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Actually describing someone as blind these days, shows the

discriptor as being very innorant. The term used is sightless, but

of course, you wouldn't know it as your blind.

> > sorry, I can't keep you two clones/idiots straight.

> > Re: [ ] Re: Treatment

> >

> >

> >

> > >you do nothing but twist my words, always and as usual.

Read

> the post

> > >andy. In my boyfriend's apartment, downstairs in the house

> where I live,

> > >he has set up the storespace, as we moved out of ours.

> >

> >

> > Again Saty you refer to the storespace as ours...is it his

or is

> it yours

> > and his ( " ours " )? You gotta be careful about that loose

> language you are

> > so fond of using.

> >

> >

> > >NOW who's posting E-mails from other sites? Isn't this what

you

> > >reprimanded ME for?

> >

> >

> > Satya you have slipped a cog or two! Andy never mentioned

> re=posting

> > others posts...I did (BobK). It was I (BobK) who

reprimanded

> you for

> > reposting my posts to other lists. Your reply to me

indicated

> to all that

> > you feel that this is a correct and proper thing to do so

what

> is your

> > beef?? Do you think Andy and I are one and the same?

> >

> > regards,

> > BobK

> >

> >

> >

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Andy, Isn't it still calle the National Association for the Blind?

Give me a break. I suppose you have a problem with calling Polish

people Polacks too? I'm a Polack by the way.m It would appear that

you sure are reaching to find things to say about Satya.

K

> > > sorry, I can't keep you two clones/idiots straight.

> > > Re: [ ] Re: Treatment

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >you do nothing but twist my words, always and as usual.

> Read

> > the post

> > > >andy. In my boyfriend's apartment, downstairs in the house

> > where I live,

> > > >he has set up the storespace, as we moved out of ours.

> > >

> > >

> > > Again Saty you refer to the storespace as ours...is it his

> or is

> > it yours

> > > and his ( " ours " )? You gotta be careful about that loose

> > language you are

> > > so fond of using.

> > >

> > >

> > > >NOW who's posting E-mails from other sites? Isn't this

what

> you

> > > >reprimanded ME for?

> > >

> > >

> > > Satya you have slipped a cog or two! Andy never mentioned

> > re=posting

> > > others posts...I did (BobK). It was I (BobK) who

> reprimanded

> > you for

> > > reposting my posts to other lists. Your reply to me

> indicated

> > to all that

> > > you feel that this is a correct and proper thing to do so

> what

> > is your

> > > beef?? Do you think Andy and I are one and the same?

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > BobK

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --------------------------------------------------------------

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Eddie, I seem to remember reading about the treatment you're describing only it was for HIV/AIDS. About 10 years ago they were doing this - taking the blood out of the body, heating it to very high temps & returning it to the body in Mexico. Quite a few desperate people went through it against medical advise - the idea was that the heat would kill the virus. I never heard of ANYONEclearing the virus & you know if it had worked it would be the tx of choice for all HIV/AIDS patients. Looks like they dusted it off & changed the virus name too make some money - sorry.

SuzieTubs46@... wrote:

Has anyone herd of a treatment where they hook a tube up to each leg and pump fluid in and blood out and heat the blood up to 170 degrees and then return it to the body. It's a 4 hr process then they give you some type of medicine to take for a year. Then they do a viral load test. They are supposed to be doing this a Emory.

Remember, if you haven't got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart......Then you are just an old sour fart.Eddie

Next time I'm coming back as a cat .

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Hi, Kent!

You will do good easing your mind into treatment as well; you have a

winning attitude! Try to relax and not anticipate anything and you

may be blessed with very few side effects. Now kill that virus!

Hugs and prayers,

Suzy

> I started treatment with Copegus and Pegasys this week. I started

the Copegus on Sunday and the Pegasys on Tuesday night. I figure I

let my body get used to the pills for a couple days before I started

the shots. So far no side effects except for a little dizziness, for

the most part I am not feeling any worse than I had been before the

treatments. I am 1B with stage one and a viral lode (copies) that

were off the scale, the other reading was over 6 million. I think

that the viral lode is why I have not been feeling so good but the

Dr's can't give me an answer. I will keep posted as the treatment

progresses. Later, Kent.

