Re: (unknown)

November 29, 2001

Hey Kim,

How you doing.

Are you at home or at work just now??

Nick

Re: (unknown)

Hi Nick we're neighbours I live in Montrose too. Give us a shout back

Kim Dellanzo-McHardy

(unknown)

> > > > >

> > > > > Morning,

> > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > I

> > > > > do.

> > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > medic.

> > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > and

> > > > > am

> > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > >

> > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > are

> > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > >

> > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > >

November 29, 2001

Yup Dodgy,

We had a similar thing here a while ago, One of the service companies supply

boats somehow crashed in to a Jacket at full speed... Apparently they did

not see it

Brash \ Gavin Lines

Senior Nurse Supervisor

Cabinda Gulf Oil Company

e-mail: Amed2@...

Telephone: CTN 8 345 2696

Via London 020 74878100 Cabinda Ext. 2696

> (unknown)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Morning,

> > > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > > I

> > > > > > do.

> > > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > > medic.

> > > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > > are

> > > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > > >

> > > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > > >

November 29, 2001

Happening a little bit too often with us though I'm afraid , we got alot

of UN sanction busting rogue traders out here who don't recognise bloody

great big bits of metal sticking out of the sea, they'd rather use us as

cover to get past the navy and slip into Iraq and the like.

Then when it all goes belly up on them abandon ship and sod off to leave

others to clear up the mess.

Way of the world i guess.......

nick

(unknown)

> > > > >

> > > > > Morning,

> > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > I

> > > > > do.

> > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > medic.

> > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > and

> > > > > am

> > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > >

> > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > are

> > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > >

> > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > >

November 29, 2001

Sounds messy.. What's your rotation out there ???

Brash \ Gavin Lines

Senior Nurse Supervisor

Cabinda Gulf Oil Company

e-mail: Amed2@...

Telephone: CTN 8 345 2696

Via London 020 74878100 Cabinda Ext. 2696

> (unknown)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Morning,

> > > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > > I

> > > > > > do.

> > > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > > medic.

> > > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > > are

> > > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > > >

> > > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > > >

November 29, 2001

28/28 Which is ok, just seems my rotation is always a little more lively

than my back to backs!!

Hand of God or What!!

Anyone else find that?

Nick

(unknown)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Morning,

> > > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > > I

> > > > > > do.

> > > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > > medic.

> > > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > > are

> > > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > > >

> > > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > > >

November 29, 2001

Certainly do, Get in Alternate says No probs everything quiet and then the

Sh*t hits the fan..... 28\28 here to, Suits me fine not sure if I would like

14\14 , used to do 35\35 as my alternates from New Zealand and 2 days to get

to Angola and Back means he was only home 3 ... Now he prefers 28 \ 28 Guess

the three at home is enough.

Brash \ Gavin Lines

Senior Nurse Supervisor

Cabinda Gulf Oil Company

e-mail: Amed2@...

Telephone: CTN 8 345 2696

Via London 020 74878100 Cabinda Ext. 2696

> (unknown)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Morning,

> > > > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > do.

> > > > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > > > medic.

> > > > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > > > >

November 30, 2001

I know when I was working on the shell papa, we always ran out of A4

paper on our shift, that seemed to be the biggest problem.

on the medical front, I dealt with very few real emergencies in 6 years in

the north sea, but I think it evened out over both shifts.

Benbow

HMD Paramedic

Day 01932 756150 Clinic

Night 01932 756134 Out of Hours

Radio 01932 756151 Call sign X-RAY

(unknown)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Morning,

> > > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > > I

> > > > > > do.

> > > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > > medic.

> > > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > > are

> > > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > > >

> > > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > > >

November 30, 2001

Hi ,

Hmm wrong side of the water from me mate ..... <chuckle>

I'm back out to work about the time you are due off, but will be back on Mid

Jan, I'll give you a shout then.

atb

Ian

PS Home email address????

(unknown)

> > > > >

> > > > > Morning,

> > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > I

> > > > > do.

> > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > medic.

> > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > and

> > > > > am

> > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > >

> > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > are

> > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > >

> > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > >

November 30, 2001

Home e mail... Brashy@...

Brash \ Gavin Lines

Senior Nurse Supervisor

Cabinda Gulf Oil Company

e-mail: Amed2@...

Telephone: CTN 8 345 2696

Via London 020 74878100 Cabinda Ext. 2696

> (unknown)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Morning,

> > > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > > I

> > > > > > do.

> > > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > > medic.

> > > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > > are

> > > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > > >

> > > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > > >

December 1, 2001

Nick at home but due offshore for the 17th and you?

kimdellanzo@...

(unknown)

> > > > >

> > > > > Morning,

> > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > I

> > > > > do.

> > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > medic.

> > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > and

> > > > > am

> > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > >

> > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > are

> > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > >

> > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > >

December 1, 2001

Kim,offshore dodging bullets and boats right now but due home around the

11th/12th ish.home for Crimbo then back out about the 10th Jan.

Nick

Re: (unknown)

Nick at home but due offshore for the 17th and you?

kimdellanzo@...

(unknown)

> > > > >

> > > > > Morning,

> > > > > As requested, here is a brief on who I am and what

> > > > I

> > > > > do.

> > > > > I currently work in the Forties field, as a BP

> > > > > medic.

> > > > > I have worked for various agencies in the past,

> > > > and

> > > > > am

> > > > > now a company employed Medic.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am doing my Medics refresher next week, in Great

> > > > > Yarmouth, so may see some of you there.

> > > > >

> > > > > I live in France, and work 2/2 at the moment. We

> > > > are

> > > > > going to do 2/2, 2/3 next year.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thats about it really.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dave Barber

> > > > >

> > > > > __________________________________________________

> > > > >

December 2, 2001

Brash get some work done, you wittering old git!!!!

Jim Finch

--- " Brash, \\ Lines, Gavin (amed2) "

<amed2@...> wrote:

<HR>

<tt>

Home e mail... & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

Brashy@...

Brash \ Gavin Lines

Senior Nurse Supervisor

Cabinda Gulf Oil Company

e-mail: Amed2@...

Telephone: CTN 8 345 2696

Via London 020 74878100 Cabinda Ext. 2696

& gt;

(unknown)

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Morning,

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; As requested, here is a

brief on who I am and what

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; do.

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I currently work in the

Forties field, as a BP

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; medic.

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I have worked for

various agencies in the past,

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; and

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; am

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; now a company employed

Medic.

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I am doing my Medics

refresher next week, in Great

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Yarmouth, so may see

some of you there.

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I live in France, and

work 2/2 at the moment. We

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; are

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; going to do 2/2, 2/3

next year.

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Thats about it

really.

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dave Barber

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

__________________________________________________

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

December 2, 2001

Hi,

One comment. Before my myotomy, I too tried nitroglycerin. I can't say

whether it helped or not. I didn't take it very long. I had to stop

taking it because it gave me instant, pounding headaches. Has this

happened to anyone else?

Pam

Wickman wrote:

>

> Hi Katy. Welcome to the group! Were glad to be able

> to give you some comfort in being that you are not

> alone. I'm now 26. I've had achalasia for about 4

> years or so. As far as spasms go, I thought at first

> I was having heartburn and was treated for GERD, bed

> up on blocks, no caffeine, etc. but to no avail. I

> was on Prilosec and that did nothing for me either.

> Finally, three doctors later, the gastro doctor

> immediately diagnosed achalasia and began the testing.

> It was then that my spasms started getting worse,

> lasting longer, more painful, and I realized that it

> wasn't heartburn. No matter how much bread, water,

> milk, malox, etc. that I consumed trying to get rid of

> the awful pain, nothing worked. After being in this

> group for a while, I decided to mention to my doctor

> that nitroglycerin was working for some people, and

> she agreed to try it for me. It did work for a while,

> but has since stopped working. Now I'm taking 5mg of

> Valium when a spasm comes on. The little tablet

> disolves quickly and releases the spasm. This

> medication is the best thing that has worked for me.

> I've also taken Vicodin for the spasms, which doesn't

> really release the spasm, but just covers up the

> problem... You do have options Katy. You need to

> discuss these options with your doctor. Go through

> the past postings and you will find a wealth of

> information about peoples various techniques in

> dealing with spasms. I am by no means a doctor or

> have any medical training (have to put that little

> disclaimer in there :-) but I would certainly say you

> are having spasms and not heartburn. You sound just

> like me! I know I speak for pretty much all of us

> when I say we are here for you. If you have any more

> questions, please don't hesitate to ask. You can post

> to the board of email me directly! Take care of

> yourself Katy.

>

> --- kkoerber@... wrote:

> > Hi everybody. I'm 22 and have been diagnosed with

> > achalasia for about a

> > year and a half. My symptoms started with what I

> > thought was heartburn

> > and quickly progressed to the point where I was on a

> > totally liquid diet

> > and was losing a lot of wieght. I had a myotomy in

> > june and though it

> > helped somewhat, my symptoms are getting worse

> > again. my main problem

> > now is that i wake up in the night with intense

> > chest pain. Sometimes

> > the pain is excruciating; sometimes milder.

> > Sometimes it can last for

> > six or eight hours; sometimes it goes away after a

> > glass of warm water

> > (or six or seven), a little food, or some time with

> > a heating pad on my

> > chest. Sometimes the pain is mild but i can tell

> > that if i lie down it

> > will get worse and keep me from sleeping. Antacids

> > do nothing, putting

> > my bed on blocks has done nothing....i'm out of

> > ideas. my doc says the

> > heartburn is caused by food fermenting in my

> > esophagus and becoming

> > acidic (not from reflux). i'm wondering if i'm

> > having spasms -- how do i

> > tell the difference? I can't handle this sleep

> > deprivation -- i'm barely

> > able to function in class and at work. any advice

> > would be a great help.

