Depression

[Guest guest]

Do you have a credible source that suggests that there might be some

benefit to organ cleansing? Here's what I found on Wikipedia:

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> /Quackwatch <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quackwatch>/ describes body

> cleansing and detoxification as an elaborate hoax

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax> used by con artists

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con_artist> to cure nonexistent

> illnesses. The 'toxins' that are removed have been described as

> invented to give promoters something pretend they can fix.^[1]

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_cleansing#cite_note-0> Medical

> experts state that the body cleansing is unnecessary since the body is

> actually very good at maintaining itself, with several organs

> dedicated to cleansing the blood <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood>

> and gut <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastrointestinal_tract>.^[2]

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_cleansing#cite_note-1>

>

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> Posted by: " vanadeux " vanadeux@...

> <mailto:vanadeux@...?Subject=%20Re%3ADepression>

> vanadeux <vanadeux>

>

>

> Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:44 am (PDT)

>

> Its very true indeed that depression is often linked with low

> thyroid..and then reactions to grief..and also a toxic colon..I

> cleared alot of my worst depression with Cleaning out my colon!!

>

> The poisons from the bowel can poison the mind!

>

> Yes I also had to deal with emotional baggages, as do most of us..and

> then the thyroid can also influence the depression..

> .

>

> but also do not forget the liver too..a liver that cannot clean the

> blood, means a toxic lymphatic system..which can lead to congested

> thyroid gland..

>

> we tend to just look at the thyroid and say oh its hypo..but why??

>

> Many people have done lots of successful cleansing ..over time and

> then they find that their thyroid starts to heal..

>

> just giving another angle on things..

>

> take care all

>

> ajd

[Guest guest]

Hi Debra,

I also become extremely depressed shorty after eating any gluten products. The

opiod peptides, in wheat (and other grains) and its gluten, cause impairment of

neurotransmitter function in the brain. In addition to depression, in many

people it causes addiction, lack of impulse control, rage and other emotional,

mental and physical imbalances. Fortunately, grains are unnecessary in the

human diet. We are much better off getting all our vitamins, minerals and other

nutrients from meat, vegetables and fruits, which are far better sources anyway.

As long as I stay very close to a paleo-type diet (no processed food, no grains,

no dairy, no legumes), I function very well, mentally and physically. I learned

most of this in " Dangerous Grains " by Braly, and Ron Hoggan; " Going

Against the Grain " , by Diane ; and " The Paleo Diet " by Loren

Cordain, PhD. It's not easy to give up grains, but the rewards are great.

All the best to you,

Dawn

depression

I reread the section on Avoid foods and it does say Avoid Sprouted Wheat. I

guess some folks can tolerate it better than others. I think I was confusing

it with spelt. Now that I have pinpointed my problem, I am quick to notice

the symptoms. I do get tired almost 20 minutes after I ingest it. I feel

bloated (even though I was not bloated or full this morning). Also, I get

depressed. I was not depressed this morning. This symptom is curious for me.

How does wheat cause depression?

I could just say that it lowers energy, but I do not feel the same way with

hypoglycemia (eating too many carbs, too much food). The difference I notice

with hypoglycemia is that I may feel tired, but I feel like it will pass or

some physical activity will cure it. With the wheat fatigue though, it feels

like it is here to stay for the day. And I feel depressed which I do not

with hypoglycemia.

Deb

[Guest guest]

I can't give you a scientific reason for the depression but it is very

common reaction.

I would suggest that it is the way your body is trying to tell you it

doesn't like what you are doing.

So, avoid all wheat.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Debra <mermaideeee@...> wrote:

> I reread the section on Avoid foods and it does say Avoid Sprouted

> Wheat. I

> guess some folks can tolerate it better than others. I think I was

> confusing

> it with spelt. Now that I have pinpointed my problem, I am quick to notice

> the symptoms. I do get tired almost 20 minutes after I ingest it. I feel

> bloated (even though I was not bloated or full this morning). Also, I get

> depressed. I was not depressed this morning. This symptom is curious for

> me.

> How does wheat cause depression?

