group

August 19, 2008

TRISHA

SORRY YOU COULDN'T GET YOUR NERVE BLOCK TODAY. HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HAVE THE STIM IN

THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

SUE C

MODERATOR

It has gotten quiet in here lately I hope

everyone oik. can everyone

please check in Mike group owner

August 19, 2008

---Hay Mike and Everyone

Oh iM here,, not doing real good tho.. I just got home from a

appoinment with my PM Dr. It all started last week,, I helped my

neice with a garage sale on Thurs and Fri from 9:30 - 2,, well Sat

and Sunday the pain was so bad that I was back in my

wheelchair...not good, could not walk,,, pain pain pain,,,so

yesterday (Monday) I called my PM dr,, got me in this evening... He

says my hubby is killing me thru my nerves,,, he says Im a nearvous

wreck,, he says I need to get away and do it now,,,, well thats so

much easier ssaid then done,, I am on SSD,, have scs can not work,,,

how can I live on $850. a month???? it can be done,,, yes,, but my

car pymt is $350.... hummmmmmmmmmm,,,Ok,,, my hubby is a acholeolic

and had a bad gambling problem,,, July 1st he got off work 4 hours

early,,, didnt come home ,but went to the moose and spent his whole

check on pull tickets,,, so there was $650... then he wrote over

$600 more in checks,,, so then there was another $600 in checks that

were out that bounced,,,, OK some how I am to blame that we are

getting behind and we have no money to do nothing,,,, but its all my

fault,, I smoke to much,, i need gas to take him to and gfrom work

(his truck needs new tires,,, no money) but it all ends up being my

fault... I dont know what to do,,, He asked me what the Dr said,, I

told him he says your killing me... what else can I say???,,, so now

I need to figure out what to do... ok Im done venting and I checked

in lol... thanks ya all,,, you are all such wonderful people,, oh

yeah !!! welcome home Mike,,, glad to hear you and your family had a

wonderful vacation,,,

Get well soon Kathy Sweet,,, Im praying hard for ya.... thanks

everyone

soft hugs

>

> On Aug 19, 2008, at 11:55 AM, " mike2boys " <mike2boys@...> wrote:

>

> It has gotten quiet in here lately I hope everyone oik. can

everyone

> please check in Mike group owner

>

August 19, 2008

>

> hi mike ! sorry not been in touch for a few days, i am praying like

a

> madman for kathy and i hope it will be nothing more than a memory

for

> her in a very short while, i have had a few problems of my own of a

> personal nature, my relationship which i thought was as solid as a

rock

> turns out to be a little shakey and even though im trying my best

to

> take it in my stride, it hurts a little and brings up memories of

the

> past when i found out my dear wife and freind had ben sleeping

together

> for a year behind my back, its not as bad as that but it still

hurts to

> think that the rock you lean on has started to move down the hill

on

> its foundations.

> my very best to everyone and will be back on track soon

>

> karl xx

>

> > It has gotten quiet in here lately I hope everyone oik. can

everyone

> > please check in Mike group owner

> >

>

August 19, 2008

LISA

I FEEL SO BAD THAT YOU'RE HAVING SUCH A ROUGH TIME. YOUR DR IS RIGHT THAT NERVES

AND STRESS WILL KILL YOU. STRESS WILL ALSO INCREASE YOUR PAIN LEVEL. OVERDOING

IT WILL ALSO INCREASE YOUR PAIN LEVEL. WHEN YOU TOLD YOUR HUSBAND WHAT THE DR.

SAID, DID HE HAVE ANY RESPONSE?

YOUR DR WAS TELLING YOU THAT YOU HAD TO PUT YOURSELF FIRST. HE IS RIGHT. YOU

HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST, BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF ANYONE ELSE. BY

BLAMING YOU, HE IS SHIFTING THE BLAME FROM HIMSELF, HE IS NOT TAKING

RESPONSIBILTY FOR HIS ACTIONS. IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. YOU

ASKED WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. HAVE YOU TRIED THERAPY? HAS YOUR HUSBAND TRIED

THERAPY - FOR HIS GAMBILNG AND DRINKING?

AS FOR YOU VENTING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. I'M HERE IF YOU WANT TO TALK,

VENT, OR NEED A SHOULDER TO CRY ON

SUE C

MODERATOR

>

> It has gotten quiet in here lately I hope everyone oik. can

everyone

> please check in Mike group owner

>

August 19, 2008

Hi All, I'm devastated to see so many reports of bad and sad news

today. I pray that we all find relief from our physical, and

spiritual, woes, as quickly as God can help us to such relief...

