Re: Bad thing

[Guest guest]

What would we do without you, Katcha?

Your sharing is extremely helpful!!!

Thank you

Chocolate remains a 'darling' of mine, but I don't have the love-hate relationship with it that I used to have. Now its simply something that I indulge in when I get a craving for it and have no interest in other times. And I'm also much more picky about it too. One thing remains the same for me - if I try to resist it, I am immediately focused on it. Tossing a 'crumb' at my beast works so much better for me than to dragon slay without heart.> > BEST to you as you tackle your demons. Don't forget - you are mighty! :-)

[Guest guest]

What would we do without you, Katcha?

Your sharing is extremely helpful!!!

Thank you

Chocolate remains a 'darling' of mine, but I don't have the love-hate relationship with it that I used to have. Now its simply something that I indulge in when I get a craving for it and have no interest in other times. And I'm also much more picky about it too. One thing remains the same for me - if I try to resist it, I am immediately focused on it. Tossing a 'crumb' at my beast works so much better for me than to dragon slay without heart.> > BEST to you as you tackle your demons. Don't forget - you are mighty! :-)

[Guest guest]

Very well said, Tilley!

Thank you

>If it is always something forbidden, then it will always have power over you.

[Guest guest]

Very well said, Tilley!

Thank you

>If it is always something forbidden, then it will always have power over you.

[Guest guest]

Very well said, Tilley!

Thank you

>If it is always something forbidden, then it will always have power over you.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, and I want to say that I get so much from this group too. :-) Share ON!

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Chocolate remains a 'darling' of mine, but I don't have the love-hate

> relationship with it that I used to have. Now its simply something that

> I indulge in when I get a craving for it and have no interest in other

> times. And I'm also much more picky about it too. One thing remains the

> same for me - if I try to resist it, I am immediately focused on it.

> Tossing a 'crumb' at my beast works so much better for me than to dragon

> slay without heart.

> >

> > BEST to you as you tackle your demons. Don't forget - you are mighty!

> :-)

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, and I want to say that I get so much from this group too. :-) Share ON!

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Chocolate remains a 'darling' of mine, but I don't have the love-hate

> relationship with it that I used to have. Now its simply something that

> I indulge in when I get a craving for it and have no interest in other

> times. And I'm also much more picky about it too. One thing remains the

> same for me - if I try to resist it, I am immediately focused on it.

> Tossing a 'crumb' at my beast works so much better for me than to dragon

> slay without heart.

> >

> > BEST to you as you tackle your demons. Don't forget - you are mighty!

> :-)

>

[Guest guest]

Ellie try not to give the numbers so much power - just see them as information

for now.

I wonder if you might find the Self Compassion Diet by Fain helpful? I

haven't actually read the book but have the CDs home from the library at the

moment - they include teachings on loving kindness and mindfulness as well as

some short hypnosis trances - I have loaded them onto my ipod and already feel

calmer and saner about my eating...which can only be a good thing. The CDs are

not heavily food focused and certainly not diet tips - you may find them more

accessible than a book - just a thought.

Meantime be kind to yourself and remember your inner wisdom which tells you that

diets only mess with your body and your head.

Take care

Clare

>

> I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.

>

> This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online.

So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my

wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW,

maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds

over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm

counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting

" points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy.

>

>

> I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate

wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or

overeating. 

>

> I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing

something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not?

Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants

cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge

on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all.

>

>

> Maybe I should read the IE book after all. 

>

> Ellie

>

[Guest guest]

Ellie try not to give the numbers so much power - just see them as information

for now.

I wonder if you might find the Self Compassion Diet by Fain helpful? I

haven't actually read the book but have the CDs home from the library at the

moment - they include teachings on loving kindness and mindfulness as well as

some short hypnosis trances - I have loaded them onto my ipod and already feel

calmer and saner about my eating...which can only be a good thing. The CDs are

not heavily food focused and certainly not diet tips - you may find them more

accessible than a book - just a thought.

Meantime be kind to yourself and remember your inner wisdom which tells you that

diets only mess with your body and your head.

Take care

Clare

>

> I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.

>

> This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online.

So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my

wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW,

maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds

over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm

counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting

" points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy.

>

>

> I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate

wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or

overeating. 

>

> I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing

something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not?

Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants

cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge

on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all.

>

>

> Maybe I should read the IE book after all. 

>

> Ellie

>

[Guest guest]

Ellie try not to give the numbers so much power - just see them as information

for now.

I wonder if you might find the Self Compassion Diet by Fain helpful? I

haven't actually read the book but have the CDs home from the library at the

moment - they include teachings on loving kindness and mindfulness as well as

some short hypnosis trances - I have loaded them onto my ipod and already feel

calmer and saner about my eating...which can only be a good thing. The CDs are

not heavily food focused and certainly not diet tips - you may find them more

accessible than a book - just a thought.

Meantime be kind to yourself and remember your inner wisdom which tells you that

diets only mess with your body and your head.

Take care

Clare

>

> I did the bad thing this morning..... stepped on the scale.

>

> This came about because my husband told me last night he's joined WW online.

So I thought.... how much *do* I weigh, anyway? I'm only 2 pounds over my

wake-up call number but I'm having thoughts of, " He's going to be following WW,

maybe I should do it with him.... " Two pounds over my wake-up call is 12 pounds

over the weight I like and 17 pounds over my best athletic weight. See???? I'm

counting, I'm obsessing on numbers. The last thing I need is to be counting

" points " as well. Numbers drive me crazy.

>

>

> I don't believe in restriction but I do not yet trust myself to let my innate

wisdom take the lead; it's been suppressed so long by either diets or

overeating. 

>

> I just asked myself: Do I *want* to overeat? No, I don't. Well, why am I doing

something I really don't want to do, when I have the choice to do it or not?

Mostly it's the darn cookies. We live with my mother, who's 90, and she wants

cookies. I'm not telling a 90-yr-old she can't have cookies just because I binge

on them. She doesn't even eat that many. They disappear because I eat them all.

>

>

> Maybe I should read the IE book after all. 

>

> Ellie

>

[Guest guest]

Katcha and Tilley, Thanks so much for your insightful comments! Thank you Katcha for reminding me that I DO have control..and Tilley, thank you for reminding me that it's okay to make peace with eating what was formally "illegal" to begin with. The help here is so wonderful! Sincerely, Ann

[Guest guest]

Katcha and Tilley, Thanks so much for your insightful comments! Thank you Katcha for reminding me that I DO have control..and Tilley, thank you for reminding me that it's okay to make peace with eating what was formally "illegal" to begin with. The help here is so wonderful! Sincerely, Ann

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much to all of you for your really supportive, helpful thoughts.Physical therapy report on my Achilles is hopeful. Ill-timed flare-up of old injury. Stretching/strengthening exercises twice a day, therapist twice a week, I can walk as tolerated, but should wait on backpack training for my Appalachian Trail hike (which she thinks I can probably start as planned in May), additional weight wouldn't be good right now. This puts me, again, in "diet" mentality..... I'm already carrying the equivalent of a weekend pack just in extra body weight, shouldn't I lose that to take the stress off my feet?? I'm fighting with myself: my feet are used to my body weight but wouldn't be used to the equivalent in a backpack.

No running for 2 weeks.GACK!!! I'll gain more weight..... I need to calm down. I am not going to restrict my food, I need good nutrition. I am not going to weigh myself, I'll just panic. I didn't get to check the files for books before I left. Library had nothing, absolutely nothing, resembling IE, Diets Don't Work, Thin Within, or any of the ones I've heard of. EVERYTHING was diet, diet, diet. Instead I took out a book on wilderness survival :-)Thank you, everyone!Ellie

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much to all of you for your really supportive, helpful thoughts.Physical therapy report on my Achilles is hopeful. Ill-timed flare-up of old injury. Stretching/strengthening exercises twice a day, therapist twice a week, I can walk as tolerated, but should wait on backpack training for my Appalachian Trail hike (which she thinks I can probably start as planned in May), additional weight wouldn't be good right now. This puts me, again, in "diet" mentality..... I'm already carrying the equivalent of a weekend pack just in extra body weight, shouldn't I lose that to take the stress off my feet?? I'm fighting with myself: my feet are used to my body weight but wouldn't be used to the equivalent in a backpack.

