Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hey Jody, I'm not sure about this but if PTU works by slowing down the thyroid its probably going to slow down everything as well. Love those unintended effects. Since I'm really new at this I could be VERY wrong. Might need to try to look it up but all my resources are way way old. Like fifteen years ago old. I think we need a pharmacist on this list! But hey, we have Elaine and that's probably better. I'll bet that there are some foods that are more likely to make this happen as well. There is an incredible pizza place back in Toledo, (Elaine might like this) on Monroe street which has this great amazingly tasty everything pizza which is guaranteed to cause immediate diarrhea in normal people. But as my kids always said, its too good not to eat it. Now that I think about it the problem has always been worse in my son who is six three and weighs about a hundred and sixty pounds. His hands shake. Hmmmm. I wonder... Messing around with this stuff makes you paranoid doesn't it? And if you are going to move gas from your toes the only real social problem is that you might want to skip high tea. Me too. LOL Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Hi Laurel, I'm not on PTU for hyper, but for my eyes, and I don't have any constipation. My bowels actually work very well...but thinking back to this bloating and sometimes very painful gas, I never had it before taking the PTU. And oh Lordy, when I sit in a certain position I can make the bloat move, and then this horrid, loud belch comes up from the bottom of my feet it seems...first time it scared me and hubby both LOL...now it happens almost daily, but it does bring relief. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hey Sue, The DAAS were actually breaking up when my daughter was in Sidney. She made it for their very last show. Had a tremendous time and brought back tapes (in the wrong format) that she had to beg a local company to transfer which they did after swearing her to a blood oath that she would never ever have them copied. I will tell her that the guys still show up once in a while. She had the hugest crush on and went about calling herself the Empress Tangarawara (did I spell that right?) for the longest time. (The world's best kisser?) Thanks for the update. I will be sure to let her know. Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia THanks Fay. I actually haven't taken anything for a while as I noticed iodine in my vitamins. I am off into town today so will get some. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Philip Day? I heard him speak whilst here in a Australia. His book Health Wars is very interesting. Thanks again Sue PS Can't remember who mentioned the 'Doug Allstars', but they no longer exsist. The memebers have gone onto different shows. You see them pop up every now and then. LOL At 08:30 PM 21/02/2002 +0000, you wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:33:57 +1100 Sue Raccanello ><> writes: >> >Sincstarting the >> ATD I >> I now have bloating and it is really >> >uncomfortable. >> I have a runny nose >> and >> Will I be more likely to >catch everything going around >> > > Here's something to consider: A >homeopath I know suggested taking high > doses of vitamin C (I quickly >built up to 2000-2500 mg./day) when I > started treatment. I think I kept >it up for about a half a year or so. > > I just realized something: thanks >to all of you participating from > Australia, I always seem to have mail, >no matter what time of day! > > Take care, Fay > ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Ok this explains why the serotonin reuptake inhibitors cause constipation. Prozac, Paxil etc ad nauseam. Literally. But if people with thyroid problems (or those with IBS) have a problem with the receptors does this tend to make the problem better or worse? Just curious. Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Jody, your description of your belch just make me burst into hysterics here at work! LOL Made my day! Regarding ATD's and reflux/heartburn...Tap most definately gave me reflux and heartburn. Whomever mentioned IBS....the latest studies done on IBS focus more on the brain/gut connection and they are honing in on seratonin's role in the IBS puzzle. I was labeled with IBS many years ago, however now that my thyroid hormones have stabilized in the normal range, I'm 75% better IBS-wise. Here's some info on the serotonin connection w/IBS: (I personally think that perhaps a significant number of people having IBS like symptoms (diarrhea, constipation, gas) might actually have subclinical thyroid problems - just my two cents though) Serotonin, or 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT), is a peptide that is found throughout the body. Approximately 96% of serotonin is located in the gastrointestinal tract, 2% in platelets, and 2% in the CNS. More than 20 types of serotonin receptors at various locations in the human body have been described, but the receptors that seem to be most important in the gastrointestinal tract in general and in IBS in particular are the 5-HT3 and 5-HT4 receptors. Because the structure of the receptor determines the function of the peptide, serotonin has slightly different functions when paired with each different receptor. Generally, these receptors are involved in controlling the motility of and secretions in the gut and the perception of abdominal pain. Typically, 5-HT3 and 5-HT4 receptor agonists promote motility and the antagonists decrease motility. Although the exact mechanism is not known, these receptors do not function properly in IBS. