stomach pain

[Guest guest]

Adrienne's Mom,

Thanks for the update. I'm so glad she has good docs. I hope the scope

provides some definitive answers and I hope the diet recommendations work

really well.

Janet in SF

[Guest guest]

-,

Hayden always has severe stomach pain. As a matter of fact that is

how I know it is coming. He says his stomach hurts and sure enough

he fevers that night. Lots of fluids seem to help Hayden, mostly

water. He also gets horrible bowel movements. The smell is

horrible so I am sure the pain has to do with that. Maybe Drew will

change his patterns in the next episode. Don't get disappointed,

you never know, maybe it was so close to the episode that it was in

the works already.

Keep your chin up the T & A couldn't have been a bad thing for him.

He may have a virus, we are so used to it being that we assume

that is what it is. He could have picked something up in the

hospital that just now has come out. Maybe he is sick like all

other kids get. What a concept. Oh by the way Strep usually takes

about that long to manifest itself.

Good luck,

California

Mom to Hayden 3-- In , " jlb2720022000 "

<babineauj@c...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> I think I have seen some postings about stomach pain in the past..

> but just a question-

> Drew had his tonsillectomy Sept 1. After 2 weeks, he seemed to be

> recovered and had an appt with the ENT last thurs (day 15 post

op).

> They said his throat was completely healed- no more scabs. That

> night, he started running a fever, and has run off and on since-

> usually 103-104 at night. He was complaining about his stomach, I

> thought maybe he had a little stomach virus. But the fever

> persisted, and he just keeps telling me he feels " sick " or " I

don't

> feel good " . This afternoon he woke up from a nap screaming in

pain

> saying his stomach and throat hurt. I looked in his mouth, and he

> has canker sores in the back of his throat. Do some kids get

> stomach pain? Anything that you can do about it? If his fever

> persists tomorrow, I'll take him to the doctors, but I'm pretty

sure

> he's having an episode. The fever doesn't usually stay high for

> this long, usually he's high for 2-3 days but we're on day 4 now.

I

> am disappointed, I thought that the tonsillectomy would help the

> throat issue. But maybe it will help in that he won't swell like

he

> did before.

> Thanks,

>

> mom to Drew, age 2 3/4

> town RI

[Guest guest]

-,

Hayden always has severe stomach pain. As a matter of fact that is

how I know it is coming. He says his stomach hurts and sure enough

he fevers that night. Lots of fluids seem to help Hayden, mostly

water. He also gets horrible bowel movements. The smell is

horrible so I am sure the pain has to do with that. Maybe Drew will

change his patterns in the next episode. Don't get disappointed,

you never know, maybe it was so close to the episode that it was in

the works already.

Keep your chin up the T & A couldn't have been a bad thing for him.

He may have a virus, we are so used to it being that we assume

that is what it is. He could have picked something up in the

hospital that just now has come out. Maybe he is sick like all

other kids get. What a concept. Oh by the way Strep usually takes

about that long to manifest itself.

Good luck,

California

Mom to Hayden 3-- In , " jlb2720022000 "

<babineauj@c...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> I think I have seen some postings about stomach pain in the past..

> but just a question-

> Drew had his tonsillectomy Sept 1. After 2 weeks, he seemed to be

> recovered and had an appt with the ENT last thurs (day 15 post

op).

> They said his throat was completely healed- no more scabs. That

> night, he started running a fever, and has run off and on since-

> usually 103-104 at night. He was complaining about his stomach, I

> thought maybe he had a little stomach virus. But the fever

> persisted, and he just keeps telling me he feels " sick " or " I

don't

> feel good " . This afternoon he woke up from a nap screaming in

pain

> saying his stomach and throat hurt. I looked in his mouth, and he

> has canker sores in the back of his throat. Do some kids get

> stomach pain? Anything that you can do about it? If his fever

> persists tomorrow, I'll take him to the doctors, but I'm pretty

sure

> he's having an episode. The fever doesn't usually stay high for

> this long, usually he's high for 2-3 days but we're on day 4 now.

I

> am disappointed, I thought that the tonsillectomy would help the

> throat issue. But maybe it will help in that he won't swell like

he

> did before.

> Thanks,

>

> mom to Drew, age 2 3/4

> town RI

[Guest guest]

My daughter gets stomach pain with episodes sometimes severe sometimes mild.

