Chicken Pox

[Guest guest]

,

with my oldest, I ended up with a prescription for itching, but with my

youngest, I did nothing but oatmeal baths. Just let it run its course.

Both of my boys are asthmatic and the cough that came with the cp didn't even

put them on their medications!!!!

Good Luck and seriously CONGRATS!!! I know how silly that sounds. Where are

you located, I might now people that need playmates LOL

[Guest guest]

I almost would bring my daughter to catch it if I didn't have a newborn at

home.

Seriously, what is the youngest you would intentionally expose your child to the

chicken pox?

Barbara

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I would not be afraid to do so from birth as I would be confident antibodies

during pregnancy and bf'ing would not permit child to get an

outbreak(probably) but at the same time offer some exposure. That is ONLY

if my child were healthy. I would not for a preemie or a newbie with a

compromised immune sysytem (like drugs during birth,etc). I would also

supplement with Vit C and A if the newbirn were to break out and I would not

consider it a full scale outbreak with immunity until after exposed later in

life and no spots. Other than that, I think 6 weeks is a good time. Don't

forget about your homeopath!

Laurie>Oh

>

> Seriously, what is the youngest you would intentionally expose your child

to the chicken pox?

>

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I exposed my daughter the first time at 12 months, she caught it at 13 1/2

months while still being breastfed.

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Re: chicken pox

I almost would bring my daughter to catch it if I didn't have a newborn at

home.

Seriously, what is the youngest you would intentionally expose your child to

the chicken pox?

Barbara

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I personally would still go with a newborn. Nursing and immunities will usually

prevent a newborn from getting anything.

That's just me ... but I'm not known for being tactful in anything I do LOL

[Guest guest]

I was 7 months old when I had chicken pox. I came through it just fine. : )

(and I have been exposed to it time and time again and never got them again...

to dispel the myth that if you have them too young, you'll get them again.)

All the best!

Kay

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I am excited today. This morning at church I heard about a family that may

have the chicken pox. So now I am wondering what extra vitamins would be

good for the girls to be on. Plus, our youngest is 7months old. Is that to

young?

[Guest guest]

, I am not sor sure on this, but I thought the reason you didn't

want someone under age one to get them was due to an immature immune system,

which could lead to complications and a more serios case. If I find anything

to back this up, I will post it. Problem is, most anything I can easily find

would be from the AAP..not the best source, I'd say..considering their

vaccinating motives!

Jami

Naperville, IL

chicken pox

> Hi All!

>

> I am excited today. This morning at church I heard about a family that

may

> have the chicken pox. So now I am wondering what extra vitamins would be

> good for the girls to be on. Plus, our youngest is 7months old. Is that

to

> young?

>

> Thank you in advance.....

>

>

>

>

> When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit

> being mistaken or cease to be honest.

>

> The world is not indifferent to intelligence, it is actively hostile to

it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 02:32 PM 02/02/2004 -0600, you wrote:

>, I am not sor sure on this, but I thought the reason you didn't

>want someone under age one to get them was due to an immature immune system,

>which could lead to complications and a more serios case. If I find anything

>to back this up, I will post it. Problem is, most anything I can easily find

>would be from the AAP..not the best source, I'd say..considering their

>vaccinating motives!

>

>Jami

>Naperville, IL

I don't think I'd expose a 7 month old intentionally. But if your other

children get it your baby is exposed.

Did you hvae chix pox and are you breastfeeding still or did you?

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I had chicken pox when I was 5 or 6. I am still breastfeeding and have just

recently started other foods.

I have a question though. I have heard of a lady that lost a baby around

20-25 weeks gestation due to organ development problems from her being

exposed to chicken pox. Would something like this happen whether you had

them naturally or not? Or is this just an excuse the doctors gave?

I don't think I'd expose a 7 month old intentionally. But if your other

children get it your baby is exposed.

Did you hvae chix pox and are you breastfeeding still or did you?

[Guest guest]

At 05:25 PM 02/02/2004 -0600, you wrote:

>I had chicken pox when I was 5 or 6. I am still breastfeeding and have just

>recently started other foods.