No running for 2 weeks.GACK!!! I'll gain more weight..... I need to calm down. I am not going to restrict my food, I need good nutrition. I am not going to weigh myself, I'll just panic. I didn't get to check the files for books before I left. Library had nothing, absolutely nothing, resembling IE, Diets Don't Work, Thin Within, or any of the ones I've heard of. EVERYTHING was diet, diet, diet. Instead I took out a book on wilderness survival :-)Thank you, everyone!Ellie

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much to all of you for your really supportive, helpful thoughts.Physical therapy report on my Achilles is hopeful. Ill-timed flare-up of old injury. Stretching/strengthening exercises twice a day, therapist twice a week, I can walk as tolerated, but should wait on backpack training for my Appalachian Trail hike (which she thinks I can probably start as planned in May), additional weight wouldn't be good right now. This puts me, again, in "diet" mentality..... I'm already carrying the equivalent of a weekend pack just in extra body weight, shouldn't I lose that to take the stress off my feet?? I'm fighting with myself: my feet are used to my body weight but wouldn't be used to the equivalent in a backpack.

No running for 2 weeks.GACK!!! I'll gain more weight..... I need to calm down. I am not going to restrict my food, I need good nutrition. I am not going to weigh myself, I'll just panic. I didn't get to check the files for books before I left. Library had nothing, absolutely nothing, resembling IE, Diets Don't Work, Thin Within, or any of the ones I've heard of. EVERYTHING was diet, diet, diet. Instead I took out a book on wilderness survival :-)Thank you, everyone!Ellie

[Guest guest]

I was the same way with ice cream. I now always have it in the freezer but the

tub I have now has been in there since before Christmas. I have it when I want

it but I don't want it all the time.

Alana

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

--- Original Message ---

Sent: January 19, 2012 1/19/12

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re: Bad thing

 

Ann, a little thing, but big help for me was to hear Gillian (group owner & IE

coach) share that she prefers to being in CHARGE over being in 'control'. In

charge places all the decision power in YOUR hands while in control hawks back

to forcing yourself to do X. I have a strong negative reaction to being forced

to do things so trying to tag that need upon myself ALWAYS back fires and causes

mega rebellion in me.

Chocolate was my main 'adversary' when I decided to tackle legalizing. I ate it,

LOTS of it! First in a rather 'defiant' out-in-the-open, in-YOUR (who's really?

mine or the worlds?!?) - face mode. My inner rebel had a field day but also was

long pestered by diet mentality gremlins alllll the way. I thought I bought LOTS

each week to 'stock up', but it was all gone by the time I returned to the store

for more. This went on for months (I'm slow to believe/trust?) until I FINALLY

got to where I had NO interest in eating chocolate. Chocolate remains a

'darling' of mine, but I don't have the love-hate relationship with it that I

used to have. Now its simply something that I indulge in when I get a craving

for it and have no interest in other times. And I'm also much more picky about

it too. One thing remains the same for me - if I try to resist it, I am

immediately focused on it. Tossing a 'crumb' at my beast works so much better

for me than to dragon slay without heart.

BEST to you as you tackle your demons. Don't forget - you are mighty! :-)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another

weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE,

but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is

concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans

getting tighter each day. I donated my " larger " jeans to a thrift store a couple

of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have

regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that

initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this " freedom " of no

restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so

nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is

seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on.

>  

> I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the

numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going

on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to

overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true " binges " , still I'm eating

more than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong

the past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do

that, the only thing preventing me from it.

>  

> I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we

handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much

overtake us?

>  

> Ann

>

[Guest guest]

I was the same way with ice cream. I now always have it in the freezer but the

tub I have now has been in there since before Christmas. I have it when I want

it but I don't want it all the time.

Alana

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

--- Original Message ---

Sent: January 19, 2012 1/19/12

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: Re: Bad thing

 

Ann, a little thing, but big help for me was to hear Gillian (group owner & IE

coach) share that she prefers to being in CHARGE over being in 'control'. In

charge places all the decision power in YOUR hands while in control hawks back

to forcing yourself to do X. I have a strong negative reaction to being forced

to do things so trying to tag that need upon myself ALWAYS back fires and causes

mega rebellion in me.