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Ok this explains why the serotonin reuptake inhibitors cause constipation. Prozac, Paxil etc ad nauseam. Literally. But if people with thyroid problems (or those with IBS) have a problem with the receptors does this tend to make the problem better or worse? Just curious. Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Jody, your description of your belch just make me burst into hysterics here at work! LOL Made my day! Regarding ATD's and reflux/heartburn...Tap most definately gave me reflux and heartburn. Whomever mentioned IBS....the latest studies done on IBS focus more on the brain/gut connection and they are honing in on seratonin's role in the IBS puzzle. I was labeled with IBS many years ago, however now that my thyroid hormones have stabilized in the normal range, I'm 75% better IBS-wise. Here's some info on the serotonin connection w/IBS: (I personally think that perhaps a significant number of people having IBS like symptoms (diarrhea, constipation, gas) might actually have subclinical thyroid problems - just my two cents though) Serotonin, or 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT), is a peptide that is found throughout the body. Approximately 96% of serotonin is located in the gastrointestinal tract, 2% in platelets, and 2% in the CNS. More than 20 types of serotonin receptors at various locations in the human body have been described, but the receptors that seem to be most important in the gastrointestinal tract in general and in IBS in particular are the 5-HT3 and 5-HT4 receptors. Because the structure of the receptor determines the function of the peptide, serotonin has slightly different functions when paired with each different receptor. Generally, these receptors are involved in controlling the motility of and secretions in the gut and the perception of abdominal pain. Typically, 5-HT3 and 5-HT4 receptor agonists promote motility and the antagonists decrease motility. Although the exact mechanism is not known, these receptors do not function properly in IBS. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Ok this explains why the serotonin reuptake inhibitors cause constipation. Prozac, Paxil etc ad nauseam. Literally. But if people with thyroid problems (or those with IBS) have a problem with the receptors does this tend to make the problem better or worse? Just curious. Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Jody, your description of your belch just make me burst into hysterics here at work! LOL Made my day! Regarding ATD's and reflux/heartburn...Tap most definately gave me reflux and heartburn. Whomever mentioned IBS....the latest studies done on IBS focus more on the brain/gut connection and they are honing in on seratonin's role in the IBS puzzle. I was labeled with IBS many years ago, however now that my thyroid hormones have stabilized in the normal range, I'm 75% better IBS-wise. Here's some info on the serotonin connection w/IBS: (I personally think that perhaps a significant number of people having IBS like symptoms (diarrhea, constipation, gas) might actually have subclinical thyroid problems - just my two cents though) Serotonin, or 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT), is a peptide that is found throughout the body. Approximately 96% of serotonin is located in the gastrointestinal tract, 2% in platelets, and 2% in the CNS. More than 20 types of serotonin receptors at various locations in the human body have been described, but the receptors that seem to be most important in the gastrointestinal tract in general and in IBS in particular are the 5-HT3 and 5-HT4 receptors. Because the structure of the receptor determines the function of the peptide, serotonin has slightly different functions when paired with each different receptor. Generally, these receptors are involved in controlling the motility of and secretions in the gut and the perception of abdominal pain. Typically, 5-HT3 and 5-HT4 receptor agonists promote motility and the antagonists decrease motility. Although the exact mechanism is not known, these receptors do not function properly in IBS. ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hi Doris, Glad I made you laugh <grin> Hubby says now I put him and the kids to shame, but oh well. Fired endo number 2 told me that seratonin also plays a role in graves disease, but since I was 2 1/2 years into my being left hypO, I don't remember much about it, except that seratonin (lack or overload?) is affected, or we are affected by it. That is why he prescribed prozac for me, that drug relates (stimulates I believe) seratonin to help with wait loss in thyroid patients...what he DIDN'T say, was anything you lose in the first few weeks comes back and then some while on it. I didn't stay on it long, it really made me feel terrible. Something else to think about, especially for those who get flu vaccines regularly, Dr. Wakefield has linked IBS and something else with the gut to the MMR vaccine, as well as with autism. Gee lets keep shooting those *preventative* toxic laden vaccines into our bodies and the bodies of our babies. TTYL Jody _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Well if it is she liked ( McDermott) he was hosting a show until last year on a major TV network. I don't know if the show is returning this year. I have to admit he is a very funny man. Sue At 04:40 PM 21/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: > Hey Sue, > > > > (The world's best kisser?) > > I will be sur > >e et her know. > Laurel > > Re: Re: >Support >group in Australia > > I actually haven't taken anything for a >while as I >noticed > I am off into town today so will get some. > I >heard him >speak > His book Health Wars is very interesting. > Thanks >again > Sue > > > Can't remember who mentioned the 'Doug >Allstars', but they no > You see them > pop up every now and then. LOL > > At 08:30 PM 21/02/2002 +0000, you wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:33:57 +1100 Sue Raccanello >><> writes: >>> >>Sincstarting the >>> ATD I >>> I now have bloating and it is really >>> >>uncomfortable. >>> I have a runny nose >>> and >>> Will I be more likely to >>catch everything going around >>> >> >> Here's something to consider: A >>homeopath I know suggested taking high >> doses of vitamin C (I quickly >>built up to 2000-2500 mg./day) when I >> started treatment. I think I kept >>it up for about a half a year or so. >> >> I just realized something: thanks >>to all of you participating from >> Australia, I always seem to have mail, >>no matter what time of day! >> >> Take care, Fay >> ________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not >intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the >endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Well if it is she liked ( McDermott) he was hosting a show until last year on a major TV network. I don't know if the show is returning this year. I have to admit he is a very funny man. Sue At 04:40 PM 21/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: > Hey Sue, > > > > (The world's best kisser?) > > I will be sur > >e et her know. > Laurel > > Re: Re: >Support >group in Australia > > I actually haven't taken anything for a >while as I >noticed > I am off into town today so will get some. > I >heard him >speak > His book Health Wars is very interesting. > Thanks >again > Sue > > > Can't remember who mentioned the 'Doug >Allstars', but they no > You see them > pop up every now and then. LOL > > At 08:30 PM 21/02/2002 +0000, you wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:33:57 +1100 Sue Raccanello >><> writes: >>> >>Sincstarting the >>> ATD I >>> I now have bloating and it is really >>> >>uncomfortable. >>> I have a runny nose >>> and >>> Will I be more likely to >>catch everything going around >>> >> >> Here's something to consider: A >>homeopath I know suggested taking high >> doses of vitamin C (I quickly >>built up to 2000-2500 mg./day) when I >> started treatment. I think I kept >>it up for about a half a year or so. >> >> I just realized something: thanks >>to all of you participating from >> Australia, I always seem to have mail, >>no matter what time of day! >> >> Take care, Fay >> ________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not >intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the >endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Yes. McDermott. And in the States we don't have the luxury of such great stuff like McDermott, or Tim Tams (yep we can all do the slammer) or any of the million other things that are so wonderful about Australia. I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. Thanks Sue Laurel Re: Re: >Support >group in Australia > > I actually haven't taken anything for a >while as I >noticed > I am off into town today so will get some. > I >heard him >speak > His book Health Wars is very interesting. > Thanks >again > Sue > > > Can't remember who mentioned the 'Doug >Allstars', but they no > You see them > pop up every now and then. LOL > > At 08:30 PM 21/02/2002 +0000, you wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:33:57 +1100 Sue Raccanello >><> writes: >>> >>Sincstarting the >>> ATD I >>> I now have bloating and it is really >>> >>uncomfortable. >>> I have a runny nose >>> and >>> Will I be more likely to >>catch everything going around >>> >> >> Here's something to consider: A >>homeopath I know suggested taking high >> doses of vitamin C (I quickly >>built up to 2000-2500 mg./day) when I >> started treatment. I think I kept >>it up for about a half a year or so. >> >> I just realized something: thanks >>to all of you participating