new to list

[Guest guest]

Hi and thanks for responding....

More details, my son who is 15 acts like he is 7. He has just

recently been diagnosed, he is not on meds just yet but we are

checking into that. His ocd is more that of the mental kind, seeing

things, including dead realitives. He does do the counting, and like

myself does not like horror or blood and guts movies. He has always

had a problem relating with his peers, do to the extreme inmatuaty.

I want to have the patients he needs and give him the attention he

needs.

Myself I have a great fear of contamination, thoughts of death coming

to loved ones, do not want anything(including myself) touched. Have

to have a two foot(atleast!) circle of my own space around me at all

times. Things getting moved drive me crazy. I do not take meds and

have not for fourteen years. I find I do better without them. They

helped with my headaches I was having and the depression(had just

lost my brother), but did not make me do anything different. I do

not let anyone touch the kitchen, I do not want the boys(I have 3)

using my bathroom and I do not use theirs. They do not get left

home alone, I would not be able to handle that. I did find a local

group about the same time i found egroups. But it is in the evening

and I am unable to bring myself to leave the house with everyone

still there. But egroups is great! this is helping.

Hope this is to many details....lol.....there are more.....

thanks.......ocdnetangel

[Guest guest]

HI ocdnetangel:

Thanks for sharing about your son and yourself. Have you considered

joining the OCD-L. That is a list for people with OCD and the people who

love them. I have learned so much from this list. OUr

list is a spin-off from that list.

Have you considered doing CBT with E & RP yourself? Although contamination

fears can be particularly sticky at times they do respond to a remarkable

degree to E & RP. My son, Steve, has contamination OCD as one of his major

flavors and has benefitted greatly. CBT could also help you deal with your

harm obsessions which are interfering with leaving your children at home

alone. I have a 13 and a 16 year old. If I did not leave them alone at

home sometimes they would complain. They often remind and I that it

is time for us to go out on a date and have some quality time together

<VBG>. That way they get more computer time!!

Good luck, take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

kathyh@...

At 07:19 PM 10/31/2000 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi and thanks for responding....

>More details, my son who is 15 acts like he is 7. He has just

>recently been diagnosed, he is not on meds just yet but we are

>checking into that. His ocd is more that of the mental kind, seeing

>things, including dead realitives. He does do the counting, and like

>myself does not like horror or blood and guts movies. He has always

>had a problem relating with his peers, do to the extreme inmatuaty.

>I want to have the patients he needs and give him the attention he

>needs.

>Myself I have a great fear of contamination, thoughts of death coming

>to loved ones, do not want anything(including myself) touched. Have

>to have a two foot(atleast!) circle of my own space around me at all

>times. Things getting moved drive me crazy. I do not take meds and

>have not for fourteen years. I find I do better without them. They

>helped with my headaches I was having and the depression(had just

>lost my brother), but did not make me do anything different. I do

>not let anyone touch the kitchen, I do not want the boys(I have 3)

>using my bathroom and I do not use theirs. They do not get left

>home alone, I would not be able to handle that. I did find a local

>group about the same time i found egroups. But it is in the evening

>and I am unable to bring myself to leave the house with everyone

>still there. But egroups is great! this is helping.

>Hope this is to many details....lol.....there are more.....

>

>thanks.......ocdnetangel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/16/00 1:50:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

monkeyluvingudtime@... writes:

<< I know very little about this

device and if someone could direct me to a website with more info. >>

Hi ,

Welcome to the group. Below are some links to the websites. This

information is from the various websites: Dotsie

" According to Dr. Beck, following his protocol will COMPLETELY CURE anyone of

most infectious diseases, including (but not limited to) Hepatitis, HIV/AIDS,

cancer, TB, Herpes, Chronic Fatigue, etc etc ad nauseum. He claims to have

NUMEROUS cases of NEG PCR tests of people who followed the protocols as

outlined in his paper, while those who didn't get a neg PCR test

still had a remission of ALL symptoms (these were not simply people who had a

POS HIV test, these people were DYING of AIDS). The same goes for cancer

patients (tumors gone, neg biopsies), etc.