Jaron (The group " rabbi " )

> >

> > It has gotten quiet in here lately I hope everyone oik. can

> everyone

> > please check in Mike group owner

> >

August 19, 2008

KARL

THIS DOESN'T SOUND STRANGE AT ALL. DON'T TRY TO RATIONALIZE IT BECAUSE IT WILL

NEVER MAKE SENSE. INSTEAD OF YELLING, TRY HITTING A PILLOW. SLOWLY YOUR HEART

WILL START TO MEND. WHEN YOU ARE READY TO TALK, WE'LL BE READY TO LISTEN.

I'M HERE IF YOU WANT TO TALK, VENT OF NEED A SHOULDER TO CRY ON.

SUE C

MODERATOR

From: karl4177 <karloutram@...>

Subject: Re: group

Stimulator

Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:49 AM

>

> hi mike ! sorry not been in touch for a few days, i am praying like

a

> madman for kathy and i hope it will be nothing more than a memory

for

> her in a very short while, i have had a few problems of my own of a

> personal nature, my relationship which i thought was as solid as a

rock

> turns out to be a little shakey and even though im trying my best

to

> take it in my stride, it hurts a little and brings up memories of

the

> past when i found out my dear wife and freind had ben sleeping

together

> for a year behind my back, its not as bad as that but it still

hurts to

> think that the rock you lean on has started to move down the hill

on

> its foundations.

> my very best to everyone and will be back on track soon

>

> karl xx

>

> > It has gotten quiet in here lately I hope everyone oik. can

everyone

> > please check in Mike group owner

> >

>

August 20, 2008

> >

> > hi mike ! sorry not been in touch for a few days, i am praying

like

> a

> > madman for kathy and i hope it will be nothing more than a memory

> for

> > her in a very short while, i have had a few problems of my own of

a

> > personal nature, my relationship which i thought was as solid as

a

> rock

> > turns out to be a little shakey and even though im trying my best

> to

> > take it in my stride, it hurts a little and brings up memories of

> the

> > past when i found out my dear wife and freind had ben sleeping

> together

> > for a year behind my back, its not as bad as that but it still

> hurts to

> > think that the rock you lean on has started to move down the hill

> on

> > its foundations.

> > my very best to everyone and will be back on track soon

> >

> > karl xx

> >

> > > It has gotten quiet in here lately I hope everyone oik. can

> everyone

> > > please check in Mike group owner

> > >

> >

August 20, 2008

hey !!

Oh my dear, !

My heart is breaking for you!!

I am so sorry that you are going through such a shitty time...no other words

seemed appropriate.

In my first marriage, my dr told me that same thing...he was not an

alcoholic, or a gambler, he was just a bastard who constantly emotionally

abused me.

If I am not mistaken, isn't part of the stickiness of alcoholics and

gamblers to blame everyone else but themselves? ....you ARE NOT AT FAULT

HERE!!!!!!! You did NOTHING wrong, sweetheart.

If I can do ANYTHING for you...please call me. Email me @ _Kgavi@..._

(mailto:Kgavi@...) and I will give you my cell number.

I will keep you in my prayers and special thoughts.

I give you all my love, support and honor,

love,

Kathy G.

Co-Owner

**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel

deal here.

(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

August 20, 2008

Karl do you sew if so make a rip pillow it don't have to resemble any

thing mines just a bunch of lill circles that velcro on to a bigger one

I

have rsd wrote in permanent marker wrote on it when your having a bad day

rip the lill ones off and put them back on keep it up till your frustration

eases up its what I do on bad days and you are taking things out on your

condition not a single living breathing thing

**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel

deal here.

(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

August 20, 2008

KARL

YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO FEEL THE WAY YOU DO. NO HUMAN BEING HAS THE RIGHT TO

LIFT A HAND TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THE ANGER OR IT WILL

CONSUME YOU. ANGER EATS AWAY AT US AND DESTROYS US FROM THE INSIDE OUT.