from >> Australia, I always seem to have mail, >>no matter what time of day! >> >> Take care, Fay >> ________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not >intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the >endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Yes. McDermott. And in the States we don't have the luxury of such great stuff like McDermott, or Tim Tams (yep we can all do the slammer) or any of the million other things that are so wonderful about Australia. I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. Thanks Sue Laurel Re: Re: >Support >group in Australia > > I actually haven't taken anything for a >while as I >noticed > I am off into town today so will get some. > I >heard him >speak > His book Health Wars is very interesting. > Thanks >again > Sue > > > Can't remember who mentioned the 'Doug >Allstars', but they no > You see them > pop up every now and then. LOL > > At 08:30 PM 21/02/2002 +0000, you wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:33:57 +1100 Sue Raccanello >><> writes: >>> >>Sincstarting the >>> ATD I >>> I now have bloating and it is really >>> >>uncomfortable. >>> I have a runny nose >>> and >>> Will I be more likely to >>catch everything going around >>> >> >> Here's something to consider: A >>homeopath I know suggested taking high >> doses of vitamin C (I quickly >>built up to 2000-2500 mg./day) when I >> started treatment. I think I kept >>it up for about a half a year or so. >> >> I just realized something: thanks >>to all of you participating from >> Australia, I always seem to have mail, >>no matter what time of day! >> >> Take care, Fay >> ________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not >intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the >endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Oh goodness didn't want to make her weep. <grin> He is still apart of a major TV station here, so I'm sure he will still pop up from time to time. Yes Australia has a load of wonderful things, but hey, we all want to visit the USA because we think you lot have it all. <grin> However saying that, your health system is a bit daunting. I don't really understand it, but from what I gather it can cost you a fortune, and you don't always have the luxury of making choices. Nice chatting Sue At 04:49 PM 22/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. > Tha > >nke > Laurel > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Oh goodness didn't want to make her weep. <grin> He is still apart of a major TV station here, so I'm sure he will still pop up from time to time. Yes Australia has a load of wonderful things, but hey, we all want to visit the USA because we think you lot have it all. <grin> However saying that, your health system is a bit daunting. I don't really understand it, but from what I gather it can cost you a fortune, and you don't always have the luxury of making choices. Nice chatting Sue At 04:49 PM 22/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. > Tha > >nke > Laurel > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Oh goodness didn't want to make her weep. <grin> He is still apart of a major TV station here, so I'm sure he will still pop up from time to time. Yes Australia has a load of wonderful things, but hey, we all want to visit the USA because we think you lot have it all. <grin> However saying that, your health system is a bit daunting. I don't really understand it, but from what I gather it can cost you a fortune, and you don't always have the luxury of making choices. Nice chatting Sue At 04:49 PM 22/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. > Tha > >nke > Laurel > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Dear Sue, I know this is off topic and not what the list is for but, hey. It turns out that she was at the last broadcast of 's last show of the season when she was there. So she knew about the show and the cancellation. I guess she keeps up by email with her mates in the WA. But the trip to Sidney was the most exciting thing about the entire experience and that's saying some because she actually also went to Queensland and jumped out of an airplane (Described in the certificate as " a perfectly good aeroplane. " ) And the truth be told she believes that Australia is heaven. Wants to live there. That's just what you guys need right? A bunch of Yanks messing things up. And you are right. Our health care system sucks. I can say that cause, among other absurd things, I'm a nurse. And any time you want to trade Sydney for Niagara Falls its fine with me. Thanks for the smile, Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Oh goodness didn't want to make her weep. <grin> He is still apart of a major TV station here, so I'm sure he will still pop up from time to time. Yes Australia has a load of wonderful things, but hey, we all want to visit the USA because we think you lot have it all. <grin> However saying that, your health system is a bit daunting. I don't really understand it, but from what I gather it can cost you a fortune, and you don't always have the luxury