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hiker102002 <bjeaton@...> wrote:I am new to the group...I am in

treatment for Candida,

naturopathically, but no one seems to know why I'm having such

stomach pain or how to treat it. I have not been able to reach my

actual dose to kill the candida (I am titrating the homeopathics up

each week) because it creates more stomach pain. Any suggestions?

It is a deep burning pain that, as it worsens, I must constantly hold

a pillow to my stomach and cannot eat.

Thanxs, Hiker102002

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Hi Ellen: I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I haven't

asked about the infection. It only seems to happen during die-off. I am

trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which helped

tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got some.

it will take a few days before I know if it will work. I hope that does it

if not I will have to check on the infection end. I just had another set of

tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe would

have caught it? At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will ask

her.

Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on at one

time. And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler. I am bent over

because of it but I'm still better than I was. Would you believe I was in

bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my 40's

to illness and quacks! I'm fighting back now!

Thanks again, Hiker102002

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Hi Hiker,

Is it possible that you have an ulcer and/or an H. pylori infection?

I have trouble getting lactobacillus to colonize and other opportunists

keep stepping in (staph, klebsiella). My health care fellow says that often

people have an H. pylori infection. My primary care physician did one type

of blood test for it, but my other guy specializes in allergy & he says

there are several markers to test for it.

A GI doc. can also do a biopsy during an endoscopy.

I wish you well in your search for answers. Stomach pain is miserable.

Ellen

Stomach pain

I am new to the group...I am in treatment for Candida,

naturopathically, but no one seems to know why I'm having such

stomach pain or how to treat it. I have not been able to reach my

actual dose to kill the candida (I am titrating the homeopathics up

each week) because it creates more stomach pain. Any suggestions?

It is a deep burning pain that, as it worsens, I must constantly hold

a pillow to my stomach and cannot eat.

Thanxs, Hiker102002

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Hi Joyce,

I guess it would depend on the lab & the tests. My doc. uses Great Smokies, but

apparently they don't catch H. pylori because he wanted me to have a GI person

test for it.

You might ask your naturopath about any other bacteria or parasites. The fact

that you only have the problem during die-off seems to indicate that's the

problem, but then again, any of these other problems would only make everything

worse, too.

Also, I'll just throw another thing out, though I don't know if your symptoms

are an indicator--could you have some sort of stomach muscle cramping problem?

One GI doc. thought I had that--still doing research on that. I'm allergic to a

lot of things & I think it messes up my GI tract. Maybe inflammation--maybe

irregular muscle movement, maybe both.

Good luck w/ the Min-Chex (I'll have to look that one up, too)--I hope you get

to re-claim your fifties.

Ellen

RE: Stomach pain

Hi Ellen: I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I haven't

asked about the infection. It only seems to happen during die-off. I am

trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which helped

tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got some.

it will take a few days before I know if it will work. I hope that does it

if not I will have to check on the infection end. I just had another set of

tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe would

have caught it? At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will ask

her.

Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on at one

time. And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler. I am bent over

because of it but I'm still better than I was. Would you believe I was in

bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my 40's

to illness and quacks! I'm fighting back now!

Thanks again, Hiker102002

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Hiker .....,

Can you tell me what tests your naturopath ran on you? I don't even know

where to find a specialist like this. I'm trying to research all of this

and treat myself, because I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Mic

> Hi Ellen:† I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I haven't

>asked about the infection.† It only seems to happen during die-off.† I am

>trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which helped

>tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got

>some.

>it will take a few days before I know if it will work.† I hope that does

>it

>if not I will have to check on the infection end.† I just had another set

>of

>tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe

>would

>have caught it?† At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will ask

>her.

>Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on at one

>time.† And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler.† I am bent over

>because of it but I'm still better than I was.† Would you believe I was in

>bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my 40's

>to illness and quacks!† I'm fighting back now!

>Thanks again, Hiker102002

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Hi Again Ellen:

You are so great to respond so quickly! Thank you so much...

