Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Good point. I treat my animals internally to. I elected natural, also because of daily maintenance. I use MSM and food grade diatomaceous daily. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/buy_diatomaceous_earth.html http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/naturvet_msm.html > > > > > > > > > > > So if you leave your home, how do you get the bird mites off of you > > > > > > so you don't infect your new place? Do you have to go with not a > > > > > > thing from your infested home? Has this worked for anyone? My family > > > > > > is ok right now because its cold outside. The constant crawling > > > > > > stopped the first night we had frost. I still feel the pin pricking > > > > > > at times and some itching and crawling from time to time but at > > > > > > least I can sleep now. Although, my poor dog is still shaking his > > > > > > head but not as bad. I'm scared to wait until Spring and have these > > > > > > things attacking me or my family again. My derm. does believe that > > > > > > it WAS bird mites but thinks I just got a virus from the bites and > > > > > > that made me feel the crawling sensation. I don't believe that. I > > > > > > could feel them going in my nose, eyes, and ears. I put vaseline on > > > > > > my face when I had a burning sensation and I could feel them trying > > > > > > to get off my face going into my scalp and down below my face. It > > > > > > was so awful I had to wash the vaseline off. Again, derm thinks that > > > > > > was just a sensation. I think not. When the weather was warm I could > > > > > > not sit on anything upholstered now that it is cooler I can. The dr. > > > > > > says thats what hives from a virus can do and make it worse when you > > > > > > are warm. I have two small children whom are home with me everyday > > > > > > so I don't have time to do all the cleaning nor do I want to use > > > > > > anything toxic with them around. I'm thinking I'd gladly give up > > > > > > everything as long as I had my family and we didn't take these mites > > > > > > with us to a new place. I don't know if my children are being > > > > > > affected like I am. I'm guessing they'd be crying all night but they > > > > > > had the rashes and bites just as I did in the beginning. My husband > > > > > > is the only one who remained ok with just an occasional itch. No > > > > > > one believed me for 3 months when I said I thought it was bird mites > > > > > > including my husband until finally the last Dr. said it sounds like > > > > > > bird mites because of the dead birds but he says the mites die. He > > > > > > told me I just needed some good sleep and to get my immune system > > > > > > better from the so called virus so he gave me something to make me > > > > > > sleep for 4 nights and I go back tomorrow. Yes, I needed the sleep > > > > > > but it didn't change a thing. Any advice would be greatly > > > > > > appreciated. Thanks so much. > > > > > > > > > > > > LJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I have several people that say they beat this using MMS baths and all natural soaps, and fels naptha in wash. > > > > > > Thanks. I'm am so confuse... > > > bird mites > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:28 AM > > > Subject: [bird... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I have a front loader w/d. Regular free & clear detergent and baking soda or arm & hammer non -powdered with baking soda doesn't break the washer. I use the top loaders at the l'mat with powdered arm & hammer many times. On Nov 8, 2011 2:42 PM, " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: I would listen read and research before making any big spends. Try and keep it simple. Honestly you can beat this. Try some of the ideas posted, keep it simple and cheap. I have beat this and the simplest things for control are better than many expensive things. Can you use fels naptha in your washer? > >> > Has anyone talked with Dr.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I swear by fels naptha. Will never use anything but. It is kinda of a hassle to make your own soap, but its worth it:) Plus i work and live in the woods, poison ivy I have not had since changing my soaps:0 > > > > > > Has anyone talked with Dr.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Something else cheap and helps many. Flower of sulfur. I take this and MSM daily. You can also blend the flower of sulfur into the liquid lye and shampoo wash with. Hint mix flower of sulfur with olive oil then blend with blender or mixer and liquid lye. http://www.pennherb.com/sulphur > > > > > > Has anyone talked with Dr. Amin in Arizona at Parasitology Center Inc.? I emailed him. Its a $100 per 1/2 hour to speak to him. I wondered if he knew anything about bird mites. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Thanks for all of the links! On Nov 8, 2011 3:06 PM, " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: Something else cheap and helps many. Flower of sulfur. I take this and MSM daily. You can also blend the flower of sulfur into the liquid lye and shampoo wash with. Hint mix flower of sulfur with olive oil then blend with blender or mixer and liquid lye. http://www.pennherb.com/sulphur--- In bird mites , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: >> I would listen read a...