>

> I could just say that it lowers energy, but I do not feel the same way with

> hypoglycemia (eating too many carbs, too much food). The difference I

> notice

> with hypoglycemia is that I may feel tired, but I feel like it will pass or

> some physical activity will cure it. With the wheat fatigue though, it

> feels

> like it is here to stay for the day. And I feel depressed which I do not

> with hypoglycemia.

>

> Deb

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried sam-e? Or tryptophan? Lithium is sold by Swansons.

Are you bi-polar? Sorry you are feeling so bad but I have been there. Don't

give up. Is there an herb shop where you live to test for what will work?

BJ

Depression

It's getting dark and cold here in Ohio and I'm getting extremely

depressed. My doctors tried SSRI's early this year and I had terrible

reactions to them. I had two trips the the emergency room I reacted so

poorly to them. 5-HtP seemed to raise my anxiety. I have flourescent

lighting in my room. I'm doing mercury dmps chelation right now. I just

don't know what I can do to help with the depression. It's getting sooo

bad right now. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so desperate

I'm thinking about trying SSRI's again at a low dosage. I don't think

I'll ever recover from candidasis & leaky gut until I improve the

depression.

[Guest guest]

Chris:

Have a look at my email to Duncan about hormones and Candida. I sent it to

the Coconut Oil List and if you aren't a member of that List, let me know

and I'll copy and paste it to you.

Candida has A BIG EFFECT on Hormones and Hormones have A BIG EFFECT on

causing Depression.

There is a lot you can do for that instead of the SSRI's or whatever you

call it.

Bonnie

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Chris

Sent: December 4, 2008 12:02 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Depression

It's getting dark and cold here in Ohio and I'm getting extremely

depressed. My doctors tried SSRI's early this year and I had terrible

reactions to them. I had two trips the the emergency room I reacted so

poorly to them. 5-HtP seemed to raise my anxiety. I have flourescent

lighting in my room. I'm doing mercury dmps chelation right now. I just

don't know what I can do to help with the depression. It's getting sooo

bad right now. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so desperate

I'm thinking about trying SSRI's again at a low dosage. I don't think

I'll ever recover from candidasis & leaky gut until I improve the

depression.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You might also want to move out of Ohio. My illness started once I

moved to Ohio (Cleveland & Columbus). The total lack of sunshine

allows ridiculous amounts of mold to grow. I remember allergy reports

of 20,000+ mold spores per cubic meter of air - rediculous. Image all

of the mycotoxins being released into your body on a regular basis.

Columbus, OH is also one of the sickest cities based on the number of

prescriptions written. I can pretty much guarantee that it all stems

from chronic mold infections across the state.

I got out 5 years ago and never looked back.

Cheers,

Brad

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:02 PM, <arnie019@...> wrote:

> It's getting dark and cold here in Ohio and I'm getting extremely

> depressed. My doctors tried SSRI's early this year and I had terrible

> reactions to them. I had two trips the the emergency room I reacted so

> poorly to them. 5-HtP seemed to raise my anxiety. I have flourescent

> lighting in my room. I'm doing mercury dmps chelation right now. I just

> don't know what I can do to help with the depression. It's getting sooo

> bad right now. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so desperate

> I'm thinking about trying SSRI's again at a low dosage. I don't think

> I'll ever recover from candidasis & leaky gut until I improve the

> depression.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'd suggest searching for Dr. Abram Hoffer's method for depression,

anxiety and schizophrenia; it's vitamins and minerals. Hoffer was

often in collaboration with Linus ing.

In addition, we've been seeing good results with salvia divinorum, the

" diviners sage " , at lower-than-psychedelic doses. This is also real

good as an anti-addictive; I have the anti-addiction data here:

http://tinyurl.com/salvia-references

Duncan

>

> Chris:

>

>

>

> Have a look at my email to Duncan about hormones and Candida. I sent

it to

> the Coconut Oil List and if you aren't a member of that List, let me

know

> and I'll copy and paste it to you.

>

>

>

> Candida has A BIG EFFECT on Hormones and Hormones have A BIG EFFECT

on

> causing Depression.

