Chicken Pox

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Rina,

Posting info on the OT4VAX list...

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:56 PM, kisses4chuly <kisses4chuly@...> wrote:

>

>

> Candace,

> what is a waldorf school? I've hear that word before but i am

> unsure of what type of school that is.

>

> Thanks,

> Rina

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to know if anyone has purposely exposed their children to chicken

pox.  What do you do if your child is in school?

 I had the worst case as a child, and was absolutely miserable for at least 2

weeks.  Another thing I worry about, is my husband contracting it because he had

such a mild case as a child.

Would he get shingles? 

Thanks,

Jen

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[Guest guest]

They're not tiny for CP, although they can vary in size. They eventually look

like blisters and cause a lot of itching. If you really think it's CP, I would

have some homeopathic Rhus Tox on hand. It works wonders for my kids for CP and

poison ivy.

Winnie

Chicken Pox

Vaccinations

> I thought my daughter didn't have chicken pox because it didn't

> spread

> or get any worse (about 10-12 spots on her belly/chest). Most

> are

> really tiny - but then I read on here that it doesn't have to be

> more

> than t his? Any way to know for sure without taking her in? SHe

> also

> doesn't act sick (other than tired from being up late 2 nights

> in a

> row).........????

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think the fact the Merck now markets a shingles vaccine speaks volumes on this

topic, that yes, it really has been pushed onto the adult population. Here's an

article I enjoyed on the subject. http://tinyurl.com/5sm28d

Bronwyn

Wife to Kurt since 5/02

Mom to:

Dorian (7/04)

Faith (2/06)

Quinn (4/08)

and my faithful steed Teo (4/91) since 9/95

[Guest guest]

My dad made a paste of Borax? and put it on the spots. Worked great.

Don't know if melaleuca oil or Lavender oil would work as well.

Diane

> think ds (2 y.o.) has chicken pox. for those of you whose

> kids have had it, what (if any) did you use

> for the itching? we haven't gotten to the itchy

> stage yet but want to be prepared.

>

> dina

>

[Guest guest]

I totally forgot to mention oatmeal. It's awesome. Get an old sock or

knee high. Put regular oats in it or quick oats just not the instant

from packets.

Put in tub with warm water. The oats get all slimy, mushy and creamy

feeling. Let child play in warm/tepid water with the oatmeal sock.

Rub oatmeal sock all over child.

When child is done stand in tub without water and rub oatmeal sock

all over child like it's lotion. Let it dry on their skin. You might

even be able to save it in a container/ziplock bag put in fridge and

reuse.

Probably run warm water over it first. This slimy sock worked great

for my kids and we had lots on hand. Don't worry if your child looks

a little pasty ;o)

I also give extra vitamins and real juices during this time and

eliminate sugars and white flours. When spots start crusting over try

rubbing down with good Olive oil. Virgin Olive oil is awesome. I

didn't know this but if a child is sick and not wanting to eat you

can rub them down with virgin olive oil and it's good for them and

helps give them nutrition. Of course you want to get fluids in them.

I had a sick child and gave her a warm bath and than rubbed her down

in garlic oil made from olive oil. She smelled so yummy LOL. She had

a fever about 104. The next day she was doing great.

I wished you live near me. I have 2 kids that need to get CP over

with. Wished there was a way to send it through the mail LOL.

Diane

> think ds (2 y.o.) has chicken pox. for those of you whose

> kids have had it, what (if any) did you use

> for the itching? we haven't gotten to the itchy

> stage yet but want to be prepared.

>

> dina

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for the tips. didn't know that about olive oil. will keep that

in mind.

still not 100% sure he has them. the spots seem to be changing

color (turning white). i guess time will tell.

i've been worried about fluids since he doesn't really want

to drink a lot of water but he's been nursing A LOT. he

seems ok.

think the fever broke a little while ago. now we wait i guess.

thanks again!

dina

>

> I totally forgot to mention oatmeal. It's awesome. Get an old sock or

> knee high. Put regular oats in it or quick oats just not the instant

> from packets.

>

> Put in tub with warm water. The oats get all slimy, mushy and creamy

> feeling. Let child play in warm/tepid water with the oatmeal sock.

> Rub oatmeal sock all over child.

>

> When child is done stand in tub without water and rub oatmeal sock

> all over child like it's lotion. Let it dry on their skin. You might

> even be able to save it in a container/ziplock bag put in fridge and

> reuse.

>

> Probably run warm water over it first. This slimy sock worked great

> for my kids and we had lots on hand. Don't worry if your child looks

> a little pasty ;o)

>

> I also give extra vitamins and real juices during this time and

> eliminate sugars and white flours. When spots start crusting over try

> rubbing down with good Olive oil. Virgin Olive oil is awesome. I

> didn't know this but if a child is sick and not wanting to eat you

> can rub them down with virgin olive oil and it's good for them and

> helps give them nutrition. Of course you want to get fluids in them.