The use of these devices IN COMBINATION is apparently what does the trick,

and the OXYGEN from the ozonated water is a major part of it. This process is

also

supposed to eliminates all parasites " .

http://healthtronics.co.nz/aboutbl.htm

http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/bbstuff.html

http://www.sightings.com/health/electrohealth.htm

http://www.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/cancerremissions.htm

http://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/Product_differences.htm

http://www.bettahealth.com.au/beck.html

http://leadingedgenews.com/bobbeck.htm

http://silver-lightning.com/beck/

http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/

http://216.60.190.54/biology/thumind.htm

http://www.explorepub.com/articles/beck/hiv_article.html

http://www.krc.com.au/blood_electrification.htm

http://www.2012.com.au/BCD.html

http://www.bioelectrifier.com/article.htm

http://healthalternative.freeyellow.com/

http://healthalternative.freeyellow.com/bobbeck.htm

For Herpes:

http://www.health-pages.com/he/

http://www.naturalhealthconsult.com/herpes.html

[Guest guest]

Greetings all,

Can anyone tell me, when sound, rife-bare plasma or other wave generating

modalities are used therapeutically, are the wave forms generally sine

waves, square waves or other? I do believe the zappers produce square

waves.

Thanks in advance for any feedback

Colin Yardley

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth!!

>I'm relatively new to this list, but I have really enjoyed looking

>around.

I'm glad you like the list and find it helpful

I decided to make bath salts, lotion, bubble bath, etc. for

>everyone for Christmas this year, and couldn't find anything until I

>signed on here.

I hope you make some wonderful gifts

I have an order in to Camden-Grey, and can't wait

>until I get it so I can start making stuff!

Yes ,, it sounds like you are so excited you could almost be a commercial

for them <g>

I am so excited, and

>everyone on this list seems so helpful and nice. Except for the

>occasional rude one.

Here is where you lost me... You joined on 11/15/00

You have been set at NO Mail,,,

There have been only 4 posts since you joined and one was a notice for an

e-card so that leaves

three posts...none which were rude by any stretch of the imagination.

so tell me what happened???

but you probably won't cuz you are set at no mail and won't see this reply <g>

I have never, ever done this before, and I hope

>it turns out well -

since you have never ever done this but yet have experienced bath salts

turning rancid is

somewhat of a mystery to me..

I've had a few scares about bath salts & oils

>turning rancid, and plastic eating up the scents, but I hope

>everything turns out ok. If anyone has any hints about these things,

>please let me know.

I don't have any hints at the moment but maybe some of the older list

member might really tell me

what this is all about.

Best!

Lucinda

Just in! Handmade all natural Incense

African Jasmine,Dragon's Blood,Tunisian Opium & more

http://glenbrookfarm.com/herbs/incen.htm

All Natural Perfumes!

http://www.glenbrookfarm.com/herbs/perfume.htm

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the welcome! When I said I had been looking around, I was

really serious! I didn't have much luck searching the archives for

stuff I needed, so I just started at Message #1 and have been working

my way through. The only " rude " posts I saw were in the very

beginning - someone has gotten this under control - it was begun

what, almost 2 years ago? I saw one message about a member opening

month-old bath salts made with oil and they smelled like dirty socks -

most of the other problems I've seen were with making soap from

scratch. And I'm not anywhere near attempting that!

---

[Guest guest]

JacQueline R-Crawford@PENTAIR

11/27/2000 09:07 AM

I pray your experience gets better.

VSL4GOD

" Beth Joyave " <mbbaskett@...> on 11/25/2000 11:12:32 PM

Please respond to egroups

egroups

cc: (bcc: JacQueline R-Crawford/PENTAIR/PENTAIR/US)

Subject: Re: New to list

Thanks for the welcome! When I said I had been looking around, I was really serious! I didn't have much luck searching the archives for stuff I needed, so I just started at Message #1 and have been working my way through. The only " rude " posts I saw were in the very beginning - someone has gotten this under control - it was begun what, almost 2 years ago? I saw one message about a member opening month-old bath salts made with oil and they smelled like dirty socks -most of the other problems I've seen were with making soap from scratch. And I'm not anywhere near attempting that! --- ~*~*Thanks for joining! Tell your friends!!!!!All natural is the way to go!!~*~*

[Guest guest]

Karma,

Can you eat cottage cheese? How about egg whites? Those are two great sources for protein. Tuna is a great choice, too.

Good luck!

Sara

[Guest guest]

Karma,

Can you eat cottage cheese? How about egg whites? Those are two great sources for protein. Tuna is a great choice, too.

Good luck!

Sara

[Guest guest]

Cottage cheese, canned tuna, protein powder mixed with oatmeal or just water.

Soy protein. Myoplex shakes, meal replacement bars. Do you eat Turkey?

FRED

Hi,

I am new to this list...............snip...........