I do have parasites, bacteria, viruses and all are being treated. I am

having colonics too and they are just the worst! The gal that does them

rarely has anyone who has as much trouble with them but I feel, towards the

last half or so, like I'm having a baby. UGH! The naturopath seems to think

it may have something to do with my spastic digestive system but the colon

gal says, " You have a hard time letting go of stuff. "

I have been back on the Min-Chex 3 days now(?) and my stomach pain is

better. So, for others out there battling this they might want to look it

up. I don't understand how the ingredients can really help but they do.

I've actually been able to up my treatment for the candida. Hope it

continues.

Calcium, Niacin, Vit. B6, Iodine, Potassium, Kelp, and a lot of bovine and

porcine stuff.

How long, once you are on the right dose for treatment, should it take to

get better? Is it normal to have all your old symptoms come back?

Thanks again, Joyce

Re: Stomach pain

Hi Joyce,

I guess it would depend on the lab & the tests. My doc. uses Great

Smokies, but apparently they don't catch H. pylori because he wanted me to

have a GI person test for it.

You might ask your naturopath about any other bacteria or parasites. The

fact that you only have the problem during die-off seems to indicate that's

the problem, but then again, any of these other problems would only make

everything worse, too.

Also, I'll just throw another thing out, though I don't know if your

symptoms are an indicator--could you have some sort of stomach muscle

cramping problem? One GI doc. thought I had that--still doing research on

that. I'm allergic to a lot of things & I think it messes up my GI tract.

Maybe inflammation--maybe irregular muscle movement, maybe both.

Good luck w/ the Min-Chex (I'll have to look that one up, too)--I hope you

get to re-claim your fifties.

Ellen

RE: Stomach pain

Hi Ellen: I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I haven't

asked about the infection. It only seems to happen during die-off. I

am

trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which helped

tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got

some.

it will take a few days before I know if it will work. I hope that does

it

if not I will have to check on the infection end. I just had another

set of

tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe

would

have caught it? At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will ask

her.

Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on at

one

time. And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler. I am bent over

because of it but I'm still better than I was. Would you believe I was

in

bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my

40's

to illness and quacks! I'm fighting back now!

Thanks again, Hiker102002

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Hi Mic:

My doctor (naturopath) is a PHd and has patients from around the world. I

checked her out thoroughly before I went to her AND she came highly

recommended even tho' she is a bit unconventional. They say she is

brilliant and, so far, I would have to agree. She does everyting by

phone...you never go to her. Her brother sets phone appointments for her.

He is in Tenn. she is in ville, FL. She ran electromagnetic tests on

me for candida, parasites, bacteria, viruses, checked out all of my organs,

cellular energy, etc. Then she sent the recommended treatment sheet and

test results, set an appointment for us to talk and explained everything. I

still have questions so we talk often and I order everything I need from her

brother.

I have learned that we still have to do research for ourselves, that's how I

found the Min-chex for stomach pain but I'm having die-off and my core (?)

diseases are being treated so...

Hope you find what you need. If you would like the name of number of this

doctor let me know.

Good luck, Joyce

Re: RE: Stomach pain

Hiker .....,

Can you tell me what tests your naturopath ran on you? I don't even know

where to find a specialist like this. I'm trying to research all of this

and treat myself, because I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Mic

> Hi Ellen:† I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I haven't

>asked about the infection.† It only seems to happen during die-off.† I am

>trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which helped

>tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got

>some.

>it will take a few days before I know if it will work.† I hope that does

>it

>if not I will have to check on the infection end.† I just had another set

>of

>tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe

>would

>have caught it?† At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will ask

>her.

>Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on at

one

>time.† And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler.† I am bent over

>because of it but I'm still better than I was.† Would you believe I was

in

>bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my

40's

>to illness and quacks!† I'm fighting back now!

>Thanks again, Hiker102002

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On the Min-chex you can't follow the directions on the bottle...you have to

start with 3 capsules 15 imnutes before each meal and then taper down as

your body dictates. I go up and down a lot...Joyce

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Hiker .....,

Can you tell me what tests your naturopath ran on you? I don't even

know

where to find a specialist like this. I'm trying to research all of this

and treat myself, because I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Mic

> Hi Ellen:† I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I

haven't

>asked about the infection.† It only seems to happen during die-off.† I

am

>trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which

helped

>tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got

>some.