of making choices. Nice chatting Sue At 04:49 PM 22/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. > Tha > >nke > Laurel > >> ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Dear Sue, I know this is off topic and not what the list is for but, hey. It turns out that she was at the last broadcast of 's last show of the season when she was there. So she knew about the show and the cancellation. I guess she keeps up by email with her mates in the WA. But the trip to Sidney was the most exciting thing about the entire experience and that's saying some because she actually also went to Queensland and jumped out of an airplane (Described in the certificate as " a perfectly good aeroplane. " ) And the truth be told she believes that Australia is heaven. Wants to live there. That's just what you guys need right? A bunch of Yanks messing things up. And you are right. Our health care system sucks. I can say that cause, among other absurd things, I'm a nurse. And any time you want to trade Sydney for Niagara Falls its fine with me. Thanks for the smile, Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Oh goodness didn't want to make her weep. <grin> He is still apart of a major TV station here, so I'm sure he will still pop up from time to time. Yes Australia has a load of wonderful things, but hey, we all want to visit the USA because we think you lot have it all. <grin> However saying that, your health system is a bit daunting. I don't really understand it, but from what I gather it can cost you a fortune, and you don't always have the luxury of making choices. Nice chatting Sue At 04:49 PM 22/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. > Tha > >nke > Laurel > >> ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Doris, Sorry if I already answered you but I've been spending way too many hours on this machine and my brain is fried. I know a lot of people with symptoms of IBS. In fact one young man who is a close friend is hyperactive and nervous as hell and its his primary symptom. I didn't know that there were more than one type of IBS. I'm beginning to think that, just maybe, a lot of " anxiety " disorders are autoimmune in nature. I guess I think first about brains because that is/was my major. But if the receptors for serotonin are mostly in the gut then its going to be connected directly to what the synapses are doing in the head as well. Unless you happen to have a receptor problem. Does that make sense? Perhaps if you do you get used to a higher than normal amount of serotonin in your body. What I don't quite get yet is why the manufactured drugs cause such terrible constipation in most people and you are talking about diarrhea. Has to do with the receptor sites (and probably a lot of other factors as well) The other weird thing I'm wondering is that some of us are using evening primrose to help the absorbtion of cytomel (the T3 stuff). I read the back of the bottle and it says that GLA, the active ingredient, is a precursor to prostaglandins. Ok. Prostaglandins are what aid uterine contractions when one is in labor or having a miscarriage. I'll have to do some homework but I'm thinking that alone could explain some stuff. Like what else does prostaglandins do. Thanks for the input. and the ear. I just like to try to figure this stuff out. Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Laurel, I can only answer with what my experience has been. I was an IBS - D type (diarrhea predominant) and I can tell you that SSRI's give me terrible, awful, horrible diarrhea. From what I'm gathering off of the IBS bb that I frequent, it's these faulty receptors that make IBS worse/symptomatic. Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Doris, Sorry if I already answered you but I've been spending way too many hours on this machine and my brain is fried. I know a lot of people with symptoms of IBS. In fact one young man who is a close friend is hyperactive and nervous as hell and its his primary symptom. I didn't know that there were more than one type of IBS. I'm beginning to think that, just maybe, a lot of " anxiety " disorders are autoimmune in nature. I guess I think first about brains because that is/was my major. But if the receptors for serotonin are mostly in the gut then its going to be connected directly to what the synapses are doing in the head as well. Unless you happen to have a receptor problem. Does that make sense? Perhaps if you do you get used to a higher than normal amount of serotonin in your body. What I don't quite get yet is why the manufactured drugs cause such terrible constipation in most people and you are talking about diarrhea. Has to do with the receptor sites (and probably a lot of other factors as well) The other weird thing I'm wondering is that some of us are using evening primrose to help the absorbtion of cytomel (the T3 stuff). I read the back of the bottle and it says that GLA, the active ingredient, is a precursor to prostaglandins. Ok. Prostaglandins are what aid uterine contractions when one is in labor or having a miscarriage. I'll have to do some homework but I'm thinking that alone could explain some stuff. Like what else does prostaglandins do. Thanks for the input. and the ear. I just like to try to figure this stuff out. Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Laurel, I can only answer with what my experience has been. I was an IBS - D type (diarrhea predominant) and I can tell you that SSRI's give me terrible, awful, horrible diarrhea. From what I'm gathering off of the IBS bb that I frequent, it's these faulty receptors that make IBS worse/symptomatic. Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Doris, Sorry if I already answered you but I've been spending way too many hours on this machine and my brain is fried. I know a lot of people with symptoms of IBS. In fact one young man who is a close friend is hyperactive and nervous as hell and its his primary symptom. I didn't know that there were more than one type of IBS. I'm beginning to think that, just maybe, a lot of " anxiety " disorders are autoimmune in nature. I guess I think first about brains because that is/was my major. But if the receptors for serotonin are mostly in the gut then its going to be connected directly to what the synapses are doing in the head as well. Unless you happen to have a receptor problem. Does that make sense? Perhaps if you do you get used to a higher than normal amount of serotonin in your body. What I don't quite get yet is why the manufactured drugs cause such terrible constipation in most people and you are talking about diarrhea. Has to do with the receptor sites (and probably a lot of other factors as well) The other weird thing I'm wondering is that some of us are using evening primrose to help the absorbtion of cytomel (the T3 stuff). I read the back of the bottle and it says that GLA, the active ingredient, is a precursor to prostaglandins. Ok. Prostaglandins are what aid uterine contractions when one is in labor or having a miscarriage. I'll have to do some homework but I'm thinking that alone could explain some stuff. Like what else does prostaglandins do. Thanks for the input. and the ear. I just like to try to figure this stuff out. Laurel Re: Re: Support group in Australia Laurel, I can only answer with what my experience has been. I was an IBS - D type (diarrhea predominant) and I can tell you that SSRI's give me terrible, awful, horrible diarrhea. From what I'm gathering off of the IBS bb that I frequent, it's these faulty receptors that make IBS worse/symptomatic. Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Sue, How does yours work? Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 09:59:25 +1100 > To: graves_support > Subject: Re: Re: Support group in Australia > > Oh goodness didn't want to make her weep. <grin> He is still apart of a > major TV station here, so I'm sure he will still pop up from time to time. > > Yes Australia has a load of wonderful things, but hey, we all want to visit > the USA because we think you lot have it all. <grin> However saying that, > your health system is a bit daunting. I don't really understand it, but > from what I gather it can cost you a fortune, and you don't always have the > luxury of making choices. > > Nice chatting > Sue > > At 04:49 PM 22/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: >> >> >> I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. >> Tha >> >> nke >> Laurel >> >>> > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Sue, How does yours work? Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 09:59:25 +1100 > To: graves_support > Subject: Re: Re: Support group in Australia > > Oh goodness didn't want to make her weep. <grin> He is still apart of a > major TV station here, so I'm sure he will still pop up from time to time. > > Yes Australia has a load of wonderful things, but hey, we all want to visit > the USA because we think you lot have it all. <grin> However saying that, > your health system is a bit daunting. I don't really understand it, but > from what I gather it can cost you a fortune, and you don't always have the > luxury of making choices. > > Nice chatting > Sue > > At 04:49 PM 22/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: >> >> >> I'll tell her about the show but she will probably weep. >> Tha >> >> nke >> Laurel >> >>> > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list does not have the endorsement > of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Hi Terry We have the Medicare system. In fact I have a brochure here in front of me and this is what it says: Medicare ensures that all Australians have access to free or low-cost medical, optometrical and hospital care while being free to choose private health services. Medicare provides: * free treatment as a public (Medicare) patient in a public hospital; and * free or subsidised treatment by doctors, including specialists, participating optometrists and dentists (for specified services only). Australia's public hospital system is jointly funded by the Commonwealth and State/Territory Governments and is administered by State and Territory health departments. Out of hospital services Medicare