I am also not a meat eater. I don't each chicken either, so protein sources are my biggest challenge. I do eat fish, but have only done so in the past occasionally. I sure would appreciate any suggestions on getting this meal planning under control as that is my biggest hold up. The workouts I can handle the scheduling of. I just have always been a very poor menu planner and REALLY need help with this aspect of it.

Thank you so very much in advance for any help with this.

~Karmakarma@...http://loaves-n-fishes.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

Yes, I eat dairy, just not animal flesh unless it is seafood of some sort, but I don't eat that very often.

I wanted to say you look GREAT! I used to be a public school teacher and did my student teaching in second grade. I ended up teaching the gifted program k-12 until I had my fourth child and it was costing more for day care than I was making so became a stay at home mom. I have been home schooling mine for two years.

I sure would appreciate any help with the meal planning that you can offer. I seem to be meal planning "challenged"!

Thanks,

~Karmakarma@...http://loaves-n-fishes.com

Karma,

Can you eat cottage cheese? How about egg whites? Those are two great sources for protein. Tuna is a great choice, too.

Good luck!

Sara

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the suggestions Fred. No, I don't eat Turkey. But the other suggestions I do eat. I checked the book out from the Library. I need to get back on the waiting list again to get the food suggestions and portion sizes again it looks like.

Thanks,

~Karmakarma@...http://loaves-n-fishes.com

Cottage cheese, canned tuna, protein powder mixed with oatmeal or just water.

Soy protein. Myoplex shakes, meal replacement bars. Do you eat Turkey?

FRED

[Guest guest]

Karma,

Precision Protein saved me from " egg-white burnout! " I was so sick of eating egg whites after my first 12 weeks!!! I bought Precision Protein and now can drink 6 ounces of this and get 20 grams of protein. I love the convenience of it! My other two protein " staples " are cottage cheese and canned tuna. The only downside of the tuna is that my husband accidentally bought me albacore tuna one night and now that's all that I want so it's not quite so cheap anymore ( but it sure is good!).

My hat's off to you for home-schooling. I know it's a tough thing to do the right way but the benefits are tremendous!

Sara

[Guest guest]

>

>>

>>i joined this group becuase over the last year i have

>>been looking into vaccinations...i have 4 children our

>>5th i due in july 2001..wheni had my 1st child in 1986

>>i was young and had no idea that you couldnt NOt

>>vaccinate..so i took him off to the drs like a good

>>little mummy...

I like this sentence becuz it describes me to a T..... " I had no idea you

could NOT vaccinate... "

[Guest guest]

>>

>>i joined this group becuase over the last year i have

>>been looking into vaccinations...i have 4 children our

>>5th i due in july 2001..wheni had my 1st child in 1986

>>i was young and had no idea that you couldnt NOt

>>vaccinate..so i took him off to the drs like a good

>>little mummy...my son had health problems from 9 weeks

>>old thats 1 week after his 1st vaccination..he has had

>>years of problems..epilepsy..autism....apneoa...Then

>>in 1996 i had my 2nd child..i nevr thought for 1

>>second the problems my 1st had could be vaccine

>>related..after i had my 2nd child i took him off to

>>have his vaccinations but i had an uneasy feeling but

>>i had no idea why....i got pregnant 7 weeks after

>>having our 2nd child and when she was born we

>>vaccinated her also....our and child was so EXTREMELY

>>hypo it was funny he spend most of his 1st 3 yrs of

>>life screaming and not sleeping..but our girl seemed

>>fine after our we where told our 2nd son has autism..i

>>was devasted the told me i must carry a gene that

>>causes it..but no where in my familes history is there

>>anyone with it???then when i was pregnant with our 4th

>>i read a story about a women who lost her little baby

>>and that she felt if was cause of the vaccine she was

>>given hours earlier....and that drs said it was not

>>cause of the vaccine but it was SIDs...

>>i felt uneasy about giving the kids the vaccinations

>>but thought " well GOOD parents do this " i startrd to

>>look into vaccinations and was appauled at what i

>>found...i could believe what goes into vaccines and

>>also that autism and sids and so many other diseases

>>are related to vaccines...we decided to not vaccinate

>>our 4th baby..he is now almost 9 months and seems

>>fine..so thats what lead us to these egroup message

>>boards i want to get as much info as possible..and try

>>and help other parents become more informed

This is so beautifully written, this is the story of my life, too, only i

have NO unvaxed kids. But at least mine will get no more, they tried to give

incoming 7th graders here SIX MORE SHOTS and at least i finally had the

wisdom to say NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[Guest guest]

Welcome Karma.

Cheryl C.