>

> I had a sick child and gave her a warm bath and than rubbed her down

> in garlic oil made from olive oil. She smelled so yummy LOL. She had

> a fever about 104. The next day she was doing great.

>

> I wished you live near me. I have 2 kids that need to get CP over

> with. Wished there was a way to send it through the mail LOL.

>

> Diane

>

> > think ds (2 y.o.) has chicken pox. for those of you whose

> > kids have had it, what (if any) did you use

> > for the itching? we haven't gotten to the itchy

> > stage yet but want to be prepared.

> >

> > dina

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I would arrange a play-date! My husband and I did WAY back when our

now 18 year old was about 2. We had friends with 2 sons and our hope

was that all 3 boys would get them at the same time and between the 4

parents, maybe someone wouldn't have to take time off work. What's

that saying about the best laid plans? One of the 2 brothers got

them, 2 weeks later our son got them then 2 weeks after that the

second of the two brothers got them! But they had them.

Good Luck.

Lori

On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Moran wrote:

>

> Hi.

> My friend just announced his daughter has chicken pox (he wrote it

> on his facebook page!). Most responses were asking him to stay far

> far away, but my first response was " when can we have a playdate " !

> Is my instinct wrong that my 3.5 year old would benefit from having

> CP now and getting the natural immunity? Any words of caution/

> advice? Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, natural immunity is best (play dates are great because you want

your child to contract it naturally and at a young age)....however,

with the scary child protective services cracking down on people, it

is best to email your friend privately. Don't post anything that

could come back to haunt you. Just my opinion.

>

>

> Hi.

> My friend just announced his daughter has chicken pox (he wrote it

on his facebook page!). Most responses were asking him to stay far

far away, but my first response was " when can we have a playdate " !

Is my instinct wrong that my 3.5 year old would benefit from having

CP now and getting the natural immunity? Any words of

caution/advice? Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, I'd ask if your kiddo could go over TODAY - or invite them to

your house if they are feeling a bit shut-in.

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Lori Krause <lori@...> wrote:

> I would arrange a play-date! My husband and I did WAY back when our

> now 18 year old was about 2. We had friends with 2 sons and our hope

> was that all 3 boys would get them at the same time and between the 4

> parents, maybe someone wouldn't have to take time off work. What's

> that saying about the best laid plans? One of the 2 brothers got

> them, 2 weeks later our son got them then 2 weeks after that the

> second of the two brothers got them! But they had them.

>

> Good Luck.

>

> Lori

>

> On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Moran wrote:

>

>>

>> Hi.

>> My friend just announced his daughter has chicken pox (he wrote it

>> on his facebook page!). Most responses were asking him to stay far

>> far away, but my first response was " when can we have a playdate " !

>> Is my instinct wrong that my 3.5 year old would benefit from having

>> CP now and getting the natural immunity? Any words of caution/

>> advice? Thanks!

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

anyone have CP in northern NJ?

>

>>

>> Hi.

>> My friend just announced his daughter has chicken pox (he wrote it

>> on his facebook page!). Most responses were asking him to stay far

>> far away, but my first response was " when can we have a playdate " !

>> Is my instinct wrong that my 3.5 year old would benefit from having

>> CP now and getting the natural immunity? Any words of caution/

>> advice? Thanks!

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

My 2 had chicken pox when they were 2 and 3 years old. I didn't take them

to the pediatrician at the time (although we were completely immersed in the

medical industry at that time, but it was before the CP vax AND before my

realization of the dangers of allopathic medicine).

I DID take pictures of them both for proof that they DID indeed have CP.

There was no disputing it, as they each had several HUNDRED pox. We did

oatmeal baths and sadly at that time Benadryl and Tylenol. I would only use

homeopathy if I had to do it all over again.

Kay

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On Behalf Of sbailey

I think my 25 month old has chicken pox. Is this something that I need

to report? We don't really have a pediatrician. Any recommendations

on treatment?

I'm a little worried, but I keep telling myself that this is not a bad

thing necessarily. Should I expect my other 4 to come down with it?

We are the black sheep amongst our neighbors and friends regarding

vaccinations, so part of me doesn't want to tell anyone and just lay

low for a few weeks (something I can easily do). However, the other

part of me wonders if that is irresponsible.

ANy recommendations?

[Guest guest]

IMO congratulations! We may be getting it soon also ()at least I hope-hubby has

shingles right this moment! Have your little one drink from same cup/straw, and

be close contact w/your 25month old...I feel it would be ok for your 4yr old to

get now also. Some announce it in their small circle of non-vax groups and have

chickenpox " parties " ..it is up to you to do this OR lay low.

