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I believe Dr. Oz was talking about some people using worms in their Crohn's disease. I *do not* think he said they were naturally found in the body. But it's a treatment being used to get extra mucous in the intestines to help speed the healing of the gut (I think)

I don't know if it was whipworm, but maybe. Google worm and crohn's.

 

@Christel: Where in the world are you getting this information? If you even try to Google " Whipworm benefits " or Whipworm IgA " or " Whipworm Amazingness " You get NOTHING except " HELP! I'm Infected---Get these sucka's OUT! "

I cannot Google and find ONE benefit!?

From One website:

Symptoms of Whipworm

The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Whipworm includes the 8 symptoms listed below:

* No symptoms

* Symptoms of intestinal infestation:

o Intermittent stomach pain

o Bloody stools

o Diarrhea

o Weight loss

o Bloody diarrhea

o Rectal prolapse

This list really doesn't support any claim of benefits! I can't believe that we need to welcome whipworms with our " IgA deficient open arms " and hope they will " give life " to us.

???

>

> actually it BEING the norm can means we are meant to co-exist, which is the point of the whip worms, they keep the mucus in the gut like it should (IGA lining) which you are also linking into the vit A discussion. it being the norm and people NOT having problems WITH having them and our kids being LOW in them and having issues WITH OUT Them suggests we NEED them for proper health.....they treat by taking the the eggs of the whip worms which hatch on their way down and take root (and before you get grossed out- it's really no different then talking about probiotics) it's taking something that is in all bodies (again we ALL have bacteria in our body, we all have yeast in our body, we all have worms in our bodies, we all have parasites in our bodies) its not just kids seeing benefits with the whip worms eggs, it also adults, those with IBD and IBS completely better when reinhibited.....the theory is from it allowing the body to have the mucus lineing that the person can't produce and is our IGA production then needing this and THIS is why we are low when we have IGA issues....

>

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> From: T Lynn

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:26 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

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>

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> Just because something is " the norm " , it does not necessarily make it Ok or healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in great abundance.

>

> When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and Stan catching that.

>

> I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency brain surgery for a " tumor " that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples!

> So this is something " NT " 's may be dealing with as well. Crazy.

>

> -Tammy

>

>

>

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> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

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>

>

> I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......

>

>

>

> From: allrpossible@...

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

>

>

>

> I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like

> microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in

> all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he

> can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been

> discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the

> antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural

> things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still

> unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all

> pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also,

> keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation

> are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having

> worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of

> developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be

> aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also,

> Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism

> docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that

> knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

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The page I was reading last night over on curezone said that one of the CURES for a worm (tapeworm maybe) was high dose CoQ10. ???

 

I have heard that parasites eat folic acid, B12 and coQ10. This could account for both speech delays and mitochondrial disfunction.

> > > > My son is only about 2 weeks into his worm protocol, but we are optimistic for great things (he potty trained in 24 hours.) We have actually stopped his other supplements b/c I think many are feeding the worms and will resume once we are further along.

> > > >

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The page I was reading last night over on curezone said that one of the CURES for a worm (tapeworm maybe) was high dose CoQ10. ???

 

I have heard that parasites eat folic acid, B12 and coQ10. This could account for both speech delays and mitochondrial disfunction.

> > > > My son is only about 2 weeks into his worm protocol, but we are optimistic for great things (he potty trained in 24 hours.) We have actually stopped his other supplements b/c I think many are feeding the worms and will resume once we are further along.

> > > >

> > > > Caryn

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I don't necessarily think the worms causing autism are in the digestive tract.

This is why DANs are missing them.

>

> I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our

bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI

issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you

can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have

that NT kids don't have......

>

>

>

> From: allrpossible@...

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

>

>

>

> I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like

> microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in

> all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he

> can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been

> discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the

> antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural

> things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still

> unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all

> pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also,

> keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation

> are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having

> worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of

> developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be

> aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also,

> Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism

> docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that

> knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

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I don't necessarily think the worms causing autism are in the digestive tract.

This is why DANs are missing them.

>

> I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our

bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI

issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you

can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have

that NT kids don't have......

>

>

>

> From: allrpossible@...