>

>I have a question though. I have heard of a lady that lost a baby around

>20-25 weeks gestation due to organ development problems from her being

>exposed to chicken pox. Would something like this happen whether you had

>them naturally or not? Or is this just an excuse the doctors gave?

Who knows. They like to blame a lot of things.

Never heard much about babies affected in utero by chix pox in the past.

But I am not expert in that.

Would have to research some.

If you are still breastfeeding and you had chix pox your 7 mo old would

probably not get them anyway.

But again, would have to brush up on that a bit to be sure.

>

>

>

>

>I don't think I'd expose a 7 month old intentionally. But if your other

>children get it your baby is exposed.

>Did you hvae chix pox and are you breastfeeding still or did you?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a friend whose 100% breastfed, non vaccinated baby contracted chicken

pox at about three months old. She had a mild case, more mild than her

older sisters and came through fine.

I exposed my son while I was pregnant. I did some reading and talked to my

midwife about it beforehand. What I found out was that chicken pox can

cause damage to a baby in utero, IF the mother contracts chicken pox, not if

she is just exposed. I had them and I knew it for sure, so I exposed my

son. I also read that it usually only causes that damage if the mother

contracts chicken pox during the first trimester, if she contracts them near

the end of her pregnancy, then the baby could be born with them.

Sara

Re: chicken pox

> At 05:25 PM 02/02/2004 -0600, you wrote:

> >I had chicken pox when I was 5 or 6. I am still breastfeeding and have

just

> >recently started other foods.

> >

> >I have a question though. I have heard of a lady that lost a baby around

> >20-25 weeks gestation due to organ development problems from her being

> >exposed to chicken pox. Would something like this happen whether you had

> >them naturally or not? Or is this just an excuse the doctors gave?

>

> Who knows. They like to blame a lot of things.

> Never heard much about babies affected in utero by chix pox in the past.

> But I am not expert in that.

> Would have to research some.

>

> If you are still breastfeeding and you had chix pox your 7 mo old would

> probably not get them anyway.

> But again, would have to brush up on that a bit to be sure.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >I don't think I'd expose a 7 month old intentionally. But if your other

> >children get it your baby is exposed.

> >Did you hvae chix pox and are you breastfeeding still or did you?

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Why is there such a concern about chicken pox while on MTX? Is it because MT

is an immunosuppressant or is there something else troublesome with it?

Starting to worry more about this MTX. ly, I'd love to take Caitlin off of

it.

Patty

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

It's not just MTX.Its steroids and any of the other DMARDS that cause immunosupression.The thing with chicken pox is that enough kids died from it so they made a vaccine.Most kids that do get the chicken pox do just fine but our kids are the ones that could develop the fatal complications from it.If a child does develop it or is exposed to it the rheumy needs to be notified immediately so appropriate treatment can begin.Try not to worry so much about the" what ifs" and get scared of the drugs.The disease is much worse.

Hugs

Becki and 5 systemic

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In a message dated 3/3/04 1:57:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Arthurnator@... writes:

<<

Hi Patty,

It's not just MTX.Its steroids and any of the other DMARDS that cause

immunosupression.The thing with chicken pox is that enough kids died from it

so they

made a vaccine.Most kids that do get the chicken pox do just fine but our

kids

are the ones that could develop the fatal complications from it.If a child

does develop it or is exposed to it the rheumy needs to be notified

immediately

so appropriate treatment can begin.Try not to worry so much about the " what

ifs " and get scared of the drugs.The disease is much worse.

Hugs >>

Geez, there is so much to worry about with JRA. Well, actually, there's so

much to worry about with our loved ones, but got to keep going. Makes me even

more thankful that mine had the chicken pox before (though I know you can

still get them) when they were younger. They all shared them. Caitlin had them

the worse, internally too:(

I never knew that I needed to notify the rheumy if Caitlin was exposed to

the chicken pox. Would that hold true if she had already had them and her

sister Jen had a child in the class thought to have had them (he actually had

strep/scarletina we think). Easy to see where Jen got it. Three other kids in

her

class felt sick today with different symptoms of strep.

