new to list

August 28, 1999

>

> Hi, I'm new to this list. My husband was diagnosed with Hep C 2 1/2 yrs.

ago. His Dr. feels he has had it for over 20 years. He is presently on

Interferon/Ribovirin and has been for almost 3 months. Previous treatment w/

interferon was unsuccessful.

======================

HI there,

sorry you forgot to add your name,...so I couldn't say HI to ???

Welcome to the group, My hubby has had his hepC for between 14-19yrs. with

no treatment,just recently he has had some problems with

his liver function test...so we are still waiting to hear from the

doctor...it is harder for him to take the combination therapy, because he

takes immunosuppressants for his kidney transplant that he 15yrs ago....

Has you hubby being coping with side effects from the combo therapy?????

hope it works this time...apparently with the ribovirin they are having more

success...

ine.

August 28, 1999

Hi dunbar,

you guys sound alot like us...

I was tested right away, and still have a test once a year for peace of

mind...and one of our children have been tested, the other one is still to

be done....we also practice 'safesex'.. for my and my hubbys peace of

mind...

ine.

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> From: Carol <dunbar@...>

>

> It hasn't been a lot of fun but he's been getting through it pretty good.

> We try and adjust around it as much as possible. He had a worse time on

the

> interferon alone but when he started he had been very sick.

> Milk Thistle! That was the one I was trying to remember the other day.

> Yes I was tested, within a month of my husbands diagnosis. He was really

> upset that he could have possibly passed this on to me. I tested negative.

> To be on the safe side we had our children tested also, he was afraid the

> boys could have picked up his razor and used it. But all three of our

> children also tested negative.

> We have been married for 21 years and now since his diagnosis we practice

> " safe sex " , that is at my husbands insistance - he is very careful to

> limit the possibility of someone contracting this from him.

>

> On Friday, August 27, 1999 5:25 PM, TreeSkinnr@...

> [sMTP:TreeSkinnr@...] wrote:

> > From: TreeSkinnr@...

> >

> > Welcome Dunbar. My husband, also diagnosed about 2 1/2 years ago,

> decided

> > against the interferon with ribovarin because of the side effects. Has

> it

> > been difficult for your husband? What about the interferon alone?

> >

> > Do you know about Milk Thistle? (It is an herb that cleanses the

liver.)

> My

> > husband takes six 70 mg tablets a day.

> >

> > Have you been tested? I am carrying around an order for lab work that

my

> > doctor has given me, but haven't done it yet (you know, " if you don't

> want to

> > know the answer, don't ask the question " ). At this point it would be

> like

> > closing the barn door after the horse got out, but I conduct myself as

if

> I

> > have it so that no one else catches it. Tree

> >

> > ---------------------------

September 1, 1999

is the list working?

----------

From: Tinkerbell[sMTP:lilywhite@...]

Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 8:10 AM

Hepatitis Conelist

Subject: Re: New to list

From: " Tinkerbell " <lilywhite@...>

Hi dunbar,

you guys sound alot like us...

I was tested right away, and still have a test once a year for peace of

mind...and one of our children have been tested, the other one is still to

be done....we also practice 'safesex'.. for my and my hubbys peace of

mind...

ine.

==========================================

> From: Carol <dunbar@...>

>

> It hasn't been a lot of fun but he's been getting through it pretty good.

> We try and adjust around it as much as possible. He had a worse time on

the

> interferon alone but when he started he had been very sick.

> Milk Thistle! That was the one I was trying to remember the other day.

> Yes I was tested, within a month of my husbands diagnosis. He was really

> upset that he could have possibly passed this on to me. I tested negative.

> To be on the safe side we had our children tested also, he was afraid the

> boys could have picked up his razor and used it. But all three of our

> children also tested negative.

> We have been married for 21 years and now since his diagnosis we practice

> " safe sex " , that is at my husbands insistance - he is very careful to

> limit the possibility of someone contracting this from him.

>

> On Friday, August 27, 1999 5:25 PM, TreeSkinnr@...

> [sMTP:TreeSkinnr@...] wrote:

> > From: TreeSkinnr@...