>it will take a few days before I know if it will work.† I hope that

does

>it

>if not I will have to check on the infection end.† I just had another

set

>of

>tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe

>would

>have caught it?† At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will

ask

>her.

>Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on at

one

>time.† And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler.† I am bent over

>because of it but I'm still better than I was.† Would you believe I was

in

>bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my

40's

>to illness and quacks!† I'm fighting back now!

>Thanks again, Hiker102002

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how did she check out all your organs over the phone?

Ken

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Hiker .....,

Can you tell me what tests your naturopath ran on you? I don't even know

where to find a specialist like this. I'm trying to research all of this

and treat myself, because I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Mic

> Hi Ellen:? I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I haven't

>asked about the infection.? It only seems to happen during die-off.? I am

>trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which helped

>tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got

>some.

>it will take a few days before I know if it will work.? I hope that does

>it

>if not I will have to check on the infection end.? I just had another set

>of

>tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe

>would

>have caught it?? At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will ask

>her.

>Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on at

one

>time.? And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler.? I am bent over

>because of it but I'm still better than I was.? Would you believe I was

in

>bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my

40's

>to illness and quacks!? I'm fighting back now!

>Thanks again, Hiker102002

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who did the EM testing.

Ken

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Hiker .....,

Can you tell me what tests your naturopath ran on you? I don't even

know

where to find a specialist like this. I'm trying to research all of

this

and treat myself, because I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Mic

> Hi Ellen:? I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I

haven't

>asked about the infection.? It only seems to happen during die-off.?

I am

>trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which

helped

>tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got

>some.

>it will take a few days before I know if it will work.? I hope that

does

>it

>if not I will have to check on the infection end.? I just had another

set

>of

>tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe

>would

>have caught it?? At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will

ask

>her.

>Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on

at

one

>time.? And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler.? I am bent over

>because of it but I'm still better than I was.? Would you believe I

was

in

>bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my

40's

>to illness and quacks!? I'm fighting back now!

>Thanks again, Hiker102002

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Dear Ken: No, silly, it was thrugh the electro-magnetic testing but I

also went to a gastro. guy.

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how did she check out all your organs over the phone?

Ken

Re: RE: Stomach pain

Hiker .....,

Can you tell me what tests your naturopath ran on you? I don't even

know

where to find a specialist like this. I'm trying to research all of

this

and treat myself, because I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Mic

> Hi Ellen:? I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I

haven't

>asked about the infection.? It only seems to happen during die-off.?

I am

>trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which

helped

>tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and got

>some.

>it will take a few days before I know if it will work.? I hope that

does

>it

>if not I will have to check on the infection end.? I just had another

set

>of

>tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink whe

>would

>have caught it?? At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so will

ask

>her.

>Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going on

at

one

>time.? And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler.? I am bent over

>because of it but I'm still better than I was.? Would you believe I

was

in

>bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff. Lost my

40's

>to illness and quacks!? I'm fighting back now!

>Thanks again, Hiker102002

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Dr. Diane Petoskey, PHd in ville, FL. $365.00 and she covers teh

whole gamut. She makes appointments thru her brother in Tenn., Mike

615-904-6000. I thoroughly checked her out and she came highly recommended

and has patients from all over the world. But since she does the testing

herself (she won't farm it out) and has several new clients monthly it takes

about 6 weeks or so to get the results. Blessings, Joyce

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who did the EM testing.

Ken

Re: RE: Stomach pain

Hiker .....,

Can you tell me what tests your naturopath ran on you? I don't

even

know

where to find a specialist like this. I'm trying to research all

of

this

and treat myself, because I'm sick and tired of being sick and

tired!

Mic

> Hi Ellen:? I have had the full battery of tests - no ulcer but I

haven't

>asked about the infection.? It only seems to happen during

die-off.?

I am

>trying a caplet put out by Standard Process called Min-Chex which

helped

>tremendously at one time...just thought of it again yesterday and

got

>some.