> >

> > thanks much

> > katy

> >

> ________________________________________________________________

> > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!

> > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for

> > less!

> > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:

> > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

December 3, 2001

Yes, Pam, nitro glycerin gave me violent headaches

too. I was first given nitro when they were checking

my heart. They wanted to rule out the possibility that

the spasms were heart attacks. They did the pain

no good but my head pounded for hours.

After my dilation the grasto guy gave me a prescription

for nitro. I told him about the headaches and he said

the headaches should not last but a few minutes. Mine

did, they lasted for hours and I never had that prescription

filled. I still have it and may have to resort to trying

it again someday, but right now my spasms are of short

duration so I am holding off.

Maggwho

December 3, 2001

Hi Pam,

Ohhh yes, they gave me " big time " headaches and did absolutely nothing for the

spasms. The esophagus is such a strong muscle, and I think a lot of G.I.

Doctors can't understand that, so they treat it like it's another muscle.

--

>>> kpdthresher@... 12/02/01 03:16PM >>>

Hi,

One comment. Before my myotomy, I too tried nitroglycerin. I can't say

whether it helped or not. I didn't take it very long. I had to stop

taking it because it gave me instant, pounding headaches. Has this

happened to anyone else?

Pam

Wickman wrote:

>

> Hi Katy. Welcome to the group! Were glad to be able

> to give you some comfort in being that you are not

> alone. I'm now 26. I've had achalasia for about 4

> years or so. As far as spasms go, I thought at first

> I was having heartburn and was treated for GERD, bed

> up on blocks, no caffeine, etc. but to no avail. I

> was on Prilosec and that did nothing for me either.

> Finally, three doctors later, the gastro doctor

> immediately diagnosed achalasia and began the testing.

> It was then that my spasms started getting worse,

> lasting longer, more painful, and I realized that it

> wasn't heartburn. No matter how much bread, water,

> milk, malox, etc. that I consumed trying to get rid of

> the awful pain, nothing worked. After being in this

> group for a while, I decided to mention to my doctor

> that nitroglycerin was working for some people, and

> she agreed to try it for me. It did work for a while,

> but has since stopped working. Now I'm taking 5mg of

> Valium when a spasm comes on. The little tablet

> disolves quickly and releases the spasm. This

> medication is the best thing that has worked for me.

> I've also taken Vicodin for the spasms, which doesn't

> really release the spasm, but just covers up the

> problem... You do have options Katy. You need to

> discuss these options with your doctor. Go through

> the past postings and you will find a wealth of

> information about peoples various techniques in

> dealing with spasms. I am by no means a doctor or

> have any medical training (have to put that little

> disclaimer in there :-) but I would certainly say you

> are having spasms and not heartburn. You sound just

> like me! I know I speak for pretty much all of us

> when I say we are here for you. If you have any more

> questions, please don't hesitate to ask. You can post

> to the board of email me directly! Take care of

> yourself Katy.

>

> --- kkoerber@... wrote:

> > Hi everybody. I'm 22 and have been diagnosed with

> > achalasia for about a

> > year and a half. My symptoms started with what I

> > thought was heartburn

> > and quickly progressed to the point where I was on a

> > totally liquid diet

> > and was losing a lot of wieght. I had a myotomy in

> > june and though it

> > helped somewhat, my symptoms are getting worse

> > again. my main problem

> > now is that i wake up in the night with intense

> > chest pain. Sometimes

> > the pain is excruciating; sometimes milder.

> > Sometimes it can last for

> > six or eight hours; sometimes it goes away after a

> > glass of warm water

> > (or six or seven), a little food, or some time with

> > a heating pad on my

> > chest. Sometimes the pain is mild but i can tell

> > that if i lie down it

> > will get worse and keep me from sleeping. Antacids

> > do nothing, putting

> > my bed on blocks has done nothing....i'm out of

> > ideas. my doc says the

> > heartburn is caused by food fermenting in my

> > esophagus and becoming

> > acidic (not from reflux). i'm wondering if i'm

> > having spasms -- how do i

> > tell the difference? I can't handle this sleep

> > deprivation -- i'm barely

> > able to function in class and at work. any advice

> > would be a great help.

> >

> > thanks much

> > katy

> >

> ________________________________________________________________

> > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!

> > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for

> > less!

> > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:

> > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

December 3, 2001

I also got the extreme headaches with Nitro but only

for a minute.

