Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 i got your card too nancy , my hubby goes who do we know from califoria,lol it took me a few moments to remember the group and the cards,lol. My plans are to send ours out this weekend. shawna. ===== shawna __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 Bethanne, Working in the medical field I can tell you. Dr's are not God. You must be assertive. You have got to take control of your medical care and what direction it is going in. Never, Never, Never be affraid to question. Any Dr. that gets upset if you question would worry me. If he is confident in his diagnosis he will understand that with a diagnosis of AIH you have every right to question. Your life depends on the correct diagnosis and mangement of you medications. If your Dr. gets upset move on. I have fired a long term family MD who has been a friend and family MD for years because he failed after 3 phone calls to report on an abnormal CT scan I had. Still haven't heard from him. Called myself and had hospital fax report to my office (I work for a physician and I had the results in 5 mins.) New family MD is working well with GI doc and Hepatologist. Never be affraid to question. I't's you life and your right. Hang in there and always question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 In a message dated 12/16/01 12:43:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, MKANTZLE@... writes: .. I have fired a long term family MD who has been a friend and family MD for years because he failed after 3 phone calls to report on an abnormal CT scan I had. Still haven't heard from him. Called myself and had hospital fax report to my office (I work for a physician and I had the results in 5 mins.) New family MD is working well with GI doc and Hepatologist. Never be affraid to question. I't's you life and your right. GOOD FOR YOU MONICA!!!! SORRY YOU LOST A FRIEND THOUGH..... BUT HEY, IF YOUR FRIENDS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR HEALTH, THEN THEIR NOT YOUR REAL FRIENDS RIGHT? AND HE/ SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR HEALTH TO BOOT!! GLAD YOU HAVE SOMEONE ELSE!! TAKE CARE.... **HAPPY**HOLIDAYS** **AND WARM HUGS** Bert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 Thanks for the input and the support. It is greatly appreciated. I am definitely switching docs, it is just that I couldn't get in until January 3rd. Thanks again!! Bethanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 <Any Dr. that gets upset if you question would worry me. If your Dr. gets upset move on. > Oh yes! I totally agree with this statement! Once, I questioned a doctor when I told him that another doctor would like to talk to him about his dx. I continued that I had some questions about what he meant by the dx of Drug Induced Lupus that he had given me....He was so infuriated that he got up and walked out of the office. My husband was with me and he was totally infuriated with this doctor and agree that I was NEVER to see him again! I never went back, but did write a letter to him pointing out his improper dx and also some impoper history that he had taken from me. He said I had one disease when I had told him it was another...very similar in name, but VAST difference where they are found! So...instead of saying that he didn't know what the disease was, he wrote the other disease down...hey...they are NOT gods!!! But many think they are! debby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hi Janet, Well your beans should be sprouting by now. It probably was not necessary to soak them for 2 days. Let us know how they turned out. Marilyn --- Janet Agulnik <janet_agulnik@...> wrote: > Hi there > I just am trying to sprout some kidney beans in a > glass jar with a screen > lid. I soaked the beans for 2 days, rinsing several > times, and today I > drained out the wqter, layed the jar on it's side, > and put the jar in my > kitchen cupboard. Am I doing it right? Anyone? > Thanks, Janet > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > ===== Life is 10% what you make it, and 90% how you take it. - Irving Berlin __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hey, Janet, I've always soaked my beans and seeds overnight, then drained thoroughly followed by 2-3 rinses daily and had considerable success. (unknown) > Hi there > I just am trying to sprout some kidney beans in a glass jar with a screen > lid. I soaked the beans for 2 days, rinsing several times, and today I > drained out the wqter, layed the jar on it's side, and put the jar in my > kitchen cupboard. Am I doing it right? Anyone? > Thanks, Janet > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hi, Thanks for replying. My beans are starting to sprout now, and it's the first time I've ever done it. Hope they're edible! Janet >From: " " <angelmoon@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: (unknown) >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:30:57 -0800 > >Hey, Janet, I've always soaked my beans and seeds overnight, then drained >thoroughly followed by 2-3 rinses daily and had considerable success. > > (unknown) > > > > Hi there > > I just am trying to sprout some kidney beans in a glass jar with a >screen > > lid. I soaked the beans for 2 