THANK YOU FOR TRUSTING ME AND THE GROUP ENOUGH TO REVEAL SUCH A PERSONAL MATTER

.. THE THING IS YOU MUST RID YOURSELF OF THIS AWFUL DEMON. I KNOW HOW MUCH EASIER

SAID THAN DONE THIS IS. I KNOW HOW MUCH MORE OF A STIGMA IT IS FOR A MAN TO

ADMIT THAN A WOMAN. YOU ARE SUCH A SWEET, KIND, MAN I DON'T WANT THIS TO DESTROY

YOU. HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANY ONE ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL ABOUT THIS WHO CAN HELP

YOU DEAL WITH THIS. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ME PRIVATELY, AND IT WON'T BE POSTED

IN GROUP, YOU CAN CONTACT ME AT SUEANDTEDC@... DO NEED TO VENT ANOTHER

WAY IS TO KEEP A JOURNAL WRITING DOWNYOUR FEEINGS HELPS, ANOTHER WAY IS TO WRITE

HER A LETTER TELLING HER EVERYTHING YOU THINK ANDFEEL BUT NOT MAILING IT.

YOU'LL BE IN MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS, AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE GROUP. HOPE

THIS HELPS YOU.

I AM HERE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TALK , VENT, OR NEEDS A SHOULDER TO CRY ON.

IF YOU DON'T WANT IT POSTED IN GROUP, YOU CAN SEND IT TO THE ABOVE ADDRESS OR

BUTTERFLIESRFREE309@...

LOVE

SUE C

MODERATOR

LOVE

SUE C

MODERATOR

LOVE

SUE C

MODERATOR

From: karl4177 <karloutram@...>

Subject: Re: group

Stimulator

Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:41 PM

> >

> > hi mike ! sorry not been in touch for a few days, i am praying

like

> a

> > madman for kathy and i hope it will be nothing more than a memory

> for

> > her in a very short while, i have had a few problems of my own of

a

> > personal nature, my relationship which i thought was as solid as

a

> rock

> > turns out to be a little shakey and even though im trying my best

> to

> > take it in my stride, it hurts a little and brings up memories of

> the

> > past when i found out my dear wife and freind had ben sleeping

> together

> > for a year behind my back, its not as bad as that but it still

> hurts to

> > think that the rock you lean on has started to move down the hill

> on

> > its foundations.

> > my very best to everyone and will be back on track soon

> >

> > karl xx

> >

> > > It has gotten quiet in here lately I hope everyone oik. can

> everyone

> > > please check in Mike group owner

> > >

> >

August 20, 2008

---HI everyone

this is such a wonderful group of people,,, everyone has stood up

for me,,, this is so awesome to know people like you all,,,

Karl,,, im so sorry for all that you are going thru right now,,, no

one should ever lay a hand or anything onto another,,, My husband

doesnt hurt me that way,, only with his words,, I have always

said,,, that the saying,,, sticks and stones may hurt my bones,but

words can never hurt me,,, this is so wrong,,, words do hurt,, they

last in our minds forever,,,,I have also been beat by my first

husband,,,, I didnt put up with it either,,,

But anyways,,, I will be gettng out soon,, im gonna go stay with

my niece,, she needs child care help,, and I need a roof,,, so I

think it will work,, I only need a place till I can find my own place

Sue ,,thanks so much for your encourageing words,, I need it right

now,,,

Last night Greg asked me what the Dr said,, I told him that your

killing me,, I didnt say anything else,, turned and put on my night

gown,, well he rolled over in the bed,,, never said anything,, well

this morning he cted like nothing was ever said,, Im just so done,,

I have been for a long time,, guess I just need the push out the

door...

> LISA

> >

> > I FEEL SO BAD THAT YOU'RE HAVING SUCH A ROUGH TIME. YOUR DR IS

RIGHT

> THAT NERVES AND STRESS WILL KILL YOU. STRESS WILL ALSO INCREASE

YOUR

> PAIN LEVEL. OVERDOING IT WILL ALSO INCREASE YOUR PAIN LEVEL. WHEN

YOU

> TOLD YOUR HUSBAND WHAT THE DR. SAID, DID HE HAVE ANY RESPONSE?

> >

> > YOUR DR WAS TELLING YOU THAT YOU HAD TO PUT YOURSELF FIRST. HE IS

> RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST, BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE

> CARE OF ANYONE ELSE. BY BLAMING YOU, HE IS SHIFTING THE BLAME FROM

> HIMSELF, HE IS NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILTY FOR HIS ACTIONS. IT'S

> ALWAYS EASIER TO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. YOU ASKED WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.

> HAVE YOU TRIED THERAPY? HAS YOUR HUSBAND TRIED THERAPY - FOR HIS

> GAMBILNG AND DRINKING?

