step and being more precise with each movement. Be sure you complete each step. In other words when you breathe out through on the first step, be sure you are totally empty before you start the sniff up. Same on the Pah, be sure you are totally empty before you go to hold your breath.

3. There is no inch lose around my stomach, waist and arms. They are still flabby and there is no tightness. My lower abs is like a pouch.

I know you have only had your video a short few weeks so perhaps it will just take some time, however I think you are not flexing or stretching enough and you may not be completing each step. Work on that.

4. I feel some chest pain. Why?

You should absolutely not be feeling chest pain, or any other pain for that matter. Perhaps you should consult a doctor to see if you have a medical problem.

5. My breath is sometimes short which never happen before. Why?

This should definitely not be happening. If anything Life Lift expands the lungs and makes them stronger so you should find it easier to breathe. This is why people with ashma and other breathing problems experience such wonderful results with the Lift Lift breaths. It sounds again like you are not doing your Life Lift breaths correctly. I know that you originally learned from reading the board and perhaps you picked up some incorrect habit. Be sure to watch the video closeley and check yourself against my timing to be sure you are completing each and every step before you begin the next one.

6. I do not feel any mucsle sore. Am I on the right track?

Some do feel sore, most do not. Muscle soreness comes from a build up of lactic acid in the body. This is also the cause of some cellulite on people's bodies. Often you will see very athletic women with cellulite all over their thighs even thought their muscles are very firm. It is because they have built up too much lactic acid. The oxygen flush usually prevents this and breaks down the lactic acid, this is many do not feel sore after even an intense workout with Life Lift.

It is fine if you are a little sore, but it is also fine if you are not. That is not a good way to guage if you are doing it correctly.

Hope you could help me to lose some inches especially for my flabby stomach and arms. Is there any special exercise for upper and lower abdomen that really works?

You might try some leg lifts for both areas of your abdomen. Be very, very careful with your back if you decide to do these. Life Lift by itself, if being done correctly should be working on the entire abdomen. There are several good exercises for your arms in the video. The prayer is great and if you bring it back over your head and hold while in the lift, you will get both the front and back of your arms. This is mostly what I do and even at almost 56 years old, I have been able to maintain no flab on my arms and plenty of definition. Just press firmly with the palms of your hands against each other. The other good one is with your hands on your hips, pull your elbows toward each other. This is also in the video. This is also terrific for your back, around the bra line.

Also, I need help for my obese son. He is 7 years old and weighs 44kg. How can you help me to help him reduce his weight problem. I am really worried about his condition and your help is very much appreciated.

I would say that the Oxygen Zoo children's video would be great for him. I have had many, many really wonderful messages about the children's video. It is actually a wonderful workout for you too. It has a 20 minute workout on it, with many different positions from the original video you are now using, so it will give you great variety. It also has many good ideas on eating right, drinking water and it is in story form so children and adults alike will be both entertained and educated at the same time. It is filled with self esteem building tools which can often be the root of the problem in the first place. It is fun and easy to do, so I would recommend it highly for him. I have heard some very wonderful stories from parents who's children are using it. It is meant to help change total life style leading to overweight and unhealthy children. The idea is to help them see everything about being healthy and fit and fun instead of a challenge.

I hope you will find some time to answer my questions because you help is much needed, please. I want to be as successful as Tami, Karma and the rest of your clients.

I want you to have great results too!

Take care, Rashelle

Regards, Faiz.

Re: thigh exercisesFrom: "Rashelle Haines" <rashelle@...>

Thanks Jill,

These are great. For those using Life Lift, these would be great to combine for variety.

Take care, Rashelle

thigh exercises

From: Cliff and Jill Todd <clifftodd@...>

I found these thigh exercises on a on website and I thought they might help some of you (and me!!) to lose a little in that stubborn thigh area. I like to change my routine often so I am always looking for new exercises to use in conjunction with Body Flex. I hope you all like them, I haven't tried them yet, but they look interesting.

Jill in TN

Exercise 1 Equipment: A chair with a flat back

Stand with your back to the chair as if you were getting ready to sit down. Your calves should be touching the chair. Put your weight on your heels and crouch down without sitting. Try to get the back of your thighs to touch the chair. Keep your back straight. Repeat the exercise 20 times.

Exercise 2 Equipment: A chair with a flat back

Sit upright on the floor with your legs stretched out in front of you. Place the chair at your feet so that each leg is on the outside of the legs of the chair. Using the inner thigh, press legs together and hold for 10 seconds. Let the muscles relax and repeat 20 times.

Exercise 3 Equipment: A chair or table for balancing

Stand erect with your legs and shoulders equal width apart. Balance yourself with your left leg and for added support place your left hand on a chair or table. Put your right hand on your hip. Slightly bend the left leg so as not to hyperextend it. Keeping the right leg straight, cross it over in front of the left leg. Stop the motion when the inner thigh contracts, then hold the pose for one second. Return the right leg to the starting position. Repeat 10 to 15 times, then switch legs.