> >

> > Welcome Dunbar. My husband, also diagnosed about 2 1/2 years ago,

> decided

> > against the interferon with ribovarin because of the side effects. Has

> it

> > been difficult for your husband? What about the interferon alone?

> >

> > Do you know about Milk Thistle? (It is an herb that cleanses the

liver.)

> My

> > husband takes six 70 mg tablets a day.

> >

> > Have you been tested? I am carrying around an order for lab work that

my

> > doctor has given me, but haven't done it yet (you know, " if you don't

> want to

> > know the answer, don't ask the question " ). At this point it would be

> like

> > closing the barn door after the horse got out, but I conduct myself as

if

> I

> > have it so that no one else catches it. Tree

> >

> > ---------------------------

September 3, 1999

Yes Cherry, the list is working.

ine.

=======================

>

> is the list working?

> cherry

> ----------

October 14, 1999

Welcome to the list , Kev, , and Jamison!

Sit back, relax... and feel free to discuss anything

on your mind!

Sara (lacking Multiples, but list owner)

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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Let me introduce myself. My

name is Braz and DH

and I are the proud parents of twins that are

four years old. Jamison and

.Our little has Down Syndrome-Jamison

does not. They were born at

33 weeks gestation, and I did not find out had

Down Syndrome until two

weeks after her birth. One neonatologist would look at

her and

say & quot;Maybe & quot;, the other would say

& quot;Nah & quot;. Needless to say it

was an emotional rollercoaster. I can't imagine life

without now.

Jamison is so protective of her and understands that

is still

& quot;learning & quot; some things. He really feels

that she is his sole

responsibility at four years old. This is what

prompted my husband and I to

currently pursue adopting a baby from China! Needless

to say, we will have our

hands full, but such a wonderful thing for all of us.

We are expecting & quot;THE

phone call & quot; within a few

weeks. & nbsp;</FONT></DIV>

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& Kev Braz wrote:

>

> Hi everyone!

> Let me introduce myself. My name is Braz and DH and I are

> the proud parents of twins that are four years old. Jamison and

> .Our little has Down Syndrome-Jamison does not. They

> were born at 33 weeks gestation, and I did not find out had

> Down Syndrome until two weeks after her birth. One neonatologist would

> look at her and say " Maybe " , the other would say " Nah " . Needless to say

> it was an emotional rollercoaster. I can't imagine life without

> now. Jamison is so protective of her and understands that

> is still " learning " some things. He really feels that she is

> his sole responsibility at four years old. This is what prompted my

> husband and I to currently pursue adopting a baby from China! Needless

> to say, we will have our hands full, but such a wonderful thing for

> all of us. We are expecting " THE phone call " within a few weeks.

> That's all for now- I'm sure we'll be chatting again!

>

Hi and , welcome!

My name is Gail and I just hed boy/girl twins this past March, my baby

girl, Tara, was born with Ds, her twin was not. So, you can see we

are new to this world of Ds. But not new to parenthood as we also have a

5yr. old boy, Bobby, and 3yr. old girl, Jillian. Just wanted to extend a

welcome and looking forward to hearing your experiences. ALSO

I have cousins that are from CT who are also adopting a baby girl from

China, and is also waiting to hear WHEN they leave, they have already

been placed with their daughter, received pictures of her! They are VERY

excited!!! Are you that close to going to get your daughter?

Gail mom to Bobby-5, Jillian-3, and Tara{Ds}6months

October 14, 1999

HI and ,

Welcome to the list. I have 16 month old twins,

Ashton and Landon (DS). They were 311/2 weekers and

Landon's DS was a guessing game too at first. Keep us

posted on the upcoming new addition to your family.

Huckabee from SC

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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>Let me introduce myself. My

name is Braz and DH

and I are the proud parents of twins that are

four years old. Jamison and

.Our little has Down Syndrome-Jamison

does not. They were born at

33 weeks gestation, and I did not find out had

Down Syndrome until two

weeks after her birth. One neonatologist would look at

her and

say & quot;Maybe & quot;, the other would say

& quot;Nah & quot;. Needless to say it

was an emotional rollercoaster. I can't imagine life

without now.

