Guest guest Posted December 22, 2001 Report Share Posted December 22, 2001 Hi DZ If they can't explain it. It doesn't happen. Merry Christmas to you. Re: [ ] (unknown) > It's one of those things that doctors say patients > don't experience, but patients say they do experience > it. I complained of many things along the way that my > dr said were not associated with the hcv. My opinion > is that the dr's don't understand why it happens so > they say that it doesn't happen. -dz- > > --- diane214@... wrote: > > Hi Ada, > > They say the liver isn't supposed to hurt but I > > have pain 24/7 under > > my right ribs and around my back..... Feels like a > > toothache and burns > > and throbs.... Sometimes feels like a stabbing pain. > > We all have the > > same complaint.... Seems to me that there is > > something tied in there > > somewhere.... The tiredness is also a symptom of Hep > > C..... You don't > > have to be on treatment to feel the symptoms.... > > Forgetfulness is also > > associated with the Hep.... Hey....... Think I could > > forget about > > Christmas presents and blame it on the Hep C? > > Wouldn't work would it? > > LOL.... Hope we helped you out some...... Jan? Is > > everything big in > > Texas as the saying goes????? LOL > > > > Angel Hugs, > > Diane > > > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, > > Peace & Unity > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Hi , What level was your daughter's dysbiosis? Evan's was a 4+ Our pedia and a nurse friend of mine both told me to treat the bacteria first before continuing to chelate. Have you checked her stool since you've been chelating further and since she first had bacteria? Happy Holidays! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 Dear Dawn, I read your statement about no safe antidepressant. I am sorry that I made the fuzzy statement to Mr.T. Suzy >From: " DAWN RIDER " <israelswarrior@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >gonzalocalvo2@... >CC: SSRI medications , prozactruth , >PROZACAWARENESS >Subject: (unknown) >Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 00:38:36 -0700 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Dear Mr. Gandia, I am in association with hundreds of people across the United States and Europe who believe that there are no "safe" antidepressant pharmaceutical preparations on the market today. I personally believe that the dangers of the antidepressant drugs far outweigh the benefits to most people. What were you prescribed Paxil (paroxetina) for? Anxiety? Depression? Were all other physical maladies ruled out first? Depression can be the result of a number of underlying physical ailments.. thyroid problems & low blood sugar are only two of the many possibilities that come to mind. Please review the information on the following websites: http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com http://www.drugawareness.org http://www.prozactruth.com http://www.pssg.org Also, if you would like to join a support group where you can interact with many others who have used Paxil, and have decided that it is not helping as much as it is causing additional problems, please go to the home page of . http:// From here you will need to establish a identification name and password. Once you have done this, then type any of the following "key" words into the "search for groups" window: PROZACAWARENESS prozactruth SSRI medications Once you have been accepted as a new member to one or all of these groups, you can email any of the members who belong to these groups, and receive copies of all the messages that are posted to these groups. I hope this information is of some help to you. Please let me know if you need any other information. And, thanks for signing the petition! The Avenging Angel 4104. Gonzalo Calvo Gandía I am taking paroxetina. Are there any antidepressives safer (amitriptilina, imipramina...)? Please write me: gonzalocalvo2@... Machado, 31 46810 Enguera Valencia SPAIN Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 Dear Dawn, I read your statement about no safe antidepressant. I am sorry that I made the fuzzy statement to Mr.T. Suzy >From: " DAWN RIDER " <israelswarrior@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >gonzalocalvo2@... >CC: SSRI medications , prozactruth , >PROZACAWARENESS >Subject: (unknown) >Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 00:38:36 -0700 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Dear Mr. Gandia, I am in association with hundreds of people across the United States and Europe who believe that there are no "safe" antidepressant pharmaceutical preparations on the market today. I personally believe that the dangers of the antidepressant drugs far outweigh the benefits to most people. What were you prescribed Paxil (paroxetina) for? Anxiety? Depression? Were all other physical maladies ruled out first? Depression can be the result of a number of underlying physical ailments.. thyroid problems & low blood sugar are only two of the many possibilities that come to mind. Please review the information on the following websites: http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com http://www.drugawareness.org http://www.prozactruth.com http://www.pssg.org Also, if you would like to join a support group where you can interact with many others who have used Paxil, and have decided