days, rinsing several times, and today I > > drained out the wqter, layed the jar on it's side, and put the jar in my > > kitchen cupboard. Am I doing it right? Anyone? > > Thanks, Janet > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hi Marilyn, I noticed some of the beans starting to sprout, so I hope they all will,since it's the first try for me. Like anything else, the first time is always the hardest. Thanks for your reply. It's nice to know there are people who care. Janet >From: Marilyn Jarzembski <marilynjarz@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: (unknown) >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:10:26 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Janet, >Well your beans should be sprouting by now. It >probably was not necessary to soak them for 2 days. >Let us know how they turned out. Marilyn > >--- Janet Agulnik <janet_agulnik@...> wrote: > > Hi there > > I just am trying to sprout some kidney beans in a > > glass jar with a screen > > lid. I soaked the beans for 2 days, rinsing several > > times, and today I > > drained out the wqter, layed the jar on it's side, > > and put the jar in my > > kitchen cupboard. Am I doing it right? Anyone? > > Thanks, Janet > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > > your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > >===== >Life is 10% what you make it, >and 90% how you take it. >- Irving Berlin > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 That is awful Debby. I'm glad you were on top of things enough to know it was wrong!! Bethanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 Debby, Next doctor to walk out or get angry because you want information tell him you are going to research on the net if you won't tell me they hate that. But my doctors play better since I have done tons of research and call them on things. gayle/trans 6-99 galye@... q~q ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 Hi Suzy, I have it on and off - mostly off now days, but it was bad for a while. Check kidney function too. But it could be nothing major too. I have found that if I slack off on eating enough protein my swelling is worse. Also, sitting for too long in front of this computer!!! (The edge of chair impairs circulation.) Alternately, standing for too many hours. I guess you have to balance between walking (or worse, just standing) and sitting. If there is nothing wrong with heart or kidneys, look to your diet and anything that may be affecting circulation in your legs. Good luck, I know how uncomfortable it can be! I do have some diuretics I can take if I really need them. Claudine --- Suzy Balone <suzybalone@...> wrote: > Hello, > Was wondering if anyone has had much problem with > pedal edema? as in > swellling of the lower legs? > My legs look like balloons, had little blood vessals > break __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 thanks Claudine, i do think I ate enough protein, but who knows, will get the tests back tomorrow hopefully, he did check kidneys too, glad to hear someone else has gotten it, I did some walking on vacation but I did not work out and so was out of my routine, maybe I sat around more than I thought. It is already going down some thank goodness, was getting rather uncomfortable. The funny thing is, he wrote a prescription for a diuretic and I really don't think I'm peeing that much more , did cut down on my water also though today, will keep in touch Thank you again Suzy _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 Gayle...that is awesome! Glad it worked for you! debby Re: [ ] (unknown) Debby,Next doctor to walk out or get angry because you want information tell him you are going to research on the net if you won't tell me they hate that. But my doctors play better since I have done tons of research and call them on things.gayle/trans 6-99galye@... q~q ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 I second 's wish for everyone for a happy and pain-free Christmas-- Deb Swaney (Meg's Mom 12 yr.old pauci) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2001 Report Share Posted December 20, 2001 Hello Ada..The liver supposedly feels no pain but when it is inflammed it does hurt the surronding areas..I learned that through this group..I am going through the same thing except now i'm not nauseated..I also feel very tired..It comes and goes..Sometimes it feels like it stays more than it goes though..I am no longer on treatment and still feel exhausted often..Joint aches also.Just keep in touch with us and I hope this information helped you..I'm sure tomorrow you will hear more from the rest of us..Hope your holidays are blessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2001 Report Share Posted December 20, 2001 Hi Ada, They say the liver isn't supposed to hurt but I have pain 24/7 under my right ribs and around my back..... Feels like a toothache and burns and throbs.... Sometimes feels like a stabbing pain. We all have the same complaint.... Seems to me that there is something tied in there somewhere.... The tiredness is also a symptom of Hep C..... You don't have to be on treatment to feel the symptoms.... Forgetfulness is also associated with the Hep.... Hey....... Think I could forget about Christmas presents and blame it on the Hep C? Wouldn't work would it? LOL.... Hope we helped you out some...... Jan? Is everything big in Texas as the saying goes????? LOL Angel Hugs, Diane May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Diane I haven't found anything big in Texas that would put a SMILE on my face yet..I'll keep looking and let ya know!