>

>

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In a message dated 9/12/2004 11:19:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

psita@... writes:

My treatment was pegylated interferon and ribavirin. Terry

That's what I was afraid you say................Oh well, in for a penny, in

for a pound, as my Grandmother Trimmer used to say.

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God Bless you Bettie Jane,

Sounds like you make some good choices. Here I am spouting the invincibility of

Rituxan and you turn out to be one of those that doesn't react to it right away.

As we have found out many times, some people or even a lot of people react much

better to Rituxan in combination etc. Like you said nothing is for sure with

this sickness. I am glad that you are in the middle of this going full steam.

Thats the only way to go after this disease and my hat is off to you. Good

luck with your treatments, Kurt

treatment

Dear Sll/Cll group,

I try to keep up with all the posts to this site and have been especially

informed by reading Chonette's situation and the responses to her notes. For

information for the group, I thought I would also give you what is going on with

me.

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CD20 has to be positive and the brighter it is, the better Rituxan will work...

I found out through a FISH test in 2001 that my CD20 was positive... If CD20

is not positive or bright enough, Rituxan won't help much... Not all CLLers

have a bright CD20...

Regards,

Walter V.

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:47:33 -0700

From: " Kurt Grayson " <thel.g@...>

Subject: Re: treatment

God Bless you Bettie Jane,

Sounds like you make some good choices. Here I am spouting the invincibility of

Rituxan and you turn out to be one of those that doesn't react to it right away.

As we have found out many times, some people or even a lot of people react much

better to Rituxan in combination etc. Like you said nothing is for sure with

this sickness. I am glad that you are in the middle of this going full steam.

Thats the only way to go after this disease and my hat is off to you. Good

luck with your treatments, Kurt

treatment

Dear Sll/Cll group,

I try to keep up with all the posts to this site and have been especially

informed by reading Chonette's situation and the responses to her notes. For

information for the group, I thought I would also give you what is going on with

me.

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Pat,

Welcome to the group,isn't the www incredible in the fact that people from

all across the world can comunnicate.

I assume you are in the eary stages of the disease and are overwhelmed right

now.

The Interluken 6 drugs also known as MRA is strictly clinical research right

now.They aren't even doing trials in the states yet.It's also being studied

for the incredible effects it has on children with systemic onset JRA.

There are alot of wonderful new drugs out there and most children do great on

some of the older ones.

I don't know whats available in Bulgaria but here they use

Enbrel,Remicade,Humira and Kiniret for the more harder to treat children.

It is highly unlikely that your child will not respond to something or a

combination of drugs.

Be warned of homeopathy and supplements,they aren't governed the way OTC and

prescription drugs are.Some are harmless while others can interfere with the

medications your child is taking or will be taking.

Reading up on the meds is scarey but they are pretty safe and you monitor

closely with labs.

My son has been sick for over 4 yrs and a good 3yrs has been perfect or near

perfect and he was very sick in the beginning.

Hang in there and ask any questions you may have.

Hugs

Becki and 7 systemic JRA

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Thanks Mike for responding. I am of course 1A, like almost eveyone

else.

> >

> > I am 62 yrs old and have known I have Hep C since 95, saw a

> specialist

> > and was told I had about 7% chance of any damage. I am the

queen

> of

> > denial so I kept drinking and smoking. In Oct 04, I found out I

am

> at

> > stage 3 liver disease after having a liver biopsy and viral load

of

> > 3million. I am tired a lot and

> > have lots of aches and pain in joints. I stopped drinking in

1/05

> and

> > stopped smoking in 8/05. I am very overweight, so my decision

is

> do I

> > really want to go through the available treatment. I have been

> seeing

> > a specialist for a year, they only come to my town once a month

and

> > have so many clients I haven't been able to start the interferon

> yet.

> > I

> > have had my heart checked and liver portal checked and both are

> fine.

> > I wonder if anyone else debates rather to have treatment or

not.

