Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

Hi DZ

If they can't explain it. It doesn't happen.

Merry Christmas to you.

Re: [ ] (unknown)

> It's one of those things that doctors say patients

> don't experience, but patients say they do experience

> it. I complained of many things along the way that my

> dr said were not associated with the hcv. My opinion

> is that the dr's don't understand why it happens so

> they say that it doesn't happen. -dz-

>

> --- diane214@... wrote:

> > Hi Ada,

> > They say the liver isn't supposed to hurt but I

> > have pain 24/7 under

> > my right ribs and around my back..... Feels like a

> > toothache and burns

> > and throbs.... Sometimes feels like a stabbing pain.

> > We all have the

> > same complaint.... Seems to me that there is

> > something tied in there

> > somewhere.... The tiredness is also a symptom of Hep

> > C..... You don't

> > have to be on treatment to feel the symptoms....

> > Forgetfulness is also

> > associated with the Hep.... Hey....... Think I could

> > forget about

> > Christmas presents and blame it on the Hep C?

> > Wouldn't work would it?

> > LOL.... Hope we helped you out some...... Jan? Is

> > everything big in

> > Texas as the saying goes????? LOL

> >

> > Angel Hugs,

> > Diane

> >

> > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> > Peace & Unity

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi , What level was your daughter's dysbiosis? Evan's was a 4+ Our

pedia

and a nurse friend of mine both told me to treat the bacteria first

before continuing to chelate. Have you checked her stool since you've

been chelating further and since she first had bacteria? Happy Holidays!

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Dear Dawn,

I read your statement about no safe antidepressant. I am sorry that

I made the fuzzy statement to Mr.T.

Suzy

>From: " DAWN RIDER " <israelswarrior@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

>gonzalocalvo2@...

>CC: SSRI medications , prozactruth ,

>PROZACAWARENESS

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 00:38:36 -0700

>

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I am in association with hundreds of people across the United States and Europe who believe that there are no "safe" antidepressant pharmaceutical preparations on the market today. I personally believe that the dangers of the antidepressant drugs far outweigh the benefits to most people.

What were you prescribed Paxil (paroxetina) for? Anxiety? Depression? Were all other physical maladies ruled out first? Depression can be the result of a number of underlying physical ailments.. thyroid problems & low blood sugar are only two of the many possibilities that come to mind.

Please review the information on the following websites:

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

http://www.drugawareness.org

http://www.prozactruth.com

http://www.pssg.org

Also, if you would like to join a support group where you can interact with many others who have used Paxil, and have decided that it is not helping as much as it is causing additional problems, please go to the home page of . http://

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Dear Dawn,

I read your statement about no safe antidepressant. I am sorry that

I made the fuzzy statement to Mr.T.

Suzy

>From: " DAWN RIDER " <israelswarrior@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

>gonzalocalvo2@...

>CC: SSRI medications , prozactruth ,

>PROZACAWARENESS

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 00:38:36 -0700

>

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Dear Mr. Gandia,

I am in association with hundreds of people across the United States and Europe who believe that there are no "safe" antidepressant pharmaceutical preparations on the market today. I personally believe that the dangers of the antidepressant drugs far outweigh the benefits to most people.

What were you prescribed Paxil (paroxetina) for? Anxiety? Depression? Were all other physical maladies ruled out first? Depression can be the result of a number of underlying physical ailments.. thyroid problems & low blood sugar are only two of the many possibilities that come to mind.

Please review the information on the following websites:

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

http://www.drugawareness.org

http://www.prozactruth.com

http://www.pssg.org

Also, if you would like to join a support group where you can interact with many others who have used Paxil, and have decided that it is not helping as much as it is causing additional problems, please go to the home page of . http://

From here you will need to establish a identification name and password. Once you have done this, then type any of the following "key" words into the "search for groups" window:

PROZACAWARENESS

prozactruth

SSRI medications

Once you have been accepted as a new member to one or all of these groups, you can email any of the members who belong to these groups, and receive copies of all the messages that are posted to these groups.

I hope this information is of some help to you. Please let me know if you need any other information. And, thanks for signing the petition!

The Avenging Angel

4104.

Gonzalo Calvo Gandía

I am taking paroxetina. Are there any antidepressives safer (amitriptilina, imipramina...)? Please write me: gonzalocalvo2@...