>

>

>

> There is a lot you can do for that instead of the SSRI's or whatever

you

> call it.

>

>

>

> Bonnie

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: candidiasis

[mailto:candidiasis ] On

> Behalf Of Chris

> Sent: December 4, 2008 12:02 AM

> candidiasis

> Subject: Depression

>

>

>

> It's getting dark and cold here in Ohio and I'm getting extremely

> depressed. My doctors tried SSRI's early this year and I had

terrible

> reactions to them. I had two trips the the emergency room I reacted

so

> poorly to them. 5-HtP seemed to raise my anxiety. I have flourescent

> lighting in my room. I'm doing mercury dmps chelation right now. I

just

> don't know what I can do to help with the depression. It's getting

sooo

> bad right now. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so desperate

> I'm thinking about trying SSRI's again at a low dosage. I don't

think

> I'll ever recover from candidasis & leaky gut until I improve the

> depression.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That stuff is all the rage with kids nowadays.

greg

> >

> > Chris:

> >

> >

> >

> > Have a look at my email to Duncan about hormones and Candida. I sent

> it to

> > the Coconut Oil List and if you aren't a member of that List, let me

> know

> > and I'll copy and paste it to you.

> >

> >

> >

> > Candida has A BIG EFFECT on Hormones and Hormones have A BIG EFFECT

> on

> > causing Depression.

> >

> >

> >

> > There is a lot you can do for that instead of the SSRI's or whatever

> you

> > call it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Bonnie

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: candidiasis

> [mailto:candidiasis ] On

> > Behalf Of Chris

> > Sent: December 4, 2008 12:02 AM

> > candidiasis

> > Subject: Depression

> >

> >

> >

> > It's getting dark and cold here in Ohio and I'm getting extremely

> > depressed. My doctors tried SSRI's early this year and I had

> terrible

> > reactions to them. I had two trips the the emergency room I reacted

> so

> > poorly to them. 5-HtP seemed to raise my anxiety. I have flourescent

> > lighting in my room. I'm doing mercury dmps chelation right now. I

> just

> > don't know what I can do to help with the depression. It's getting

> sooo

> > bad right now. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so desperate

> > I'm thinking about trying SSRI's again at a low dosage. I don't

> think

> > I'll ever recover from candidasis & leaky gut until I improve the

> > depression.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Maybe it's a good thing more druggies are trying salvia divinorum

given it's anti-addictive property; a couple of teens who used it only

two or thee times in a week at a subpsychedelic dose had reduced their

chronic pot smoking by half, a couple of people got off crack after

trying it a few times in a month, one fella didn't even have

withdrawal symptoms after dropping heroin and using salvia a few

times, and a health-care professional reduced cigarettes by half in a

single week without trying, just by using salvia three times at a very

low dose.

I understand patients with cluster headaches reponded favourably in U

Kansas' salvia trials but I don't have the details on it.

Duncan

Duncan

> > >

> > > Chris:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Have a look at my email to Duncan about hormones and Candida. I

sent

> > it to

> > > the Coconut Oil List and if you aren't a member of that List,

let me

> > know

> > > and I'll copy and paste it to you.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Candida has A BIG EFFECT on Hormones and Hormones have A BIG

EFFECT

> > on

> > > causing Depression.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There is a lot you can do for that instead of the SSRI's or

whatever

> > you

> > > call it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: candidiasis

> > [mailto:candidiasis ] On

> > > Behalf Of Chris

> > > Sent: December 4, 2008 12:02 AM

> > > candidiasis

> > > Subject: Depression

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > It's getting dark and cold here in Ohio and I'm getting

extremely

> > > depressed. My doctors tried SSRI's early this year and I had

> > terrible

> > > reactions to them. I had two trips the the emergency room I

reacted

> > so

> > > poorly to them. 5-HtP seemed to raise my anxiety. I have

flourescent

> > > lighting in my room. I'm doing mercury dmps chelation right now.