> If I

> > was 30 or 40, I won't hestitate or if I knew the treatment

would

> > work, but there are so many side effects and other diseases that

> can

> > come to light, I wonder if it is worth it. I have started taking

> Milk

> > Thistle. Wonder what other my age

> > think?

> >

>

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M & #304;chael, God stay with you.

MICHAEL LOGSDON <daddeuce@...> wrote:

Hello. I am starting saturday. good luck and god bless.

nanc340 <no_reply > wrote: Got my med in, going to start tx

Sunday.

please say little pray for me.

Happy Thanksgiving

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....sure. some helps a lot, some not so much, some not at all, some is

bad... what are you considering or interested in?

are you asking about stuff you can do yourself or something more heavy-duty

like a clinic outside the country?

i use colloidal silver 3x/day and avoid polluted food/water, but still smoke

cigars.... if not for that i'd be sick and homeless. might end up that way

anyway soon due to lack of work coming in...things are pretty scary and no

grocery or gas $ even...but physically feeling better than i have since

puberty, esp since the damned sex hormones no longer are a source of

damnable torment.

bobL

> treatment

>

>

> Hi there,

>

> Has anyone out there sought alternative treatment? Thanks!!!

>

>

>

>

>

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....sure. some helps a lot, some not so much, some not at all, some is

bad... what are you considering or interested in?

are you asking about stuff you can do yourself or something more heavy-duty

like a clinic outside the country?

i use colloidal silver 3x/day and avoid polluted food/water, but still smoke

cigars.... if not for that i'd be sick and homeless. might end up that way

anyway soon due to lack of work coming in...things are pretty scary and no

grocery or gas $ even...but physically feeling better than i have since

puberty, esp since the damned sex hormones no longer are a source of

damnable torment.

bobL

> treatment

>

>

> Hi there,

>

> Has anyone out there sought alternative treatment? Thanks!!!

>

>

>

>

>

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....sure. some helps a lot, some not so much, some not at all, some is

bad... what are you considering or interested in?

are you asking about stuff you can do yourself or something more heavy-duty

like a clinic outside the country?

i use colloidal silver 3x/day and avoid polluted food/water, but still smoke

cigars.... if not for that i'd be sick and homeless. might end up that way

anyway soon due to lack of work coming in...things are pretty scary and no

grocery or gas $ even...but physically feeling better than i have since

puberty, esp since the damned sex hormones no longer are a source of

damnable torment.

bobL

> treatment

>

>

> Hi there,

>

> Has anyone out there sought alternative treatment? Thanks!!!

>

>

>

>

>

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....sure. some helps a lot, some not so much, some not at all, some is

bad... what are you considering or interested in?

are you asking about stuff you can do yourself or something more heavy-duty

like a clinic outside the country?

i use colloidal silver 3x/day and avoid polluted food/water, but still smoke

cigars.... if not for that i'd be sick and homeless. might end up that way

anyway soon due to lack of work coming in...things are pretty scary and no

grocery or gas $ even...but physically feeling better than i have since

puberty, esp since the damned sex hormones no longer are a source of

damnable torment.

bobL

> treatment

>

>

> Hi there,

>

> Has anyone out there sought alternative treatment? Thanks!!!

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Janie,

I can help you in this area with more information. Please call me, this way

we can cover more " ground " so to speak.

1-866-677-7978 toll free

Kind regards,

Claudine Lanoix CHT

Centre Hyperbare De L'Ile

& American Hyperbarics

( Mom to Michel and Mathieu both with CP & low vision - Mathieu also had

hydrocephalus

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I tend to agree with you when it comes to treatment (the actual stats are

very low as far as clearing the disease) That is why those of us who have only

slightly elevated levels of enzymes and little fibrosis are usually told to

wait for something better. Since most of us contracted HCV before the blood

supply was tested for hep c. It indicates that we have coexisted quite well

for years and can continue to do so until there is a less poisonous

treatment.