Exercise 4 Equipment: A chair, leg weights (optional)

Sit on the chair with both legs bent in front of you. Extend right leg out straight in front of you, even with the thigh. Point toes upwards and squeeze leg at the top of the movement. Hold for one second. Lower the leg back down to the ground. Repeat 8 to 10 times. Then do the same for the left leg. Exhale on the upward movement and inhale on the downward movement. To increase resistance, add ankle weights.

Exercise 5 Equipment: A chair or table for balance Stand erect with weight on the left leg and left hand on a chair or table for balancing. Place right hand on hip. Keep right leg straight while moving that leg away from your body towards the right. When the leg reaches a point where you feel a contraction in the area of the buttocks, stop the motion and hold for one second. Then return the leg to the starting position. This will constitute one repetition. Perform 10 to 15 repetitions, then switch legs.

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Dear Rashelle and Faiz,

I think you are correct about not having the timing right. When I was

" trying " LL before I got the tape I would get very out of breath.

This seemed to be from the fact that I was not blowing out through

the " straw " before the inhale and " pah " . I have to say if I " pah "

very hard sometimes I will cough but I figure that's a " good thing "

(if you'll pardon the Martha you-know-who reference) to get things

cleaned out.

Rashelle, you would be pleased to know I was finally able to kick the

diet soda. I think this was because once I started the tapes and

doing things more correctly I began to really crave water. My cup of

tea in the morning seems to be sufficient for avoiding the headache.

Also...the kids were teasing me yesterday: I am going to make a

wedding cake for a friend later in April and she wants candied

violets on her cake. I now have some blooming in my garden and I

dutifully mixed up the meringue powder and began painting the mixture

on the little flowers standing at the kitchen counter. I was doing my

LL breaths for just the regular abdominal lifts...one for each

flower, 40 flowers done...cake decorations, courtesy of Martha

you-know-who....body by Rashelle! Haha!

Puh, everyone!

Libby

>

>

> Hi Faiz,

> I could not find the last message I sent you, I must have deleted

it. So here are my answers again. I will try to answer each below

your question.

> Take good care of yourself.

>

>

> Hi Rashelle,

> I really enjoy your tape for beginners and I have been doing the

LL breathing every morning. I notice some changes in my thigh and

rear but no change in my waist and stomach area which are the most

problematic area. I have some questions though that need your

explaination:

>

> I am happy that you are enjoying the first video. It sounds like

you are not flexing your abdomen enough, the mid section is usually

the first to go when you do Life Lift correctly.

>

> 1. Do I need to do LL breathing more than once a day to see some

results?

>

> Those who do Life Lift more often do see faster and more dramatic

results. If you can add some in to your daily scedule, when in your

shower or bath, at your computer, while brushing your hair, it does

seem to help.

>

> 2. I do not perspire or feel light headed when doing LL, am I

doing it wrongly?

>

> Most do feel a little rush, but it is not necessary. I would say

that it sounds like you are doing it ok since you have lost from your

thighs and rear, but you could work on slowing down each step and

being more precise with each movement. Be sure you complete each

step. In other words when you breathe out through on the first step,

be sure you are totally empty before you start the sniff up. Same on

the Pah, be sure you are totally empty before you go to hold your

breath.

>

> 3. There is no inch lose around my stomach, waist and arms. They

are still flabby and there is no tightness. My lower abs is like a

pouch.

>

> I know you have only had your video a short few weeks so perhaps it

will just take some time, however I think you are not flexing or

stretching enough and you may not be completing each step. Work on

that.

>

> 4. I feel some chest pain. Why?

>

> You should absolutely not be feeling chest pain, or any other pain

for that matter. Perhaps you should consult a doctor to see if you

have a medical problem.

>

> 5. My breath is sometimes short which never happen before. Why?

>

> This should definitely not be happening. If anything Life Lift

expands the lungs and makes them stronger so you should find it

easier to breathe. This is why people with ashma and other breathing

problems experience such wonderful results with the Lift Lift

breaths. It sounds again like you are not doing your Life Lift

breaths correctly. I know that you originally learned from reading

the board and perhaps you picked up some incorrect habit. Be sure to

watch the video closeley and check yourself against my timing to be

sure you are completing each and every step before you begin the next

one.

> 6. I do not feel any mucsle sore. Am I on the right track?

>

> Some do feel sore, most do not. Muscle soreness comes from a build

up of lactic acid in the body. This is also the cause of some

cellulite on people's bodies. Often you will see very athletic women

with cellulite all over their thighs even thought their muscles are

very firm. It is because they have built up too much lactic acid. The

oxygen flush usually prevents this and breaks down the lactic acid,

this is many do not feel sore after even an intense workout with Life

Lift.

> It is fine if you are a little sore, but it is also fine if you are

not. That is not a good way to guage if you are doing it correctly.

>

> Hope you could help me to lose some inches especially for my flabby

stomach and arms. Is there any special exercise for upper and lower

abdomen that really works?