> > >> > So that would be a waste o... > > bird mites > > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 12:41 PM> > Subject: [bird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Anytime. I know how hard this is. Never have hesitation to ask us here:) > > > > > > So that would be a waste o... > > > > bird mites > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 12:41 PM > > > Subject: [bird... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 LJ - my story sounds awfully similar to yours. I can tell you that moving helped in our case. We are not totally better but miles away from where we were when this started. I think our home was so heavily infested I am not sure we could have beat it (and we tried it all - chemical, natural, cleaning protocols, medications, etc). Our mites were confirmed via a sample sent to an university lab but even with the positive ID nobody could help us. These mites have somehow morphed into something bigger and badder than old school text books and science professors understand. I did get Lyme and Bartonella from the buggers and am being treated for both. We did not get rid of everything when we moved as my husband just couldn't bear to throw our belongings out. If I could do it again I would pitch it all - go to a hotel for several days, treat with various meds/protocols while at the hotel and then move into a new place. I want you to know,too, that I understand moving is a huge deal. We lost nearly our life savings but, we saved our lives. I was the worst affected, then my son, daughter and my husband only sporadically. Please don't loose hope. Since you are the only one experiencing issues your environment may still be able to be addressed through the many protocols listed here. I can certainly share with you what worked best for us. Delta dust in the wall voids, sockets, etc. - borax on the carpets and continual washing of bedding. If possible, keep your laundry separate from everyone else for the time being. Get the steam press that suggested. I used to not be able to wear anything without experiencing crawling, biting, etc. I went from being a girlie girl who loved to get dressed up to someone who dreaded getting dressed period. The steam press was a game changer. Also, get tested for Lyme and it's co-infections as soon as you can. It sounds like you may have acquired something in this ordeal. If you have the funds get the Cedarcide fogger and products. It didn't help much in the house but it sure helped in the car (smaller area maybe) - it's quick and easy to use. As also said, keep a journal as to what treatments/protocols you are following. It is so easy to forget what worked/when. Also chart your symptoms. A couple of other things that helped me: Vic's vapor rub on active spots Spraying sheets/bedding with vinegar/wintergreen alcohol before getting into bed (I also used to spray clothing - it stops the itchies) Off Botanicals natural bug repellent lotion (it has a green leaf on the tube) Epsom salt baths Sleeping medication (if you aren't sleeping get something to help asap - you cannot beat this if you are not able to rest) Exfoliating the face with facial wash and the body with salt rubs - they seem to love dead skin or something KleenFree in the laundry (this was like magic for us - I know it doesn't work for everyone so maybe just try one bottle to test it) I can't promise you a total cure but I know you can get better! The acute stage of these mites is so awful it is difficult to even put into words. But, everyone here on this board has been there and you will move through it. Please let us know what we can do to help! > > > > > So if you leave your home, how do you get the bird mites off of you > > > so you don't infect your new place? Do you have to go with not a > > > thing from your infested home? Has this worked for anyone? My family > > > is ok right now because its cold outside. The constant crawling > > > stopped the first night we had frost. I still feel the pin pricking > > > at times and some itching and crawling from time to time but at > > > least I can sleep now. Although, my poor dog is still shaking his > > > head but not as bad. I'm scared to wait until Spring and have these > > > things attacking me or my family again. My derm. does believe that > > > it WAS bird mites but thinks I just got a virus from the bites and > > > that made me feel the crawling sensation. I don't believe that. I > > > could feel them going in my nose, eyes, and ears. I put vaseline on > > > my face when I had a burning sensation and I could feel them trying > > > to get off my face going into my scalp and down below my face. It > > > was so awful I had to wash the vaseline off. Again, derm thinks that > > > was just a sensation. I think not. When the weather was warm I could > > > not sit on anything upholstered now that it is cooler I can. The dr. > > > says thats what hives from a virus can do and make it worse when you > > > are warm. I have two small children whom are home with me everyday > > > so I don't have time to do all the cleaning nor do I want to use > > > anything toxic with them around. I'm thinking I'd gladly give up > > > everything as long as I had my family and we didn't take these mites > > > with us to a new place. I don't know if my children are being > > > affected like I am. I'm guessing they'd be crying all night but they > > > had the rashes and bites just as I did in the beginning. My husband > > > is the only one who remained ok with just an occasional itch. No > > > one believed me for 3 months when I said I thought it was bird mites > > > including my husband until finally the last Dr. said it sounds like > > > bird mites because of the dead birds but he says the mites die. He > > > told me I just needed some good sleep and to get my immune system > > > better from the so called virus so he gave me something to make me > > > sleep for 4 nights and I go back tomorrow. Yes, I needed the sleep > > > but it didn't change a thing. Any advice would be greatly > > > appreciated. Thanks so much. > > > > > > LJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Hi,I am preparing for ORE part 2 and i am living in Tooting. Kamran.From: RENUKA GOUD <goud_renuka@...