Jamison is so protective of her and understands that

is still

& quot;learning & quot; some things. He really feels

that she is his sole

responsibility at four years old. This is what

prompted my husband and I to

currently pursue adopting a baby from China! Needless

to say, we will have our

hands full, but such a wonderful thing for all of us.

We are expecting & quot;THE

phone call & quot; within a few

weeks. & nbsp;</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#000000>That's all for now- I'm sure

we'll be chatting

again!</FONT></DIV>

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October 15, 1999

Welcome to ,,Jamison and !

Good Luck on the adoption.

My name is and husband name is .We have 17 month old boy/girl

twins. (DS) and Sloan.

Sloan is very watchful and helpful with Vinnie.Even at 17 months it seems that

she knows he's alittle slower and she waits for him and gives him his cup or

snack or toy.And whatever she has she points at Vinnie as to say Vinnie too.

I hope you enjoy the list as much as I have.I find the list very supportive and

helpful with any kind of information.

Again Welcome!

October 15, 1999

Welcome to the list and . My name is and my husband is

. We have boy/girl twins that will be three in Dec. My son, has

down syndrome. They were born at 27 weeks gestation and we didn't find out that

has ds until two weeks after he was born as well. The geneticist was

even called in to look at him and she recommended NOT testing him because she

didn't believe that he had/has ds. The DR's didn't think he had ds either, it

was just one nurse that kept insisting that he had it because he has web feet!!

Well, she was right; he has ds. He spent five months in the hospital, had a NG

tube for 6 months and came off of oxygen only days before discharge.

Also, a big welcome to the list; , Anita and Dr. Len Leshin.

Judi....what adorable pictures.....so cute....they would look good on the

front of a magazine cover...or maybe newsletter cover....hint hint

, mom to Nicala & , ds (2.75 yrs) and (1 year in 1 week)

October 15, 1999

Hi ,

Welcome to the list.

We have three kids, Quinn age 3 and Maggie and Sara, almost a year. Maggie

has Down syndrome and like you, we didn't have a diagnosis right away. She

was actually close to three months old when the whole thing was finally

confirmed. She has no health problems and is developing close to target.

She is crawling pretty well and even trying to pull up on things. I may be

nuts but I think it will be great when they are both walking and perhaps a

little less dependant on me.

Looking forward to hearing about your family.

P.S. for the rest of the list-The pictures of Sam and are too cute!

Too cute, I mean I feel like I want to send them out to my friends. Too

cute!

New to List

Hi everyone!

Let me introduce myself. My name is Braz and DH and I are the

proud parents of twins that are four years old. Jamison and .Our

little has Down Syndrome-Jamison does not. They were born at 33

weeks gestation, and I did not find out had Down Syndrome until two

weeks after her birth. One neonatologist would look at her and say " Maybe " ,

the other would say " Nah " . Needless to say it was an emotional

rollercoaster. I can't imagine life without now. Jamison is so

protective of her and understands that is still " learning " some

things. He really feels that she is his sole responsibility at four years

old. This is what prompted my husband and I to currently pursue adopting a

baby from China! Needless to say, we will have our hands full, but such a

wonderful thing for all of us. We are expecting " THE phone call " within a

few weeks.

That's all for now- I'm sure we'll be chatting again!

October 18, 1999

Hi and kevin,

Welcome to the list! I have boy-girl twins born at 35 wks gestatation,

Abigail and ds. They just turned 2. What is some of the criteria for

adopting from China? My DH and I had talked about it but were told that we

didn't fit the criteria (we already had children). Again welcome to the list,

I realy enjoy it and I hope you do too.

Kim Abigail and ds - 2 yrs and Mikayla - 4 yrs

October 19, 1999

Sorry , I'm a little " dense " today! Would you

like to use their picture on your newsletter? I'd

love to send you some pictures if you are! Let me

know!