When it gets bad we put her in the bath or offer her the heating pad which is

what she has come to prefer. the heating pad must help because she asks for it

now when she has stomach pain. Tylenol also provides her some relief. I have

never tried Motrin because she also has severe reflux and I don't want to risk

it upsetting her stomach more.

Christy

Mom to 4 y/o

Missouri Valley Ia

>>> babineauj@... 09/19/04 07:11PM >>>

Hi Everyone,

I think I have seen some postings about stomach pain in the past..

but just a question-

Drew had his tonsillectomy Sept 1. After 2 weeks, he seemed to be

recovered and had an appt with the ENT last thurs (day 15 post op).

They said his throat was completely healed- no more scabs. That

night, he started running a fever, and has run off and on since-

usually 103-104 at night. He was complaining about his stomach, I

thought maybe he had a little stomach virus. But the fever

persisted, and he just keeps telling me he feels " sick " or " I don't

feel good " . This afternoon he woke up from a nap screaming in pain

saying his stomach and throat hurt. I looked in his mouth, and he

has canker sores in the back of his throat. Do some kids get

stomach pain? Anything that you can do about it? If his fever

persists tomorrow, I'll take him to the doctors, but I'm pretty sure

he's having an episode. The fever doesn't usually stay high for

this long, usually he's high for 2-3 days but we're on day 4 now. I

am disappointed, I thought that the tonsillectomy would help the

throat issue. But maybe it will help in that he won't swell like he

did before.

Thanks,

mom to Drew, age 2 3/4

town RI

[Guest guest]

My daughter gets stomach pain with episodes sometimes severe sometimes mild.

When it gets bad we put her in the bath or offer her the heating pad which is

what she has come to prefer. the heating pad must help because she asks for it

now when she has stomach pain. Tylenol also provides her some relief. I have

never tried Motrin because she also has severe reflux and I don't want to risk

it upsetting her stomach more.

Christy

Mom to 4 y/o

Missouri Valley Ia

>>> babineauj@... 09/19/04 07:11PM >>>

Hi Everyone,

I think I have seen some postings about stomach pain in the past..

but just a question-

Drew had his tonsillectomy Sept 1. After 2 weeks, he seemed to be

recovered and had an appt with the ENT last thurs (day 15 post op).

They said his throat was completely healed- no more scabs. That

night, he started running a fever, and has run off and on since-

usually 103-104 at night. He was complaining about his stomach, I

thought maybe he had a little stomach virus. But the fever

persisted, and he just keeps telling me he feels " sick " or " I don't

feel good " . This afternoon he woke up from a nap screaming in pain

saying his stomach and throat hurt. I looked in his mouth, and he

has canker sores in the back of his throat. Do some kids get

stomach pain? Anything that you can do about it? If his fever

persists tomorrow, I'll take him to the doctors, but I'm pretty sure

he's having an episode. The fever doesn't usually stay high for

this long, usually he's high for 2-3 days but we're on day 4 now. I

am disappointed, I thought that the tonsillectomy would help the

throat issue. But maybe it will help in that he won't swell like he

did before.

Thanks,

mom to Drew, age 2 3/4

town RI

[Guest guest]

Kiara had severe stomach pains in what they thought was her last episode. At

this point they thought maybe it was FMF and was put on cochicine. After 5 days

of being sick and coming home.. I took her back in as she spiked to 106. And the

tummy pain was severe. When I took her back in we were rushed into the childrens

hospital. They brought in a second surgeon who sent her for a CT scan and they

still couldnt see her appendix. She was diagnosed that evening with a missed

perforated appendix. She had to be medicated for 21 days due to severe infection

and risking perforating the bowels. When they took it out they were able to

determine that it had perforated over and over again. They figure when she was

22 months with what they thought was kd that it was appendiciits. Only genetics

will tell us if it is more now.. Kiara is allergic to NSAIDS and advil which is

the fever breaker i like most with her and cant give so at this point im glad to

have some reprieve

VAnessa Mom to Kiara age 4

kristian age 2.5 and kraig 14 on friday

Re: Stomach pain

My daughter gets stomach pain with episodes sometimes severe sometimes mild.

When it gets bad we put her in the bath or offer her the heating pad which is

what she has come to prefer. the heating pad must help because she asks for it

now when she has stomach pain. Tylenol also provides her some relief. I have

never tried Motrin because she also has severe reflux and I don't want to risk

it upsetting her stomach more.