Chocolate was my main 'adversary' when I decided to tackle legalizing. I ate it,

LOTS of it! First in a rather 'defiant' out-in-the-open, in-YOUR (who's really?

mine or the worlds?!?) - face mode. My inner rebel had a field day but also was

long pestered by diet mentality gremlins alllll the way. I thought I bought LOTS

each week to 'stock up', but it was all gone by the time I returned to the store

for more. This went on for months (I'm slow to believe/trust?) until I FINALLY

got to where I had NO interest in eating chocolate. Chocolate remains a

'darling' of mine, but I don't have the love-hate relationship with it that I

used to have. Now its simply something that I indulge in when I get a craving

for it and have no interest in other times. And I'm also much more picky about

it too. One thing remains the same for me - if I try to resist it, I am

immediately focused on it. Tossing a 'crumb' at my beast works so much better

for me than to dragon slay without heart.

BEST to you as you tackle your demons. Don't forget - you are mighty! :-)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another

weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE,

but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is

concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans

getting tighter each day. I donated my " larger " jeans to a thrift store a couple

of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have

regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that

initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this " freedom " of no

restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so

nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is

seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on.

>  

> I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the

numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going

on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to

overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true " binges " , still I'm eating

more than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong

the past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do

that, the only thing preventing me from it.

>  

> I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to we

handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much

overtake us?

>  

> Ann

>

[Guest guest]

Ellie, I hope your Achilles is going to be fine. As for the books, it sounds as if your library and mine are on in the same. They never have a book I'm actually wanting, but they do interlibrary loans. I've resorted to those a time or two. Your library probably does the same and can borrow from another library for you. You may be able to buy the IE book online at a decent price, also. I ordered mine at a decent price from ebay a long time ago. I've since gotten rid of it (kicking myself now). I'm a cheapskate and don't like to spend a lot of money on books. I was fortunate to find a copy of Thin Within at a thrift store a few years ago. If I hadn't given it away already, I'd have been glad for

you to have it. I made a copy of the principles from the book before getting rid of it. I also have the principles of IE saved, as well. I'll be happy to share them with you, if you'd like? Ann To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Bad thing

Thanks so much to all of you for your really supportive, helpful thoughts.Physical therapy report on my Achilles is hopeful. Ill-timed flare-up of old injury. Stretching/strengthening exercises twice a day, therapist twice a week, I can walk as tolerated, but should wait on backpack training for my Appalachian Trail hike (which she thinks I can probably start as planned in May), additional weight wouldn't be good right now. This puts me, again, in "diet" mentality..... I'm already carrying the equivalent of a weekend pack just in extra body weight, shouldn't I lose that to take the stress off my feet?? I'm fighting with myself: my feet are used to my body weight but wouldn't be used to the equivalent in a backpack.

No running for 2 weeks.GACK!!! I'll gain more weight..... I need to calm down. I am not going to restrict my food, I need good nutrition. I am not going to weigh myself, I'll just panic. I didn't get to check the files for books before I left. Library had nothing, absolutely nothing, resembling IE, Diets Don't Work, Thin Within, or any of the ones I've heard of. EVERYTHING was diet, diet, diet. Instead I took out a book on wilderness survival :-)Thank you, everyone!Ellie

[Guest guest]

Ellie, I hope your Achilles is going to be fine. As for the books, it sounds as if your library and mine are on in the same. They never have a book I'm actually wanting, but they do interlibrary loans. I've resorted to those a time or two. Your library probably does the same and can borrow from another library for you. You may be able to buy the IE book online at a decent price, also. I ordered mine at a decent price from ebay a long time ago. I've since gotten rid of it (kicking myself now). I'm a cheapskate and don't like to spend a lot of money on books. I was fortunate to find a copy of Thin Within at a thrift store a few years ago. If I hadn't given it away already, I'd have been glad for

you to have it. I made a copy of the principles from the book before getting rid of it. I also have the principles of IE saved, as well. I'll be happy to share them with you, if you'd like? Ann To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Bad thing

Thanks so much to all of you for your really supportive, helpful thoughts.Physical therapy report on my Achilles is hopeful. Ill-timed flare-up of old injury. Stretching/strengthening exercises twice a day, therapist twice a week, I can walk as tolerated, but should wait on backpack training for my Appalachian Trail hike (which she thinks I can probably start as planned in May), additional weight wouldn't be good right now. This puts me, again, in "diet" mentality..... I'm already carrying the equivalent of a weekend pack just in extra body weight, shouldn't I lose that to take the stress off my feet?? I'm fighting with myself: my feet are used to my body weight but wouldn't be used to the equivalent in a backpack.