--- MaggWho@... wrote:

> Yes, Pam, nitro glycerin gave me violent headaches

> too. I was first given nitro when they were

> checking

> my heart. They wanted to rule out the possibility

> that

> the spasms were heart attacks. They did the pain

> no good but my head pounded for hours.

>

> After my dilation the grasto guy gave me a

> prescription

> for nitro. I told him about the headaches and he

> said

> the headaches should not last but a few minutes.

> Mine

> did, they lasted for hours and I never had that

> prescription

> filled. I still have it and may have to resort to

> trying

> it again someday, but right now my spasms are of

> short

> duration so I am holding off.

>

> Maggwho

>

__________________________________________________

December 5, 2001

Good luck - did well and you will too!

December 5, 2001

In a message dated 12/5/01 11:31:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

HopeInPrayer@... writes:

> Hi folks,

> I'm fairly new. I was recently diagnosed with Ehrlichiosis. I

> subscribed around 2 weeks ago with this list and have been reading

> posts. I'm confused. Is Lyme disease a general term for all tick born

> diseases or strictly for Borrelia Burgdorferi only? Thanks inadvance for

> anyone who clarifies this for me. Debbie in MI

>

Lyme Disease is strictly Borrelia... Lyme Disease, Erlichia and Babesia are

all seperate tick infections and one can have all 3 at one time....

December 5, 2001

i would eat the Kashi cereal plain like a snack with a big glassful of water

to wash it down! Mog

December 6, 2001

Best of luck, Ron. Soon it will all be in the past and you'll be as good

as new by Christmas, if not sooner.

Pam

towerman4 wrote:

>

> Hello room, Having my myotomy tomorrow at 1230 ,cant wait ,have a

> good night room..............Ron

>

December 7, 2001

At 10:35 AM 12/07/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>Ok, a friend says she has heard that for a sinus infection, comparatively:

>if you leave your body to fight it naturally - the infection will take a

>week longer than if you were to take antibiotics.

>Can anybody clarify this for me?

>

>Thanks,

>

Every person is different. You will learn from me that antibiotics just

suppress and drive whatever is wrong deeper. Health is not about getting

rid of bugs - its making yourself healthier so bugs don't want you - you

are nto susceptible. I'll be starting another homeopathy internet class in

January - you may want to take it.

Rarely does ANYONE need antibitics other than in life/death situation.

It used to be said that a strep throat goes away in 7 days with antibiotics

and takes a week without them (or was that ear infections - can't remember)

Same thing!

Kick the antibiotic habit. You are only weakening your immune system. Get

thee to the homeopath

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December 7, 2001

wouldn't it depend on how bad the infection is?

how about treating it herbally?

Kathy

> Ok, a friend says she has heard that for a sinus infection,

comparatively:

> if you leave your body to fight it naturally - the infection will take

a

> week longer than if you were to take antibiotics.

> Can anybody clarify this for me?

>

> Thanks,

>

December 7, 2001

Now, I treat things herbally, but does not....I just don't really

know the answer to her question, because we do take care of things without

antibiotics..

Thanks,

At 10:56 AM 12/7/01 -0500, you wrote:

>wouldn't it depend on how bad the infection is?

>how about treating it herbally?

>Kathy

December 7, 2001

,

I have to say I have found any colds or upset tummys or sore throats etc. take a

little bit longer when taking Vitamin C, zinc, Echinacea and garlic to help the

body than with antibiotics, not a week longer in our case though.

I would much rather the icky thing take a day or so longer than take drugs just

so it will SEEM as though it has gone quicker when it has probably just gone

back into the body and will appear again as something else, maybe even something

nastier.

Antibiotics suppress the immune system - don't take em!!!

And I personally feel so much healthier and stronger since switching to

Vitamins, homeopathy, herbals and EO's to help my body with whatever is going on

at the time!!

Sue

SAHM

dd Ruby 2.5 yrs

Wales, UK

December 8, 2001

Sheri, I was wondering: I had to take a 7-day course of antibiotics two

weeks ago because I'd been caughing for some five weeks, with also some

asthma associated with it. (Diagnostic: asthmatic bronchitis.) None of my

usual " tricks " worked. (Vit. C, Oscillo., etc) Being pregnant (31 weeks),

the OB suggested that my immune system was down, to avoid fighting off the

presence of the baby, and that it was important to kill the bug so I would

be in better shape for the baby.

The antibio did kill whatever I had within days and the asthma disappeared

also. Do you think the same reasonning should have applied then? (I should

have just waited?) Just wondering what your thoughts are.

in Va.

> From: Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...>

> Reply-Vaccinations

> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 15:43:15 +0000

> Vaccinations

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

> Every person is different. You will learn from me that antibiotics just

> suppress and drive whatever is wrong deeper. Health is not about getting

> rid of bugs - its making yourself healthier so bugs don't want you - you

> are nto susceptible.

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