I

> > just

> > > don't know what I can do to help with the depression. It's

getting

> > sooo

> > > bad right now. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so

desperate

> > > I'm thinking about trying SSRI's again at a low dosage. I don't

> > think

> > > I'll ever recover from candidasis & leaky gut until I improve

the

> > > depression.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Can I ask where you moved to?

Re: Depression

Hi,

You might also want to move out of Ohio. My illness started once I

moved to Ohio (Cleveland & Columbus). The total lack of sunshine

allows ridiculous amounts of mold to grow. I remember allergy reports

of 20,000+ mold spores per cubic meter of air - rediculous. Image all

of the mycotoxins being released into your body on a regular basis.

Columbus, OH is also one of the sickest cities based on the number of

prescriptions written. I can pretty much guarantee that it all stems

from chronic mold infections across the state.

I got out 5 years ago and never looked back.

Cheers,

Brad

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:02 PM, <arnie019@...> wrote:

> It's getting dark and cold here in Ohio and I'm getting extremely

> depressed. My doctors tried SSRI's early this year and I had terrible

> reactions to them. I had two trips the the emergency room I reacted so

> poorly to them. 5-HtP seemed to raise my anxiety. I have flourescent

> lighting in my room. I'm doing mercury dmps chelation right now. I

just

> don't know what I can do to help with the depression. It's getting

sooo

> bad right now. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so desperate

> I'm thinking about trying SSRI's20again at a low dosage. I don't think

> I'll ever recover from candidasis & leaky gut until I improve the

> depression.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

does your depression depend on the amount of daylight available ? I mean,

you get depressed in fall /winter when it starts getting dark and you cheer

up in spring ?

Then I would suggest ­ IMHO - candida is NOT the main reason for this, but

rather seasonal affective disorder. The mother of a friend of mine suffered

terribly from that. She had moved from sunny Austria to Manchester, UK,

because she had married an English man. Each year in fall, the whole family

started again worrying that she might commit suicide ... but back then,

doctors did not know what to do about it.

I do not know what kind of ³fluorescent light² you are using ­ is it one of

these light therapy boxes that produce at least 10.000 LUX and have the same

spectrum as daylight ?

Years back, I was considering buying one of these lamps, because I tend to

get passive and moody in winter.

But I then found another solution: going to the tanning booth ! When I lie

in a sunbed, absorb the ultraviolet light and feel the warmth on my body, I

almost feel like I am lying on a sunny beach ­ and it definitely cheers me

up !

Maybe it will help you as well.

cheers,

Am 04.12.2008 6:02 Uhr schrieb " " unter <arnie019@...>:

>

>

>

> It's getting dark and cold here in Ohio and I'm getting extremely

> depressed. My doctors tried SSRI's early this year and I had terrible

> reactions to them. I had two trips the the emergency room I reacted so

> poorly to them. 5-HtP seemed to raise my anxiety. I have flourescent

> lighting in my room. I'm doing mercury dmps chelation right now. I just

> don't know what I can do to help with the depression. It's getting sooo

> bad right now. I have no motivation to do anything. I'm so desperate

> I'm thinking about trying SSRI's again at a low dosage. I don't think

> I'll ever recover from candidasis & leaky gut until I improve the

> depression.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I also have to highly recommend tanning for depression and overall health. I

always feel much better when I tan, get sick less, etc. Vitamin D deficiency

has been found to have a high correlation with low immune system functioning and

depression.

Luv, Debby in San , CA

147 lbs lost! Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Group: curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

----- Original Message ----

> From: imageandmore

> Hi

>

> does your depression depend on the amount of daylight available ? I mean,

> you get depressed in fall /winter when it starts getting dark and you cheer

> up in spring ?

>

> Then I would suggest ­ IMHO - candida is NOT the main reason for this, but

> rather seasonal affective disorder. The mother of a friend of mine suffered

> terribly from that. She had moved from sunny Austria to Manchester, UK,

> because she had married an English man. Each year in fall, the whole family

> started again worrying that she might commit suicide ... but back then,

> doctors did not know what to do about it.

>

> I do not know what kind of ³fluorescent light² you are using ­ is it one of

> these light therapy boxes that produce at least 10.000 LUX and have the same

> spectrum as daylight ?

