Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Is this rude person a member of our group, or spammer? This response I received was unnecessary. Peyton Re: rheumatic (unknown) Are these original studies available anywhere the Internet? I'm looking for the ENTIRE, original study, not a summary written by someone else, and not just the abstract. Thanks, Peyton > > SCIENTIFIC PUBLICATIONS SUPPORTING ANTIBIOTIC THERAPY FOR RHEUMATIC DISEASES > The National Library of Medicine > > MAJOR CLINICAL STUDIES IN THE USE OF MINOCYCLINE (MINOCIN): > > Breedveld F, Dukmans BAC, Mattie H - Minocycline Treatment for Rheumatoid > Arthritis: An Open Dose Study; J of Rheum, 1990; 17:1, 43-46 > > Langevitz P, Bank I, Zemer D, Book M - Treatment of Resistant Rheumatoid > Arthritis with Minocycline: An Open Study; J of Rheum 1992; 10:10, 1502-1504 > > Kloppenburg M, Breedveld F, Terwiel J, Mallee C, Dijkmans BAC - Minocycline > in Active Rheumatoid Arthritis; Arthritis & Rheumatism 1994; 17:5, 629-636 > > Tilley BC, Alarcon AS, Heyse SP, Trentham DE, Neuner R., Kaplan DA, Clegg > DO, Leisen JCC, Buckley L, SM, Duncan H, Pillemer SR, Tuttlemen M, > Fowler SE - Minocycline in Rheumatoid Arthritis: A 48 Week, Double-Blind, > Placebo-Controlled Trial;ls of Internal Medicine, 1995; 122:81-89 > > O'Dell J, Haire C, Palmer W, Drymalski W, Wees S, Churchill M, Eckhoff J, > Weaver A, Doud D, son N, Dietz F, Olson R, Maloney P, Klassen L, > G - Treatment of Early Rheumatoid Arthritis with Minocycline or Placebo: > Results of a Randomized, Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Trial; Arthritis > and Rheumatism May 1997, 40:5, 842-848. > > Scleroderma study published in " Lancet " , Vol 352, Issue 9142, 28th November, > 1998. > Trentham, Chief of Rheumatology, Beth Israel Hospital in Boston, > Massachusetts, and Associate Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School, > reported to the 6th Biennial Congress of the International Society for > Rheumatic Therapies on a small recently concluded study using minocycline in > scleroderma. Eleven patients were enrolled in the study with six completing > it. All showed significant improvement with four achieving remission. Of the > five patients who dropped out, two were due to renal crisis, one was due to > unrelated carcinoma, one changed to IV therapy and one withdrew because of > another medical problem. Click here to read the CNN coverage of this study. > > O'Dell JR, sen G, Haire CE, Blakely K, Palmer W, Wees S, Eckhoff PJ, > Klassen LW, Churchill M, Doud D, Weaver A, GF - Treatment of early > seropositive rheumatoid arthritis with minocycline. Four-year followup of a > double blind, placebo-controlled trial, Arthritis & Rheumatism, 1999, > 42:8,1691-1695 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 My child pulls his tounge, grinds his teeth, and he used to be bad about banging his head but dosnt really do it so much anymore. Rywilli Willingham <rywilli24@...> wrote: hey I know this is off the subject of mercury but i was wondering if anyone has a child that does any of the following things: Eye Rolling Pulling Tongue Teeth Grinding One eye turing inward banging toys into their head thanks _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 hey scarlett what was causing it in your child. I haven't found many parents that had children that pull their tongue. thanks >From: SCARLETT FINNEY <gavinsmom1017@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown) >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:43:19 -0700 (PDT) > > >My child pulls his tounge, grinds his teeth, and he used to be bad about >banging his head but dosnt really do it so much anymore. > > >Rywilli Willingham <rywilli24@...> wrote: >hey I know this is off the subject of mercury but i was wondering if >anyone has a child that does any of the following things: > >Eye Rolling > >Pulling Tongue > >Teeth Grinding > >One eye turing inward > >banging toys into their head > > > >thanks > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I have absolutley no idea. He still pulls on his tongue he will pull on it and his lips till it forms a sore the doc says it is a sensory issue, but I dont believe it. Scarlett Rywilli Willingham <rywilli24@...> wrote: hey scarlett what was causing it in your child. I haven't found many parents that had children that pull their tongue. thanks >From: SCARLETT FINNEY >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown) >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:43:19 -0700 (PDT) > > >My child pulls his tounge, grinds his teeth, and he used to be bad about >banging his head but dosnt really do it so much anymore. > > >Rywilli Willingham wrote: >hey I know this is off the subject of mercury but i was wondering if >anyone has a child that does any of the following things: > >Eye Rolling > >Pulling Tongue > >Teeth Grinding > >One eye turing inward > >banging toys into their head > > > >thanks > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hello, my son grinds his teeth. He has for quite some time. He's 3.6 years old and still uses a pacifier to calm himself. If he doesn't have his " paci " when he sleeps ,he grinds his teeth and they make terrible squeaking noises. (kind of like chalk or fingernails on a chalkboard) It's unbearable to listen to! He also goes through tongue pulling phases. I haven't talked to anyone about these issues. I figure they are just more symptoms of his Autism. Rywilli Willingham <rywilli24@...