>it will take a few days before I know if it will work.? I hope

that

does

>it

>if not I will have to check on the infection end.? I just had

another

set

>of

>tests run by the naturopath - if I had this infection do you tink

whe

>would

>have caught it?? At any rate, I talk to her again on the 6th so

will

ask

>her.

>Thanks for your input...it is so troubling to have so much going

on

at

one

>time.? And, yes, the stomach pain is a real disabler.? I am bent

over

>because of it but I'm still better than I was.? Would you believe

I

was

in

>bed for 6 years and 2 in a wheelchair with all of this stuff.

Lost my

40's

>to illness and quacks!? I'm fighting back now!

>Thanks again, Hiker102002

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In a message dated 4/3/03 10:20:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kagreen@... writes:

> I have been on the candida diet for about two weeks. Sat. after I ate I had

> terrible stomach, bowel.....pain. Since then I have not eaten much. I don't

> feel very hungry actually. When I eat it feels like the pain will come back

> so I don't eat very large portions. Any ideas?? I hope this is a healing

> thing

>

Have you gone to a doctor to make sure you do not have a blockage? I have

had intense lower intestinal pain, and it was caused by the candida. But it

was not normal, or healthy! The only way got relief from the pain was when

the DR, who could find nothing wrong with me, gave me a barium enema to see

if my appendix was acting up. The flushing of my lower bowel gave me

temporary relief.

But if you are in so much pain, and have no appetite, I would get checked

out. You don't want to fool with your bowl or intestines. Pain and lack of

appetite is usually a sign that something is wrong.

Hanida

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Sorry that I can't offer any first hand experience or advice, but I hope

all goes well.

Pat

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In a message dated 3/24/2004 12:17:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Firstwifek@... writes:

She went off Celebrex in November and is now on Riaflan (spelling?) Anyone

else experience stomach problems/ulcers from Riaflan?

Hi Kaye, do you mean Relafen? Anyway, the problem with NSAIDs and the

stomach is doubled-barrelled. They are acidic, so they tend to eat away at the

stomach lining when you take them. However, NSAIDs also have second

side-effect. They increase the stomach's production of acid after they have

become

absorbed into the bloodstream.. Celebrex is stomach friendly because it does

not have this second side-effect. Relafen is a NSAID and has the second

side-effect. The Prilosec is a proton pump inhibitor, which is just a fancy

name

that means it helps the stomach regulate the production of acid to non-harmful

levels. Prilosec is a very successful drug in stopping ulcers and it

should help Adrienne's stomach pain. It doesn't heal the ulcer itself, but it

does heal the cause and the body then can heal the ulcer on its own. Ulcers in

the stomach or anywhere in the gasto-intestinal system are very painful.

Ulcers anywhere on the body are very painful. In the meantime, Pepto Bismol

should help ifthe pain is lower down. For acid reflux and the pain is higher

up,

Gaviscon gives good temporary relief. Hope Adrienne fees better soon.

btw, one of the benefits of Relafen is very easy on the liver and kidneys.

Matt

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Thank you so much for the information.

I goofed, it is Voltaren that she is currently taking...but she isn't

taking... if that makes sense. She is barely eating anything due to stomach

pain,

has lost over 5 pounds so far this week She is only weighing about 113 to 115

and she isn't getting her meds down,other than the pain killers.

Adrienne has been to ER twice this past week for stomach pain. Shot of

demeral, vicadin around the clock and lortab 10mg #5 as needed for more severe

pain.

Many many tests have been run, much has been ruled out... but going to

Seattle (2 hours away) on Tuesday to Virginia Mason to see the specialists

there.

She also started 20mg prilosec this week and is on about dose #4 so far. Not

sure it is doing anything to help yet.

Right now it is looking like or being considered either an ulcer or crohns.

Tonight, she ate steak and a few potatoes, and the pain was bad, but not

doubling over as it is with chicken and salad. She was able to take two

vicadins

and go to bed.

I had read somewhere, warm foods, bland foods, and no fiber or dairy... if

dealing with crohns. But I really don't know anything about this. Does anyone

have any advise? Suggestions? I am open to all information I can get.

Thanks!

K

Adrienne's mom

Adrienne age 20, who has done the tour of ERs for her spring break and is

supposed to start back at the University on Monday...

