Re: (unknown)

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i got your card too nancy , my hubby goes who do we

know from califoria,lol it took me a few moments to

remember the group and the cards,lol. My plans are to

send ours out this weekend. shawna.

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Bethanne,

Working in the medical field I can tell you. Dr's are not God. You must be

assertive. You have got to take control of your medical care and what

direction it is going in. Never, Never, Never be affraid to question. Any

Dr. that gets upset if you question would worry me. If he is confident in

his diagnosis he will understand that with a diagnosis of AIH you have every

right to question. Your life depends on the correct diagnosis and mangement

of you medications. If your Dr. gets upset move on. I have fired a long

term family MD who has been a friend and family MD for years because he

failed after 3 phone calls to report on an abnormal CT scan I had. Still

haven't heard from him. Called myself and had hospital fax report to my

office (I work for a physician and I had the results in 5 mins.) New family

MD is working well with GI doc and Hepatologist. Never be affraid to

question. I't's you life and your right.

Hang in there and always question.

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In a message dated 12/16/01 12:43:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, MKANTZLE@... writes:

.. I have fired a long

term family MD who has been a friend and family MD for years because he

failed after 3 phone calls to report on an abnormal CT scan I had. Still

haven't heard from him. Called myself and had hospital fax report to my

office (I work for a physician and I had the results in 5 mins.) New family

MD is working well with GI doc and Hepatologist. Never be affraid to

question. I't's you life and your right.

GOOD FOR YOU MONICA!!!! SORRY YOU LOST A FRIEND THOUGH.....

BUT HEY, IF YOUR FRIENDS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR HEALTH, THEN THEIR NOT YOUR REAL FRIENDS RIGHT? AND HE/ SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR HEALTH TO BOOT!!

GLAD YOU HAVE SOMEONE ELSE!!

TAKE CARE....

**HAPPY**HOLIDAYS**

**AND WARM HUGS**

Bert.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the input and the support. It is greatly appreciated. I am definitely switching docs, it is just that I couldn't get in until January 3rd. Thanks again!!

Bethanne

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<Any Dr. that gets upset if you question would worry me. If your Dr. gets upset move on. >

Oh yes! I totally agree with this statement! Once, I questioned a doctor when I told him that another doctor would like to talk to him about his dx. I continued that I had some questions about what he meant by the dx of Drug Induced Lupus that he had given me....He was so infuriated that he got up and walked out of the office.

My husband was with me and he was totally infuriated with this doctor and agree that I was NEVER to see him again! I never went back, but did write a letter to him pointing out his improper dx and also some impoper history that he had taken from me. He said I had one disease when I had told him it was another...very similar in name, but VAST difference where they are found! So...instead of saying that he didn't know what the disease was, he wrote the other disease down...hey...they are NOT gods!!! But many think they are!

debby

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Hi Janet,

Well your beans should be sprouting by now. It

probably was not necessary to soak them for 2 days.

Let us know how they turned out. Marilyn

--- Janet Agulnik <janet_agulnik@...> wrote:

> Hi there

> I just am trying to sprout some kidney beans in a

> glass jar with a screen

> lid. I soaked the beans for 2 days, rinsing several

> times, and today I

> drained out the wqter, layed the jar on it's side,

> and put the jar in my

> kitchen cupboard. Am I doing it right? Anyone?

> Thanks, Janet

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey, Janet, I've always soaked my beans and seeds overnight, then drained

thoroughly followed by 2-3 rinses daily and had considerable success.

(unknown)

> Hi there

> I just am trying to sprout some kidney beans in a glass jar with a screen

> lid. I soaked the beans for 2 days, rinsing several times, and today I

> drained out the wqter, layed the jar on it's side, and put the jar in my

> kitchen cupboard. Am I doing it right? Anyone?

> Thanks, Janet

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks for replying. My beans are starting to sprout now, and it's the

first time I've ever done it. Hope they're edible!

Janet

>From: " " <angelmoon@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: (unknown)

>Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:30:57 -0800

>

>Hey, Janet, I've always soaked my beans and seeds overnight, then drained

>thoroughly followed by 2-3 rinses daily and had considerable success.

>

> (unknown)

>

>

> > Hi there

> > I just am trying to sprout some kidney beans in a glass jar with a

>screen

> > lid. I soaked the beans for 2 days, rinsing several times, and today I

> > drained out the wqter, layed the jar on it's side, and put the jar in my

> > kitchen cupboard. Am I doing it right? Anyone?