that it is not helping as much as it is causing additional problems, please go to the home page of . http:// From here you will need to establish a identification name and password. Once you have done this, then type any of the following "key" words into the "search for groups" window: PROZACAWARENESS prozactruth SSRI medications Once you have been accepted as a new member to one or all of these groups, you can email any of the members who belong to these groups, and receive copies of all the messages that are posted to these groups. I hope this information is of some help to you. Please let me know if you need any other information. And, thanks for signing the petition! The Avenging Angel 4104. Gonzalo Calvo Gandía I am taking paroxetina. Are there any antidepressives safer (amitriptilina, imipramina...)? Please write me: gonzalocalvo2@... Machado, 31 46810 Enguera Valencia SPAIN Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 The only antibiotics I have had in the past umpteen years was for a UTI while pregnant. First did the cranberry and aloe vera juice but after 3 days still no change. My hubby was freaking and telling me that it was a major cause of miscarriages so I succumbed(I only get these while pregnant). I have had all the symptoms of everyone else " needing " antibiotics but I refused unless it's a life-threatening emergency and have recovered as well as the others. The past 6 years I have especially insisted on avoiding them as I have been nursing and/or pregnant. A lot of people say " It must be nice to be married to a doctor " but I think it'd be nicer to be married to a massage therapist,chiropractor, or homeopath! Hours SUCK but he's finally getting the message NO DRUGS!!! He does what he wants with his care but for me and our children he knows better than to offer unless he thinks it's an emergency(and now he's suggesting mother's milk instead...whee haa!!) So you probably don't need them either Think of the money you'll save Laurie>Oh Rarely does ANYONE need antibitics other than in life/death situation. It used to be said that a strep throat goes away in 7 days with antibiotics and takes a week without them (or was that ear infections - can't remember) Same thing! Kick the antibiotic habit. You are only weakening your immune system. Get thee to the homeopath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 thanks you for the ecard too rebecca, shawna ===== shawna __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 I can totally agree w/you on most everything you said, except the door thing, I don't wear hats. And to let you know I do laugh at myself atleast once a day. It would be unhealthy not to. You gave really good advice, and lp's should just face who they are " amazing " . >From: Matt Myers <tootalll12@...> >dwarfism >Subject: (unknown) >Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:59:42 -0800 (PST) > >To Whom it May Concern, > >I read some of these messages through this group. I >sit back and wonder many things about us as a group. >First, I wonder if all we do is grip and complain >about things for the most part we can't do a great >deal about. Secondly, I wonder if all we can do is say >hey look at me I am different than u. > >Maybe its just me but I think its time we get back to >the basics of life. A tall man doesn't complain >because he didn't out come average size. Why can't we >laugh at ourselves and some of our daily struggles. I >have my days too. But as long as I know that my joy >will come. One of my favorite lines is as follows. >Sadness my last for the night but my joy will come in >the morning. > >Two of my favorite things to laugh about is 1. Those >electronic doors like at Wal-Mart, I don't always trip >the sensor, so u wear a hat and toss it in the air and >you catch it and walk right in like no big deal. 2. Is >those handicapped toilets in public restrooms, I >realize that they serve a great purpose in our >society. But I get just the biggest kick out of people >who can't see my feet and they try to walk into the >stall, They act dumbpuzzeled that someone is actually >in there. Just because I had to pole vault on there >and hope I landed on it, doesn't mean I'm not in >there. So please try to laugh at yourself at least >once or twice a day, it may make things not as bad as >they seem. > >Matt > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Your welcome a --- mashawnag <mashawnag@...> wrote: > thanks you for the ecard too rebecca, shawna > > ===== > shawna > ===== __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2001 Report Share Posted December 30, 2001 At 01:38 PM 12/30/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Well, I will definitely have to take the homeopathy class now--I tried the >teething tablets before for my 1 yr old and don't really know if they >helped, but he has had a stuffy nose that I just can't get rid of so I was >reading a alternative therapies book for children that included homepathy >and his symptoms matched up with Pusatilla (sp) so I went and got some and >gave it to him 3 times and he's almost clear--Wow! > >I gotta learn more:) > >Malissa (Wi) > Yup! Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 In a message dated 1/1/02 12:15:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, Strider3@... writes: > > 1. At least 5 people in this world love you so much > > they would die for > > you. > Hey, easy for me!! Just IMAGINE my kids doing their own laundry or NOT having popovers for New Year's dinner!!!!! Definitely worth dying over....LOLOLOL Thanks , this was quite nice!