Machado, 31

46810 Enguera Valencia

SPAIN

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[Guest guest]

The only antibiotics I have had in the past umpteen years was for a UTI

while pregnant. First did the cranberry and aloe vera juice but after 3

days still no change. My hubby was freaking and telling me that it was a

major cause of miscarriages so I succumbed(I only get these while pregnant).

I have had all the symptoms of everyone else " needing " antibiotics but I

refused unless it's a life-threatening emergency and have recovered as well

as the others. The past 6 years I have especially insisted on avoiding them

as I have been nursing and/or pregnant. A lot of people say " It must be

nice to be married to a doctor " but I think it'd be nicer to be married to a

massage therapist,chiropractor, or homeopath! Hours SUCK but he's

finally getting the message NO DRUGS!!! He does what he wants with his care

but for me and our children he knows better than to offer unless he thinks

it's an emergency(and now he's suggesting mother's milk instead...whee

haa!!) So you probably don't need them either Think of the money

you'll save

Laurie>Oh

Rarely does ANYONE need antibitics other than in life/death situation.

It used to be said that a strep throat goes away in 7 days with antibiotics

and takes a week without them (or was that ear infections - can't remember)

Same thing!

Kick the antibiotic habit. You are only weakening your immune system. Get

thee to the homeopath

[Guest guest]

thanks you for the ecard too rebecca, shawna

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I can totally agree w/you on most everything you said, except the door

thing, I don't wear hats. And to let you know I do laugh at myself atleast

once a day. It would be unhealthy not to. You gave really good advice, and

lp's should just face who they are " amazing " .

>From: Matt Myers <tootalll12@...>

>dwarfism

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:59:42 -0800 (PST)

>

>To Whom it May Concern,

>

>I read some of these messages through this group. I

>sit back and wonder many things about us as a group.

>First, I wonder if all we do is grip and complain

>about things for the most part we can't do a great

>deal about. Secondly, I wonder if all we can do is say

>hey look at me I am different than u.

>

>Maybe its just me but I think its time we get back to

>the basics of life. A tall man doesn't complain

>because he didn't out come average size. Why can't we

>laugh at ourselves and some of our daily struggles. I

>have my days too. But as long as I know that my joy

>will come. One of my favorite lines is as follows.

>Sadness my last for the night but my joy will come in

>the morning.

>

>Two of my favorite things to laugh about is 1. Those

>electronic doors like at Wal-Mart, I don't always trip

>the sensor, so u wear a hat and toss it in the air and

>you catch it and walk right in like no big deal. 2. Is

>those handicapped toilets in public restrooms, I

>realize that they serve a great purpose in our

>society. But I get just the biggest kick out of people

>who can't see my feet and they try to walk into the

>stall, They act dumbpuzzeled that someone is actually

>in there. Just because I had to pole vault on there

>and hope I landed on it, doesn't mean I'm not in

>there. So please try to laugh at yourself at least

>once or twice a day, it may make things not as bad as

>they seem.

>

>Matt

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Your welcome a

--- mashawnag <mashawnag@...> wrote:

> thanks you for the ecard too rebecca, shawna

>

> =====

> shawna

>

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At 01:38 PM 12/30/2001 -0600, you wrote:

>Well, I will definitely have to take the homeopathy class now--I tried the

>teething tablets before for my 1 yr old and don't really know if they

>helped, but he has had a stuffy nose that I just can't get rid of so I was

>reading a alternative therapies book for children that included homepathy

>and his symptoms matched up with Pusatilla (sp) so I went and got some and

>gave it to him 3 times and he's almost clear--Wow!

>

>I gotta learn more:)

>

>Malissa (Wi)

>

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In a message dated 1/1/02 12:15:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Strider3@... writes:

> > 1. At least 5 people in this world love you so much

> > they would die for

> > you.

>

Hey, easy for me!! Just IMAGINE my kids doing their own laundry or NOT

having popovers for New Year's dinner!!!!! Definitely worth dying

over....LOLOLOL

Thanks , this was quite nice!!

Donna

[Guest guest]

your welcome, you had popovers- those are good. haha

yeah it would be nice if everyone did their own

laundry.