Judi

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT

color=#000000 size=2>Welcome to

the list and . & nbsp; My name is

and my husband is

. & nbsp; We have boy/girl twins that will be

three in Dec. & nbsp; My son,

has down syndrome. & nbsp; They were born at

27 weeks gestation and we

didn't find out that has ds until two weeks

after he was born as

well. & nbsp; The geneticist was even called in to

look at him and she

recommended NOT testing him because she didn't

believe that he had/has

ds. & nbsp; The DR's didn't think he had ds either,

it was just one nurse that

kept insisting that he had it because he has web

feet!! & nbsp; Well, she was

right; he has ds. & nbsp; He spent five months in

the hospital, had a NG tube

for 6 months and came off of oxygen only days

before discharge.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#000000

size=2></FONT> & nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Also, a big welcome to the list;

, Anita and Dr. Len

Leshin.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Judi....what adorable

pictures.....so cute....they would

look good on the front of a magazine cover...or

maybe newsletter

cover....hint hint </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>, mom to

Nicala & amp; , ds (2.75

yrs) and (1 year in 1 week)</FONT></DIV>

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>Sorry , I'm a little " dense " today! Would you

>like to use their picture on your newsletter? I'd

>love to send you some pictures if you are! Let me

>know!

Yes, Judi I would like to use a picture of your boys on one of our issues.

It probably wouldn't be for a couple more issue tho because the next one

(maybe two) issues have already been promised to others. I will send you my

address privately.

Here is what our December issue looks like;

, mom to Nicala & , ds (2.75yrs) and (1yr in 3 days)

October 19, 1999

I get so many newsletters I had to re-check to see if

I get yours ... but I don't. How can I get one??

Sara

--- <lauranra@...> wrote:

>

> >Sorry , I'm a little " dense " today! Would you

> >like to use their picture on your newsletter? I'd

> >love to send you some pictures if you are! Let me

> >know!

>

> Yes, Judi I would like to use a picture of your boys

> on one of our issues.

> It probably wouldn't be for a couple more issue tho

> because the next one

> (maybe two) issues have already been promised to

> others. I will send you my

> address privately.

>

> Here is what our December issue looks like;

> , mom to Nicala & , ds (2.75yrs) and

> (1yr in 3 days)

>

> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=cover.jpg

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October 20, 1999

I'd be glad to send you some if I can get a copy

and/or get on your mailing list too!

Judi

--- <lauranra@...> wrote:

>

> >Sorry , I'm a little " dense " today! Would you

> >like to use their picture on your newsletter? I'd

> >love to send you some pictures if you are! Let me

> >know!

>

> Yes, Judi I would like to use a picture of your boys

> on one of our issues.

> It probably wouldn't be for a couple more issue tho

> because the next one

> (maybe two) issues have already been promised to

> others. I will send you my

> address privately.

>

> Here is what our December issue looks like;

> , mom to Nicala & , ds (2.75yrs) and

> (1yr in 3 days)

>

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December 9, 1999

Welcome!

There is much valuable discussion on specific items in the archives

(available at ).

I maintain a web site for the 'brain fog' -- mainly simplified explanations

with links to the scientific papers (for MDs etc)

You may wish to peek at http://www.folkarts.com/idef/treatment.htm and just

surf around to see what you may not be aware of... I have my own spin (I'm

over 95% of normal by following what seemed to be the 'best odds'

approaches... recovery started at 9 months after onset (2nd round of CFS for

me) -- so deep systemic damage had not cascaded... -- I was lucky, and know

it).

This week, my wife (10 yrs, gradual onset) has finally gotten a CFS

diagnosis and although only slightly improved from starting the supplements,

change of diet, change of behavior [ 10 sec of rowing machine, 60 sec of

rest] and Hale's " Breathing Free " (she will start antibiotics very soon ---

the prospect of " die-off " over Christmas is still being debated....) --

.... the most exciting stuff is Cheney's O2 treatments ... as it improves

brain fog!!! see http://www.folkarts.com/idef/cheney_02.htm : and there are

LOTS of ways of approaching this issue...