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

>

>

>

> I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like

> microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in

> all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he

> can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been

> discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the

> antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural

> things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still

> unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all

> pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also,

> keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation

> are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having

> worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of

> developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be

> aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also,

> Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism

> docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that

> knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

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I agree. I think we have let the norm get so far from normal most of us accept

illness as normal. This putting worms in peoples' bodies really sounds like

whacked out science to me. A parasite that attaches to the body and sucks out

oxygen, glucose and blood has consequences. It seems to me thr researcher got

a " bright " idea that lack of worms created the problems and went with it, unable

to look past anything but his own theory.

Kinda like some researcher decided that mercury in babies was ok. We have all

seen where researchers get focused on their own cause and can make anything they

create look good.

Granted, the worms may be doing some good (a few people report relief of

symptoms) but to what extent is the rest of the body suffering? Why use a known

parasite that can and does cause illness when giving the body something it needs

and is lacking would accomplish the same end?

Kinda like the really expensive drug for Alzheimers they created cause there was

sooo much of a certain peptide in the brains of Alzheimers patients that they

assumed it must be the cause ! Only when given this drug the Alzheimers got

worse and many died. Ooops. Turns out the amyloid beta peptides were protecting

the brains.

I think what this worm researcher did (besides the inability to get past his

own theory) and so many others do, is look at portions of the body in isolation.

They isolate the GI tract, the liver, the reproductive organs, etc. They fail to

consider the body as a whole.

The end result for worm theory is that it helps the intestine create mucus.

Colitis is thought to be a lack of mucus. Iodine deficient bodies cant creat

mucus as efficiently as iodine sufficient bodies.

Need mucus? Got Iodine?

Cheryl

>

> Just because something is " the norm " ,  it does not necessarily make it Ok or

> healthy.  Why are GI kids low in whipworm?  Could be due to alot of

things. 

> Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off.  Bigger, stronger

> invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities.  With that

> said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems

> because  their bodies are  healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a

safe

> level.  Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not

> handle the same burden as an NT.  So, just in the same way many of our

children

> will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would,

I'm

> sure the effects would be the same with parasites.  The majority of nt's are

> probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements.  A chronically

> constipated child is a perfect host.  A child with leaky gut is a perfect

host

> as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut.  These

> parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in

> great abundance.   

>

>

> When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be

> convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for  and

> Stan catching that.

>

>   I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency

> brain surgery for a " tumor " that turned out to be a worm residing on her

brain. 

> The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors

> seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! 

> So this is something " NT " 's may be dealing with as well.   Crazy.

>

> -Tammy

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

>

>  

> I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our

> bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI

> issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment.  see

you

> can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have

> that NT kids don't have......

>

>

>

> From: allrpossible@...

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

>  

> I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like

> microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in

> all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he

> can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been

> discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the

> antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural

> things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still

> unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all

> pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also,

> keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation

> are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having

> worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of

> developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be

> aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also,

> Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism

> docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that

> knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

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I agree. I think we have let the norm get so far from normal most of us accept

illness as normal. This putting worms in peoples' bodies really sounds like

whacked out science to me. A parasite that attaches to the body and sucks out

oxygen, glucose and blood has consequences. It seems to me thr researcher got

a " bright " idea that lack of worms created the problems and went with it, unable

to look past anything but his own theory.

Kinda like some researcher decided that mercury in babies was ok. We have all

seen where researchers get focused on their own cause and can make anything they

create look good.

Granted, the worms may be doing some good (a few people report relief of

symptoms) but to what extent is the rest of the body suffering? Why use a known

parasite that can and does cause illness when giving the body something it needs

and is lacking would accomplish the same end?

Kinda like the really expensive drug for Alzheimers they created cause there was

sooo much of a certain peptide in the brains of Alzheimers patients that they

assumed it must be the cause ! Only when given this drug the Alzheimers got

worse and many died. Ooops. Turns out the amyloid beta peptides were protecting

the brains.

I think what this worm researcher did (besides the inability to get past his

own theory) and so many others do, is look at portions of the body in isolation.

They isolate the GI tract, the liver, the reproductive organs, etc. They fail to

consider the body as a whole.