Christy

Mom to 4 y/o

Missouri Valley Ia

>>> babineauj@... 09/19/04 07:11PM >>>

Hi Everyone,

I think I have seen some postings about stomach pain in the past..

but just a question-

Drew had his tonsillectomy Sept 1. After 2 weeks, he seemed to be

recovered and had an appt with the ENT last thurs (day 15 post op).

They said his throat was completely healed- no more scabs. That

night, he started running a fever, and has run off and on since-

usually 103-104 at night. He was complaining about his stomach, I

thought maybe he had a little stomach virus. But the fever

persisted, and he just keeps telling me he feels " sick " or " I don't

feel good " . This afternoon he woke up from a nap screaming in pain

saying his stomach and throat hurt. I looked in his mouth, and he

has canker sores in the back of his throat. Do some kids get

stomach pain? Anything that you can do about it? If his fever

persists tomorrow, I'll take him to the doctors, but I'm pretty sure

he's having an episode. The fever doesn't usually stay high for

this long, usually he's high for 2-3 days but we're on day 4 now. I

am disappointed, I thought that the tonsillectomy would help the

throat issue. But maybe it will help in that he won't swell like he

did before.

Thanks,

mom to Drew, age 2 3/4

town RI

[Guest guest]

Kiara had severe stomach pains in what they thought was her last episode. At

this point they thought maybe it was FMF and was put on cochicine. After 5 days

of being sick and coming home.. I took her back in as she spiked to 106. And the

tummy pain was severe. When I took her back in we were rushed into the childrens

hospital. They brought in a second surgeon who sent her for a CT scan and they

still couldnt see her appendix. She was diagnosed that evening with a missed

perforated appendix. She had to be medicated for 21 days due to severe infection

and risking perforating the bowels. When they took it out they were able to

determine that it had perforated over and over again. They figure when she was

22 months with what they thought was kd that it was appendiciits. Only genetics

will tell us if it is more now.. Kiara is allergic to NSAIDS and advil which is

the fever breaker i like most with her and cant give so at this point im glad to

have some reprieve

VAnessa Mom to Kiara age 4

kristian age 2.5 and kraig 14 on friday

Re: Stomach pain

My daughter gets stomach pain with episodes sometimes severe sometimes mild.

When it gets bad we put her in the bath or offer her the heating pad which is

what she has come to prefer. the heating pad must help because she asks for it

now when she has stomach pain. Tylenol also provides her some relief. I have

never tried Motrin because she also has severe reflux and I don't want to risk

it upsetting her stomach more.

Christy

Mom to 4 y/o

Missouri Valley Ia

>>> babineauj@... 09/19/04 07:11PM >>>

Hi Everyone,

I think I have seen some postings about stomach pain in the past..

but just a question-

Drew had his tonsillectomy Sept 1. After 2 weeks, he seemed to be

recovered and had an appt with the ENT last thurs (day 15 post op).

They said his throat was completely healed- no more scabs. That

night, he started running a fever, and has run off and on since-

usually 103-104 at night. He was complaining about his stomach, I

thought maybe he had a little stomach virus. But the fever

persisted, and he just keeps telling me he feels " sick " or " I don't

feel good " . This afternoon he woke up from a nap screaming in pain

saying his stomach and throat hurt. I looked in his mouth, and he

has canker sores in the back of his throat. Do some kids get

stomach pain? Anything that you can do about it? If his fever

persists tomorrow, I'll take him to the doctors, but I'm pretty sure

he's having an episode. The fever doesn't usually stay high for

this long, usually he's high for 2-3 days but we're on day 4 now. I

am disappointed, I thought that the tonsillectomy would help the

throat issue. But maybe it will help in that he won't swell like he

did before.

Thanks,

mom to Drew, age 2 3/4

town RI

[Guest guest]

Hi all, from Florida here.5 years out

I also for the past few years since I had my Gall bladder out have suffered

the worst debilitating pain in my life. So many times as I was fumbling

through the cabinets doubled over looking for another pill any pill to help me

pass

out, die or take the pain away wondered what the heck is going on. I

unfortunately did not have insurance cause once you have gastric by-pass it's

hard to

get anyone to carry you. Or I would have gone to the E.R.