> > Thanks, Janet

> >

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

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> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

I noticed some of the beans starting to sprout, so I hope they all

will,since it's the first try for me. Like anything else, the first time is

always the hardest. Thanks for your reply. It's nice to know there are

people who care.

Janet

>From: Marilyn Jarzembski <marilynjarz@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: (unknown)

>Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:10:26 -0800 (PST)

>

>Hi Janet,

>Well your beans should be sprouting by now. It

>probably was not necessary to soak them for 2 days.

>Let us know how they turned out. Marilyn

>

>--- Janet Agulnik <janet_agulnik@...> wrote:

> > Hi there

> > I just am trying to sprout some kidney beans in a

> > glass jar with a screen

> > lid. I soaked the beans for 2 days, rinsing several

> > times, and today I

> > drained out the wqter, layed the jar on it's side,

> > and put the jar in my

> > kitchen cupboard. Am I doing it right? Anyone?

> > Thanks, Janet

> >

> >

> >

> >

>_________________________________________________________________

> > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print

> > your photos:

> > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

> >

> >

>

>

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>and 90% how you take it.

>- Irving Berlin

>

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[Guest guest]

That is awful Debby. I'm glad you were on top of things enough to know it was wrong!!

Bethanne

[Guest guest]

Debby,

Next doctor to walk out or get angry because you want information tell him you are going to research on the net if you won't tell me they hate that. But my doctors play better since I have done tons of research and call them on things.

gayle/trans 6-99

galye@... q~q

^

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Hi Suzy,

I have it on and off - mostly off now days, but it

was bad for a while. Check kidney function too. But it

could be nothing major too. I have found that if I

slack off on eating enough protein my swelling is

worse. Also, sitting for too long in front of this

computer!!! (The edge of chair impairs circulation.)

Alternately, standing for too many hours. I guess you

have to balance between walking (or worse, just

standing) and sitting. If there is nothing wrong with

heart or kidneys, look to your diet and anything that

may be affecting circulation in your legs. Good luck,

I know how uncomfortable it can be! I do have some

diuretics I can take if I really need them.

Claudine

--- Suzy Balone <suzybalone@...> wrote:

> Hello,

> Was wondering if anyone has had much problem with

> pedal edema? as in

> swellling of the lower legs?

> My legs look like balloons, had little blood vessals

> break

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thanks Claudine,

i do think I ate enough protein, but who knows, will get the tests back

tomorrow hopefully, he did check kidneys too, glad to hear someone else has

gotten it, I did some walking on vacation but I did not work out and so was

out of my routine, maybe I sat around more than I thought. It is already

going down some thank goodness, was getting rather uncomfortable. The funny

thing is, he wrote a prescription for a diuretic and I really don't think

I'm peeing that much more , did cut down on my water also though today,

will keep in touch

Thank you again

Suzy

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Gayle...that is awesome! Glad it worked for you! debby

Re: [ ] (unknown)

Debby,Next doctor to walk out or get angry because you want information tell him you are going to research on the net if you won't tell me they hate that. But my doctors play better since I have done tons of research and call them on things.gayle/trans 6-99galye@... q~q ^

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I second 's wish for everyone for a happy and pain-free Christmas--

Deb Swaney (Meg's Mom 12 yr.old pauci)

[Guest guest]

Hello Ada..The liver supposedly feels no pain but when it is inflammed it

does hurt the surronding areas..I learned that through this group..I am going

through the same thing except now i'm not nauseated..I also feel very

tired..It comes and goes..Sometimes it feels like it stays more than it goes

though..I am no longer on treatment and still feel exhausted often..Joint

aches also.Just keep in touch with us and I hope this information helped

you..I'm sure tomorrow you will hear more from the rest of us..Hope your

holidays are blessed.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ada,

They say the liver isn't supposed to hurt but I have pain 24/7 under

my right ribs and around my back..... Feels like a toothache and burns

and throbs.... Sometimes feels like a stabbing pain. We all have the

same complaint.... Seems to me that there is something tied in there

somewhere.... The tiredness is also a symptom of Hep C..... You don't

have to be on treatment to feel the symptoms.... Forgetfulness is also

associated with the Hep.... Hey....... Think I could forget about

Christmas presents and blame it on the Hep C? Wouldn't work would it?