The end result for worm theory is that it helps the intestine create mucus.

Colitis is thought to be a lack of mucus. Iodine deficient bodies cant creat

mucus as efficiently as iodine sufficient bodies.

Need mucus? Got Iodine?

Cheryl

>

> Just because something is " the norm " ,  it does not necessarily make it Ok or

> healthy.  Why are GI kids low in whipworm?  Could be due to alot of

things. 

> Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off.  Bigger, stronger

> invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities.  With that

> said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems

> because  their bodies are  healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a

safe

> level.  Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not

> handle the same burden as an NT.  So, just in the same way many of our

children

> will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would,

I'm

> sure the effects would be the same with parasites.  The majority of nt's are

> probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements.  A chronically

> constipated child is a perfect host.  A child with leaky gut is a perfect

host

> as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut.  These

> parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in

> great abundance.   

>

>

> When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be

> convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for  and

> Stan catching that.

>

>   I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency

> brain surgery for a " tumor " that turned out to be a worm residing on her

brain. 

> The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors

> seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! 

> So this is something " NT " 's may be dealing with as well.   Crazy.

>

> -Tammy

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

>

>  

> I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our

> bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI

> issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment.  see

you

> can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have

> that NT kids don't have......

>

>

>

> From: allrpossible@...

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

>  

> I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like

> microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in

> all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he

> can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been

> discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the

> antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural

> things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still

> unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all

> pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also,

> keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation

> are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having

> worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of

> developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be

> aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also,

> Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism

> docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that

> knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

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http://autismtso.com/about/the_story/

Here's the info about the whip worms and autism. It really is interesting reading, but I don't know where it stands today :)

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 10:02:11 AMSubject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I agree. I think we have let the norm get so far from normal most of us accept illness as normal. This putting worms in peoples' bodies really sounds like whacked out science to me. A parasite that attaches to the body and sucks out oxygen, glucose and blood has consequences. It seems to me thr researcher got a "bright" idea that lack of worms created the problems and went with it, unable to look past anything but his own theory. Kinda like some researcher decided that mercury in babies was ok. We have all seen where researchers get focused on their own cause and can make anything they create look good. Granted, the worms may be doing some good (a few people report relief of symptoms) but to what extent is the rest of the body suffering? Why use a known parasite that can and does cause illness when giving the body something it needs and is lacking would accomplish the same end? Kinda like the really expensive drug for

Alzheimers they created cause there was sooo much of a certain peptide in the brains of Alzheimers patients that they assumed it must be the cause ! Only when given this drug the Alzheimers got worse and many died. Ooops. Turns out the amyloid beta peptides were protecting the brains. I think what this worm researcher did (besides the inability to get past his own theory) and so many others do, is look at portions of the body in isolation. They isolate the GI tract, the liver, the reproductive organs, etc. They fail to consider the body as a whole. The end result for worm theory is that it helps the intestine create mucus. Colitis is thought to be a lack of mucus. Iodine deficient bodies cant creat mucus as efficiently as iodine sufficient bodies. Need mucus? Got Iodine?Cheryl >> Just because something is "the norm",  it does not necessarily make it Ok or > healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. > Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger > invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that > said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems > because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe > level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not > handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children > will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels

more than an NT would, I'm > sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are > probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically > constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host > as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These > parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in > great abundance.   > > > When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be > convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and > Stan catching that.> >  I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency > brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. > The

surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors > seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! > So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well.  Crazy.> > -Tammy> > > > ________________________________> > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> >  > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our > bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI > issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a

treatment. see you > can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have > that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...>  > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the

natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi

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Here's the info about the whip worms and autism. It really is interesting reading, but I don't know where it stands today :)

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 10:02:11 AMSubject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I agree. I think we have let the norm get so far from normal most of us accept illness as normal. This putting worms in peoples' bodies really sounds like whacked out science to me. A parasite that attaches to the body and sucks out oxygen, glucose and blood has consequences. It seems to me thr researcher got a "bright" idea that lack of worms created the problems and went with it, unable to look past anything but his own theory. Kinda like some researcher decided that mercury in babies was ok. We have all seen where researchers get focused on their own cause and can make anything they create look good. Granted, the worms may be doing some good (a few people report relief of symptoms) but to what extent is the rest of the body suffering? Why use a known parasite that can and does cause illness when giving the body something it needs and is lacking would accomplish the same end? Kinda like the really expensive drug for