I have been having test since my last episode where I did get taken by

ambulance ti the hospital. My Blood pressure was way up and my daily norm is

90/60

for years now and it was 150/?? can't remember. They gave me fluids when I got

there and upon telling them if the pain persist I would rather be dead they

shot me up with the best pain med I ever experienced. Delodid or something like

that. First time in years after the onset of these pains I didn't have to be

in pain for 3-10 hours straight. It was great. They ran a few basic test and

released me. I since have had an upper G.I -Pipada scan-CT scan and now IM going

in for an endoscopey. So far all have been normal but some acid reflux. We

are beating our heads on what the pain is. Im thinking the doctor thinks I just

want drugs because he has mentioned pain clinic to me. Well that sound good

but I feel pain is caused by something and I would like to know that cause. I

cry thinking we won't find something wrong and I can't stand such bad pain. I

can't work the next day or day I have the pain cause I am doubled over in these

strange positions so it has not been good on my employment. Im truing to see

if I can hook up with Dr. R while he's down in Orlando to see if he has any

insights to the cause of this pain. I was wondering if it could be the old

stomach that is cut away getting sick or dying? I mentioned that to one of the

Dr.

at the hospital and just listened but I don't think they understood.

Anyway long story Sorry

Im a skinny twig and getting thinner cause of this stuff. Don't want to loose

anymore. Im in a size 2 now and would like to get back into a 6.

Hope this helps.

Love,, from Florida

[Guest guest]

,

Have you been tested for the H. Pylori bacteria? It will cause you to have a

tremendous amount of stomach pain that can even radiate to your back as well.

If you contact Dr. R, he will call you in the meds to take. The bacteria is

killed with aggressive antibiotics. The bad thing is its somewhere between

$400-500 if you don't have insurance. I would really get tested though. I hope

this

helps.

Carmen In Atlanta

[Guest guest]

Hi Carmen, I have been tested for the H-pylori. IM O.K as far as that goes.

I do have insurance now so I will just keep getting tested till we find the

cause. Hopefully find the cause.

Thanks, I will be fine.

Sincerely,

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I will check on it.

-- Re: Stomach Pain

,

Have you been tested for the H. Pylori bacteria? It will cause you to have a

tremendous amount of stomach pain that can even radiate to your back as well

If you contact Dr. R, he will call you in the meds to take. The bacteria is

killed with aggressive antibiotics. The bad thing is its somewhere between

$400-500 if you don't have insurance. I would really get tested though. I

hope this

helps.

Carmen In Atlanta

[Guest guest]

Hi Trisha,

I assume that it's a constant battle going on with the yeast trying to

survive and cheating causes it to worsen, but trying to eradicate it

does too. It's like sometimes the symptoms of it dying or growing can

be really similar. I reckon, depending on how deep the problem is,

this could go on for weeks at a time until the battle is finally won.

I could be wrong though. The stomach pain might be due to something

else, but could be the yeast in the gut. I have had it when I've

cheated by eating some fruit or too much grain and then later, I get

gurgling in my gut and finally by the next day, the pains will increase

and then I lose my appetite again and become very tired. Then, when

I've toughened up again, I can have the pains continue, with no

appetite, until finally things begin to reduce again and then I begin

to crave like crazy, almost like starving as though the battle is again

on. The pains then reduce, but then they come and go the entire time

I'm craving. It's very odd. I think once you reach the point of being

very hungry, that is the time the battle is really raging and to keep

going and not give in, otherwise you feel you have to start over. I do

not know how long that stage goes on for and assuming it might be

different for each person depending on how deep seated the gut problem

is.

Just a thought.

.

>

> Hi Bee -

>

> I have been having more stomach pain lately, although I've been

having less bloating. I can't

> figure out if its something I'm eating or is this healing? I can't

seem to figure out a pattern.

> Sometimes I think red meat does it, but other times I'm fine when I

eat it. Do you have any

> thoughts or suggestions?

>

> Thanks also for all of the info contained in the files. I am

learning so much from reading

> everything!

> Trish

>

[Guest guest]

Trish wrote:

>

> Hi Bee - I have been having more stomach pain lately, although I've

been having less bloating. I can't figure out if its something I'm

eating or is this healing? I can't seem to figure out a pattern.

> Sometimes I think red meat does it, but other times I'm fine when I

eat it. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions?

==>Like wrote the stomach itself has candida in it, as well as

the esophagus, which can cause a lot of stomach upset and pain.