>

> Years back, I was considering buying one of these lamps, because I tend to

> get passive and moody in winter.

> But I then found another solution: going to the tanning booth ! When I lie

> in a sunbed, absorb the ultraviolet light and feel the warmth on my body, I

> almost feel like I am lying on a sunny beach ­ and it definitely cheers me

> up !

[Guest guest]



See Dr Alistair's depression protocol.

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MA(Clin.Psych.), PsyD, ND, DIHom.

www.collegenaturalmedicine.co.za

DEPRESSION

Friends:

I have a patient with constant depression. She doesn´t find a purpose to live. I love to have her as a patient but my goal is to help her definitely. She can pay thousands and thousand of sessions but she has to improve.

What do you recommend me?

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]



 See Dr Alistair's depression protocol.

Renier du Toit

MA(Clin.Psych.), PsyD, ND, DIHom.

www.collegenaturalmedicine.co.za

DEPRESSION

Friends:

I have a patient with constant depression. She doesn´t find a purpose to live. I love to have her as a patient but my goal is to help her definitely. She can pay thousands and thousand of sessions but she has to improve.

What do you recommend me?

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Loes, I'm so glad you're feeling better.

I think depression is an entirely different animal than just unhappiness --

and it usually takes different measures, to rid one's self of it. I remember

going through a period of depression more than thirty years ago. One of the

worst parts, for me, was realizing I " had nothing to complain of " , that there

was

nothing happening in my life to make me sad. I just was, unbearably.

Eventually, I asked for help and was given an anti-depressant; I don't recall

what

kind. After a time, the awfulness went. Nothing, absolutely nothing, that I had

done to try to shake it off on my own had helped one little bit. The best I

remember, I " asked for help " by drinking a bottle of tequila, when I don't even

like to drink. No one had noticed that I was depressed. I wonder how long I

would have had to be miserable if it weren't for anti-depressants.

I describe all this, not to just talk about myself, but to emphasize the

importance of looking for help rather than trying to rid one's self of

depression.

I think that those of us with liver disease are somehow physically,

chemically, more prone to depression.

Oddly, I've been quite happy ever since I was diagnosed with AIH. At first I

wondered if I had some sort of prednisone-induced euphoria, a kind of

psychosis. However, I now I see it isn't that. I'm just lucky enough to be

happy!

(At first, I was simply happy to be alive each day.)

Harper

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Hi all,

Depression.

Now it is better, but I have been really depressed since the summer of last

year. Depressed for no apparent reason. Just weepy, so full of sadness, not

able to find joy in anything or not being able to hold on to that joy for a

long time which is very strange to me since I normally see the beauty in

anything even if it is sadness. Tears for a lots one, my sister, my father,

my mother of course that is sad but also beautiful. But the unexplained

sadness the darkness was so new to me, so scanry and unexplained. I had

severe backpains, messed around with the prednison and oxycocet (helps for

pain but is horrible stuff). I blame it on the rapid changes in prednison.

Now evertything after six months seems to be back to normal. It is good to

know that many of you deal with depression. Eventhough I have known sorrow

and grief I'm glad to now be able to understand depression by experience. It

is though. I was able to do it without medications but I now also see that

if it happens again for whatever reasons there are alternatives.

Take care everyone

Love loes

36 years, AIH since 2000

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of jjcathcart

Sent: January 18, 2009 1:16 PM

Subject: [ ] Depression

is right. Myself I have taken anti-depressents for years.I personally

take Lexapro. That one is a safe one that has been around for years. Is

liver friendly with no bad side effects. Is considered to be a safe

medication. If I stop taking them I find I become weepy.......... So.I shall

stay on. Joanne

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Thanks for pulling that up. What you added is exactly what I intended, the

point I wanted to make. I appreciate your clarifying, emphasizing it. I felt

terribly guilty because I was miserable for " no good reason " . What I needed was

that combination of psychotherapy (I was pointed toward a problem I had

dismissed as irrelevant) and antidepressant medications. Thirty years later,

I've had

no recurrence. In fact, I feel truly happy most of the time, except for being

discouraged by my lack of " liver progress " .