Joe

In a message dated 2/22/2007 12:52:31 PM Central Standard Time,

bobLists@... writes:

response to tx at about 50%, then about (50% or less?) of those stay clear

for awhile. not sure about the latest figures for newer formulations, but

still odds of both getting clear and staying that way for more than a couple

years are, i think, about 1:4 at best. then there's the possibility of

sustained and possibly permanent damage and sides from the tx drugs.

if a biopsy probe happens to hit a cancer tumor cells can escape and instant

metastasis occurs. if it doesn't hit it, then the biopsy won't tell that it

exists. i've read two personal accounts in the last several months of

people who had multiple biopsies, one 3 in the course of a few months, the

other 3 the same day, both persons were told results confirmed low to no

liver damage, both had need for surgery to gall bladder very shortly

afterward and the liver when exposed proved to be in late stage cirrhosis.

this tells me that the risk:benefit ratio of biopsy is questionable and

generally the reliability and accuracy of it is exaggerated on the good

side.

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I tend to agree with you when it comes to treatment (the actual stats are

very low as far as clearing the disease) That is why those of us who have only

slightly elevated levels of enzymes and little fibrosis are usually told to

wait for something better. Since most of us contracted HCV before the blood

supply was tested for hep c. It indicates that we have coexisted quite well

for years and can continue to do so until there is a less poisonous

treatment.

Joe

In a message dated 2/22/2007 12:52:31 PM Central Standard Time,

bobLists@... writes:

response to tx at about 50%, then about (50% or less?) of those stay clear

for awhile. not sure about the latest figures for newer formulations, but

still odds of both getting clear and staying that way for more than a couple

years are, i think, about 1:4 at best. then there's the possibility of

sustained and possibly permanent damage and sides from the tx drugs.

if a biopsy probe happens to hit a cancer tumor cells can escape and instant

metastasis occurs. if it doesn't hit it, then the biopsy won't tell that it

exists. i've read two personal accounts in the last several months of

people who had multiple biopsies, one 3 in the course of a few months, the

other 3 the same day, both persons were told results confirmed low to no

liver damage, both had need for surgery to gall bladder very shortly

afterward and the liver when exposed proved to be in late stage cirrhosis.

this tells me that the risk:benefit ratio of biopsy is questionable and

generally the reliability and accuracy of it is exaggerated on the good

side.

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email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at

http://www.aol.com.

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response to tx at about 50%, then about (50% or less?) of those stay clear

for awhile. not sure about the latest figures for newer formulations, but

still odds of both getting clear and staying that way for more than a couple

years are, i think, about 1:4 at best. then there's the possibility of

sustained and possibly permanent damage and sides from the tx drugs.

if a biopsy probe happens to hit a cancer tumor cells can escape and instant

metastasis occurs. if it doesn't hit it, then the biopsy won't tell that it

exists. i've read two personal accounts in the last several months of

people who had multiple biopsies, one 3 in the course of a few months, the

other 3 the same day, both persons were told results confirmed low to no

liver damage, both had need for surgery to gall bladder very shortly

afterward and the liver when exposed proved to be in late stage cirrhosis.

this tells me that the risk:benefit ratio of biopsy is questionable and

generally the reliability and accuracy of it is exaggerated on the good

side.

if using " alternative " treatment modalities it's possibly wiser to just

assume liver damage, cirrhosis, and cancer exist and treat for them to at

least some significant extent.

if going with the conventional usual approach to treatment, then usually one

must just dance to the tune of providers...sometimes a doc is found that

thinks ethically and independently as well as intelligently, and that's a

great find.

you might want to query the GP hard and feedback those answers to the

Gastro, then re-evaluate your decision. sometimes specialists opinions are

worth more, sometimes a GP is lots better...pay good attention to just what

you're responding to and why.

i could tell a story from close personal experience where multiple

high-dollar high-rep specialists were either corrupt (a couple for sure) or

couldn't see outside the narrow scope of their specialties to figure out

what a family GP pinned correctly right away based on a 5 minute

conversation. but i won't take the time, it was a female problem not hep.