You are right, the disease is worse than the meds. Caitlin is doing okay on

her 4 mg of Prednisone. Almost had another mix up with tapering her. We

switched to pills (now that she can swallow them and easier to taper one mg at a

time) and my husband gave her one 1mg pill thinking they were 4mg. Glad I

caught it:) So far so good.

Take care.

Patty

[Guest guest]

At 07:04 AM 04/26/2004 -0700, you wrote:

>I'm considering exposing my 5-year-old son to his friend who just broke

out with chicken pox.

>

>He has had a cold this week though and currently has a bizzarre rash on

his back that I'm going to have a doctor look at this morning. It's not

chicken-pox like. It's 2 big patches of blothcy, unraised rash on his back.

>

>So my concern with exposing him is that his immune system is already

fighting something off. His grandmother died 2 weeks ago and I think this

cold has been a response to her death.

>

>Any thoughts on whether I should just go ahead and do it even though he's

just getting over being sick now? I know there's a 2-3 week incubation

period...

>Thanks,

>Joyce

>Pittsburgh

I don't know...............I'd probably wait.

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[Guest guest]

i'd say, if cp is making the rounds, then he'll get it

or not. cp is not really the typical disease to have

'parties' for, because it is airborne. so if it's

around and he's ready for it, he'll catch it, whether

you put him next to his cp friend or not won't matter.

and if he's not ready for it, be it because his immune

system is fighting something else or simply because he

doesn't need it right now, then he won't get it.

in any case, if your little one's immune system is

showing signs of weakness, i'd definitely give max

amount of vit. c every day. the death of someone close

is always a knock on the immune system, so he can

surely do with some vit. c.

claudia

--- Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > At

07:04 AM 04/26/2004 -0700, you wrote:

> >I'm considering exposing my 5-year-old son to his

> friend who just broke

> out with chicken pox.

> >

> >He has had a cold this week though and currently

> has a bizzarre rash on

> his back that I'm going to have a doctor look at

> this morning. It's not

> chicken-pox like. It's 2 big patches of blothcy,

> unraised rash on his back.

> >

> >So my concern with exposing him is that his immune

> system is already

> fighting something off. His grandmother died 2

> weeks ago and I think this

> cold has been a response to her death.

> >

> >Any thoughts on whether I should just go ahead and

> do it even though he's

> just getting over being sick now? I know there's a

> 2-3 week incubation

> period...

> >Thanks,

> >Joyce

> >Pittsburgh

>

> I don't know...............I'd probably wait.

>

>

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At 07:03 PM 08/11/2004 -0000, you wrote:

>I believe my 19 month old son has come down with the chicken pox. He

>was exposed to them 17 days ago and was vaccinated against them 12

>days ago. I am now totally against that vaccination but I was

>wondering how I should treat them. He was running a 101 degree temp

>a few days ago for 2 days... then I noticed these red spots all over

>his stomach and chest yesterday... and today they are brighter red.

>He seems fine other than being just a little more cranky than usual.

>Should I take him to the doctor? Or should I just treat him from

>home? Does this sound like the chicken pox? Thanks in advance for

>responding.

>

>

>

>

Don't need to do anything unless he has severe or very distressing symptoms.

I certainly wouldn't go to a doctor, other than to document it.

I'll send some info

Sheri

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Hi, .

I don't have any advice on homeopathy, but wanted to give you my

experience on intentional exposure. For my family, it was a good

thing. All three of mine got it - at the time, a just turned 5 year

old, a 3.5 year old, and a younger than 1 year old. The 5 year old

is the one who got the CP vaccine, and he still got it. In our

case, the family was sick for less than a week, and while I rotated

from child to child helping them, I was so happy that we were

getting it over with. My autistic son, who does not have dyspraxia

but does have hypotonia, did not suffer worse than his siblings.

> My daughter is 4, has dyspraxia and hypotonia according to one

> neurodev. ped. and PDD according to a different neurodev. ped.

> She's in the autistic preschool.

> I just got a note home about chickenpox being mandatory.

> I'm not going to do the vaccination.

> I may have found someone in NJ to catch chicken pox from. Now that

> I've finally found someone, my husband is getting cold feet. He

> doesn't want to purposely get his 2 girls sick (ages 4 and 7).