>Subject: (unknown) Date: Thursday, 10 November, 2011, 11:44 >hi anybody preparing for part 2 in and around epsom surrey.its closeby to tooting, morden, croydon sutton > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 its through direct patient contact .... From: Balsam Majid <balsam_majid@...> " " < >Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:15 AMSubject: (unknown) Dear all I have just joined this group...good luck to you all in your study I have this previous ORE question in April 2011 Which is the best way to give dental health education ? 1- Dentist advising patient on dental chair 2- parents teaching their children 3- through leaflets 4- advertising in TV 5- dental health education in school days Looking forward to your answers with explanation Regards Balsam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 hi ore exam is not seeing you grade you have attained in 4 years of bds , they just need your degree certificate from list of recognised university hope this helps kiran From: Kanza Tariq <kanzatariq1@...> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:03 AM Subject: (unknown) Dear colleagues Does anyone have an idea how important grades are for applying for ORE. do you just need to have a valid dental degree or is it necessary not to have bad grades/ not to have had taken any exam in supplementary sitting? Does anyone have an idea Any help would be much appreciated Best regards Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Amen!!! I find it is " slowly " accepted in schools when I am at IEP meetings explaining that " this goal is unacceptable and let's look at writing another more acceptable, measurable goal! " Bedard, PLA Ricky, andra and 's Mom Mothers on a Mission, Inc. 6515 Stanley Avenue #4 Berwyn, IL 60402 708-217-3196 www.mothersonamission.net www.noewait.net Walk a mile in my shoes, see what I see, hear what I hear, feel what I feel, THEN maybe you'll understand why I do what I do. Until then, don't judge me!!! CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail and are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________ From: Cahill <mdcahill@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 11:32:03 AM Subject: (unknown) Cindi and all, Yet think of all the musicians, singers, athletes or persons we deem successful who have the habit of closing their eyes or averting their eyes in order to concentrate, feel the beat or be in the zone. For them it is ok or considered a mannerism that will be over-looked because they have achieved status already. Looking someone in the eye is highly overrated. Cahill CAHILL & ASSOCIATES 1155 S. Washington Street, #106 Naperville, Illinois 60540 (630) 778-6500 (630) 778-0722 Fax Email: mdcahill@... Website: CahillAssociatesLaw.com The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. Unauthorized use, disclosure, or copying is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately at (630) 778-6500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Mystery no more Nicky. Wonderful Del is re-organising our files section for us, an ENORMOUS job, and so that these do not get into the horrendous mess they were in previously, we decided that members should not upload documents into the Files section anymore. Any information they wanted listed in the files, they must send to Del (I will be making an announcement about this shortly) so she can upload the document for them, to ensure that it goes into the correct FOLDER. To help with this, I changed the setting that previously allowed members to upload files, but I apparently clicked the option that also stopped members from DOWNLOADING them too. So the FILES disappeared from the Menu. When you and others questioned where the files had gone, yesterday evening, I went back to Management to have a look to see what was wrong and found I had disallowed members from downloading the files too and rectified this. This is when the FILES SECTION came back into the Menu. …and if you understand all of that, you're a better gal then me! Luv - Sheila Hi Sheila, files were missing from my page yesterday which is why i asked for the internet pharmacies list however today files has re appeared???? its a mystery. nicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Dr. Grossman, This is flatly incorrect, though it sounds like an answer I got recently from USAA when I was arguing with them about their Auto Injury Solutions vendor - " you can just go get the money from the third party carrier, what's the big deal? " So, while it's true that PIP carriers are doing everything they can to shift costs away from themselves and onto patients, doctors and liability carriers, it's also true that they are completely in the wrong in doing so. Nothing has changed in law or reason to cause a third party carrier to start picking up the tab for ongoing care prior to a final result in a case. Respectfully, Ben On Dec 7, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Katanah Grossman wrote: > > Hi all! > I have had a handful of patients lately who