> Treatment

>

>

> I take issue with the implication that all doctors are out for the

> bucks. With health insurance these days, their fees are controlled

> by the plans they are connected to as PPOs usually. My gastro

> doctor gave me the choice of biopsy or not. He has been to all the

> conferences and most doctors push for biopsies. He feels that at

> whatever stage you are, having a biopsy isn't going to change how

> you will be treated. Also, there are small but significant risks

> such as bleeding internally. He also put treatment at my

> discretion. Since I am 1a and the possibility for success is 50% I

> thought I'd skip it. I was just going to go along " tra-la " but my

> GP burst that bubble. She strongly recommended that I take the

> treatment. So I'm starting in June after my trip to Italy. I vow

> to not have that shadow cloud my enjoyment. I can just eat all I

> want and have a weight-loss plan waiting for me when I get back.

>

> Seriously, I'm nervous about the treatment as I live alone and need

> to work. But my bosses are understanding and will give me a lighter

> load if I need it. One big help is keeping a positive outlook--you

> might get lucky & be the exception to the rule that all side effects

> will usually be awful.

>

> I found a website on Tuesday with testimonials from a number of

> individuals that explained their side effects in gruesome detail.

> But the underlying message is it's worth it--you felt awful but at

> the end, you're proud you did it. You endured. Keep fixed on that

> light at the end of the tunnel.

>

> Try these sites:

> http://www.hepatitis-c.de/ourstory.htm

> http://www.hepatitis-c.de/linkse.htm

> http://www.hepcchallenge.org/

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & amp;

> communities. Links

>

>

>

>

>

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response to tx at about 50%, then about (50% or less?) of those stay clear

for awhile. not sure about the latest figures for newer formulations, but

still odds of both getting clear and staying that way for more than a couple

years are, i think, about 1:4 at best. then there's the possibility of

sustained and possibly permanent damage and sides from the tx drugs.

if a biopsy probe happens to hit a cancer tumor cells can escape and instant

metastasis occurs. if it doesn't hit it, then the biopsy won't tell that it

exists. i've read two personal accounts in the last several months of

people who had multiple biopsies, one 3 in the course of a few months, the

other 3 the same day, both persons were told results confirmed low to no

liver damage, both had need for surgery to gall bladder very shortly

afterward and the liver when exposed proved to be in late stage cirrhosis.

this tells me that the risk:benefit ratio of biopsy is questionable and

generally the reliability and accuracy of it is exaggerated on the good

side.

if using " alternative " treatment modalities it's possibly wiser to just

assume liver damage, cirrhosis, and cancer exist and treat for them to at

least some significant extent.

if going with the conventional usual approach to treatment, then usually one

must just dance to the tune of providers...sometimes a doc is found that

thinks ethically and independently as well as intelligently, and that's a

great find.

you might want to query the GP hard and feedback those answers to the

Gastro, then re-evaluate your decision. sometimes specialists opinions are

worth more, sometimes a GP is lots better...pay good attention to just what

you're responding to and why.

i could tell a story from close personal experience where multiple

high-dollar high-rep specialists were either corrupt (a couple for sure) or

couldn't see outside the narrow scope of their specialties to figure out

what a family GP pinned correctly right away based on a 5 minute

conversation. but i won't take the time, it was a female problem not hep.

> Treatment

>

>

> I take issue with the implication that all doctors are out for the

> bucks. With health insurance these days, their fees are controlled

> by the plans they are connected to as PPOs usually. My gastro

> doctor gave me the choice of biopsy or not. He has been to all the

> conferences and most doctors push for biopsies. He feels that at

> whatever stage you are, having a biopsy isn't going to change how

> you will be treated. Also, there are small but significant risks

> such as bleeding internally. He also put treatment at my

> discretion. Since I am 1a and the possibility for success is 50% I

> thought I'd skip it. I was just going to go along " tra-la " but my

> GP burst that bubble. She strongly recommended that I take the

> treatment. So I'm starting in June after my trip to Italy. I vow

> to not have that shadow cloud my enjoyment. I can just eat all I

> want and have a weight-loss plan waiting for me when I get back.

>

> Seriously, I'm nervous about the treatment as I live alone and need

> to work. But my bosses are understanding and will give me a lighter

> load if I need it. One big help is keeping a positive outlook--you

> might get lucky & be the exception to the rule that all side effects

> will usually be awful.

>

> I found a website on Tuesday with testimonials from a number of

> individuals that explained their side effects in gruesome detail.