Alzheimers they created cause there was sooo much of a certain peptide in the brains of Alzheimers patients that they assumed it must be the cause ! Only when given this drug the Alzheimers got worse and many died. Ooops. Turns out the amyloid beta peptides were protecting the brains. I think what this worm researcher did (besides the inability to get past his own theory) and so many others do, is look at portions of the body in isolation. They isolate the GI tract, the liver, the reproductive organs, etc. They fail to consider the body as a whole. The end result for worm theory is that it helps the intestine create mucus. Colitis is thought to be a lack of mucus. Iodine deficient bodies cant creat mucus as efficiently as iodine sufficient bodies. Need mucus? Got Iodine?Cheryl >> Just because something is "the norm",  it does not necessarily make it Ok or > healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. > Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger > invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that > said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems > because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe > level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not > handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children > will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels

more than an NT would, I'm > sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are > probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically > constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host > as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These > parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in > great abundance.   > > > When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be > convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and > Stan catching that.> >  I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency > brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. > The

surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors > seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! > So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well.  Crazy.> > -Tammy> > > > ________________________________> > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> >  > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our > bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI > issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a

treatment. see you > can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have > that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...>  > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the

natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi

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Well, all iodine dosages are safe. It wont kill people. People take all sorts of

amounts and live! (Yes i am being onery).

12.5mg is considered to be the average daily dosage for a healthy adult person.

A maintenance dosage. So starting at that might be fine. Some people start less,

some start right in at the 50mg Protocol dosage. I started slow.(I was still

scared of iodine back then) I think there is some merit to the theory more is

better for the very damaged. Because with enough iodine the body is able to

remove the debri from the dieoff. So some iodine to kill the stuff and some to

remove what it kills. Cancer patients take from 100 to 200 mg.

You have to keep in mind there will be die off in the begining and if feeling

tired and crappy isnt an option for a few days starting slower might avoid that.

Depends on damage and how well the liver is working and making sure you have the

companion supplements especially Vit C and Natural Salt to avoid discomfort.

The amount you will need to reach sufficiency will depend on how deficient you

are. If you are experiencing symptoms then it's likely you are very deficient.

Taking 12.5mg will eventually make you have enough iodine, but it will take

longer than if you take 25mg or 50mg.

It really depends on how much your body needs. I feel really good at between

25mg to 50mg. Most days i get 50mg. I still have some liver congestion

occasionaly (mostly when i eat lots of fat, i admit i eat bad sometimes!). Other

than that i feel like i am getting healthier by the day. I am losing weight

still(slower than the begining), I have no IBS, I have no arthritis. No colds.

Little anxiety. I have no depression. My hair is getting thick again. I dont

have toe fungus. I think i still have Candida and probably need a short round of

higher dosage iodine to cure it faster. And now i think (maybe just by the power

of suggestion) i probably have some resistent parasites that probably need a

higher dosage or Black Walnut hulls to get out :)

So the dosages is up to you. Assess your damaged body,it's symptoms and that of

your son. Consider size of body (Adult,teen,child,toddler,infant) Look at

symptoms of iodine deficiency, overweight, digestive issues, depression,

anxiety, panic, OCD, recurrant colds, sinus, respiatory illness (long list).

After the initial die off period let how you feel guide you. If you are feeling

good at 12.5mg, have lots of energy, no colds, no infections, happy thoughts and

things are healing, the dosage is probably good for a slow steady recovery and

to gain sufficency. If not, you probably need more.

Cheryl

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> Cheryl, is 12.5 mgs a safe dose of iodine? I am struggling with hair loss and

waiting on labs. My son is hypothyroid. Just wondering where to begin at?

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Well, all iodine dosages are safe. It wont kill people. People take all sorts of

amounts and live! (Yes i am being onery).

12.5mg is considered to be the average daily dosage for a healthy adult person.