[Guest guest]

hi carrie, welcome to the list!! there are a lot of helpful, informative people on this list--i hope you get some answers to your concerns--ask away or check the archives if you have any specific questions/concerns...

brigit, in albany

[Guest guest]

Hi Lyn,

And welcome to the list.I live near Letchworth State Park. I have lived here

for 8 years.

I make CP and MP and a little CPHP soap.

I am here just waiting......... for spring...........lol.

Kim Fuoco

www.honeybearsoap.com

new to list

> hello there.

> just thought i would introduce myself.

> my sister and i have been soaping for about 2 years now.

> mainly CP but we just started to try HP.

> HP sure does take some getting used to!

> i live in cortland but we make soap at my sisters in moravia.

> so, hello there to all and i hope to learn a lot from all of you.

>

> lyn@

> misty morning

> soaps & sundries

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lyn, My name is Kathy, and I live in Niagara Falls, I have only been

making soap for a few months, and am having all kinds of trouble. Maybe you

will be able to give me some tips. I am seriously thinking of just moving

in with Terri, because I think I am beyond hope right now. Glad to meet

you. Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Lyn,

Welcome to the list! I think you'll like it here! I'm Terri, List Mom, but don't

call me that unless there's a problem.... I want you all to feel like this list

belong to everyone. I live in Baldwinsville (technically Syracuse according to

the post office, but we're in the B'ville school district) I make CPHP. I have

one son 6 years old and a wonderful hubby.

It's cool you and your sis are in business together...When I stated this

business she was going to join me, but backed out. I'm sort of glad she did...

we would have killed each other by now

Terri

www.thistlemeadowsoaps.com The first Central New York soap site to win the

Golden Apploo Award

and the prestigious Golden Web Award.

www..com

Central New York Soap Makers...join us for chat and fun!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/7/01 9:51:35 AM Central Standard Time,

ewesful@... writes:

> Hello~

> I am new to this list. My daughter RiverSong was born in Sept. 2000 with

> DS. It has been a real learning experience. I have 4 other great kids who

> are wonderful with her. She gets more stimulation than her therapy gives

> her.

> I will probably just be a lurker for awhile.

> Look forward to the list.

> Thanks,

> Ellie

HI Ellie

Welcome to the list and please don't lurk, we have lots of new moms and

us, with older kids love to hear the baby stories heehee

Kathy mom to Sara 9

[Guest guest]

Hello Ellie,

Welcome to the list . What a beautiful name Riversong and Rivie is so cute.

I am Carolyn Mom to Darran who is 18 and also DS.

Carolyn

New to List

> Hello~

> I am new to this list. My daughter RiverSong was born in Sept. 2000 with

> DS. It has been a real learning experience. I have 4 other great kids

who

> are wonderful with her. She gets more stimulation than her therapy gives

> her.

> I will probably just be a lurker for awhile.

> Look forward to the list.

> Thanks,

> Ellie

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

> Kcaramat Farms~ From Us to Ewe

> Spinning, Weaving & Knitting Supplies

> http://kcaramat.homestead.com

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ellie,

Welcome to the list, and congrats on the birth of RiverSong, what a beautiful

name!

Do you just sell supplies or do you raise sheep? My daughter 18/ds

raises show lambs for FFA.

Green

In a message dated 3/7/01 3:32:03 PM, writes:

From: " Kcaramat Farms " <ewesful@...>

>I am new to this list. My daughter RiverSong was born in Sept. 2000 with

>DS.

>~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

>Kcaramat Farms~ From Us to Ewe

>Spinning, Weaving & Knitting Supplies

>http://kcaramat.homestead.com

>~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

>

[Guest guest]

New to the list - I'm a 0- non secretor. I have been on basic O type (first

book) diet for about a year and I love it. Feel great, lost 30 lbs. Just got

results of life insurance blood test. As best I understand it, the results look

great. HDL 59, LDL 122, Triglycerides 77, sugars, glucose, pulse, BP etc. all

well within rates. They gave me their lowest rate.

So I'm very pleased after a year. Have not adopted non-secretor diet yet - it's

a little harsh.

Any other non-secretors out there?

--

stephen

www.xiveren.com

" It can only be attributable to human error "

-HAL

--

[Guest guest]

Hey B.,

I am just joining this list and just read your email.

I don't know what type of headache you have as I said

I am new to this. However, I have head an ongoing

headache since June of 2000 which I believe is part of

fibromyalgia. I have taken lots of drugs for it but

not the one you mentioned.

Can you tell me what the focus of this egroup is? Is

it to offer support to others and to swap info on what

works?

Looking forward to hearing from the egoup.

Wishes,

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