Please keep us informed how it goes!

Iveta

From: sbailey <liverbaileys@...>

Subject: Chicken pox

Vaccinations

Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:57 PM

I think my 25 month old has chicken pox. Is this something that I

need

to report? We don't really have a pediatrician. Any recommendations

on treatment?

I'm a little worried, but I keep telling myself that this is not a bad

thing necessarily. Should I expect my other 4 to come down with it?

We are the black sheep amongst our neighbors and friends regarding

vaccinations, so part of me doesn't want to tell anyone and just lay

low for a few weeks (something I can easily do). However, the other

part of me wonders if that is irresponsible.

ANy recommendations?

[Guest guest]

Sheri had a FAB post here on homeopathic treatment for chickenpox-maybe you can

search-it was less than a month ago-here on this group.

btw-wanted to also add: no need to super announce to peds that you have it-esp

if you don't have a ped. and are not on a good relationship. (ours allows us not

to vax..MANY get pissy)

Iveta

From: Kay Philpot <Casper3@...>

Subject: RE: Chicken pox

Vaccinations

Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:23 PM

My 2 had chicken pox when they were 2 and 3 years old. I didn't

take them

to the pediatrician at the time (although we were completely immersed in the

medical industry at that time, but it was before the CP vax AND before my

realization of the dangers of allopathic medicine).

I DID take pictures of them both for proof that they DID indeed have CP.

There was no disputing it, as they each had several HUNDRED pox. We did

oatmeal baths and sadly at that time Benadryl and Tylenol. I would only use

homeopathy if I had to do it all over again.

Kay

-----Original Message-----

On Behalf Of sbailey

I think my 25 month old has chicken pox. Is this something that I need

to report? We don't really have a pediatrician. Any recommendations

on treatment?

I'm a little worried, but I keep telling myself that this is not a bad

thing necessarily. Should I expect my other 4 to come down with it?

We are the black sheep amongst our neighbors and friends regarding

vaccinations, so part of me doesn't want to tell anyone and just lay

low for a few weeks (something I can easily do). However, the other

part of me wonders if that is irresponsible.

ANy recommendations?

[Guest guest]

No, you don't have to report anything. I took pictures of mine, too, but the ped

never asked to see them, just took my word for it they got it. I used

homeopathic meds for the itching and had no trouble whatsoever.

How sure are you it's CP?

Winnie

Chicken pox

Vaccinations

> I think my 25 month old has chicken pox. Is this something that

> I need

> to report? We don't really have a pediatrician. Any

> recommendations

> on treatment?

>

> I'm a little worried, but I keep telling myself that this is not

> a bad

> thing necessarily. Should I expect my other 4 to come down with it?

>

> We are the black sheep amongst our neighbors and friends

> regarding

> vaccinations, so part of me doesn't want to tell anyone and just

> lay

> low for a few weeks (something I can easily do). However, the

> other

> part of me wonders if that is irresponsible.

>

> ANy recommendations?

>

>

[Guest guest]

How about fifth disease (parvovirus). My 18mo old just had this. She developed

a high

fever - 103 at it's highest, with minor cold symptoms, runny nose stuff,

lethargic, loose

BM's. Once the fever broke, she developed " the rash " . It started up by her

face, neck and

ears and over the next few days progressed down the rest of her body. Once the

rash

shows up though, the virus is considered not contagious and done. The rash

wasn't raised

or itchy though - you don't mention anything about the rash. There are plenty

of pictures

on the net of the rash if you want to check them out. I never took her to the

dr. She is

not vaxed. Her brothers had it when they were younger too, so I kind of knew

what it was

once I saw the rash.

Good luck.

Elli in NJ

>

> I think my 25 month old has chicken pox. Is this something that I need

> to report? We don't really have a pediatrician. Any recommendations

> on treatment?

>

> I'm a little worried, but I keep telling myself that this is not a bad

> thing necessarily. Should I expect my other 4 to come down with it?

>

> We are the black sheep amongst our neighbors and friends regarding

> vaccinations, so part of me doesn't want to tell anyone and just lay

> low for a few weeks (something I can easily do). However, the other

> part of me wonders if that is irresponsible.

>

> ANy recommendations?

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for your input/insight/suggestions. I tend to let my

mind worry and 2nd guess my instinct. It is nice to hear calm,

reassuring voices! I will be using the homeopathics, looking up 5ths,

and the oatmeal baths. I am excited about the chicken pox now - now I

just hope it really IS chicken pox. It looked like what I saw on the

web - but just not all over his body.