A maintenance dosage. So starting at that might be fine. Some people start less,

some start right in at the 50mg Protocol dosage. I started slow.(I was still

scared of iodine back then) I think there is some merit to the theory more is

better for the very damaged. Because with enough iodine the body is able to

remove the debri from the dieoff. So some iodine to kill the stuff and some to

remove what it kills. Cancer patients take from 100 to 200 mg.

You have to keep in mind there will be die off in the begining and if feeling

tired and crappy isnt an option for a few days starting slower might avoid that.

Depends on damage and how well the liver is working and making sure you have the

companion supplements especially Vit C and Natural Salt to avoid discomfort.

The amount you will need to reach sufficiency will depend on how deficient you

are. If you are experiencing symptoms then it's likely you are very deficient.

Taking 12.5mg will eventually make you have enough iodine, but it will take

longer than if you take 25mg or 50mg.

It really depends on how much your body needs. I feel really good at between

25mg to 50mg. Most days i get 50mg. I still have some liver congestion

occasionaly (mostly when i eat lots of fat, i admit i eat bad sometimes!). Other

than that i feel like i am getting healthier by the day. I am losing weight

still(slower than the begining), I have no IBS, I have no arthritis. No colds.

Little anxiety. I have no depression. My hair is getting thick again. I dont

have toe fungus. I think i still have Candida and probably need a short round of

higher dosage iodine to cure it faster. And now i think (maybe just by the power

of suggestion) i probably have some resistent parasites that probably need a

higher dosage or Black Walnut hulls to get out :)

So the dosages is up to you. Assess your damaged body,it's symptoms and that of

your son. Consider size of body (Adult,teen,child,toddler,infant) Look at

symptoms of iodine deficiency, overweight, digestive issues, depression,

anxiety, panic, OCD, recurrant colds, sinus, respiatory illness (long list).

After the initial die off period let how you feel guide you. If you are feeling

good at 12.5mg, have lots of energy, no colds, no infections, happy thoughts and

things are healing, the dosage is probably good for a slow steady recovery and

to gain sufficency. If not, you probably need more.

Cheryl

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> Cheryl, is 12.5 mgs a safe dose of iodine? I am struggling with hair loss and

waiting on labs. My son is hypothyroid. Just wondering where to begin at?

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no he showed how they had researched contries with no GI issues and to compare and that was how they found it in health subjects verses the sick subjects, they showed PICTURES Of it......it was VERY interesting! its how they came up with the treatment

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 9:45 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I believe Dr. Oz was talking about some people using worms in their Crohn's disease. I *do not* think he said they were naturally found in the body. But it's a treatment being used to get extra mucous in the intestines to help speed the healing of the gut (I think)I don't know if it was whipworm, but maybe. Google worm and crohn's.

@Christel: Where in the world are you getting this information? If you even try to Google "Whipworm benefits" or Whipworm IgA" or "Whipworm Amazingness" You get NOTHING except "HELP! I'm Infected---Get these sucka's OUT!"I cannot Google and find ONE benefit!?From One website:Symptoms of WhipwormThe list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Whipworm includes the 8 symptoms listed below:* No symptoms* Symptoms of intestinal infestation:o Intermittent stomach paino Bloody stoolso Diarrheao Weight losso Bloody diarrheao Rectal prolapse This list really doesn't support any claim of benefits! I can't believe that we need to welcome whipworms with our "IgA deficient open arms" and hope they will "give life" to us.???

>

> actually it BEING the norm can means we are meant to co-exist, which is the point of the whip worms, they keep the mucus in the gut like it should (IGA lining) which you are also linking into the vit A discussion. it being the norm and people NOT having problems WITH having them and our kids being LOW in them and having issues WITH OUT Them suggests we NEED them for proper health.....they treat by taking the the eggs of the whip worms which hatch on their way down and take root (and before you get grossed out- it's really no different then talking about probiotics) it's taking something that is in all bodies (again we ALL have bacteria in our body, we all have yeast in our body, we all have worms in our bodies, we all have parasites in our bodies) its not just kids seeing benefits with the whip worms eggs, it also adults, those with IBD and IBS completely better when reinhibited.....the theory is from it allowing the body to have the mucus lineing that the person can't produce and is our IGA production then needing this and THIS is why we are low when we have IGA issues....> > > From: T Lynn > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:26 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > > Just because something is "the norm", it does not necessarily make it Ok or healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in great abundance. > > When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and Stan catching that.> > I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! > So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well. Crazy.> > -Tammy> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@...