provides benefits for: * consultation fees for doctors, including specialists; * tests and examinations by doctors needed to treat illnesses, including x-rays and pathology tests; * eye tests performed by optometrists; * most surgical procedures performed by approved dentists;and * specified items under the Cleft Lip and Palate Scheme Whats not covered by Medicare: * private patient hospital costs (eg theatre fees or accomodation) * dental examinations and treatment * ambulance services * home nursing * physiotherapy, occupational therapy, speech pathology, eye therapy, chiropractic services, podiatry and psychology; * acupuncture (unless part of a doctor's consultation) * glasses and contact lenses; * hearing aids and other appliances; * the costs of prostheses; * medicines (except for the subsidy on medicines covered by the PBS - Pay Back System); * medical and hospital costs incured overseas; * medical costs for which someone else is responsible(eg. a compensation insurer, an employer,a government or government authority); * medical services which are not clinically necessary; * surgery solely for cosmetic reasons; and * examinations for life insurance, sperannuation or membership of a friendly society. These services may be covered by private health insurance. In the area I live we ONLY have public hospitals. So to have private hospital cover in our area is not worth it. However I do have private health cover have been paying it for years and (fingers crossed) have never had to use it. I might add here, if you arrive at a public hospital and you are a emergency you get the immediate treatment to save you life and this does not cost you. It is covered by Medicare. The thing is you have the doctors that are there, not your regular doctor. But hey, if your life was in the balance, I'd want whoever was there! <grin> Hope this explains it in full. Now its your turn, I'd truly like to hear about your health system. Sue Terry wrote: > Sue, > > How does yours work? > > Terry > >><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Hi Terry We have the Medicare system. In fact I have a brochure here in front of me and this is what it says: Medicare ensures that all Australians have access to free or low-cost medical, optometrical and hospital care while being free to choose private health services. Medicare provides: * free treatment as a public (Medicare) patient in a public hospital; and * free or subsidised treatment by doctors, including specialists, participating optometrists and dentists (for specified services only). Australia's public hospital system is jointly funded by the Commonwealth and State/Territory Governments and is administered by State and Territory health departments. Out of hospital services Medicare provides benefits for: * consultation fees for doctors, including specialists; * tests and examinations by doctors needed to treat illnesses, including x-rays and pathology tests; * eye tests performed by optometrists; * most surgical procedures performed by approved dentists;and * specified items under the Cleft Lip and Palate Scheme Whats not covered by Medicare: * private patient hospital costs (eg theatre fees or accomodation) * dental examinations and treatment * ambulance services * home nursing * physiotherapy, occupational therapy, speech pathology, eye therapy, chiropractic services, podiatry and psychology; * acupuncture (unless part of a doctor's consultation) * glasses and contact lenses; * hearing aids and other appliances; * the costs of prostheses; * medicines (except for the subsidy on medicines covered by the PBS - Pay Back System); * medical and hospital costs incured overseas; * medical costs for which someone else is responsible(eg. a compensation insurer, an employer,a government or government authority); * medical services which are not clinically necessary; * surgery solely for cosmetic reasons; and * examinations for life insurance, sperannuation or membership of a friendly society. These services may be covered by private health insurance. In the area I live we ONLY have public hospitals. So to have private hospital cover in our area is not worth it. However I do have private health cover have been paying it for years and (fingers crossed) have never had to use it. I might add here, if you arrive at a public hospital and you are a emergency you get the immediate treatment to save you life and this does not cost you. It is covered by Medicare. The thing is you have the doctors that are there, not your regular doctor. But hey, if your life was in the balance, I'd want whoever was there! <grin> Hope this explains it in full. Now its your turn, I'd truly like to hear about your health system. Sue Terry wrote: > Sue, > > How does yours work? > > Terry > >><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Hi Sue, What kind of prescription coverage do you have? What are the cost of drugs over there...I know our thyroid drugs are not that expensive but am wondering about others. Thanks for sharing this, I find it really interesting. For us, hubby carries insurance through work that covers most