> But the underlying message is it's worth it--you felt awful but at

> the end, you're proud you did it. You endured. Keep fixed on that

> light at the end of the tunnel.

>

> Try these sites:

> http://www.hepatitis-c.de/ourstory.htm

> http://www.hepatitis-c.de/linkse.htm

> http://www.hepcchallenge.org/

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & amp;

> communities. Links

>

>

>

>

>

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response to tx at about 50%, then about (50% or less?) of those stay clear

for awhile. not sure about the latest figures for newer formulations, but

still odds of both getting clear and staying that way for more than a couple

years are, i think, about 1:4 at best. then there's the possibility of

sustained and possibly permanent damage and sides from the tx drugs.

if a biopsy probe happens to hit a cancer tumor cells can escape and instant

metastasis occurs. if it doesn't hit it, then the biopsy won't tell that it

exists. i've read two personal accounts in the last several months of

people who had multiple biopsies, one 3 in the course of a few months, the

other 3 the same day, both persons were told results confirmed low to no

liver damage, both had need for surgery to gall bladder very shortly

afterward and the liver when exposed proved to be in late stage cirrhosis.

this tells me that the risk:benefit ratio of biopsy is questionable and

generally the reliability and accuracy of it is exaggerated on the good

side.

if using " alternative " treatment modalities it's possibly wiser to just

assume liver damage, cirrhosis, and cancer exist and treat for them to at

least some significant extent.

if going with the conventional usual approach to treatment, then usually one

must just dance to the tune of providers...sometimes a doc is found that

thinks ethically and independently as well as intelligently, and that's a

great find.

you might want to query the GP hard and feedback those answers to the

Gastro, then re-evaluate your decision. sometimes specialists opinions are

worth more, sometimes a GP is lots better...pay good attention to just what

you're responding to and why.

i could tell a story from close personal experience where multiple

high-dollar high-rep specialists were either corrupt (a couple for sure) or

couldn't see outside the narrow scope of their specialties to figure out

what a family GP pinned correctly right away based on a 5 minute

conversation. but i won't take the time, it was a female problem not hep.

> Treatment

>

>

> I take issue with the implication that all doctors are out for the

> bucks. With health insurance these days, their fees are controlled

> by the plans they are connected to as PPOs usually. My gastro

> doctor gave me the choice of biopsy or not. He has been to all the

> conferences and most doctors push for biopsies. He feels that at

> whatever stage you are, having a biopsy isn't going to change how

> you will be treated. Also, there are small but significant risks

> such as bleeding internally. He also put treatment at my

> discretion. Since I am 1a and the possibility for success is 50% I

> thought I'd skip it. I was just going to go along " tra-la " but my

> GP burst that bubble. She strongly recommended that I take the

> treatment. So I'm starting in June after my trip to Italy. I vow

> to not have that shadow cloud my enjoyment. I can just eat all I

> want and have a weight-loss plan waiting for me when I get back.

>

> Seriously, I'm nervous about the treatment as I live alone and need

> to work. But my bosses are understanding and will give me a lighter

> load if I need it. One big help is keeping a positive outlook--you

> might get lucky & be the exception to the rule that all side effects

> will usually be awful.

>

> I found a website on Tuesday with testimonials from a number of

> individuals that explained their side effects in gruesome detail.

> But the underlying message is it's worth it--you felt awful but at

> the end, you're proud you did it. You endured. Keep fixed on that

> light at the end of the tunnel.

>

> Try these sites:

> http://www.hepatitis-c.de/ourstory.htm

> http://www.hepatitis-c.de/linkse.htm

> http://www.hepcchallenge.org/

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & amp;

> communities. Links

>

>

>

>

>

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response to tx at about 50%, then about (50% or less?) of those stay clear

for awhile. not sure about the latest figures for newer formulations, but

still odds of both getting clear and staying that way for more than a couple

years are, i think, about 1:4 at best. then there's the possibility of

sustained and possibly permanent damage and sides from the tx drugs.

