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How about eggs? I'm going to get some whey protein powder to take

as well.

van Wichen wrote:

That's interesting Donna. I can feel

quite hyper after breakfast if I'm not

careful what I eat. I'm usually adding brazil nuts, cashews

or almonds to

my muesli and yoghurt - just to bump up the protein and fat content.

Anybody out there got any great breakfast ideas?

>From: Donna <roberts5@...>

>Reply-hyperthyroidism

>hyperthyroidism

>Subject: Re: protein

>Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 22:16:51 -0400

>

>I'm with you, . Maybe that's why I don't do well with

a lot of

>breakfast foods, because they're usually sugary or bready.

Bread is

>good for me, but I need fats and protein too to feel my best.

>

>Donna

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> van Wichen wrote:

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> > Hi again Peta,

> >

> > I think I read somewhere in ithyroid.com about a test involving

rats,

> > whereby some rats were put on a very low protein diet and -

guess what

> > -

> > they became hyperthyroid!

> >

> > Personally I know that I feel a lot better if I eat some protein

and a

> >

> > little fat (as well as carbs). Like you say, it keeps

blood sugar

> > levels

> > more stable and also my mood!

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> >

> > >From: PParkegail@...

> > >Reply-hyperthyroidism

> > >hyperthyroidism

> > >Subject: Re: Soy scare -

> > >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 02:35:20 EDT

> > >

> > >Hi Joan!

> > > Because I'm having to drastically

reduce the amount of fish I

> > >eat,(iodine content etc.), I'm now quite limited for

protein, so

> > I've

> > >reluctantly started on poultry (occasionally). I also take

> > micro-filtered

> > >Whey protein as a shake - as recommended by Kenton!!

> > Apparently the

> > >most complete amino acid food available and very beneficial.

It's

> > made by

> > >Solgar (has to be micro-filtered etc). Maybe you could try

it.

> > > It seems, from recent research, that we actually need

more protein

> > than

> > >was

> > >thought. (I think I'll probably have to turn my previous

letter

> > about high

> > >carb/low protein on it's head!) Too much carbohydrate, even

> > unrefined,

> > >definitely throws insulin out of balance.

> > >-Love

> > > Peta x

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I just recently read that 50 to 60 grams is average (although most

Americans eat too much protein according to the article).

in GA

> Protein

>

>

> How many Grams of Protein should we consume/day and per/sitting?

> Thanks!

> Sara

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Gee , I don't know. When I make it with the 2 scoops, I sip on it for

about an hour. Today when I mixed it with the Citrucel, I used only one

scoop. Maybe someone with more knowledge can answer that one. I'll ask my

dietician friend at work and let you know. Thanks for the info.

Betty Pappas

Help with my protein please

> >

> >

> > > I have tried 2 kinds of protein from GNC and both make me

> > nauseous. I

> > > need some way to get in my choc. protein powder. I tried it in skim

> > > milk and

> > water

> > > and both are horrible.. Im 4 wks out and I need protein.. HELP!!

> > > KAREN 10/16/02

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Vitalady says 30 grams of protein at a time is all the average person

can absorb. ..... I am having trouble finding a powder I can stand....

The Isopure I found just so so... Maybe I need to add the additional

sweetener? I really wish we could just mix and go and not HAVE to add

anything to make it tolerable. The only tolerable I have found so far

has been Carb Solutions... But only the premixed. The powder is

atrocious! I have a box of Vitalady samples... I still need to try, but

again, it's the adding stuff to make it drinkable that has me in a

dither. ;o] The Balance bars a great, thanks Betty for reporting on

them... I really like the lemon and triple choc ones...

Hugs,

LyndaV

Cushing Oklahoma USA

p8nlady@...

9/5/2001

296/168

...I am always happy to be a contact. But

Please....contact me privately.

> Re: protein

>

>

> Gee , I don't know. When I make it with the 2 scoops, I

> sip on it for about an hour. Today when I mixed it with the

> Citrucel, I used only one scoop. Maybe someone with more

> knowledge can answer that one. I'll ask my dietician friend

> at work and let you know. Thanks for the info.

>

> Betty Pappas

>

> Help with my protein please

> > >

> > >

> > > > I have tried 2 kinds of protein from GNC and both make me

> > > nauseous. I

> > > > need some way to get in my choc. protein powder. I tried it in

> > > > skim milk and

> > > water

> > > > and both are horrible.. Im 4 wks out and I need

> protein.. HELP!!

> > > > KAREN 10/16/02

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi ,

Yes, I ordered some Isopure but got diarrhea after only a small amount. I

use the AdvantEDGE shakes (no fat, low carb) and Adkins Advantage (have some

fat and carb but more protein) and I tolerate these OK. I guess the powders

are just too concentrated for me + I can't stand the smell. Thanks! Sara

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I get my from www.proteinfactory.com and it's really good. Even Savannah

likes to drink the chocolate. She thinks it tastes like chocolate milk. I

like the vanilla cause you can add banana or whatever else to it. I've

recommended it to several people and all have been happy with it.

in OK

In a message dated 11/23/2002 8:46:19 PM Central Standard Time,

p8nlady@... writes:

<< I too have as of yet found a powder to mix that I can stand to drink

down...