No running for 2 weeks.GACK!!! I'll gain more weight..... I need to calm down. I am not going to restrict my food, I need good nutrition. I am not going to weigh myself, I'll just panic. I didn't get to check the files for books before I left. Library had nothing, absolutely nothing, resembling IE, Diets Don't Work, Thin Within, or any of the ones I've heard of. EVERYTHING was diet, diet, diet. Instead I took out a book on wilderness survival :-)Thank you, everyone!Ellie

[Guest guest]

I got a FREE copy of IE at Paperbackswap.com. The only costs are sending books

to other members, but when they send them to you its FREE! I'm sure Overcoming

Overeating and many others are listed there too.

Katcha

> may be able to buy the IE book online at a decent price, also. I ordered mine

at a decent price ... I'm a cheapskate and don't like to spend a lot of money

on books.

> Ann

[Guest guest]

I got a FREE copy of IE at Paperbackswap.com. The only costs are sending books

to other members, but when they send them to you its FREE! I'm sure Overcoming

Overeating and many others are listed there too.

Katcha

> may be able to buy the IE book online at a decent price, also. I ordered mine

at a decent price ... I'm a cheapskate and don't like to spend a lot of money

on books.

> Ann

[Guest guest]

Katcha, I'd thought a long time ago about joining up at that site, but never got around to it, then slipped my mind. Thank you for the reminder! Ann To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent:

Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Bad thing

I got a FREE copy of IE at Paperbackswap.com. The only costs are sending books to other members, but when they send them to you its FREE! I'm sure Overcoming Overeating and many others are listed there too.

Katcha

> may be able to buy the IE book online at a decent price, also. I ordered mine at a decent price ... I'm a cheapskate and don't like to spend a lot of money on books.

> Ann

[Guest guest]

Katcha, I'd thought a long time ago about joining up at that site, but never got around to it, then slipped my mind. Thank you for the reminder! Ann To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent:

Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Bad thing

I got a FREE copy of IE at Paperbackswap.com. The only costs are sending books to other members, but when they send them to you its FREE! I'm sure Overcoming Overeating and many others are listed there too.

Katcha

> may be able to buy the IE book online at a decent price, also. I ordered mine at a decent price ... I'm a cheapskate and don't like to spend a lot of money on books.

> Ann

[Guest guest]

Katcha, I'd thought a long time ago about joining up at that site, but never got around to it, then slipped my mind. Thank you for the reminder! Ann To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent:

Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Bad thing

I got a FREE copy of IE at Paperbackswap.com. The only costs are sending books to other members, but when they send them to you its FREE! I'm sure Overcoming Overeating and many others are listed there too.

Katcha

> may be able to buy the IE book online at a decent price, also. I ordered mine at a decent price ... I'm a cheapskate and don't like to spend a lot of money on books.

> Ann

[Guest guest]

It's true - control is the language of the diet police which the diet rebel

knows all too well. And for me too, the moment I resist, the battle is lost.

Sigh.

Sandarah

> >

> > Ellie, I know just how you feel about wondering if you should go on another

weight loss program. I've recently come off of counting calories and back to IE,

but I can't seem to get myself under control either, where chocolate is

concerned. Not only chocolate, but also high carb foods and I can feel my jeans

getting tighter each day. I donated my " larger " jeans to a thrift store a couple

of weeks ago, and I told my husband yesterday that I am now starting to have

regrets about it, because my jeans are very snug now. I understand that

initially I may gain a little weight with giving myself this " freedom " of no

restrictions, but being out of control with certain foods is making me so

nervous. I don't want to restrict anything, but having these things around is

seeming impossible to avoid overdoing on.

> >  

> > I gave my calorie counter book away recently, because like you, adding the

numbers constantly drove me crazy and feeling so restricted really had me going

on outrageous binges. But after stopping with the counting cals, I'm tending to

overeat anyway, though I wouldn't call it true " binges " , still I'm eating more

than I should. The idea to start counting calories again has been strong the

past couple of days, but I know the binges will start again, should I do that,

the only thing preventing me from it.

> >  

> > I could use some advice from others who have been in the same boat. How to

we handle legalizing all foods, and yet not let those foods we crave so much

overtake us?

> >  

> > Ann

> >

>