I hadn't thought of this until I started writing, but I may look for a

medically-moderated (not on-line) group for people with chronic disease. That

intervention thirty years ago was really important. Maybe I can find better ways

to

deal with never being as healthy as I hope to be. Hmmmm.

Harper

In a message dated 1/21/09 11:55:41 AM, kuerston@... writes:

> Re what Harper wrote - One of the worst parts, for me, was realizing I " had

> nothing to complain of " , that there was nothing happening in my life to make

> me sad - just one caution. When this happens, it can also be due to

> clinical depression, in which case it must be treated by a professional, a

> combination of psychotherapy and antidepressant medications can be an

> effective treatment.

>

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Loes, I was going to reply then saw Harper's response. I couldn't have said

it half as well, so just wanted to say ditto, and so glad you have gone into

the light at the end of the depression tunnel. I remember you from years

ago, so I really was worried about you.

Re what Harper wrote - One of the worst parts, for me, was realizing I " had

nothing to complain of " , that there was nothing happening in my life to make

me sad - just one caution. When this happens, it can also be due to

clinical depression, in which case it must be treated by a professional, a

combination of psychotherapy and antidepressant medications can be an

effective treatment.

What does the term " clinical depression " mean?

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/clinical-depression/AN01057

Kay

[Guest guest]

You won't become " dependent " on needed antidepressants. Sometimes they are

the only thing that will help clinical depression. One's own efforts just won't

change chemical problems in the body. I hope you will talk to a doctor; you

could be wasting valuable energy, valuable years. Life should be enjoyed, not

endured.

Harper

In a message dated 1/25/09 8:43:29 AM, i8ahobo2day@... writes:

> I'm nervous about becoming

> dependant on medication so I tend to lean away from those sort of

> methods. I don't even see a doctor about it.

>

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,

I'm only 19 and started on 50mg of pred when i was diagnosed in

September of 08. It's been a very rough ride and I have to say the pred

did not help my already stressed and depressed mind. I wasn't too sure

if it was just something a normal young adult would go through but

after reading the responses to this thread it seems as though there are

a lot of people who have been emotionally effected by the high dosage

of pred. I'm still not on anti-depressants. I'm nervous about becoming

dependant on medication so I tend to lean away from those sort of

methods. I don't even see a doctor about it. I write more now, let it

all out. It builds up pretty quickly and college, life, friends, and

family issues don't slow down for people like us! I hope everything is

going better than earlier. I know this might be a little late but I

just found this site. Thanks again for bringing this up. I don't feel

so alone anymore

Liz (AIH)

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

I know what you mean about using anti-depressants. When I was put on them I

cried because I didn't want to become dependant on a pill. However, after

being on them just a week I realized they weren't bad at all, they were

wonderful! The deep hopeless hole that I had been living in for so long was

lifted. I felt truly happy and remember asking my sisters if this is what

normal

felt like. I never felt drugged at all, I felt free. In fact I had no side

effects at all. Looking back now I realize they saved my life by making life

worthwhile.

I don't know if it is the prednisone that has made you depressed since I was

never on it, but I do know that having a chronic illness can do it! When we

are diagnosed at the prime of our lives and have so many terrible symptoms

it really messes with our peace of mind..

I'm not saying you or anyone else should take anti-depressants, I'm just

sharing my story in hopes it may help you or someone else.. Thanks for

responding to my post!

Hugs,

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Can you get on disability?  I would research opportunities in your state for deaf people?  Surely there is some sort of job retraining assistance available?  You really need to try to find some low-cost or free counseling also.  Depression is real and you need help to break out of that cycle.  My prayers are with you!!

 

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On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:52 PM, annadilynn <annadilynn@...> wrote:

I am having a bit of a tuff time as of lately. I have been in customer service all my life...after this last operation, well I just cant hear that much, so they fired me...I could not give the quality of service they desired anymore, and customer and co-workers comments...etc.

so now what do i do..i cant get a job..i dont know how to do anything else..and no one wants to hire a deaf person, I cant use the phone ...are finances are now screwed...i just feel like crying all the time....i feel sick from the antibiotic i am on constantly...i am sorry, dont mean to be a downer but my family dont understand...i have no one to talk to.