Really is a bummer!

Hugs,

Lynda Vance

>>

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I added sweetner to my shakes I made with it.

In a message dated 11/23/2002 10:58:11 PM Central Standard Time,

justdave@... writes:

<< Hey was looking on the protien factory site and what I was surprized at was

no sugar content included but -- I gather with low carbs on the womens low

cab drink its got to be nil wouldn't you think ??? di >>

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I too have as of yet found a powder to mix that I can stand to drink down...

Really is a bummer!

Hugs,

Lynda Vance

Always happy to be a contact........

..........Please contact

privately

Cushing Oklahoma 9-5-2001

p8nlady@... 296/168

Re: Protein

> Hi ,

> Yes, I ordered some Isopure but got diarrhea after only a small amount. I

> use the AdvantEDGE shakes (no fat, low carb) and Adkins Advantage (have

some

> fat and carb but more protein) and I tolerate these OK. I guess the

powders

> are just too concentrated for me + I can't stand the smell. Thanks! Sara

>

>

>

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Hey was looking on the protien factory site and what I was surprized at was

no sugar content included but -- I gather with low carbs on the womens low

cab drink its got to be nil wouldn't you think ??? di

Re: Protein

> I get my from www.proteinfactory.com and it's really good. Even Savannah

> likes to drink the chocolate. She thinks it tastes like chocolate milk.

I

> like the vanilla cause you can add banana or whatever else to it. I've

> recommended it to several people and all have been happy with it.

>

> in OK

>

>

> In a message dated 11/23/2002 8:46:19 PM Central Standard Time,

> p8nlady@... writes:

>

> << I too have as of yet found a powder to mix that I can stand to drink

> down...

> Really is a bummer!

>

> Hugs,

> Lynda Vance

> >>

>

>

>

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Dear Shirlee,

I have been told to eat plenty of protein but to avoid the red meats and boy, one even small steak will do me in for a few days! Chicken, fish, beans (eg black beans),eggs and yogurt have good protein and generally aren't too high in fat, which is the other thing to avoid.

Amy

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Amy:

When you say that a steak will do you in for a few days, just exactly what do you mean by that? Just curious.

Marty

-- [ ] Re: Protein

Dear Shirlee, I have been told to eat plenty of protein but to avoid the red meats and boy, one even small steak will do me in for a few days! Chicken, fish, beans (eg black beans),eggs and yogurt have good protein and generally aren't too high in fat, which is the other thing to avoid.Amy

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Dear Marty,

The red meat especially (I've also had a problem with too many peanuts) caused me to be very spacey, shaky, serious brain fog and at one time I didn't remember anything of the evening before (my dr. got upset and said that when I got that bad I needed to be in ER). It also causes sleepiness ( I've never been this bad but too much sleeping can mean a coma in serious cases. ) It's all caused by the ammonia build up in the blood - hence the lovely medicine Lactulose which keeps you awake by having you run to the bathroom a lot....We have so much fun, don't we?

Forever running,

Amy

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I have a lot of friends who are

nutritionists and they say for my body weight I should only be eating 30 grams

of protein a day. And I’ve heard previously that any more thn that your body cant process and has to use calcium to

break down, thus depleting the bodys stores of

calcium, which is why in countries that eat a more vegan diet (no meat or

dairy), their rates of osteoperosis are minimal

compared to western countries where a lot of protein (and calcium, eg milk!) is

eaten. Thus I believe recommending a high protein diet is dangerous. Also

it puts a lot of strain on our kidneys, from what I understand from my readings.

RE:

buckwheat and carbs

Protein.  Its stays in your stomach longer, helping you

feel satiated.  So put chicken, beef,

eggs or nuts on your salad.  It makes a

big difference.  I sometimes take a

hardboiled egg with me to work for a snack. 

You can also snack on a handful of nuts. 

It is so hard getting used to this diet. 

I know.  I tried it many, many

times or the past several years.  No

it’s becoming old hat.  But, I have

such a strong conviction this now, to stop feeling so crappy all the time,

nothing can deter me!

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> The human body only needs 8-12 percent protein each day!!

Yes, I've read this before, but I've also read that a person

who is attempting to recover from an illness requires far more

nutrition than a person who is merely trying to maintain

their health. So does that number apply to someone

maintaining their health, or someone improving their

health?

My own personal experience shows that increasing protein

increases my EMF tolerance. I also think that increasing

protein helps your body get toxins out of the body, as

the amino acids in the protein act as a carrier which binds

to the toxins and allows them to leave the body safely.

As for the questions of animal vs. vegetable, I'd

say that people should do whatever works for them.

I've seen from my own experiences that there is at

least some truth to the blood type diet, which says

that some people do better with animal sources, and

some people do better with vegetable sources.

Marc

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Vegetarians come down with cancer too, maybe not as much, but they do get it

and tho they stick to their diet they may succumb. I think there is more to

health than vegetarianism. I take in lots of protein, often from whey.

Loren

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> I have read over and over again on this forum about sticking to a

> vegetarian diet.