say that their car insurance company has told them chiropractors can bill a third party. Has the rule changed...I was under the impression that we could only bill the patient's car insurance. We have lost two or three patients now who have gone to other chiropractors that are doing this. > > Katanah Grossman, DC,CCSP® > > Healthy Living Chiropractic > 10001 SE Sunnyside Rd. Ste 204 > Clackamas, Oregon 97015 > -- Ben Attorney at Law 1205 NW 25th Avenue Portland, OR 97210 p. (503) 224-1787 f. (888) 659-7963 e. Ben@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 DCs who take those cases, and I"ve done it from time to time, can bill the 3rd party, however, you must wait for ALL care to be completed, the litigation to be finished and then get payment at the end. If the patient is a 'flight' risk or the case is shaky, you could end up with nothing. Minga Guerrero DC abowoman@... Re: (unknown) Dr. Grossman, This is flatly incorrect, though it sounds like an answer I got recently from USAA when I was arguing with them about their Auto Injury Solutions vendor - "you can just go get the money from the third party carrier, what's the big deal?" So, while it's true that PIP carriers are doing everything they can to shift costs away from themselves and onto patients, doctors and liability carriers, it's also true that they are completely in the wrong in doing so. Nothing has changed in law or reason to cause a third party carrier to start picking up the tab for ongoing care prior to a final result in a case. Respectfully, Ben On Dec 7, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Katanah Grossman wrote: > > Hi all! > I have had a handful of patients lately who say that their car insurance company has told them chiropractors can bill a third party. Has the rule changed...I was under the impression that we could only bill the patient's car insurance. We have lost two or three patients now who have gone to other chiropractors that are doing this. > > Katanah Grossman, DC,CCSP® > > Healthy Living Chiropractic > 10001 SE Sunnyside Rd. Ste 204 > Clackamas, Oregon 97015 > -- Ben Attorney at Law 1205 NW 25th Avenue Portland, OR 97210 p. (503) 224-1787 f. (888) 659-7963 e. Ben@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I would advise that if a doctor was considering taking this very risky tack, it would make more sense to work on a Letter of Protection basis with the patient and his or her attorney, rather than count on the third party carrier remembering/paying you after they get the injured person's signature on the release. At the end of the day, it's only the patient who owes you any legal duty to pay your bill - not the at-fault party or his/her carrier. Respectfully, Ben On Dec 7, 2011, at 1:41 PM, AboWoman@... wrote: > DCs who take those cases, and I " ve done it from time to time, can bill the 3rd party, however, you must wait for ALL care to be completed, the litigation to be finished and then get payment at the end. If the patient is a 'flight' risk or the case is shaky, you could end up with nothing. > > > Minga Guerrero DC > abowoman@... > > > Re: (unknown) > > > Dr. Grossman, > > This is flatly incorrect, though it sounds like an answer I got recently from USAA when I was arguing with them about their Auto Injury Solutions vendor - " you can just go get the money from the third party carrier, what's the big deal? " So, while it's true that PIP carriers are doing everything they can to shift costs away from themselves and onto patients, doctors and liability carriers, it's also true that they are completely in the wrong in doing so. Nothing has changed in law or reason to cause a third party carrier to start picking up the tab for ongoing care prior to a final result in a case. > > Respectfully, > Ben > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Katanah Grossman wrote: > > > > > Hi all! > > I have had a handful of patients lately who say that their car insurance company has told them chiropractors can bill a third party. Has the rule changed...I was under the impression that we could only bill the patient's car insurance. We have lost two or three patients now who have gone to other chiropractors that are doing this. > > > > Katanah Grossman, DC,CCSP® > > > > Healthy Living Chiropractic > > 10001 SE Sunnyside Rd. Ste 204 > > Clackamas, Oregon 97015 > > > > -- > Ben > Attorney at Law > > 1205 NW 25th Avenue > Portland, OR 97210 > > p. (503) 224-1787 > f. (888) 659-7963 > e. Ben@... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Correct Ben, however these cases are pretty common. I do a lot of them and (knock on wood) have yet to be burned. I too suggest all utilize a lien in such a situation and to keep close contact with the adjuster on the case until resolution of the case. Once they have your bills in their hands they seem to be pretty good about getting payment out when the case closes out. ph Medlin D.C. - ----Original Message----- From: Ben Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:15 PM AboWoman@... Cc: Subject: Re: (unknown) I would advise that if a doctor was considering taking this very risky tack, it would make more sense to work on a Letter of Protection basis with the patient and his or her attorney, rather than count on the third party carrier remembering/paying you after they get the injured person's signature on the release. At the end of the day, it's only the patient who owes you any legal duty to pay your bill - not the at-fault party or his/her carrier. Respectfully, Ben On Dec 7, 2011, at 1:41 PM, AboWoman@... wrote: > DCs who take those cases, and I " ve done it from time to time, can bill the > 3rd party, however, you must wait for ALL care to be completed, the > litigation to be finished and then get payment at the end. If the patient > is a 'flight' risk or the case is shaky, you could end up with nothing. > > > Minga Guerrero DC > abowoman@... > > > Re: (unknown) > > > Dr. Grossman, > > This is flatly incorrect, though it sounds like an answer I got recently > from USAA when I was arguing with them about their Auto Injury Solutions > vendor - " you can just go get the money from the third party carrier, > what's the big deal? " So, while it's true that PIP carriers are doing > everything they can to shift costs away from themselves and onto patients, > doctors and liability carriers, it's also true that they are completely in > the wrong in doing so. Nothing has changed in law or reason to cause a > third party carrier to start picking up the tab for ongoing care prior to > a final result in a case. > > Respectfully, > Ben > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Katanah Grossman wrote: > > > > > Hi all! > > I have had a handful of patients lately who say that their car insurance > > company has told them chiropractors can bill a third party. Has the rule > > changed...I was under the impression that we could only bill the > > patient's car insurance. We have lost two or three patients now who have > > gone to other chiropractors that are doing this. > > > > Katanah Grossman, DC,CCSP® > > > > Healthy Living Chiropractic > > 10001 SE Sunnyside Rd. Ste 204 > > Clackamas, Oregon 97015 > > > > -- > Ben > Attorney at Law > > 1205 NW 25th Avenue > Portland, OR 97210 > > p. (503) 224-1787 > f. (888) 659-7963 > e. Ben@... > > > ------------------------------------ All posts must adhere to OregonDCs rules located on homepage at: / Tell a colleague about OregonDCs! (must be licensed Oregon DC) Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 A McRaeYour email has been pirated. You might want to do something about it!From: "A McRae" <shopsur2@...>bird mites , downy1998@..., finding1cure , gen2church@..., mfrreman@..., genesis2mission@..., orders@..., newsltr@..., shirleycol9@...Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:42:54 AMSubject: (unknown)http://svagrv.hostuju.cz/wenarto3.html------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Merry CHRISTmas to you! Patty On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:35 PM, christiansquash <christiansquash@...>wrote: > ** > > > Merry CHRISTmas to everyone!!! > Liz > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 patricia, christiansquash is also patricia? and me? omg! is kefir a patricia thing? MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE!!! love, patricia in oregon On Dec 23, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Holland-Bender wrote: > Merry CHRISTmas to you! Patty > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:35 PM, christiansquash > <christiansquash@...>wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Merry CHRISTmas to everyone!!! > > Liz > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 I'm also a in Idaho! On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Robinett <patricia@...> wrote: > ** > > > patricia, christiansquash is also patricia? > and me? omg! is kefir a patricia thing? > > MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE!!! > > love, patricia in oregon > > > On Dec 23, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Holland-Bender wrote: > > > Merry CHRISTmas to you! Patty > > > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:35 PM, christiansquash > > <christiansquash@...>wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > Merry CHRISTmas to everyone!!! > > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 The patient presents with a gross generalization. Distortions anddeletions of information need to be explored. Not liking you, the dentist, whompatient has never met before, is not a clear representation of what patient is trying tosay. Start the interview with questioning surprise in your voice as you cause her toreflect by repeating her phrasing, “You don’t like dentists?,†with the expectationthat she will elaborate. Probably she has had a bad experience, and by proceedingfrom the generalization to the specific, communication will advance. It is importantto do active listening and to allow the patient who is somewhat belligerent toventilate her thoughts and feelings. You thereby show that you are differentperhaps from a previous dentist who may not have developed listening skills andleft the patient with a negative view of all dentists. The goals are to enhancecommunication, to develop trust and rap port, and to start a new chapter in thepatient’s dental experience.so answer shd be d i suppose. From: "dr_hibahaboubi@..." <dr_hibahaboubi@...> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 11:45 PM Subject: (unknown) A patient comes in and say_ I don't like dentists...what do you do. Options_agree with then, send them away,offer then sedation or GA , ask them to explain how they feelSent from my BlackBerry® wireless device------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 As a dentist you should always take patient history about past dental work , not liking a dentist can be because of many reasons e.g: physiological reasons...childhood trauma... and other factors. Once you know the reason then you can discuss on tht particular scenario. If patient is in early 60s then they are probably traumatized from dental work done during childhood ;extractions without LA, you compare that with modern dentistry, and discuss the new methods. Sometime patient just want the confident of dentist and you can only do that by consultation and taking pt history. You will never send patient out of surgery- against dental ethics Sedation and GA- not liking dentistry or dentist are not the reasons for referring patient to sedation or GA. They are risk involved in these procedure and should only considered as last option in phobic patients, mental disturbed patients. Sent from on Android From: dr_hibahaboubi@... <dr_hibahaboubi@...