Ken

December 12, 1999

In a message dated 12/11/99 5:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

onelist writes:

> The

> practitioner (mine is a retired psychiatrist) uses muscle testing to see if

> you are sensitive to different substances--i.e. the practitioner pushes on

> your extended arm while you hold the substance in your other hand,

> sometimes the substance itself, sometimes a vial with the substance's

> " energy pattern. "

This is the biggest bunch of crap that the DOs and 'holistic' docs are doing

now.

Do not be fooled by this. 's message goes on to say that she cured her

dog using this same technique. Now that's an hysterical thought. Did the

dog

hold the food in his mouth while you pushed on his extended paw? Please, if

you have blood tests done for food allergies that is one thing, but don't

suggest

that people waste money on ridiculous testing. Sorry to be so blunt, but I

wasted

$190 on Dr. Cordas in DFW, and when he tried that 'muscle' testing on me, I

walked out of his office.

Mike

December 12, 1999

At 10:11 PM 12/12/99 EST, you wrote:

>From: MCamp10139@...

>

>In a message dated 12/11/99 5:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>onelist writes:

>

>> The

>> practitioner (mine is a retired psychiatrist) uses muscle testing to

see if

>> you are sensitive to different substances--i.e. the practitioner pushes on

>> your extended arm while you hold the substance in your other hand,

>> sometimes the substance itself, sometimes a vial with the substance's

>> " energy pattern. "

>

>This is the biggest bunch of crap that the DOs and 'holistic' docs are doing

>now.

>Do not be fooled by this. Dr. Cordas in DFW, and when he tried that

'muscle' testing on me, I walked out of his office.

>

>Mike,

It sounds like you never gave it try. I find this to work well and have

confirmed its reliability repeatedly.

>

>>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

December 15, 1999

Welcome to the list. Your questions and comments are welcomed. This is a great

list with some very helpful PWC.

Phil

Crane wrote:

> From: " Crane " <ccrane@...>

>

> Hi to all!

> I'm new to the group and want to introduce myself. I have been diagnosed for

> 4 years, but with slow onset have been sick for at least 7. I see an md who

> also uses some alternative therapies (not that alternative in this

> community, but alternative among md's). I get a myers cocktail iv every

> week, sometimes w/ glutathione. I hope to be starting dioxychlor treatment

> soon to get rid of chlamydia p., but I have to improve my antioxidant status

> first. In addition to the typical supplements, antidepressants and

> sleep-helpers, I also use 5000mcg hydroxycobalamin every day or every other

> day depending on how I feel. Without the B12 I have tremors. And, I take

> Trental to improve my blood viscosity and the health of my rbc's. This drug

> has really helped me, though I don't know of other people who use it for

> CFIDS. Apparently it is used more in Europe. I heard once Cheney recommends

> it occasionally, or used to recommend it, or something like that. I wonder

> what his experience was? Obviously not that great. Anyway, it has really

> helped me alot. I have been using 2 packets a day of Imuplus, but I'm

> thinking now that might be too much for me. I also am getting NAET

> treatments for food allergies. On a good day I still need a nap, some

> protection from overstimulation, not too much time standing up, and I might

> feel good for an hour or two. Most of the time these days I don't feel

> horrible like I used to. I do get out of the house on all but my very worst

> days. I am lucky enough to be able to afford a full-time housekeeper. I

> would be terribly sick without her. There's no way I could work. I am

> married, have three kids 9-14, and two dogs. Before getting sick I was

> writing a novel. Now I struggle to keep my journal and to read what I used

> to consider easy books. I really miss my imagination and that sense of

> surprising myself with just the right word.

>

> I hope this is the kind of introduction you're looking for. I look forward

> to learning from you all.

>

> in NC

>

> ***It's like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you get tired. You

> quit when the gorilla gets tired.***

>

> > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

December 25, 1999

Hello Ursula,

I have a 21 month old daughter, Alice, we live in UK, near London. And..we

hope you have a happy Christmas and a peaceful new year.