>

> You might try some leg lifts for both areas of your abdomen. Be

very, very careful with your back if you decide to do these. Life

Lift by itself, if being done correctly should be working on the

entire abdomen. There are several good exercises for your arms in the

video. The prayer is great and if you bring it back over your head

and hold while in the lift, you will get both the front and back of

your arms. This is mostly what I do and even at almost 56 years old,

I have been able to maintain no flab on my arms and plenty of

definition. Just press firmly with the palms of your hands against

each other. The other good one is with your hands on your hips, pull

your elbows toward each other. This is also in the video. This is

also terrific for your back, around the bra line.

>

>

> Also, I need help for my obese son. He is 7 years old and weighs

44kg. How can you help me to help him reduce his weight problem. I

am really worried about his condition and your help is very much

appreciated.

>

> I would say that the Oxygen Zoo children's video would be great for

him. I have had many, many really wonderful messages about the

children's video. It is actually a wonderful workout for you too. It

has a 20 minute workout on it, with many different positions from the

original video you are now using, so it will give you great variety.

It also has many good ideas on eating right, drinking water and it is

in story form so children and adults alike will be both entertained

and educated at the same time. It is filled with self esteem building

tools which can often be the root of the problem in the first place.

It is fun and easy to do, so I would recommend it highly for him. I

have heard some very wonderful stories from parents who's children

are using it. It is meant to help change total life style leading to

overweight and unhealthy children. The idea is to help them see

everything about being healthy and fit and fun instead of a challenge.

>

> I hope you will find some time to answer my questions because you

help is much needed, please. I want to be as successful as Tami,

Karma and the rest of your clients.

> I want you to have great results too!

> Take care, Rashelle

> Regards, Faiz.

>

> Re: thigh exercises

>

>

> From: " Rashelle Haines " <rashelle@...>

>

>

> Thanks Jill,

> These are great. For those using Life Lift, these would be great

to combine for variety.

> Take care, Rashelle

> thigh exercises

>

>

> From: Cliff and Jill Todd <clifftodd@...>

>

>

> I found these thigh exercises on a on website and I thought

they might help some of you (and me!!) to lose a little in that

stubborn thigh area. I like to change my routine often so I am

always looking for new exercises to use in conjunction with Body

Flex. I hope you all like them, I haven't tried them yet, but they

look interesting.

>

> Jill in TN

>

> Exercise 1

>

> Equipment: A chair with a flat back

>

>

> Stand with your back to the chair as if you were getting ready

to sit down. Your calves should be touching the chair. Put your

weight on your heels and crouch down without sitting. Try to get the

back of your thighs to touch the chair. Keep your back straight.

Repeat the exercise 20 times.

>

>

> Exercise 2

>

> Equipment: A chair with a flat back

>

>

> Sit upright on the floor with your legs stretched out in front

of you. Place the chair at your feet so that each leg is on the

outside of the legs of the chair. Using the inner thigh, press legs

together and hold for 10 seconds. Let the muscles relax and repeat 20

times.

>

>

> Exercise 3

>

> Equipment: A chair or table for balancing

>

>

> Stand erect with your legs and shoulders equal width apart.

Balance yourself with your left leg and for added support place your

left hand on a chair or table. Put your right hand on your hip.

Slightly bend the left leg so as not to hyperextend it. Keeping the

right leg straight, cross it over in front of the left leg. Stop the

motion when the inner thigh contracts, then hold the pose for one

second. Return the right leg to the starting position. Repeat 10 to

15 times, then switch legs.

>

>

> Exercise 4

>

> Equipment: A chair, leg weights (optional)

>

>

> Sit on the chair with both legs bent in front of you. Extend

right leg out straight in front of you, even with the thigh. Point

toes upwards and squeeze leg at the top of the movement. Hold for one

second. Lower the leg back down to the ground. Repeat 8 to 10 times.

Then do the same for the left leg. Exhale on the upward movement and

inhale on the downward movement. To increase resistance, add ankle

weights.

>

>

> Exercise 5

>

> Equipment: A chair or table for balance

>

> Stand erect with weight on the left leg and left hand on a

chair or table for balancing. Place right hand on hip. Keep right leg

straight while moving that leg away from your body towards the right.

When the leg reaches a point where you feel a contraction in the area

of the buttocks, stop the motion and hold for one second. Then return

the leg to the starting position. This will constitute one

repetition. Perform 10 to 15 repetitions, then switch legs.

>

>

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Hey, shearules, 'sounds like you have a dilemna.

You are not able to control this situation, so DON'T

TRY. Your girlfriend has a few problems that need

addressing, so maybe I can help. I am a recovering alcoholic

(another type of drug addict), so I can identify with the

recreational drugs, but they WILL change the way that her

medications work. Either a " down " or an " up " will change

metabolism, and we are talking about a metabolic disease,

ie:thyroid. Also, she takes at least 2 other medications that

will react with her " meta " meds. The best I can

sugggest is a very simple pill box/schedule that will let

her line up her doses for the day or week. And attend

support group, BOTH of you, she for her addiction, and

you to " detatch with love " from the consequences of

HER choices. Good Luck, Man, you will need it, and so

will she. It is a long road to hoe. You can do it!

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