>

> In researching other alternative methods I am advised that your body

> cannot fight cancer properly without protein. This advice stated

> that there are certain types of protein that are only available in

> meat.

>

> This is very conflicting and I would appreciate anyone clarifying

> this as much as possible.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Stan

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, I have heard that vegetarians get cancer less than meat eaters. But

I can see the advantages of your body receiving protein to help fight it. I

feel there has to be a balance of meat to protein but what percentage?

Stan

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stancy2002

I have never heard that as vegetarians are much less likely to get cancer

C

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From: " Hazlewood " <stancy2@...>

> I can see the advantages of your body receiving protein to help

fight [cancer]

Yes, protein has pros and cons. I'd probably consume a moderately

low amount of protein, but it greatly depends on the individual.

My 1st choices of animal protein would be baked, fresh ,

deep-sea/wild [non-farm-raised], cold-water seafood (ideally

Icelandic/Pacific/ALASKAN SALMON, sardines, herring, & rainbow

trout), and some turkey, chicken , and a possibly little lean

bison, ostrich, elk, goat, game, or lamb (these animals tend to

be grass-fed? & free-range) (ideally from Icelandic/New Zealand;

it's grass-fed and essentially organic) or game. Avoid all animal

fat (except fish fat and flax oil w/cottage cheese). Meat from

Australia, New Zealand, Iceland, and local farms are the

healthiest.

Consume animal protein only before about 2pm, and take extra

proteolytic enzymes beforehand. Eat ONLY organic (or at least

hormone/antibiotic-free), preferably grass-fed , meat. The best

source I know of is on www.mercola.com/store.htm. " To find

grass-fed meats available by state www.www.eatwild.com. "

I think the BEST AND SAFEST NON-ANIMAL PROTEIN SOURCES are green

foods (algae, wheatgrass, barleygrass, alfalfa, etc.), leafy

greens, tempeh (very absorbable form of protein), walnuts,

almonds, mushrooms, and SPROUTS--particularly sprouted broccoli,

garlic, onion, beans (particularly lentil & mung bean), and seeds

(particularly sunflower).

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I eat fish and a little poultry (organic/free range) but absolutely no red meat

as that has been proven to be cancer causing!

C

Hazlewood <stancy2@...> wrote:

, I have heard that vegetarians get cancer less than meat eaters. But I

can see the advantages of your body receiving protein to help fight it. I feel

there has to be a balance of meat to protein but what percentage?

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My dad has prostate cancer, he is on Gerson Therapy 100%, and takes

" Pancreatin " , gets it from Key Company in St. Louis, MO i'm not at home, if you

would like more specific info let me know.

Hazlewood <stancy2@...> wrote:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a source of Pancreatic Enzyme? Do you

think this would be a good supplement for the Budwig diet?

Stan

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From: " nick c " <emubit@...>

> I live in australia and noticed your comment about

> meat in australia being healthier? Can you clarify if

> this is so compared to meat in the US.

I don't know much more than what's written below. I heard New

Zealand has the strictist health standards for raising animals

(for food).

> And do you mean

> in general or when you buy organic meat.

In general.

> <leonardleonard1@...> wrote:

> lamb...from

> Iceland/New Zealand;

> > it's grass-fed and essentially organic)...

> Meat from

> > Australia, New Zealand, Iceland, and local farms are

> the

> > healthiest.

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How has red meat been proven to cause cancer? I would have you argue this

with Aajanus Vonderplanitz who cured his own cancer by eating nothing but

raw meat.

There are no simple answers. Whether meat helps or hurts depends on the

individual, the type and stage of cancer, the rest of the diet/protocol,

and exactly what it is you are trying to do.

In general you should strongly consider finding an anticancer diet that is

quite different from the diet you were on prior to diagnosis. As with most

things, there are exceptions.

Quality of meat can be a factor. I don't encourage consumption of

Mc's fried meat-like excretions served with French fried

acrylamide. Recommended documentaries: " The Yes Men, " and " Supersize Me. "

Certainly the majority of anticancer diets see fit to exclude red meat, but

I think we have all seen a number of cancer patients regain their health

while eating beef, etc. A diet protocol has to be pretty damn worthless if

a hamburger or two is a death warrant. Would it be so be bad to sink your

teeth in a juicy burger while imagining PacMen chomping away at a tumor?

Having said that, I do want to say that a Breuss-type fast seems to be the

best dietary method that I have seen that can shrink many types of tumor

quickly. It is not the best choice for those who are wasting or for the

weak willed.

At 02:13 PM 03/11/05, wrote:

>I eat fish and a little poultry (organic/free range) but absolutely no red

>meat as that has been proven to be cancer causing!

>C

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Please forward the information.

Thank you

Re: [ ] protein

My dad has prostate cancer, he is on Gerson Therapy 100%, and takes

" Pancreatin " , gets it from Key Company in St. Louis, MO i'm not at home, if you

would like more specific info let me know.

Hazlewood <stancy2@...> wrote:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a source of Pancreatic Enzyme? Do you

think this would be a good supplement for the Budwig diet?

Stan

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