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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no he showed how they had researched contries with no GI issues and to compare and that was how they found it in health subjects verses the sick subjects, they showed PICTURES Of it......it was VERY interesting! its how they came up with the treatment

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 9:45 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I believe Dr. Oz was talking about some people using worms in their Crohn's disease. I *do not* think he said they were naturally found in the body. But it's a treatment being used to get extra mucous in the intestines to help speed the healing of the gut (I think)I don't know if it was whipworm, but maybe. Google worm and crohn's.

@Christel: Where in the world are you getting this information? If you even try to Google "Whipworm benefits" or Whipworm IgA" or "Whipworm Amazingness" You get NOTHING except "HELP! I'm Infected---Get these sucka's OUT!"I cannot Google and find ONE benefit!?From One website:Symptoms of WhipwormThe list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Whipworm includes the 8 symptoms listed below:* No symptoms* Symptoms of intestinal infestation:o Intermittent stomach paino Bloody stoolso Diarrheao Weight losso Bloody diarrheao Rectal prolapse This list really doesn't support any claim of benefits! I can't believe that we need to welcome whipworms with our "IgA deficient open arms" and hope they will "give life" to us.???

>

> actually it BEING the norm can means we are meant to co-exist, which is the point of the whip worms, they keep the mucus in the gut like it should (IGA lining) which you are also linking into the vit A discussion. it being the norm and people NOT having problems WITH having them and our kids being LOW in them and having issues WITH OUT Them suggests we NEED them for proper health.....they treat by taking the the eggs of the whip worms which hatch on their way down and take root (and before you get grossed out- it's really no different then talking about probiotics) it's taking something that is in all bodies (again we ALL have bacteria in our body, we all have yeast in our body, we all have worms in our bodies, we all have parasites in our bodies) its not just kids seeing benefits with the whip worms eggs, it also adults, those with IBD and IBS completely better when reinhibited.....the theory is from it allowing the body to have the mucus lineing that the person can't produce and is our IGA production then needing this and THIS is why we are low when we have IGA issues....> > > From: T Lynn > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:26 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > > Just because something is "the norm", it does not necessarily make it Ok or healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in great abundance. > > When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and Stan catching that.> > I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! > So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well. Crazy.> > -Tammy> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@...

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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no he showed how they had researched contries with no GI issues and to compare and that was how they found it in health subjects verses the sick subjects, they showed PICTURES Of it......it was VERY interesting! its how they came up with the treatment

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 9:45 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I believe Dr. Oz was talking about some people using worms in their Crohn's disease. I *do not* think he said they were naturally found in the body. But it's a treatment being used to get extra mucous in the intestines to help speed the healing of the gut (I think)I don't know if it was whipworm, but maybe. Google worm and crohn's.

@Christel: Where in the world are you getting this information? If you even try to Google "Whipworm benefits" or Whipworm IgA" or "Whipworm Amazingness" You get NOTHING except "HELP! I'm Infected---Get these sucka's OUT!"I cannot Google and find ONE benefit!?From One website:Symptoms of WhipwormThe list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Whipworm includes the 8 symptoms listed below:* No symptoms* Symptoms of intestinal infestation:o Intermittent stomach paino Bloody stoolso Diarrheao Weight losso Bloody diarrheao Rectal prolapse This list really doesn't support any claim of benefits! I can't believe that we need to welcome whipworms with our "IgA deficient open arms" and hope they will "give life" to us.???

>

> actually it BEING the norm can means we are meant to co-exist, which is the point of the whip worms, they keep the mucus in the gut like it should (IGA lining) which you are also linking into the vit A discussion. it being the norm and people NOT having problems WITH having them and our kids being LOW in them and having issues WITH OUT Them suggests we NEED them for proper health.....they treat by taking the the eggs of the whip worms which hatch on their way down and take root (and before you get grossed out- it's really no different then talking about probiotics) it's taking something that is in all bodies (again we ALL have bacteria in our body, we all have yeast in our body, we all have worms in our bodies, we all have parasites in our bodies) its not just kids seeing benefits with the whip worms eggs, it also adults, those with IBD and IBS completely better when reinhibited.....the theory is from it allowing the body to have the mucus lineing that the person can't produce and is our IGA production then needing this and THIS is why we are low when we have IGA issues....> > > From: T Lynn > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:26 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > > Just because something is "the norm", it does not necessarily make it Ok or healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in great abundance. > > When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and Stan catching that.> > I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! > So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well. Crazy.> > -Tammy> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@...