> >

August 20, 2008

LISA

THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WIN-WIN SITUATION. YOUR NIECE NEEDS HELP WITH HER CHILDREN

AND YOU NEED A PLACE TO STAY. YOU ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO. SO MANY

PEOPLE STAY IN AN UNHEALTHY SITUATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO WHERE TO GO. YOU

HAVE EMPOWERED YOURSELF. YOU ARE STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF. YOU ARE PUTTING

YOURSELF FIRST. ABUSE IS ABUSE - AND YOU HAVE SUFFERED BOTH PHYSICAL AND

EMOTIONAL ABUSE. NOONE DESERVES EITHER TREATMENT. I AM HERE FOR YOU.

I'M HERE FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO TALIK, VENT, OR NEEDS OR SHOULDER TO CRY ON.

SUE C

MODERATOR

From: <bluejeans412003@...>

Subject: Re: group

Stimulator

Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:03 PM

---HI everyone

this is such a wonderful group of people,,, everyone has stood up

for me,,, this is so awesome to know people like you all,,,

Karl,,, im so sorry for all that you are going thru right now,,, no

one should ever lay a hand or anything onto another,,, My husband

doesnt hurt me that way,, only with his words,, I have always

said,,, that the saying,,, sticks and stones may hurt my bones,but

words can never hurt me,,, this is so wrong,,, words do hurt,, they

last in our minds forever,,,,I have also been beat by my first

husband,,,, I didnt put up with it either,,,

But anyways,,, I will be gettng out soon,, im gonna go stay with

my niece,, she needs child care help,, and I need a roof,,, so I

think it will work,, I only need a place till I can find my own place

Sue ,,thanks so much for your encourageing words,, I need it right

now,,,

Last night Greg asked me what the Dr said,, I told him that your

killing me,, I didnt say anything else,, turned and put on my night

gown,, well he rolled over in the bed,,, never said anything,, well

this morning he cted like nothing was ever said,, Im just so done,,

I have been for a long time,, guess I just need the push out the

door...

> LISA

> >

> > I FEEL SO BAD THAT YOU'RE HAVING SUCH A ROUGH TIME. YOUR DR IS

RIGHT

> THAT NERVES AND STRESS WILL KILL YOU. STRESS WILL ALSO INCREASE

YOUR

> PAIN LEVEL. OVERDOING IT WILL ALSO INCREASE YOUR PAIN LEVEL. WHEN

YOU

> TOLD YOUR HUSBAND WHAT THE DR. SAID, DID HE HAVE ANY RESPONSE?

> >

> > YOUR DR WAS TELLING YOU THAT YOU HAD TO PUT YOURSELF FIRST. HE IS

> RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST, BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE

> CARE OF ANYONE ELSE. BY BLAMING YOU, HE IS SHIFTING THE BLAME FROM

> HIMSELF, HE IS NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILTY FOR HIS ACTIONS. IT'S

> ALWAYS EASIER TO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE. YOU ASKED WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.

> HAVE YOU TRIED THERAPY? HAS YOUR HUSBAND TRIED THERAPY - FOR HIS

> GAMBILNG AND DRINKING?

> >

August 20, 2008

---Thank you Sue In Stimulator , Corn

<butterfliesrfree309@...> wrote:

>

> LISA

>

> THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WIN-WIN SITUATION. YOUR NIECE NEEDS HELP WITH

HER CHILDREN AND YOU NEED A PLACE TO STAY. YOU ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE

A PLACE TO GO. SO MANY PEOPLE STAY IN AN UNHEALTHY SITUATION

BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO WHERE TO GO. YOU HAVE EMPOWERED YOURSELF. YOU

ARE STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF. YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF FIRST. ABUSE

IS ABUSE - AND YOU HAVE SUFFERED BOTH PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE.

NOONE DESERVES EITHER TREATMENT. I AM HERE FOR YOU.

>

> I'M HERE FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO TALIK, VENT, OR NEEDS OR SHOULDER

TO CRY ON.

>

> SUE C

> MODERATOR

>

> ---

August 20, 2008

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME, LISA

>

> LISA

>

> THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WIN-WIN SITUATION. YOUR NIECE NEEDS HELP WITH

HER CHILDREN AND YOU NEED A PLACE TO STAY. YOU ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE

A PLACE TO GO. SO MANY PEOPLE STAY IN AN UNHEALTHY SITUATION

BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO WHERE TO GO. YOU HAVE EMPOWERED YOURSELF. YOU

ARE STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF. YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF FIRST. ABUSE

IS ABUSE - AND YOU HAVE SUFFERED BOTH PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE.

NOONE DESERVES EITHER TREATMENT. I AM HERE FOR YOU.

>

> I'M HERE FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO TALIK, VENT, OR NEEDS OR SHOULDER

TO CRY ON.