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Ada see I told you everyone would be answering you..I hope you have found some comfort in our opinions and advice...We all wish you jappy holidays..Please stay in touch and let us know how you are feeling and remember we are here for comfort also!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Abdominal pain is one of the first symptoms I experienced before starting treatment and is a common complaint. They say that the liver does not feel pain, but I believe that it causes pain in the surrounding tissue. The symptoms of hepatitis are very similar to those experienced from the treatment. -dz- --- adapena1 <adapena1@...> wrote: > Hello every one > Happy holidays to all. > Can any one tell me if the the liver hurts? > Because, for the last > month or so, I've been waking up in the middle of > the night with > stomach pains & nausea. I also feel very fatigue, > like a truck hit > me. Am not on the Inteferon yet so I can't blame > the medication. > Ada > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 It's one of those things that doctors say patients don't experience, but patients say they do experience it. I complained of many things along the way that my dr said were not associated with the hcv. My opinion is that the dr's don't understand why it happens so they say that it doesn't happen. -dz- --- diane214@... wrote: > Hi Ada, > They say the liver isn't supposed to hurt but I > have pain 24/7 under > my right ribs and around my back..... Feels like a > toothache and burns > and throbs.... Sometimes feels like a stabbing pain. > We all have the > same complaint.... Seems to me that there is > something tied in there > somewhere.... The tiredness is also a symptom of Hep > C..... You don't > have to be on treatment to feel the symptoms.... > Forgetfulness is also > associated with the Hep.... Hey....... Think I could > forget about > Christmas presents and blame it on the Hep C? > Wouldn't work would it? > LOL.... Hope we helped you out some...... Jan? Is > everything big in > Texas as the saying goes????? LOL > > Angel Hugs, > Diane > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, > Peace & Unity > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 In a message dated 12/21/01 2:31:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, michalesj@... writes: > I am new to these boards and am not sure how to post. I hope this works. looked good to me!! Is this Judy? Welcome to the list!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Jan, Isn't Texas where Floyd was from? Now you know the answer..... LOL.... Angel Hugs, Diane May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Hello Ada The liver itself does not feel pain. An inflamed liver can push on other things that do feel pain. Nausea and fatigue are symptoms of an unhealthy liver. Merry Christmas [ ] (unknown) > Hello every one > Happy holidays to all. > Can any one tell me if the the liver hurts? Because, for the last > month or so, I've been waking up in the middle of the night with > stomach pains & nausea. I also feel very fatigue, like a truck hit > me. Am not on the Inteferon yet so I can't blame the medication. > Ada > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2001 Report Share Posted December 22, 2001 It must be part of the larger psychosis that's making us all imagine these things.. -dz- --- <ralexan@...> wrote: > Hi DZ > > If they can't explain it. It doesn't happen. > > Merry Christmas to you. > > > Re: [ ] (unknown) > > > > It's one of those things that doctors say patients > > don't experience, but patients say they do > experience > > it. I complained of many things along the way that > my > > dr said were not associated with the hcv. My > opinion > > is that the dr's don't understand why it happens > so > > they say that it doesn't happen. -dz- > > > > --- diane214@... wrote: > > > Hi Ada, > > > They say the liver isn't supposed to hurt but > I > > > have pain 24/7 under > > > my right ribs and around my back..... Feels like > a > > > toothache and burns > > > and throbs.... Sometimes feels like a stabbing > pain. > > > We all have the > > > same complaint.... Seems to me that there is > > > something tied in there > > > somewhere.... The tiredness is also a symptom of > Hep > > > C..... You don't > > > have to be on treatment to feel the symptoms.... > > > Forgetfulness is also > > > associated with the Hep.... Hey....... Think I > could > > > forget about > > > Christmas presents and blame it on the Hep C? > > > Wouldn't work would it? > > > LOL.... Hope we helped you out some...... Jan? > Is > > > everything big in > > > Texas as the saying goes????? LOL > > > > > > Angel Hugs, > > > Diane > > > > > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, > Hope, > > > Peace & Unity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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