> wrote:hey scarlett what was causing it in your child. I haven't found many parents that had children that pull their tongue. thanks >From: SCARLETT FINNEY >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown) >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:43:19 -0700 (PDT) > > >My child pulls his tounge, grinds his teeth, and he used to be bad about >banging his head but dosnt really do it so much anymore. > > >Rywilli Willingham wrote: >hey I know this is off the subject of mercury but i was wondering if >anyone has a child that does any of the following things: > >Eye Rolling > >Pulling Tongue > >Teeth Grinding > >One eye turing inward > >banging toys into their head > > > >thanks > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Teeth grinding is usually a sign of zinc deficiency. Magnesium can help also. My kids take a Cal/mag/zinc supplement. -GA Re: [ ] (unknown) >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:43:19 -0700 (PDT) > > >My child pulls his tounge, grinds his teeth, and he used to be bad about >banging his head but dosnt really do it so much anymore. > > >Rywilli Willingham wrote: >hey I know this is off the subject of mercury but i was wondering if >anyone has a child that does any of the following things: > >Eye Rolling > >Pulling Tongue > >Teeth Grinding > >One eye turing inward > >banging toys into their head > > > >thanks > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Hi Maggie! I'm home I wasn't able to get to my computer until today. Anyway, first of all it was really nice meeting you and . I was able to come home Friday night so it was nice to be in my own bed (my fever went away that day). I'm still getting use to my change but so far so good. The only thing is that I got diarrhea and that's always a bit uncomfortable. Other than that I'm excited for my change and I know it's only the beginning. My family has been an awesome support. I've just been sticking to water, gatorade, jello and chicken broth....4 days already so we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 > Hi Maggie! I'm home I wasn't able to get to my computer until today. > Anyway, first of all it was really nice meeting you and . I was able to come > home Friday night so it was nice to be in my own bed (my fever went away that > day). I'm still getting use to my change but so far so good. The only thing > is that I got diarrhea and that's always a bit uncomfortable. Other than > that I'm excited for my change and I know it's only the beginning. My family has > been an awesome support. I've just been sticking to water, gatorade, jello > and chicken broth....4 days already so we'll see. Hey Flav, the diarrhea is normal.. I had it for about 3-4 days, but it did go away! Read thur some of my other messages about some things you can try later on with the soup. One is adding some cream of chicken to the reg. broth and I also made a nice refriend bean soup that is good. But don't try right away!! Also, add some crystyl light to drink if you want. I mix half water and half crystal light in my cup or half juice and water. ( light apple juice non sweeten) The soreness will get better!! Just really take it easy. My port area is just now going down some after 12 days, so it does take some time. I knew you would love Dr. A and Nina they are just awesome. Keep up the great work and post your weight as you lose it!! Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Betty, I'm also on Enbrel but for me it was effective right away. Has your daughter tried methotrexate? The combination of mtx (methothrexate) and enbrel are very effective together. Personally I'd leave Arava for last since there has been many questions on it's safety. Many believe it should be pulled off the market, but I also have to say that we have several members that have been helped by it. I've got a website with information on RA meds that may help: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/drugs.html a > > > Hi everyone, > My daughter who is 28 was diagnosed with RA after many long years of pain. > Her doctor has her on Enbrel and had her on Vioxx as well. Neeless to say she > is no longer taking the Vioxx, but she is still taking the Enbrel. She has > been taking the Enbrel since June 2004, and when she first began treatment was > on Prednisone, Vioxx and