Thanks again!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

All my 6 kids have just gotten over this last month. I had 1 get it first and

then the other 5 all at once. While I'm glad they got it it was a little

challenging with them all sick especially since I'm expecting baby #7 this

summer.

 

I didn't bring them to the doctor at all. I knew what it was .  I just had to

notify the school because obviously they couldn't go for about 1 week or 2. I

did help them with baths and used homeopathy when needed. They were fine.

Although my oldest two (9 year old twins)did have it really bad.

 

 

By the way by when my youngest got it he had the mildest case and he was 21 mo.

old. So I'm sure your little one will be ok.

 

Good luck!

 

Debbie      

[Guest guest]

Check here for the state law: http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/76-15.htm

It's interesting--I don't see where they actually state the child is excluded if

there is a disease going around. And I think that " going around " is not the same

thing as an " epidemic of disease declared by the department of public health "

per the above link. Wouldn't the disease have to be confirmed at the particular

school your child goes too, anyway? Not that the law states that, either, but

you'd think there would have to be some geographical limit.

Check here, too: http://www.vaccinechoice.org/index.php/site/C11/

Winnie

chicken pox

Vaccinations

> My sister was just called by her sons elementry school here in

> Massachusetts and was infromed that chicken pox are going around

> and since her son is not vaccinated that he would have to remain

> home from May 6th through May 20 something. Until it has

> passed. Can anyone tell me her rights so that she would be able

> to leave her child in school?

>

> Thank You,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Most schools have that right by law - they think they are protecting

the child, I guess

http://www.vaccinechoice.org/index.php/site/C9/

NOTE: While religious and medical exemptions are honored in

Massachusetts, school officials retain the authority to exclude

unvaccinated students from school for a period of time following the

positive identification of a case of a vaccinated disease. Visit

<http://www.mass.gov/dph/cdc/epii/imm/school_req/vaccine_exclusion_guidelines_sc\

hool.pdf>the

MDPH site for a schedule of exclusion periods.

Sheri

listowner

At 08:28 AM 5/5/2009, you wrote:

>My sister was just called by her sons elementry school here in

>Massachusetts and was infromed that chicken pox are going around and

>since her son is not vaccinated that he would have to remain home

>from May 6th through May 20 something. Until it has passed. Can

>anyone tell me her rights so that she would be able to leave her

>child in school?

>

>Thank You,

>

>

--------------------------------------------------------

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email

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[Guest guest]

You need to check your state law. In my state they have the lequal right to keep

out during outbreaks.

I would be very curious. I would talk to the school personal. Ask how many kids

have confirmed cases and how many were vaccinated. Also do they just say

" outbreak " go home or is their a document that they give to the parent.

That document would give some insight. See if your sister will do her own

investigation.

Jim

________________________________

From: DiBacco <mkasj@...>

Vaccinations

Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:28:44 AM

Subject: chicken pox

My sister was just called by her sons elementry school here in Massachusetts and

was infromed that chicken pox are going around and since her son is not

vaccinated that he would have to remain home from May 6th through May 20

something. Until it has passed. Can anyone tell me her rights so that she would

be able to leave her child in school?

Thank You,

[Guest guest]

-Where in Massachusetts?

And is 8 months too young to expose DS for natural immunity?

Melinda C.

[Guest guest]

Anyone willing to help spread the pox towards Syracuse NY?

Re: chicken pox

-Where in Massachusetts?

And is 8 months too young to expose DS for natural immunity?

Melinda C.

[Guest guest]

hi i am in a different country all together let alone a different state, but

yeah i would throw it back as " did you give the vaccinated chilren the option of

staying away, or dont they know "

TREMORA

________________________________

From: " wharrison@... " <wharrison@...>

Vaccinations

Sent: Wednesday, 6 May, 2009 4:47:33 AM

Subject: Re: chicken pox

Check here for the state law: http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/76-15.htm

It's interesting--I don't see where they actually state the child is excluded if

there is a disease going around. And I think that " going around " is not the same

thing as an " epidemic of disease declared by the department of public health "

per the above link. Wouldn't the disease have to be confirmed at the particular

school your child goes too, anyway? Not that the law states that, either, but

you'd think there would have to be some geographical limit.

Check here, too: http://www.vaccinechoice.org/index.php/site/C11/

Winnie

chicken pox

Vaccinations

> My sister was just called by her sons elementry school here in

> Massachusetts and was infromed that chicken pox are going around

> and since her son is not vaccinated that he would have to remain

> home from May 6th through May 20 something. Until it has

> passed. Can anyone tell me her rights so that she would be able

> to leave her child in school?

>

> Thank You,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would say so..................

Sheri

At 03:36 PM 5/5/2009, you wrote:

-Where in Massachusetts?

And is 8 months too young to expose DS for natural immunity?

Melinda C.