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Hello K,

I'm sorry to hear that Adrienne is feeling so bad these days.

I don't have Crohn's or IBD, but I have got IBS, which isn't really the same

thing.....But if you've tried most of the other things, it may be another

option for you to give some thought to.

However, I find that eating boiled greenstuff (without any salt in it) keeps

my stomach and bowel from getting too bad.

I seem to eat a lot of boiled *spinach, green beans, peas, broad beans,

broccoli, green cabbage, kale, sprouts, cauliflower and the odd carrot or

two, etc..........And I find that this helps me a lot.

*There's quite a lot of iron in spinach, so it will also help to prevent

anaemia.

Of course there's quite a bit of fibre in the bean family, so you may want

to pass on those if fibre causes Adrienne problems. ( I have had to do this

by trial and error.)

..

I also eat chicken, without the fat, and cooked in a Foreman

type grill and/or boiled or coddled white fish.

I also find that oatmeal porridge and boiled rice don't cause me problems.

(Both without salt.)

I realise that this is quite a bland mixture to have to eat, and it ain't

much fun to live this way, but it seems to keep things flowing normally

through my system. (And it sorts me out when I'm feeling unwell.)

I also avoid all fatty foods or herbs and spices like the plague, and this

works for me.

As for drinks, I drink warm (boiled) water and sometimes weak green tea.

(Camomile tea is also said to be good for some stomach and bowel disorders,

and for calming the nervous system.)

(I don't touch alcohol, fizzy drinks, sodas, strong coffee, etc.)

Anyhow, these are just some ideas for foods that are fairly neutral and,

which shouldn't cause Adrienne any real problems.

But in the meantime, good luck with whatever you decide to try, and I hope

that she'll be feeling better again very soon.

Best regards!

Mal.

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Dear Kay, I have had an enormous stomach ulcer that was diagnosed in January

in France, and so if Adreinne is suffering from a stomach ulcer and not

Crohn's, I can certainly relate to how she is feeling. It is extremely

painful. I would recommend avoiding all acidic foods (fruit, fruit juice,

salad dressings with vinegar) anything rich (sauces, fats, creamy things)

and any raw fruit or veg because it can be difficult to digest. Stop any

anti-inflammatories immediately - I have only recently found out how much

these destroy your stomach. I know this is difficult with the Reiter's, but

I have been using 60mg co-codamol or Tramadol for the pain. These do not

harm the stomach. At least she is being taken seriously by doctors. The

best thing would be to get an endoscopy and colonoscopy ASAP. I don't want

to panic you, but by the time I had mine, the symptoms were very severe and

I was told my stomach would have perforated very soon. This can be serious,

so make sure you don't get fobbed off as I was. If is it just the stomach

pain, it sounds very much like an ulcer. I think Crohn's usually presents

with lower abdominal cramps and pain and in particular, diarrohea, but I may

be wrong. The pain may be helped by staying propped up at night to stop

reflux in the oesophagus, and I also held an ice pack or a hot water bottle

on my chest/stomach to help the pain.

I wish her the best of luck, and a swift diagnosis,

love Helen xx

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In a message dated 3/29/2004 6:34:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jturner@... writes:

Protein is the hardest thing for the digestive tract to digest, so maybe eat

low protein until they figure out what's wrong.

Actually, protein is the easiest of all foods for all protein eating

mammals, including humans, to digest. It's true that some health food

advocates

(usually ones who have a vegetarian bias) say protein is hard to digest, I've

seen the remark in health food articles myself, but this is a complete fallacy.

Cows eat grain, vegetables and grasses; in order to do this they need 2

stomachs, must chew the cud and have an incredibely long bowel tract.

Carnivores that live solely on meat have the simplest and shortest digestive

system --

digestive problems are almost unknown. Even small little mice have larger

digestive tracts in comparison of body size. The animals that have the least

amount of digestive disease and the simplest and shortest digestive tract are

the scavengers who eat animal carcasses, not only do they have zero

digestive problems, if you are bitten by one, it can be fatal because of all

the

lethal bacteria in their mouth. M.