>

>

> > > 1. At least 5 people in this world love you so

> much

> > > they would die for

> > > you.

> >

>

> Hey, easy for me!! Just IMAGINE my kids doing

> their own laundry or NOT

> having popovers for New Year's dinner!!!!!

> Definitely worth dying

> over....LOLOLOL

> Thanks , this was quite nice!!

> Donna

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Terry. I have completed the treatment and am

currently in remission. There are many side effects of

the combo, fortunately I don't think anybody gets them

all! I had a tough couple of weeks when I started, but

it mellowed out. Through the remainder of treatment I

was mainly fatigued most of the time, but the

" flu-like " symptoms came and went. I have been able to

continue working full time all along (after having

taken a medical leave for the first couple of weeks).

The severity of the side effects seems to vary widely

from person to person. Most of us can tolerate it

though, some have to discontinue. -dz-

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> At little about myself. I am 48 years old been

> marred

> to my wife Susy for 24 years old. We have 2 children

> almost 25 & 23. 2 grandkids Abbey 9 &

> Pete 3.

> I just found out I had hepatitis C last year. The

> only way I could have contracted this was though a

> blood transfusion in 1985.

> My lab work showed only a light amount of

> hepatitis

> in the liver. But heavy scaring in the liver. I will

> be starting a combo treatment on the 15th. The more

> I

> have been reading on line about " the side affects "

> what others have dealt with. I get a little

> concerned.

> Can anyone that has been or is now going through

> this

> give me some positive feedback.

> Terry

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry

First off welcome to our group. You'll find lots of information and support

here.

As for the treatment. Some of us tolerate the side effects without too much

trouble, while some can't tolerate them at all. You can expect to have some

fever, chills, and have some aches in the beginning. These usually subside

with time to at least a tolerable level with time.If you think you might be

prone to depression I would suggest starting on an antidepressant before

starting treatment. This is something you might talk with your DR. about.

The best advice that I can give is to keep up a positive attitude.

Let me introduce myself. I'm the moderator of the group. I contracted

hepc in the early 70's and have been through 2 rounds of treatment so far.

Well I better go for now. My work day is going to begin a little earlier

than usual today.

[ ] (unknown)

> At little about myself. I am 48 years old been marred

> to my wife Susy for 24 years old. We have 2 children

> almost 25 & 23. 2 grandkids Abbey 9 &

> Pete 3.

> I just found out I had hepatitis C last year. The

> only way I could have contracted this was though a

> blood transfusion in 1985.

> My lab work showed only a light amount of hepatitis

> in the liver. But heavy scaring in the liver. I will

> be starting a combo treatment on the 15th. The more I

> have been reading on line about " the side affects "

> what others have dealt with. I get a little concerned.

> Can anyone that has been or is now going through this

> give me some positive feedback.

> Terry

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Good advice. The problem with antidepressents is that

they take 2-4 weeks to begin to start working, so

better to start sooner than later. I mentioned

it(going on this treatment) to my shrink and he put me

on them right away. I have heard many people who

waited until they were suffering from depression,

wishing they had started sooner. -dz-

--- <ralexan@...> wrote:

> Hi Terry

>

> First off welcome to our group. You'll find lots of

> information and support

> here.

>

> As for the treatment. Some of us tolerate the side

> effects without too much

> trouble, while some can't tolerate them at all. You

> can expect to have some

> fever, chills, and have some aches in the beginning.

> These usually subside

> with time to at least a tolerable level with time.If

> you think you might be

> prone to depression I would suggest starting on an

> antidepressant before

> starting treatment. This is something you might talk

> with your DR. about.

> The best advice that I can give is to keep up a

> positive attitude.

>

> Let me introduce myself. I'm the moderator of

> the group. I contracted

> hepc in the early 70's and have been through 2

> rounds of treatment so far.

>

> Well I better go for now. My work day is going to

> begin a little earlier

> than usual today.

>

>

>

> [ ] (unknown)

>

>

> > At little about myself. I am 48 years old been

> marred

> > to my wife Susy for 24 years old. We have 2

> children

> > almost 25 & 23. 2 grandkids Abbey 9

> &

> > Pete 3.

> > I just found out I had hepatitis C last year.