Enbrel, she felt great for the first time in a long > time. But when she was taken off the Prednisone, her pain returned, and it > seems the Enbrel isn't very effective. How long does it take to become > effective? Also the cost of the Enbrel is a real hardship for her and yet her > doctor is reluctant to prescribe something less costly- Surely there must be > something- I had looked up some medications, and found one called Arava > (leflunomide). Do any of you know anything about this drug and it's > effectiveness and cost? Thanks in advance for any information you can pass on > to me. > bettymiller56 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Betty, I'm also on Enbrel but for me it was effective right away. Has your daughter tried methotrexate? The combination of mtx (methothrexate) and enbrel are very effective together. Personally I'd leave Arava for last since there has been many questions on it's safety. Many believe it should be pulled off the market, but I also have to say that we have several members that have been helped by it. I've got a website with information on RA meds that may help: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/drugs.html a > > > Hi everyone, > My daughter who is 28 was diagnosed with RA after many long years of pain. > Her doctor has her on Enbrel and had her on Vioxx as well. Neeless to say she > is no longer taking the Vioxx, but she is still taking the Enbrel. She has > been taking the Enbrel since June 2004, and when she first began treatment was > on Prednisone, Vioxx and Enbrel, she felt great for the first time in a long > time. But when she was taken off the Prednisone, her pain returned, and it > seems the Enbrel isn't very effective. How long does it take to become > effective? Also the cost of the Enbrel is a real hardship for her and yet her > doctor is reluctant to prescribe something less costly- Surely there must be > something- I had looked up some medications, and found one called Arava > (leflunomide). Do any of you know anything about this drug and it's > effectiveness and cost? Thanks in advance for any information you can pass on > to me. > bettymiller56 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Flavia, I am so glad you are doing well. I know I was feeling yuck for a few days but I think half of it was all the traveling because once I got home, I felt so much better. I was happy to meet you too. I am going to post the picture tommorow. Maggie > Hi Maggie! I'm home I wasn't able to get to my computer until today. > Anyway, first of all it was really nice meeting you and . I was able to come > home Friday night so it was nice to be in my own bed (my fever went away that > day). I'm still getting use to my change but so far so good. The only thing > is that I got diarrhea and that's always a bit uncomfortable. Other than > that I'm excited for my change and I know it's only the beginning. My family has > been an awesome support. I've just been sticking to water, gatorade, jello > and chicken broth....4 days already so we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 I prefer herbs anytime, Baclofen did just opposite with my system....more spasms, but valerian, passion flower, are relaxing. Bacolfen,Zanaflex,or herbs for stiffness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Baclofen for stifness I take. Only provides me relief in the morning. Get about a 2-4 hr window but after that N/A. mANY HAVE COMPLAINED THAT BACLOFEN TIRES THEM OUT,makes them weaker. I was asked by my dr. if it makes me weaker, to which I replied "it gives me the window and beyond that I did'nt know if I became tired from the baclofen or it was just the wall we all seem to hit in late afternoon '. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby Arredondo low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:52 AM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] (unknown) Bacolfen,Zanaflex,or herbs for stiffness? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 I highly recommend Keppra for spasm. Bestaunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Sorry I haven't been around much this week. My dad died on the 1st of October so my sister has been here and we've been busy with arrangements and such. Hope to be around more often now. We've had some heavy frosts here in Michigan so winter will be upon us before we know it ..yuck! I even looked at a new snow thrower today. Dave will understand the need for one..right Dave? I'm watching the Packers and the Titans right now. Bob Janet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi all..How is everyone..I may not be on line for a little while..Hey Terry did you watch the Busch race yesterday?? I bet is TICKED!!! Is Rick MIA again?? Dave too..Sharon did you get rained out this past wek?? We are still getting a little rain here but not too much..Where is everyone/? Barbara where are you at?? To all the newbies get on here and start talking!! It is far too dead in here!!!!! Jan Do you ?vote. - Register online to vote today! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Sorry about your dad Bob. Watching my Astros right now. SharonBob <mellowcargo2003@...> wrote: Sorry I haven't been around much this week. My dad died on the 1st of October so my sister has been here and we've been busy with arrangements and such. Hope to be around more often now. We've had some heavy frosts here in Michigan so winter will be upon us before we know it ..yuck! I even looked at a new snow thrower today. Dave will understand the need for one..right Dave? I'm watching the Packers and the Titans right now. Bob Janet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi all..How is everyone..I may not be on line for a little while..Hey Terry did you watch the Busch race yesterday?? I bet is TICKED!!! Is Rick MIA again?? Dave too..Sharon did you get rained out this past wek?? We are still getting a little rain here but not too much..Where is everyone/? Barbara where are you at?? To all the newbies get on here and start talking!! It is far too dead in here!!!!! Jan Do you ?vote. - Register online to vote today! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Bob, I'm sorry about your Dad. Here in the desert we don't have a need for a snow blower or a shovel for that matter. I have been here in the desert 23 years. I have seen snow falling to the ground here a few times. But it melts as soon as it hit's the ground. Having lived in the desert for 23 years & 28 years in the mid-west. I thank putting up with the snow, is better then the heat. TerryBob <mellowcargo2003@...> wrote: Sorry I haven't been around much this week. My dad died on the 1st of October so my sister has been here and we've been busy with arrangements and such. Hope to be around more often now. We've had some heavy frosts here in Michigan so winter will be upon us before we know it ..yuck! I even looked at a new snow thrower today. Dave will understand the need for one..right Dave? I'm watching the Packers and the Titans right now. Bob Janet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi all..How is everyone..I may not be on line for a little while..Hey Terry did you watch the Busch race yesterday?? I bet is TICKED!!! Is Rick MIA again?? Dave too..Sharon did you get rained out this past wek?? We are still getting a little rain here but not too much..Where is everyone/? Barbara where are you at?? To all the newbies get on here and start talking!! It is far too dead in here!!!!! Jan Do you ?vote. - Register online to vote today! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Our D-Backs didn't even make the play-off's this year. But the way they were cutting thier key players off, to cut the red ink. Your not going to get into the play off's. TerrySharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: Sorry about your dad Bob. Watching my Astros right now. SharonBob <mellowcargo2003@...> wrote: Sorry I haven't been around much this week. My dad died on the 1st of October so my sister has been here and we've been busy with arrangements and such. Hope to be around more often now. We've had some heavy frosts here in Michigan so winter will be upon us before we know it ..yuck! I even looked at a new snow thrower today. Dave will understand the need for one..right Dave? I'm watching the Packers and the Titans right now. Bob Janet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi all..How is everyone..I may not be on line for a little while..Hey Terry did you watch the Busch race yesterday?? I bet is TICKED!!! Is Rick MIA again?? Dave too..Sharon did you get rained out this past wek?? We are still getting a little rain here but not too much..Where is everyone/? Barbara where are you at?? To all the newbies get on here and start talking!! It is far too dead in here!!!!! Jan Do you ?vote. - Register online to vote today! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Bob, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. Barbara > Hi all..How is everyone..I may not be on line for a little while..Hey Terry did you watch the Busch race yesterday?? I bet is TICKED!!! Is Rick MIA again?? Dave too..Sharon did you get rained out this past wek?? We are still getting a little rain here but not too much..Where is everyone/? Barbara where are you at?? To all the newbies get on here and start talking!! It is far too dead in here!!!!! > > > > > Jan > > > --------------------------------- > Do you ? > vote. - Register online to vote today! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Too bad we didn't bet on thatTerry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote: Our D-Backs didn't even make the play-off's this year. But the way they were cutting thier key players off, to cut the red ink. Your not going to get into the play off's. TerrySharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: Sorry about your dad Bob. Watching my Astros right now. SharonBob <mellowcargo2003@...