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Kay, I hope your daughter is feeling better. Someone else on our list

mentioned the symptoms of Crohn's:

<<Common symptoms of Crohn's disease include abdominal pain, diarrhea, and

weight loss. Less common symptoms include poor appetite, fever, night sweats,

rectal pain, and rectal bleeding. The symptoms of Crohn's disease are dependent

on the location, the extent, and the severity of the inflammation.>>

Here are some common symptoms for gastritis or start of ulcer disease:

<<The pain is usually in the upper central portion of your abdomen (the " pit "

of your stomach). You also can feel gastritis pain in the left upper portion

of your abdomen and in your back. The pain seems to " go right straight

through " a person as it travels from your belly to your back.>>

Gastritis or ulcers, which is very common to us who have to take long term

NSAID, can cause severe pain in the upper abdomen. The pain can be quite

severe...I once required a shot of Demerol to ease it. Keep us posted.

Best regards, Connie (granny)

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/10487-3.asp

http://www.medicinenet.com/Crohns_Disease/article.htm

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Cream of rice cereal is a good one when you're having stomach problems.

Very easy to digest, no wheat or gluten or dairy. Maybe a little butter or

maybe margarine would be better and maybe a little brown sugar with it.

I'm so sorry about Adrienne. I hope she has a good gastroenterologist and

they nail it down soon.

Protein is the hardest thing for the digestive tract to digest, so maybe eat

low protein until they figure out what's wrong.

Janet in SF

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In a message dated 3/29/2004 5:17:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Grannyof9@... writes:

....I once required a shot of Demerol to ease it

Adrienne did this last week, at her second ER visit.

Tomorrow, she is seen by the specialists...so I hope we can come to some

answers then. Crossing fingers!

I want to Thank all who have offered ideas, help, suggestions. Greatly

Appreciate All!

Matt, Thank You!!!, she is trying the pepto bismal before eating...and it

Worked! Not perfect, but it was better than any other time. She felt nausaus

and

hurt some...but not bad enough for a vicadin. She was able to go without pain

killers until later in the evening... after she ... had a latte, without

pepto bismal first... that about put her back into ER 4 hours later. I think

she

believes two things now... pepto bismal first AND... no coffee!

Thanks again to everyone! I am forwarding the info on to Adrienne...and hope

to learn more at her appointment tomorrow.

K

Adrienne's Mom

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Kay, you mentioned she had problems after her " latte " . Coffee is

contraindicated if you are having ulcer or gastritis problems. Just thought I

better

mention that so she wouldn't drink anymore coffee.

Connie

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In a message dated 3/29/2004 6:55:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Grannyof9@... writes:

so she wouldn't drink anymore coffee.

She had wanted me to 'pick her up a latte' which I refused to do... so when

we made a dash to the grocery store... to get some items for her to take back

to school with her... Dang if that grocery doesn't have a starbucks Inside.

I *think* maybe she figured it out this time... at least I hope so. I did

forward your note to her.

Thank you so much for your concern and your information!

K

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I hope Adrienne is well soon, I know it is a hard thing to go through. It's

surprising how painful it is. Once the Doctor gets to the cause, he will be

able to give an effective treatment. Tell Adrienne it shouldn't be long

now. As Connie's descriptions show, both diseases are real hard on you, both

in

terms of physical effects and pain.

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In a message dated 3/29/2004 3:35:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jturner@... writes:

I hope she has a good gastroenterologist and

they nail it down soon.

Adrienne was seen yesterday and ... the thought is an Ulcer. She will be

scoped in three weeks and more will be determined at that time. Until then,she

has a 'diet' to stick to and foods to avoid, meds to help with the pain, and a

specialist that already knows her by name and is patient with mom questions.

:)

She and her specialist hit it off immediately. They were like sisters! Both

were dancers, both still dance some, both are interested in medicine, both

have 'pre exisiting conditions'...I could go on and on. Oh and both are young.

The MD doing the scoping will be the same MD who treats her cousin who has

crohns.

Thank you again to all for the advise and encouragment and information! I

Love this list! You are the BEST!!!!

Thanks again!

K

Adrienne's Mom

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