[Guest guest]

I think everyone of us here has been in your place at some point or another. I've been a stay at home mom and now then w/ all the bills adding up I really needed to work but like you there isn't much you can do when u can't hear. We were really blessed to get financial help from our church plus we qualified for the charity programs at the hospital since we did not have insurance. It can be just soo overwhelming at times. I suffer from major anxiety now and have to take medications. I thought I could get thru it all w/ out the meds and took myself off of them. Boy was that a mistake!!! My family was calling the dr for me to make an appt so I could get back on my meds..LOL. Sometimes just venting and knowing that there are other people out there who are suffering just as you are helps us all feel a little

better. Please talk to your dr about it. Depression and anxiety are real diseases and can be treated. Best of luck to you!!!

chin up

JO

From: annadilynn <annadilynn@...>Subject: depressioncholesteatoma Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 7:52 PM

I am having a bit of a tuff time as of lately. I have been in customer service all my life...after this last operation, well I just cant hear that much, so they fired me...I could not give the quality of service they desired anymore, and customer and co-workers comments...etc.so now what do i do..i cant get a job..i dont know how to do anything else..and no one wants to hire a deaf person, I cant use the phone ...are finances are now screwed...i just feel like crying all the time....i feel sick from the antibiotic i am on constantly.. .i am sorry, dont mean to be a downer but my family dont understand.. .i have no one to talk to.

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to hear about your situation. And the reality is you are

going through a rough time of life. But, you will make it through

this. Please, do as the others have said and begin to investigate your

options. Sometimes it take a lot of effort to start making phone calls

to see what help is out there. And it might take a lot of effort, but

by beginning to look at possibilities you will find something else to

do. I've been there before and if I concentrate on the fear of what

might happen I became paralyzed. Instead, I had to determine (make the

choice) to begin to fight and keep moving forward.

You could check with the state agencies. Look in the phone book for

some help lines that can refer you to other places that can help.

Sometimes one call leads to another, and another, etc. Keep going

until you find help.

Hang in there. Move forward step by step, minute by minute. You can

get through this.

I am having a

bit of a tuff time as of lately. I have been in customer service all my

life...after this last operation, well I just cant hear that much, so

they fired me...I could not give the quality of service they desired

anymore, and customer and co-workers comments...etc.

so now what do i do..i cant get a job..i dont know how to do anything

else..and no one wants to hire a deaf person, I cant use the phone

....are finances are now screwed...i just feel like crying all the

time....i feel sick from the antibiotic i am on constantly..

..i am sorry, dont mean to be a downer but my family dont

understand...i have no one to talk to.

[Guest guest]

Sorry your job took such measures - if you're having trouble hearing why couldn't they place you in a situation where you didn't have to be on the phone all day or get a special device so you could hear? Find a job where you can work the mail that comes in - not everyone calls on the phone - many people write in (I use to work in customer service for Uncle Ben's Rice but didn't have hearing issues then - we received tons of mail and phone calls - so someone did the phones and someone the mail).. Sounds like that company could get in some serious trouble for making some kind of accomodations. You are definetly not alone - just remember you are the only person in control of yourself - so you can make a choice to sit around and feel sorry for yourself or move

forward - life gives many road blocks but we all manage to work around them. Take a brisk walk and relieve some stress - take care!

From: annadilynn <annadilynn@...>cholesteatoma Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:52:02 PMSubject: depression

I am having a bit of a tuff time as of lately.. I have been in customer service all my life...after this last operation, well I just cant hear that much, so they fired me...I could not give the quality of service they desired anymore, and customer and co-workers comments....etc.so now what do i do..i cant get a job..i dont know how to do anything else..and no one wants to hire a deaf person, I cant use the phone ....are finances are now screwed...i just feel like crying all the time....i feel sick from the antibiotic i am on constantly.. .i am sorry, dont mean to be a downer but my family dont understand.. .i have no one to talk to.