LOL.... Hope we helped you out some...... Jan? Is everything big in

Texas as the saying goes????? LOL

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

[Guest guest]

Diane I haven't found anything big in Texas that would put a SMILE on my face

yet..I'll keep looking and let ya know!!! LOL

[Guest guest]

Ada see I told you everyone would be answering you..I hope you have found

some comfort in our opinions and advice...We all wish you jappy

holidays..Please stay in touch and let us know how you are feeling and

remember we are here for comfort also!!

[Guest guest]

Abdominal pain is one of the first symptoms I

experienced before starting treatment and is a common

complaint. They say that the liver does not feel pain,

but I believe that it causes pain in the surrounding

tissue. The symptoms of hepatitis are very similar to

those experienced from the treatment. -dz-

--- adapena1 <adapena1@...> wrote:

> Hello every one

> Happy holidays to all.

> Can any one tell me if the the liver hurts?

> Because, for the last

> month or so, I've been waking up in the middle of

> the night with

> stomach pains & nausea. I also feel very fatigue,

> like a truck hit

> me. Am not on the Inteferon yet so I can't blame

> the medication.

> Ada

>

>

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[Guest guest]

It's one of those things that doctors say patients

don't experience, but patients say they do experience

it. I complained of many things along the way that my

dr said were not associated with the hcv. My opinion

is that the dr's don't understand why it happens so

they say that it doesn't happen. -dz-

--- diane214@... wrote:

> Hi Ada,

> They say the liver isn't supposed to hurt but I

> have pain 24/7 under

> my right ribs and around my back..... Feels like a

> toothache and burns

> and throbs.... Sometimes feels like a stabbing pain.

> We all have the

> same complaint.... Seems to me that there is

> something tied in there

> somewhere.... The tiredness is also a symptom of Hep

> C..... You don't

> have to be on treatment to feel the symptoms....

> Forgetfulness is also

> associated with the Hep.... Hey....... Think I could

> forget about

> Christmas presents and blame it on the Hep C?

> Wouldn't work would it?

> LOL.... Hope we helped you out some...... Jan? Is

> everything big in

> Texas as the saying goes????? LOL

>

> Angel Hugs,

> Diane

>

> May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope,

> Peace & Unity

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 12/21/01 2:31:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

michalesj@... writes:

> I am new to these boards and am not sure how to post. I hope this works.

looked good to me!! Is this Judy? Welcome to the list!!

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Jan,

Isn't Texas where Floyd was from? Now you know the answer.....

LOL....

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

[Guest guest]

Hello Ada

The liver itself does not feel pain. An inflamed liver can push on other

things that do feel pain. Nausea and fatigue are symptoms of an unhealthy

liver.

Merry Christmas

[ ] (unknown)

> Hello every one

> Happy holidays to all.

> Can any one tell me if the the liver hurts? Because, for the last

> month or so, I've been waking up in the middle of the night with

> stomach pains & nausea. I also feel very fatigue, like a truck hit

> me. Am not on the Inteferon yet so I can't blame the medication.

> Ada

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It must be part of the larger psychosis that's making

us all imagine these things.. -dz-

--- <ralexan@...> wrote:

> Hi DZ

>

> If they can't explain it. It doesn't happen.

>

> Merry Christmas to you.

>

>

> Re: [ ] (unknown)

>

>

> > It's one of those things that doctors say patients

> > don't experience, but patients say they do

> experience

> > it. I complained of many things along the way that

> my

> > dr said were not associated with the hcv. My

> opinion

> > is that the dr's don't understand why it happens

> so

> > they say that it doesn't happen. -dz-

> >

> > --- diane214@... wrote:

> > > Hi Ada,

> > > They say the liver isn't supposed to hurt but

> I

> > > have pain 24/7 under

> > > my right ribs and around my back..... Feels like

> a

> > > toothache and burns

> > > and throbs.... Sometimes feels like a stabbing

> pain.

> > > We all have the

> > > same complaint.... Seems to me that there is

> > > something tied in there

> > > somewhere.... The tiredness is also a symptom of

> Hep

> > > C..... You don't

> > > have to be on treatment to feel the symptoms....

> > > Forgetfulness is also

> > > associated with the Hep.... Hey....... Think I

> could

> > > forget about

> > > Christmas presents and blame it on the Hep C?

> > > Wouldn't work would it?

> > > LOL.... Hope we helped you out some...... Jan?

> Is

> > > everything big in

> > > Texas as the saying goes????? LOL

> > >

> > > Angel Hugs,

> > > Diane

> > >

> > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love,

> Hope,

> > > Peace & Unity

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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