Candida growth in the esophagus actually causes acid reflux because it

weakens the valve that is supposed to close, but can't so it causes

heart burn. When the candida is being killed off in the stomach it

puts out toxins (mostly alcohol) so you get a sicker stomach, like the

sick feeling a person gets after drinking alcohol. My stomach was so

bad when I started on nystatin that I could only eat 9 foods in the

whole world, which I figured out were the lowest in carbs &

unadulterated, and I had been on the diet 6 mos. at that time. You can

read about it in the files " Bee's Personal Candida Story. "

==>Stomach pains are also caused by not enough stomach acid, which is

very common with candida - see the Digestion Folder on how to test

stomach acid levels, and about taking digestive enzymes. It is very

important for digestion to have enough stomach acid. Protein actually

increases stomach acid, so red meat wouldn't be causing a problem.

==>Good fats, oils and meats or eggs are the very easiest foods for the

body to digest, as opposed to any carbs of any kind (carbs are all

foods that are not classified as protein or fats). If you are getting

good organic or certified organic meats do not cook them thoroughly so

they still contain some enzymes which help with digestion. Also taking

some coconut oil, which hasn't been cooked with meats helps digestion.

==>A quick fix for stomach pain is to take baking soda in water (about

1 tsp. in 6 ounces of warm water) - sip slowly until the pain

subsides. Your pancreas excretes bicarbonate of soda to alkalize the

contents from the stomach - it is stimulated by the amount of acid in

the chyme from the stomach.

>

> Thanks also for all of the info contained in the files. I am

learning so much from reading everything!

==>You are so very welcome Trish. Learning is the key!! Good for you.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Trish

I just wanted to add two other possibilities to the suggestions

others have given you for probable causes of stomach pain, not to

alarm you but to share something of my experience in case it helps.

Candida has certainly been the cause of many of my health issues,

most of which have disappeared, thank goodness, as I've gotten

candida under control. But there are also other functional gastric

disorders that I have been diagnosed with, that cause stomach and

abdominal pain and nausea and bloating.

One possibility is that you might be one of the people with an

oversensitive gastrointestinal tract. Medical research claims that

only 10% of the population have this issue, but I suspect the numbers

are higher. My gastroenterologist informed me that I have this

condition. It was a whole lot worse when I was first coping with my

candida overgrowth. With an oversensitive GI tract you feel the

normal digestive movements magnified to the point of pain. It's

worrying, of course, at first. My gastroenterologist spent time with

me explaining what GI pains I would feel and where that are actually

normal for me, now, and what to worry about if the pains persist.

Now I just accept a certain amount of twinges and abdominal pain in

varying locations, usually near the stomach and bile ducts though, as

part of digestion. The more difficult a food is to digest, the worse

the pain; or so it feels to me.

Is your abdominal pain actually centered just below the stomach,

closer to your navel; quite severe at times; often spreads out to

include most of the upper abdominal region; feels more like a

pressure and a vibration; and persists for hours following each

meal? You don't mention severe pain, so I'm guessing you don't have

this. But, just in case, there is a functional disorder called

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction, where the Sphincter of Oddi, located

just below the stomach, goes into spasms and stops or significantly

slows down in it's job of mixing bile from the bile ducts with the

chyme from the stomach and moving it into the duodenum and on it's

way through the intestines. I have this too. I've learned to keep

the symptoms minimal through diet (certain foods and supplements

trigger the spasms), but it adds another layer of pain and nausea to

normal digestion for me.

As I said, I'm not trying to worry you. Just wanted to offer two

additional possibilities in case you find your pains persist. It

took me 6 months to find a gastroenterologist who was willing to

order the tests to confirm my gastric disorders; and I feel lucky at

finding someone that fast....

Kim M.

usually lurking...

>

> Hi Bee -

>

> I have been having more stomach pain lately, although I've been

having less bloating. I can't

> figure out if its something I'm eating or is this healing? I can't

seem to figure out a pattern.

> Sometimes I think red meat does it, but other times I'm fine when I

eat it. Do you have any

> thoughts or suggestions?

>

> Thanks also for all of the info contained in the files. I am

learning so much from reading

> everything!

> Trish

>

[Guest guest]

Bee wrote:

> My stomach was so

> bad when I started on nystatin that I could only eat 9 foods in the

> whole world, which I figured out were the lowest in carbs &

> unadulterated, and I had been on the diet 6 mos. at that time. You can

> read about it in the files " Bee's Personal Candida Story. "

I am curious, could you tolerate raw veggies? Or was everything cooked?