Best Wishes

Ruth

December 27, 1999

In a message dated 12/27/99 3:05:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,

medbill@... writes:

<<

I do have one question - someone made mention to the fact that there is

a link between sugar intake and an increase in the onset of Polio - are

there any good links for info on that or good books?

vicky rose >>

Welcome to the list. would have it at his site.

http://whale.to/vaccines.html

Sara

December 28, 1999

new to list

> From: <medbill@...>

>

> Hello everyone. I thought I should introduce myself. I have been

> lurking for about 1-2 weeks now and really enjoy this list. I am a SAHM

> to my 1 year old (as of 12/15) son and work 3 hours per week at JC

> Penney in town. I currently live in Fargo, ND (and no I have never seen

> the movie). DH and I have been married for 2 1/2 years. We have

> decided to not vaccinate on any account for any and all children the

> Lord should bless us with. We have suffered much persecution from

> family - especially my SIL who is a nurse ---to whom I think the

> schooling did more harm than good !! I am really enjoying

> everything I am learning.

>

> I do have one question - someone made mention to the fact that there is

> a link between sugar intake and an increase in the onset of Polio - are

> there any good links for info on that or good books?

http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/polio.html

>

> vicky rose

>

> >

December 28, 1999

Vicky,

Barry Mesh a chapter about the work of Dr. Sandler. This excerpt just

explains the theoretical mechanism of sugar regarding " polio " (really

" paralysis " ):

In 1948, Dr. Bejamin P. Sandler, a medical doctor and nutrition

expert at the Oteen Veteran's Hospital, N.C., discovered a direct

relationship between refined sugar (and starch) products and the

incidence of polio. Dr. Sandler observed the fact that polio seemed to

strike with its greatest intensity in hot weather. In hot weather there

is a great increase of the use of ice cream, cola drinks, artificially

sweetened drinks, ices, etc. This led Sandler to the conclusion there

might be a relationship between the excessive use of sugar and refined

foods to the higher incidence of polio (which is identical to other

nutritional diseases such as scurvy, beri-beri, pellagra, acidosis, etc.)

He undertook the task diligently and compiled records from all over the

world demonstrating a direct relationship between the high incidence of

polio to the high per capita consumption of sugar.

Dr. Sandler's researches showed specifically that the modern

tendency to consume excessive amounts of cola and fountain drinks and

frozen foods in hot weather, loaded with refined sugar, are responsible

for the origin of polio. The phosphoric acid in soda absorbs the

phosphorus and sulfates in the foods we eat before they metabolize. The

nerves are thus deprived of the necessary phosphoros and sulfate -and

certan nerve trunks cease to function. The victim loses the use of one

of more limbs.

There is evidence to show that in all cases of polio there is a

deficiency in blood calcium. So what lowers blood calcium? Acid-forming

foods (practically everything except raw fruits and vegetables) and

refined sugar in any form - ice cream, cola drinks, cakes and pies,

ketchup, white flour, malteds, ices, etc., all steal calcium from the

body. Refined sugar is converted (ferments/decomposes) into acohol

almost immediately after it is taken ito the body and does the same

damage that alcohol does. It dehydrates the cells and leeches the

calcium from the nerves, muscles, bones, teeth, and all other tissues

that are supplied with calcium. Refined sugar is absorbed into the blood

almost immediately, causing the blood sugar level to rise, thus producing

more and more carbonic acid. Carbonic acid has a chemical affinity

(attraction) for minerals, especially calcium, which it dissolves from

the teeth and bony structures. The bloodstream, acidified by sugar

consumption, has a corrosive action on the minerals of the teeth, just as

acids eat away marble. It is calcium particularly which is dissolved and

a serious calcium deficiency is a forerunner to polio.

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On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:11:11 EST Mum2nini@... writes:

>From: Mum2nini@...

>

>In a message dated 12/27/99 3:05:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,

>medbill@... writes:

>

><<

>

> I do have one question - someone made mention to the fact that there

>is

> a link between sugar intake and an increase in the onset of Polio -

>are

> there any good links for info on that or good books?

>

> vicky rose >>

>Welcome to the list. would have it at his site.

>http://whale.to/vaccines.html

>

>Sara

>

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December 29, 1999

I first read about the sugar/polio link in a book by Walene called

" Immunizations the Reality Behind the Myth " .

The info is very similar to what posted recently. (almost word for

word)

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