things. In hospital is covered at 100%, doctor appts. $15.00 co-pay, labs - $10.00 co-pay, ER service if not admitted is a $50.00 co-pay, X-rays - $15.00 co-pay. Prescriptions: generic, $15.00 co-pay name brand $30.00 co-pay These are for 3 month supplies by mail...to fill locally it is $20.00 month regardless of generic or name brand...including my thyroid meds which altogether run about $17.00 for 4 of them...so I get them filled at a different pharmacy and tell them I have no insurance. This is a cheat on the system in my opinion. We are fortunate in that my husband is considered an *old-timer* where he works so right now we do not pay for our insurance. Anyone else hired there in the last 5 years pays $10.00 a week single and $20.00 a week family and our deductible is $1200.00 family, $600.00 single. This is paid out of pocket before our major med kicks in. My doctors are all in our plan so it makes it easy, if they weren't, I would have to pay everything out of pocket and wait for the insurance company to reimburse me. That is our policy for now, when hubby retires, we will carry a portion of what we have no, plus our medicare, which, at this time, I know nothing about. There are so many different ways insurances run in this country, no one could ever keep track of them! Hope this gives you an idea of one kind of policy here...others have different coverage and most pay astronomical monthly fees for their coverage. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Hi Sue, What kind of prescription coverage do you have? What are the cost of drugs over there...I know our thyroid drugs are not that expensive but am wondering about others. Thanks for sharing this, I find it really interesting. For us, hubby carries insurance through work that covers most things. In hospital is covered at 100%, doctor appts. $15.00 co-pay, labs - $10.00 co-pay, ER service if not admitted is a $50.00 co-pay, X-rays - $15.00 co-pay. Prescriptions: generic, $15.00 co-pay name brand $30.00 co-pay These are for 3 month supplies by mail...to fill locally it is $20.00 month regardless of generic or name brand...including my thyroid meds which altogether run about $17.00 for 4 of them...so I get them filled at a different pharmacy and tell them I have no insurance. This is a cheat on the system in my opinion. We are fortunate in that my husband is considered an *old-timer* where he works so right now we do not pay for our insurance. Anyone else hired there in the last 5 years pays $10.00 a week single and $20.00 a week family and our deductible is $1200.00 family, $600.00 single. This is paid out of pocket before our major med kicks in. My doctors are all in our plan so it makes it easy, if they weren't, I would have to pay everything out of pocket and wait for the insurance company to reimburse me. That is our policy for now, when hubby retires, we will carry a portion of what we have no, plus our medicare, which, at this time, I know nothing about. There are so many different ways insurances run in this country, no one could ever keep track of them! Hope this gives you an idea of one kind of policy here...others have different coverage and most pay astronomical monthly fees for their coverage. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Hi Sue, What kind of prescription coverage do you have? What are the cost of drugs over there...I know our thyroid drugs are not that expensive but am wondering about others. Thanks for sharing this, I find it really interesting. For us, hubby carries insurance through work that covers most things. In hospital is covered at 100%, doctor appts. $15.00 co-pay, labs - $10.00 co-pay, ER service if not admitted is a $50.00 co-pay, X-rays - $15.00 co-pay. Prescriptions: generic, $15.00 co-pay name brand $30.00 co-pay These are for 3 month supplies by mail...to fill locally it is $20.00 month regardless of generic or name brand...including my thyroid meds which altogether run about $17.00 for 4 of them...so I get them filled at a different pharmacy and tell them I have no insurance. This is a cheat on the system in my opinion. We are fortunate in that my husband is considered an *old-timer* where he works so right now we do not pay for our insurance. Anyone else hired there in the last 5 years pays $10.00 a week single and $20.00 a week family and our deductible is $1200.00 family, $600.00 single. This is paid out of pocket before our major med kicks in. My doctors are all in our plan so it makes it easy, if they weren't, I would have to pay everything out of pocket and wait for the insurance company to reimburse me. That is our policy for now, when hubby retires, we will carry a portion of what we have no, plus our medicare, which, at this time, I know nothing about. There are so many different ways insurances run in this country, no one could ever keep track of them! Hope this gives you an idea of one kind of policy here...others have different coverage and most pay astronomical monthly fees for their coverage. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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