>

> ==>Stomach pains are also caused by not enough stomach acid, which is

> very common with candida - see the Digestion Folder on how to test

> stomach acid levels, and about taking digestive enzymes. It is very

> important for digestion to have enough stomach acid. Protein actually

> increases stomach acid, so red meat wouldn't be causing a problem.

I had been taking digestive enzymes, but ran out, so maybe that is part of the

problem.

Although the pain didn't correspond exactly with that.

>

> ==>Good fats, oils and meats or eggs are the very easiest foods for the

> body to digest, as opposed to any carbs of any kind (carbs are all

> foods that are not classified as protein or fats). If you are getting

> good organic or certified organic meats do not cook them thoroughly so

> they still contain some enzymes which help with digestion. Also taking

> some coconut oil, which hasn't been cooked with meats helps digestion.

Okay, I will try this with my meat.

>

> ==>A quick fix for stomach pain is to take baking soda in water (about

> 1 tsp. in 6 ounces of warm water) - sip slowly until the pain

> subsides. Your pancreas excretes bicarbonate of soda to alkalize the

> contents from the stomach - it is stimulated by the amount of acid in

> the chyme from the stomach.

I tried the baking soda water yesterday, but I had the opposite reaction. My

stomach hurt

so much worse and I got nauseaus. I read some more in the files about stomach

acid and

saw that that lowers stomach acid. So maybe low stomach acid is my problem.

After that

I drank some more lemon/sea salt drink and that seemed to help. Is this

strange? I can

try the " official " stomach acid test tomorrow morning.

Thanks so much for your help!

Trish

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>>

> I assume that it's a constant battle going on with the yeast trying to

> survive and cheating causes it to worsen, but trying to eradicate it

> does too. It's like sometimes the symptoms of it dying or growing can

> be really similar. I reckon, depending on how deep the problem is,

> this could go on for weeks at a time until the battle is finally won.

> I could be wrong though. The stomach pain might be due to something

> else, but could be the yeast in the gut.

I do think you're right , it is the yeast. It just confuses me how it

comes and goes.

I have had it when I've

> cheated by eating some fruit or too much grain and then later, I get

> gurgling in my gut and finally by the next day, the pains will increase

> and then I lose my appetite again and become very tired. Then, when

> I've toughened up again, I can have the pains continue, with no

> appetite, until finally things begin to reduce again and then I begin

> to crave like crazy, almost like starving as though the battle is again

> on. The pains then reduce, but then they come and go the entire time

> I'm craving. It's very odd. I think once you reach the point of being

> very hungry, that is the time the battle is really raging and to keep

> going and not give in, otherwise you feel you have to start over. I do

> not know how long that stage goes on for and assuming it might be

> different for each person depending on how deep seated the gut problem

> is.

That is interesting the cycle that goes on. I have experienced it to some

degree. Although

I have been so good with my diet and I think that is why it is discouraging.

And prior to

getting very strict, there were lots of things not on this candida diet that I

could eat

without my stomach hurting. So I am sort of hoping that as Bee said it is the

yeast dying

off. That would be the best thing! Thanks so much for your input.

Trish

>

>Trish

[Guest guest]

>

>> I just wanted to add two other possibilities to the suggestions

> others have given you for probable causes of stomach pain, not to

> alarm you but to share something of my experience in case it helps.

> Candida has certainly been the cause of many of my health issues,

> most of which have disappeared, thank goodness, as I've gotten

> candida under control. But there are also other functional gastric

> disorders that I have been diagnosed with, that cause stomach and

> abdominal pain and nausea and bloating.

Don't worry! This does not alarm me, although I am certainly hoping that it all

goes away

when my candida goes away. I only worry about it being stomach cancer or

something

like that.

>

> One possibility is that you might be one of the people with an

> oversensitive gastrointestinal tract. Medical research claims that

> only 10% of the population have this issue, but I suspect the numbers

> are higher. My gastroenterologist informed me that I have this

> condition. It was a whole lot worse when I was first coping with my

> candida overgrowth. With an oversensitive GI tract you feel the

> normal digestive movements magnified to the point of pain. It's

> worrying, of course, at first. My gastroenterologist spent time with

> me explaining what GI pains I would feel and where that are actually

> normal for me, now, and what to worry about if the pains persist.

> Now I just accept a certain amount of twinges and abdominal pain in

> varying locations, usually near the stomach and bile ducts though, as

> part of digestion. The more difficult a food is to digest, the worse

> the pain; or so it feels to me.