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 your welcome, you had popovers- those are good. haha yeah it would be nice if everyone did their own laundry. > > > > > 1. At least 5 people in this world love you so > much > > > they would die for > > > you. > > > > Hey, easy for me!! Just IMAGINE my kids doing > their own laundry or NOT > having popovers for New Year's dinner!!!!! > Definitely worth dying > over....LOLOLOL > Thanks , this was quite nice!! > Donna > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 Welcome Terry. I have completed the treatment and am currently in remission. There are many side effects of the combo, fortunately I don't think anybody gets them all! I had a tough couple of weeks when I started, but it mellowed out. Through the remainder of treatment I was mainly fatigued most of the time, but the " flu-like " symptoms came and went. I have been able to continue working full time all along (after having taken a medical leave for the first couple of weeks). The severity of the side effects seems to vary widely from person to person. Most of us can tolerate it though, some have to discontinue. -dz- --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote: > At little about myself. I am 48 years old been > marred > to my wife Susy for 24 years old. We have 2 children > almost 25 & 23. 2 grandkids Abbey 9 & > Pete 3. > I just found out I had hepatitis C last year. The > only way I could have contracted this was though a > blood transfusion in 1985. > My lab work showed only a light amount of > hepatitis > in the liver. But heavy scaring in the liver. I will > be starting a combo treatment on the 15th. The more > I > have been reading on line about " the side affects " > what others have dealt with. I get a little > concerned. > Can anyone that has been or is now going through > this > give me some positive feedback. > Terry > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Hi Terry First off welcome to our group. You'll find lots of information and support here. As for the treatment. Some of us tolerate the side effects without too much trouble, while some can't tolerate them at all. You can expect to have some fever, chills, and have some aches in the beginning. These usually subside with time to at least a tolerable level with time.If you think you might be prone to depression I would suggest starting on an antidepressant before starting treatment. This is something you might talk with your DR. about. The best advice that I can give is to keep up a positive attitude. Let me introduce myself. I'm the moderator of the group. I contracted hepc in the early 70's and have been through 2 rounds of treatment so far. Well I better go for now. My work day is going to begin a little earlier than usual today. [ ] (unknown) > At little about myself. I am 48 years old been marred > to my wife Susy for 24 years old. We have 2 children > almost 25 & 23. 2 grandkids Abbey 9 & > Pete 3. > I just found out I had hepatitis C last year. The > only way I could have contracted this was though a > blood transfusion in 1985. > My lab work showed only a light amount of hepatitis > in the liver. But heavy scaring in the liver. I will > be starting a combo treatment on the 15th. The more I > have been reading on line about " the side affects " > what others have dealt with. I get a little concerned. > Can anyone that has been or is now going through this > give me some positive feedback. > Terry > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Good advice. The problem with antidepressents is that they take 2-4 weeks to begin to start working, so better to start sooner than later. I mentioned it(going on this treatment) to my shrink and he put me on them right away. I have heard many people who waited until they were suffering from depression, wishing they had started sooner. -dz- --- <ralexan@...> wrote: > Hi Terry > > First off welcome to our group. You'll find lots of > information and support > here. > > As for the treatment. Some of us tolerate the side > effects without too much > trouble, while some can't tolerate them at all. You > can expect to have some > fever, chills, and have some aches in the beginning. > These usually subside > with time to at least a tolerable level with time.If > you think you might be > prone to depression I would suggest starting on an > antidepressant before > starting treatment. This is something you might talk > with your DR. about. > The best advice that I can give is to keep up a > positive attitude. > > Let me introduce myself. I'm the moderator of > the group. I contracted > hepc in the early 70's and have been through 2 > rounds of treatment so far. > > Well I better go for now. My work day is going to > begin a little earlier > than usual today. > > > > [ ] (unknown) > > > > At little about myself. I am 48 years old been > marred > > to my wife Susy for 24 years old. We have 2 > children > > almost 25 & 23. 