>

> SUE C

> MODERATOR

>

> ---

August 20, 2008

HI, lisa!!

You should be so very proud of yourself!! it is not easy at all to go

through the crap that you are going through.....verbal and emotional abuse, is

just as bad as physical abuse. Words cut like knives in our skin when they are

so harsh.

you should be proud of yourself since you are sticking up for yourself.

Wehnn I did this with my first husband, the RSD didn't go away, of course, but

I

was able to handle the pain so much better...since I wasn't being put down

all the time.

Please know I am here for you, .

I have been talking to you for a while...and have come to know a few things

about you. You are so caring and helpful to others. You have a great sense

of humor and you bring laughter to others when they are in pain. You are

just a real sweet person who doesn't need anymore pain than the chronic pain

you

already are enduring.

Perhaps therapy might help...but he doesn't seem to me to be the type of

person to admit that he has the problem. If not...you are right, honey, you

are

so done and you need that push out the door....just take one foot at a time

and then don't look back with anything other pride in yourself.

By no means am I making light of this and saying it is to easy to do. I was

terrified when my husband and I divorced. I was not as brave as you

though...he threw me out...so he could live a " normal life " without RSD.

I will keep you in my prayers tonight and every night, .

gentle hugs to you, honey!

Love,

Kathy G.

co_owner

**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel

deal here.

(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

August 20, 2008

Hey !!

What a great idea!

You made a problem and a situation into a great win all solution!!

I am so proud of the fact that you are thinking of you...and not what he

will think....I am so proud of you for sticking up for yourself and taking care

of you.

I am so glad to hear that you are doing this, as pain increases with

stress...as I am sure you know, hon.

As I have said in my other posts to you....verbal and mental abuse hurts as

bad as a punch.

You are so brave and I am so proud of you!!!!

I am here for you ...and for any other member...any time.

Gentle Hugs,

Kathy G.

Co-owner

**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel

deal here.

(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

September 1, 2008

Checking in as requested .....sorry I have not been online too much

in the last few weeks.....been working all kinds of crazy hours at

work for the last 5 weeks now because someone has been out on family

leave and I have had a lot of dr's appointments. I finally talked my

neurosurgeon into replacing my lead for me and have had to see him

several times plus a CTscan, lab work, one more pre-op appointment

tomorrow and finally my surgery on Friday! Can't tell you all how

much I am looking forward to this week going by fast! Not much else

on this front.....Hope everyone down in Gustav's path stay safe!!!!!!!

C.

September 1, 2008

I'm still here....been busy with getting into routines with school for

kids. Also there has been lots of activity around here lately...hubby

out of town, helping out friends, visiting family, and the list goes

on n on.

Deanna

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2008, at 12:42 AM, " mike2boys " <mike2boys@...> wrote:

> It has gotten alittle quiet here lately, how is everyone? can everyone

> checkin? also if your in LA hurricanne patch Please find safe place to

> go. If at all possible can everyone checkin. If anyone has any

> questions it is good time to ask? Mike group owner

>

September 1, 2008

--Hi

Well Im checking in... sorry for being so quite lately... after last

week, i thought it would be best. Im doing ok,, im still here with

Greg, things havnt been to bad lately. I have put my trip to Canada

off for a few weeks,, my sister Margie isnt doing to good,, She has a

brain tumor,, not sure if they are going to do surgey this week or

not,, she goes in the hospital tomarrow morning for a couple days of

testing.. so hopefuly will have some news this week,, I really dont

think she is going to make it much longer without the surgery,but im

scaredd of what can happen when they open up cancer,, anyone know

about brain cancer??? I have looked on webmd , but im understanding

it,,, so if anyone can help me.. i would apprecaite it,, thanks

everyone,,, thanks Mike,,, you are so awesome and knowlageble....hope

everyone is safe from the storms,, God bless you all

soft hugs

T

- In Stimulator , " mike2boys " <mike2boys@...> wrote:

>

> It has gotten alittle quiet here lately, how is everyone? can

everyone

> checkin? also if your in LA hurricanne patch Please find safe place

to

> go. If at all possible can everyone checkin. If anyone has any

> questions it is good time to ask? Mike group owner

>

September 1, 2008

Chris

Good luck with your surgery on Friday. I'm glad your persistance with your

doctor finally paid off. I hope you get good pain relief with it. Everything

will go well. Pease keep us posted. You will be in our thoughts and prayers.

Sue C

Moderator

From: C. <gnomie02649@...>

Subject: Re: Group

Stimulator

Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 3:01 PM