if a biopsy probe happens to hit a cancer tumor cells can escape and instant

metastasis occurs. if it doesn't hit it, then the biopsy won't tell that it

exists. i've read two personal accounts in the last several months of

people who had multiple biopsies, one 3 in the course of a few months, the

other 3 the same day, both persons were told results confirmed low to no

liver damage, both had need for surgery to gall bladder very shortly

afterward and the liver when exposed proved to be in late stage cirrhosis.

this tells me that the risk:benefit ratio of biopsy is questionable and

generally the reliability and accuracy of it is exaggerated on the good

side.

if using " alternative " treatment modalities it's possibly wiser to just

assume liver damage, cirrhosis, and cancer exist and treat for them to at

least some significant extent.

if going with the conventional usual approach to treatment, then usually one

must just dance to the tune of providers...sometimes a doc is found that

thinks ethically and independently as well as intelligently, and that's a

great find.

you might want to query the GP hard and feedback those answers to the

Gastro, then re-evaluate your decision. sometimes specialists opinions are

worth more, sometimes a GP is lots better...pay good attention to just what

you're responding to and why.

i could tell a story from close personal experience where multiple

high-dollar high-rep specialists were either corrupt (a couple for sure) or

couldn't see outside the narrow scope of their specialties to figure out

what a family GP pinned correctly right away based on a 5 minute

conversation. but i won't take the time, it was a female problem not hep.

> Treatment

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> I take issue with the implication that all doctors are out for the

> bucks. With health insurance these days, their fees are controlled

> by the plans they are connected to as PPOs usually. My gastro

> doctor gave me the choice of biopsy or not. He has been to all the

> conferences and most doctors push for biopsies. He feels that at

> whatever stage you are, having a biopsy isn't going to change how

> you will be treated. Also, there are small but significant risks

> such as bleeding internally. He also put treatment at my

> discretion. Since I am 1a and the possibility for success is 50% I

> thought I'd skip it. I was just going to go along " tra-la " but my

> GP burst that bubble. She strongly recommended that I take the

> treatment. So I'm starting in June after my trip to Italy. I vow

> to not have that shadow cloud my enjoyment. I can just eat all I

> want and have a weight-loss plan waiting for me when I get back.

>

> Seriously, I'm nervous about the treatment as I live alone and need

> to work. But my bosses are understanding and will give me a lighter

> load if I need it. One big help is keeping a positive outlook--you

> might get lucky & be the exception to the rule that all side effects

> will usually be awful.

>

> I found a website on Tuesday with testimonials from a number of

> individuals that explained their side effects in gruesome detail.

> But the underlying message is it's worth it--you felt awful but at

> the end, you're proud you did it. You endured. Keep fixed on that

> light at the end of the tunnel.

>

> Try these sites:

> http://www.hepatitis-c.de/ourstory.htm

> http://www.hepatitis-c.de/linkse.htm

> http://www.hepcchallenge.org/

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> - Join or create groups, clubs, forums & amp;

> communities. Links

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You are lucky its genotyoe 2, I have type 1A. Should be going on tx starting

this wednesday. Someone in group should be able to answer your questions about

tx. Pat

juniper1958 <t_rymer@...> wrote: Hi everyone....I've only

posted a couple of times...I was waiting to

see how all my tests came out. Found out Wednesday that I will be

taking treatments, but only for 6 months. I'm genotype 2b, Stage 1. The

doc says this will be a piece of cake, but I've heard so many horrible

stories about side effects. Just wanting to know how some of ya'll did

and maybe some advice on what I should or should not do concerning

nutrition etc. Any help will be appreciated....Tina

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You are lucky its genotyoe 2, I have type 1A. Should be going on tx starting

this wednesday. Someone in group should be able to answer your questions about

tx. Pat

juniper1958 <t_rymer@...> wrote: Hi everyone....I've only

posted a couple of times...I was waiting to

see how all my tests came out. Found out Wednesday that I will be

taking treatments, but only for 6 months. I'm genotype 2b, Stage 1. The

doc says this will be a piece of cake, but I've heard so many horrible

stories about side effects. Just wanting to know how some of ya'll did

and maybe some advice on what I should or should not do concerning

nutrition etc. Any help will be appreciated....Tina

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