2 grandkids Abbey 9 > & > > Pete 3. > > I just found out I had hepatitis C last year. > The > > only way I could have contracted this was though a > > blood transfusion in 1985. > > My lab work showed only a light amount of > hepatitis > > in the liver. But heavy scaring in the liver. I > will > > be starting a combo treatment on the 15th. The > more I > > have been reading on line about " the side affects " > > what others have dealt with. I get a little > concerned. > > Can anyone that has been or is now going through > this > > give me some positive feedback. > > Terry > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Hi Terry nice to hear from ya..We don't get snow here either in good old cajun country..We do get alot of mosquitoes and rain though..So you are a paw pawpaw of 3?? I am a granny of 3!!! Stay in touch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Hi Terry, I'm Diane..... Sending you a big warm welcome to our family...... I am sure you will do just fine with your treatment..... I am one of the older ones here....(53) shhhhhhhhhhhhh........ I live in N.J. 30 miles west of Atlantic City.... Dennis. I think you have me beat... Am I right or wrong??? Doesn't matter..... We all stand beside each other no matter what!!!!!! And we are all here for you and all of the new additions to our group.... Don't ever feel alone.... . Angel Hugs, Diane May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 I want some snow!!! But just a little of it..Remember my cold knees!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 I would miss my snow, too. I liked the climate in Denver a little more than here. We got plenty of snow, but warm days in between. Here we just go into a deep freeze, the snow that falls in January will still be on the ground in March. -dz- --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote: > Colleen > This is Terry, hope you get your snow. That and > rain > is some of the things I miss in southern AZ. We only > get 7 inches of rain a year. If I want to see snow > it's a 125 mile drive. > I will be starting my treatments on the 15th. > Shots > & pills. I am hoping that I do as well as you have. > Terry > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 The way I look at it by now, I'm 48, 53 is not that different. The only thing I'm counting agewise anymore is how long I have until retirement... -dz- --- diane214@... wrote: > Hi Terry, > I'm Diane..... Sending you a big warm welcome to > our family...... I am > sure you will do just fine with your treatment..... > I am one of the > older ones here....(53) shhhhhhhhhhhhh........ I > live in N.J. 30 miles > west of Atlantic City.... > > Dennis. I think you have me beat... Am I right or > wrong??? Doesn't > matter..... We all stand beside each other no matter > what!!!!!! And we > are all here for you and all of the new additions to > our group.... Don't > ever feel alone.... . > > Angel Hugs, > Diane > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, > Peace & Unity > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 That's a good one -dz-..... Most people in our age group are thinking about that..... The Government raised the retirement age........ That is really a let down..... You can go out early but there is a big difference in what you can collect..... Angel Hugs, Diane May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 I feel that if all the good people with all the ideas, expertise, learning and motivation leave then there will never be any change in the status quo. I am aiming to stay and to be as active as possible both in my centre and possibly at region as well. I will remain chair of the Interest Group for Parenting and Family Support as long as the group want me there and I will encourage everyone to become active in their centres. It is difficult at present but I do think the best way to encourage change is to use the structures effectively by becoming pro-active within the organisation. Anyone else any suggestions? Best wishes, (unknown) > Faced with my extortionate bill for subscribing to the CPHVA I'm > wondering if others feel like me: if we are feeling so let down by > them should we be voting with our chequebook and not subscribing? Am > I missing some other vital component they bring? what are others' > thoughts? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Malinda, We started DMSA with our son Hunter when he was 3 1/2 and he weighed about 32 pounds. We used 25 mg. every 4 hours for 3 days on and 4 off with awesome results. When we added ALA that was another story. Jo Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina www.unlockingautism.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH......Dave's at work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 I know, I can retire at 66. They are stepping it up gradually. I think my wife can retire at 66 and 2 months. I guess it was inevitable, people are living longer. I guess you can also opt to work until you're 70 and then get a much larger check. I don't foresee me spending too much time contemplating that option. -dz- --- diane214@... wrote: > That's a good one -dz-..... Most people in our age > group are thinking > about that..... The Government raised the retirement > age........ That > is really a let down..... You can go out early but > there is a big > difference in what you can collect..... > > Angel Hugs, > Diane > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, > Peace & Unity > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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