> But I don't want them to catch this as adults, when it can be more

> serious.

> So here's my question...can a homeopath effectively treat an adult

> that catches chicken pox and has never had it as a child?

>

> Thanks!

> -

[Guest guest]

Thank you , that definitely helps with my decision.

-

> Hi, .

>

> I don't have any advice on homeopathy, but wanted to give you my

> experience on intentional exposure. For my family, it was a good

> thing. All three of mine got it - at the time, a just turned 5

year

> old, a 3.5 year old, and a younger than 1 year old. The 5 year

old

> is the one who got the CP vaccine, and he still got it. In our

> case, the family was sick for less than a week, and while I

rotated

> from child to child helping them, I was so happy that we were

> getting it over with. My autistic son, who does not have

dyspraxia

> but does have hypotonia, did not suffer worse than his siblings.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'd be more inclined to do the former, kids here get cp and noone

blinks an eye, theres no vaccine here used, it's not law, theres no

problems. its not getting sick, its staying healthy.

A

In Vaccinations , " " <hilarydowning@y...>

wrote:

> My daughter is 4, has dyspraxia and hypotonia according to one

> neurodev. ped. and PDD according to a different neurodev. ped.

> She's in the autistic preschool.

> I just got a note home about chickenpox being mandatory.

> I'm not going to do the vaccination.

> I may have found someone in NJ to catch chicken pox from. Now that

> I've finally found someone, my husband is getting cold feet. He

> doesn't want to purposely get his 2 girls sick (ages 4 and 7).

> But I don't want them to catch this as adults, when it can be more

> serious.

> So here's my question...can a homeopath effectively treat an adult

> that catches chicken pox and has never had it as a child?

>

> Thanks!

> -

[Guest guest]

Exposing your daughter to chickenpox doesn't mean she will get it

anyway. My eldest had chickenpox (well thats what the doctor said

she had) she just had a rash on her back and buttocks and the

occasional spot on her arms and legs, but wasn't sick at all not

even a slight fever! However my youngest two never got it at all.

So who knows???

Deb

> My daughter is 4, has dyspraxia and hypotonia according to one

> neurodev. ped. and PDD according to a different neurodev. ped.

> She's in the autistic preschool.

> I just got a note home about chickenpox being mandatory.

> I'm not going to do the vaccination.

> I may have found someone in NJ to catch chicken pox from. Now that

> I've finally found someone, my husband is getting cold feet. He

> doesn't want to purposely get his 2 girls sick (ages 4 and 7).

> But I don't want them to catch this as adults, when it can be more

> serious.

> So here's my question...can a homeopath effectively treat an adult

> that catches chicken pox and has never had it as a child?

>

> Thanks!

> -

[Guest guest]

I am just a regular person,but I would not force the issue. I think that you

get chicken pox when your body is ready to handle it. Its just my opinion

but I would NEVER force my child to get sick on purpose.love Janet

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--- tlucas@... wrote:

> Need advice for a friend--is there any age too young

> to expose to chicken pox? My friend has an

> oppurtunity to expose her 19 month daughter and is

> asking me for advice. My girls were over 3 when I

> did it so I don't want to lead her in the wrong

> direction.

my son got it one day after his 1st b-day. sailed

through it without any treatment iirc.

:-)

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I am just a regular person,but I would not force the issue. I think that you

get chicken pox when your body is ready to handle it. Its just my opinion

but I would NEVER force my child to get sick on purpose.love Janet

I guess the reason that many of us are exposing is to get natural immunity.

My question is not if it's okay to expose but if the age is appropriate. For

some reason I thought that if the child was too young the immunity may not take

or the danger level may be higher is all.

Jen

[Guest guest]

> I guess the reason that many of us are exposing is to get natural

immunity. My question is not if it's okay to expose but if the age is

appropriate. For some reason I thought that if the child was too young the

immunity may not take or the danger level may be higher is all.

> Jen

I don't think you need to worry about the age.

But if I were to expose a child I would want to be sure they were very

healthy and have homeopathy access/info/support so they don't suppress the

illness. Breastfed hopefully in the past or still. And not expose to the

vaccine variety of chickenpox (whatever that is)

Sheri

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