> The

> > only way I could have contracted this was though a

> > blood transfusion in 1985.

> > My lab work showed only a light amount of

> hepatitis

> > in the liver. But heavy scaring in the liver. I

> will

> > be starting a combo treatment on the 15th. The

> more I

> > have been reading on line about " the side affects "

> > what others have dealt with. I get a little

> concerned.

> > Can anyone that has been or is now going through

> this

> > give me some positive feedback.

> > Terry

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry nice to hear from ya..We don't get snow here either in good old cajun country..We do get alot of mosquitoes and rain though..So you are a paw pawpaw of 3?? I am a granny of 3!!! Stay in touch...

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

I'm Diane..... Sending you a big warm welcome to our family...... I am

sure you will do just fine with your treatment..... I am one of the

older ones here....(53) shhhhhhhhhhhhh........ I live in N.J. 30 miles

west of Atlantic City....

Dennis. I think you have me beat... Am I right or wrong??? Doesn't

matter..... We all stand beside each other no matter what!!!!!! And we

are all here for you and all of the new additions to our group.... Don't

ever feel alone.... .

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

[Guest guest]

I want some snow!!! But just a little of it..Remember my cold knees!!1

[Guest guest]

LOL

[Guest guest]

I would miss my snow, too. I liked the climate in

Denver a little more than here. We got plenty of snow,

but warm days in between. Here we just go into a deep

freeze, the snow that falls in January will still be

on the ground in March. -dz-

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> Colleen

> This is Terry, hope you get your snow. That and

> rain

> is some of the things I miss in southern AZ. We only

> get 7 inches of rain a year. If I want to see snow

> it's a 125 mile drive.

> I will be starting my treatments on the 15th.

> Shots

> & pills. I am hoping that I do as well as you have.

> Terry

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

The way I look at it by now, I'm 48, 53 is not that

different. The only thing I'm counting agewise anymore

is how long I have until retirement... -dz-

--- diane214@... wrote:

> Hi Terry,

> I'm Diane..... Sending you a big warm welcome to

> our family...... I am

> sure you will do just fine with your treatment.....

> I am one of the

> older ones here....(53) shhhhhhhhhhhhh........ I

> live in N.J. 30 miles

> west of Atlantic City....

>

> Dennis. I think you have me beat... Am I right or

> wrong??? Doesn't

> matter..... We all stand beside each other no matter

> what!!!!!! And we

> are all here for you and all of the new additions to

> our group.... Don't

> ever feel alone.... .

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That's a good one -dz-..... Most people in our age group are thinking

about that..... The Government raised the retirement age........ That

is really a let down..... You can go out early but there is a big

difference in what you can collect.....

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

[Guest guest]

I feel that if all the good people with all the ideas, expertise, learning

and motivation leave then there will never be any change in the status quo.

I am aiming to stay and to be as active as possible both in my centre and

possibly at region as well. I will remain chair of the Interest Group for

Parenting and Family Support as long as the group want me there and I will

encourage everyone to become active in their centres. It is difficult at

present but I do think the best way to encourage change is to use the

structures effectively by becoming pro-active within the organisation.

Anyone else any suggestions?

Best wishes,

(unknown)

> Faced with my extortionate bill for subscribing to the CPHVA I'm

> wondering if others feel like me: if we are feeling so let down by

> them should we be voting with our chequebook and not subscribing? Am

> I missing some other vital component they bring? what are others'

> thoughts?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Malinda,

We started DMSA with our son Hunter when he was 3 1/2 and he weighed about 32

pounds. We used 25 mg. every 4 hours for 3 days on and 4 off with awesome

results. When we added ALA that was another story.

Jo

Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina

www.unlockingautism.org

[Guest guest]

SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH......Dave's at work....

[Guest guest]

I know, I can retire at 66. They are stepping it up

gradually. I think my wife can retire at 66 and 2

months. I guess it was inevitable, people are living

longer. I guess you can also opt to work until you're

70 and then get a much larger check. I don't foresee

me spending too much time contemplating that option.

-dz-

--- diane214@... wrote:

> That's a good one -dz-..... Most people in our age

> group are thinking

> about that..... The Government raised the retirement

> age........ That

> is really a let down..... You can go out early but

> there is a big

> difference in what you can collect.....

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

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