> wrote: Sorry I haven't been around much this week. My dad died on the 1st of October so my sister has been here and we've been busy with arrangements and such. Hope to be around more often now. We've had some heavy frosts here in Michigan so winter will be upon us before we know it ..yuck! I even looked at a new snow thrower today. Dave will understand the need for one..right Dave? I'm watching the Packers and the Titans right now. Bob Janet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi all..How is everyone..I may not be on line for a little while..Hey Terry did you watch the Busch race yesterday?? I bet is TICKED!!! Is Rick MIA again?? Dave too..Sharon did you get rained out this past wek?? We are still getting a little rain here but not too much..Where is everyone/? Barbara where are you at?? To all the newbies get on here and start talking!! It is far too dead in here!!!!! Jan Do you ?vote. - Register online to vote today! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Sorry to hear about the loss of your father. I know that's a tough thing to go through. Glad you've had family around to help you through it. The snowblower is just as much a necessity here as a lawnmower... I'm close enough to Lambeau, I can hear the announcers and the crowd. What a sorry game it was. -dz-Bob <mellowcargo2003@...> wrote: Sorry I haven't been around much this week. My dad died on the 1st of October so my sister has been here and we've been busy with arrangements and such. Hope to be around more often now. We've had some heavy frosts here in Michigan so winter will be upon us before we know it ..yuck! I even looked at a new snow thrower today. Dave will understand the need for one..right Dave? I'm watching the Packers and the Titans right now. Bob Janet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi all..How is everyone..I may not be on line for a little while..Hey Terry did you watch the Busch race yesterday?? I bet is TICKED!!! Is Rick MIA again?? Dave too..Sharon did you get rained out this past wek?? We are still getting a little rain here but not too much..Where is everyone/? Barbara where are you at?? To all the newbies get on here and start talking!! It is far too dead in here!!!!! Jan Do you ?vote. - Register online to vote today! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I only bet on what I thank are sure things. That leaves out all Az sport teams. (I will kill hin for this. Susy) TerrySharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: Too bad we didn't bet on thatTerry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote: Our D-Backs didn't even make the play-off's this year. But the way they were cutting thier key players off, to cut the red ink. Your not going to get into the play off's. TerrySharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: Sorry about your dad Bob. Watching my Astros right now. SharonBob <mellowcargo2003@...> wrote: Sorry I haven't been around much this week. My dad died on the 1st of October so my sister has been here and we've been busy with arrangements and such. Hope to be around more often now. We've had some heavy frosts here in Michigan so winter will be upon us before we know it ..yuck! I even looked at a new snow thrower today. Dave will understand the need for one..right Dave? I'm watching the Packers and the Titans right now. Bob Janet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi all..How is everyone..I may not be on line for a little while..Hey Terry did you watch the Busch race yesterday?? I bet is TICKED!!! Is Rick MIA again?? Dave too..Sharon did you get rained out this past wek?? We are still getting a little rain here but not too much..Where is everyone/? Barbara where are you at?? To all the newbies get on here and start talking!! It is far too dead in here!!!!! Jan Do you ?vote. - Register online to vote today! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Hahaha, Hi Audry, I'm Myrna. Have a super night. " May the Great and Wise Wolf guide your path " Myrna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Audrey, Don't get me wrong, I know nothing about this, but I do believe they were talking about the leaves and not the fruit. Luv, Sprite " When you drink the water, remember the spring. " Chinese proverb Check out my Kombucha Information page, it has links to all kinds of KT info and more: <A HREF= " http://www.geocities.com/ladyfangs.geo/Page5.html " >Sprite's Kombucha Page</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Aha! That's probably where I went astray Audrey Don't get me wrong, I know nothing about this, but I do believe they were talking about the leaves and not the fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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