>; To: < >; Subject: (unknown) Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 11:45:48 PM A patient comes in and say_ I don't like dentists...what do you do. Options_agree with then, send them away,offer then sedation or GA , ask them to explain how they feelSent from my BlackBerry® wireless device------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi, ! I have seven special needs kids, including , 9, who has an as yet undiagnosed neurological disease, but he also has autoimmune and immune issues, including low IgG and low IgM (some call it CVID, some call it hypogammaglobulinemia, depends on which of his doctors you talk to . He has always gotten sick when he went out, so we kept him home alot. He started Immune globulin 20 months ago and has felt a lot better. He still gets sick, don't get me wrong, but he feels SO MUCH better over all that it is worth doing the infusions. He has much less frequent infections now. We did subcutaneous immune globulin at home every week for over a year, and really liked the convenience of doing it at home, but now we are doing it at an infusion center every 4 weeks because he needs a certain kind of IVIG that is administered there. We bring our DVD player and lots of snacks, and even with his developmental delay and autism, my son does really well! For the infusions at home, we made it a special occasion, too. There are several companies that will send you a " play therapy " type kit for you to talk to your child about what to expect--it even includes play infusion sets to tape on the stuffed animal. You can contact them to send you one for free when you know which immune globulin he will receive. This really helped my child know what to expect. actually likes having an IV better than doing more needles with the subcutaneous infusion, but the subQ infusions are short, whereas the IVIG infusions are a little longer (it depends on your dose as to how long the infusions are, the more you weigh, the more medicine you get)--more time to have to sit still when you are wriggly. Some people can get their IVIG infusions done at home, too. We try to use common sense on not exposing to infections, no sick visitors, good handwashing, lots of antibacterial gel, etc. When he is already sick, his immunity is low, so we try to let him get well before he goes out again. We have chosen to homeschool, but it is a personal choice for each family. I hope that you and your doctors are able to make the right decision for your son's health. You can also check the archives for this group to find out a lot of previously posted information on IVIG versus SCIG (or subQ IG). I hope that this info helps Mindy, in Virginia > Hi everyone, I'm and my son Drew (4) has a rare genetic > condition that > encompasses Di Region II although he does not have Di. This > has > resulted in following IgG and IgA Levels along with low vaccine immunity. > Currently he is dx with hypogammaglobinemia or CVID depending on which of > his > doctors you are talking too. His IgG is 464 and IgA is 20 currently. We've > tried > proflatic Septra tx for about 6 months but it's not helping. He has had 4 > sets > of ear tubes, with his most recent ear infection on Christmas Eve along > with > Pneumonia in both October and Dec. =( B/C his levels are borderline IVIG > has > been discussed but not yet tried. I look forward to learning from everyone > one > what proceeding with infusions would entail, possible other options, and > managing everyday life, as every time we take him out he gets sick. > > > * > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 AMEN Sheila!It is hard. I have no balance - I am all autism all day and my son is only 9 KateOn Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Sheila Keightley <somesheila65@...> wrote: Allow me a moment for a good old fashioned tantrum: Does anyone else ever get exhausted from all the 2nd guessing and wonder if it ever will get better? Medicines, therapies, iep meetings, doctor visits. And what about all the professional relationships on which we heavily depend? I mean, I am so grateful, but maintaining these leaves little time for personal ones. Sex? I haven't a clue anymore. I would need respite to get over the respite because he thinks the date I didn't really enjoy anyway (he locked me out of the shower while I was getting ready) was out of spite. And I feel so supremely selfish for having written that. Everyone, it seems, are always judging our parenting skills, or lack thereof. Spank them, let them cry it out, give them a sticker... And money. I do this autism gig without a car. I need to go to the grocery store and I so am not looking forward to the fight ahead of me of a kid with autism on public transportation. Will it ever get better? -- Kate MyersTravel Desk773.904.8267 V773.698.8184 F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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