>

I have definitely always been sensitive to foods, although it has always seemed

to be food

specific, so this leads me to believe the yeast is the root cause.

> Is your abdominal pain actually centered just below the stomach,

> closer to your navel; quite severe at times; often spreads out to

> include most of the upper abdominal region; feels more like a

> pressure and a vibration; and persists for hours following each

> meal? You don't mention severe pain, so I'm guessing you don't have

> this. But, just in case, there is a functional disorder called

> Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction, where the Sphincter of Oddi, located

> just below the stomach, goes into spasms and stops or significantly

> slows down in it's job of mixing bile from the bile ducts with the

> chyme from the stomach and moving it into the duodenum and on it's

> way through the intestines. I have this too. I've learned to keep

> the symptoms minimal through diet (certain foods and supplements

> trigger the spasms), but it adds another layer of pain and nausea to

> normal digestion for me.

>

Yes, that is where the pain is, although it is only severe very occasionally.

Usually its just

uncomfortable. And I can go whole weeks without it. Thus the confusion. I

will definitely

keep some of these other things in mind, though.

Thanks so much!

Trish

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My stomach was so bad when I started on nystatin that I

could only eat 9 foods in the whole world, which I figured out were

the lowest in carbs & unadulterated, and I had been on the diet 6

mos. at that time. You can read about it in the files " Bee's

Personal Candida Story. "

>

> I am curious, could you tolerate raw veggies? Or was everything

cooked?

++++I could have raw tomatoes, but everything else was cooked.

> > ==>Stomach pains are also caused by not enough stomach acid,

which is very common with candida - see the Digestion Folder on how

to test stomach acid levels, and about taking digestive enzymes. It

is very important for digestion to have enough stomach acid. Protein

actually increases stomach acid, so red meat wouldn't be causing a

problem.

<snip>

> I tried the baking soda water yesterday, but I had the opposite

reaction. My stomach hurt so much worse and I got nauseaus. I read

some more in the files about stomach acid and saw that that lowers

stomach acid. So maybe low stomach acid is my problem. After that

> I drank some more lemon/sea salt drink and that seemed to help. Is

this strange? I can try the " official " stomach acid test tomorrow

morning.

==>Interesting. Low acid may be the problem for sure!

Bee

[Guest guest]

Glad your feeling better!!

You could also try Maalox Max liquid anti-gas, antacid. This is a great choice for newbies as well. A great Memorial day to you too!

Dana

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "vstarrme" <vstarrme@...> I just wanted everyone to know that the solution to my stomach pain ended up being relatively simple. I guess even when you don't drink soda, or other things that give you gas, it can still build up in your body after a period of time. My doctor advised me to take Gas X...which is something Dr. A advises, and it worked like a charm and I'm back to my normal self. I am five months out from surgery, so I was worried, because I hadn't had pain like that in my shoulder since my surgery, but it ended up being fine. I hope you all have a great Memorial Day Weekend with all your skinny selves!!!!Vesper

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Hi Jenni,

I don't know if this is any consolation to you, but I went through a

healing crisis once and had continual (what seemed to be) urinary

tract infections. In fact, it was so bad, it drove me crazy. I

would be sitting on the toilet half the night, wanting to urinate,

but hardly a thing would come out (not to mention the discomfort). I

was actually going through a healing crisis, as I had been detoxing

and didn't recognise this for what it was, until after and then

improvement set in. I have read that it can be toxins being shunted

through those areas. However, I only read that over the internet and

it's an area where I could not hope to give a qualified or

knowledgeable opinion, but for me? I believe it was a healing crisis

at that time.

I don't know about your stomach pains though and I'm sure Bee will

give you a much clearer idea, but the urinary tract infection caught

my attention.

.

>

I have been having more stomach pain lately. I have been

experimenting

> with lemon juice and HCL tablets but they don't seem to help; in

fact,

> after the lemon juice today my stomach seemed worse. Could this be

an

> ulcer?

> Thanks-Jenni Grant

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been having more stomach pain lately. I have been

experimenting with lemon juice and HCL tablets but they don't seem

to help; in fact, after the lemon juice today my stomach seemed

worse.

==>Some candida sufferers cannot even have a small amount of lemon.

Wait until later on to have the electrolyte drink and ensure you are

taking digestive enzymes, i.e. Betaine HCl with pepsin and

pancreatic enzymes. Do a site search on my for digestion - there's

an entire section - where you'll find how to take digestive enzymes:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com

> Could this be an ulcer? My husband wants me to go see a regular

doctor to get checked out. I have had gastro-intestinal problems for

5 years, mainly bloating and gas. Since I have been on this diet,

the bloating is much better but now I have this stomach pain

worsening and also am having to fend off urinary tract symptoms (my

back hurts some; perhaps my kidneys?) I have read the files

regarding these issues, and have followed the suggestions

> regarding the UTI and looked into the stomach acid issue. I wonder

if my body is struggling to digest the increased protein

==>You need plenty of fats to aid digestion, and particularly to

digest protein, both per the ratios I recommend, and add ocean sea

salt to your foods after cooking too, which also helps digestion.

Also have 1 tbl sauerkraut or kimchi with every meal to aid

digestion.

==>On this diet you are killing off candida in your stomach and your

symptoms will increase. Also gas and bloating are caused by killed

candida which puts out carbon dioxide. It's not a bad thing but not

easy to deal with. To ease stomach pain either drink ginger tea or

chew on raw ginger and/or fennel seeds, or take 1 tsp of baking soda

in warm water.

==>You can also have candida in your bladder. The parsley tea

suggestion is the best, but sticking to the program also helps.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> ==>Some candida sufferers cannot even have a small amount of lemon.

> Wait until later on to have the electrolyte drink and ensure you are

> taking digestive enzymes, i.e. Betaine HCl with pepsin and

> pancreatic enzymes. Do a site search on my for digestion - there's

> an entire section - where you'll find how to take digestive enzymes:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com

Is it possible that too much stomach acid is the issue? Sometimes when I

have stomach pain/heart burn, more acid makes things worse whereas baking

soda in water with soothe things for me.

in IN

[Guest guest]

> Is it possible that too much stomach acid is the issue? Sometimes

when I have stomach pain/heart burn, more acid makes things worse

whereas baking soda in water with soothe things for me.

==>Candida sufferers usually have low stomach acid, and whether your

stomach acid is high or low baking soda helps it (I do not know why),

and so does sauerkraut. To test stomach acid levels do a search at:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi: Actually I wanted to make a comment regarding urinary tract issues. Some

years ago I began to have problems in this area so , went to the doctor, I was

put through the usual gamut of tests, scopes, antibiotics, anti-bacteriacides.

urine tests, etc., ad nauseum. I kept saying, " But all the tests come back

normal, there must be something else wrong', Their answer was always, " Well,

we'll put you on these meds, just in case.' Anyway to make a long story

short, I decided to investigate myself, and found out I was very sensitive to

the Nightshade family of foods (potato, tomato, peppers,etc.), and the squash

family. But here is the BIG one !!! I found out I was (and still am), very

allergic/sensitive to Red Dyes! Any foodstuffs with dyes that range from

pinks to browns and maroons I cannot tolerate! They are all numbered now but I

very carefully scan the ingredient list. I would have all the agonising

symptoms of a urinary tract infection, including

severe, lower abdominal pains. Hope this helps someone. If you want to know

more let me know. I find it very interesting that many women on HRT have this

issue and are on a medication that contains red dye, but are being diagnosed as

having interstitial cystitis despite the tests coning back negative.!!!

Marjorie

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>

> Hi Bee, I doing pretty well getting over the flu (so far has lasted 4

> weeks) but I am wondering about my continued weightloss and

hairloss.

> Also my stomach pains. My weight is down to 122 and I'm 5'9 " and my

> hairloss seems to be more increasing with this flu. Also, is it a

> sign of die-off when you eat shrimp and spinach with butter and

> coconut oil and watercrease and sea salt and about 2 hours later your

> stomach hurts alot? I took the baking soda like was suggested and it

> didn't seem to help.

==>Do not be too concerned about your weight, and as you progress on

this program you hairloss will diminish and then stop. The flu you had

was a cleansing/healing reaction. I'd suspect the shrimp because they

usually contain sulphites or some other kind of perservative which

isn't always noted on the label. Try Bee's Egg Drink and see if you

have the same reactions, but ensure you don't add more butter and

coconut oil than you can handle. Also ensure you are doing everything

you can to improve your digestion - see the section " How to Improve

Digestion " in my main candida article. If all else fails I suggest you

do the 9-day program:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig6.php

Bee