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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no it's the LACK of worms in the GI tract missing that are causing issues

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I don't necessarily think the worms causing autism are in the digestive tract. This is why DANs are missing them.>> I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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I don't necessarily think the worms causing autism are in the digestive tract. This is why DANs are missing them.>> I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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no it's the LACK of worms in the GI tract missing that are causing issues

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I don't necessarily think the worms causing autism are in the digestive tract. This is why DANs are missing them.>> I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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Hi Tammy,

When you say you tried iodine and he got very sick, how much iodine, what kind

of iodine and what type of sick?

Not sure about the iodine blood levels. Different docs read results differently,

too. I know testing iodine in the blood is not reliable. Probably because

alot of iodine in the blood can mean either he was unable to uptake it into

cells (cause things like bromide/fluoride/chlorine/metals were displacing the

iodine) or his thyroid is unable to uptake iodine. Might be other reasons.

What was in the foot baths? The bleach smell may have been chlorine coming out.

Did you use distilled water in the baths? Is he taking Valtrex because of known

high virus levels? Is he high in metals too? When you say Valtrex is the only

one he could take, what were the others he couldnt take? (Wondering if something

in them also displaces iodine, like Antibiotics with Fluoride).

Cheryl

>

> Hi Chery.I have tried many, many things for my son, including iodine. He

> got very sick on it,just like everything else I try(except

> valtrex).Yesterday I found some blood work that had been done on my

> son,and his iodine levels where flagged as high.Do you know why his

> would be high? It was not at the time that I tried the iodine on

> him. Last year I got my son a series of foot baths

> and the first few foot baths where so full of a bleach smell you could

> hardly be in the same room.Someone said(maybe it was you) that ,that

> means my son needs more iodine .The body holds onto the bleach if it

> does not have enough iodine. Any thoughts on why his iodine level

> was high? Thank You,Tammy F.

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Hi Tammy,

When you say you tried iodine and he got very sick, how much iodine, what kind

of iodine and what type of sick?

Not sure about the iodine blood levels. Different docs read results differently,

too. I know testing iodine in the blood is not reliable. Probably because

alot of iodine in the blood can mean either he was unable to uptake it into

cells (cause things like bromide/fluoride/chlorine/metals were displacing the

iodine) or his thyroid is unable to uptake iodine. Might be other reasons.

What was in the foot baths? The bleach smell may have been chlorine coming out.

Did you use distilled water in the baths? Is he taking Valtrex because of known

high virus levels? Is he high in metals too? When you say Valtrex is the only

one he could take, what were the others he couldnt take? (Wondering if something

in them also displaces iodine, like Antibiotics with Fluoride).

Cheryl

>

> Hi Chery.I have tried many, many things for my son, including iodine. He

> got very sick on it,just like everything else I try(except

> valtrex).Yesterday I found some blood work that had been done on my

> son,and his iodine levels where flagged as high.Do you know why his

> would be high? It was not at the time that I tried the iodine on

> him. Last year I got my son a series of foot baths

> and the first few foot baths where so full of a bleach smell you could

> hardly be in the same room.Someone said(maybe it was you) that ,that

> means my son needs more iodine .The body holds onto the bleach if it

> does not have enough iodine. Any thoughts on why his iodine level

> was high? Thank You,Tammy F.

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Hi Tammy,

When you say you tried iodine and he got very sick, how much iodine, what kind

of iodine and what type of sick?

Not sure about the iodine blood levels. Different docs read results differently,

too. I know testing iodine in the blood is not reliable. Probably because

alot of iodine in the blood can mean either he was unable to uptake it into

cells (cause things like bromide/fluoride/chlorine/metals were displacing the

iodine) or his thyroid is unable to uptake iodine. Might be other reasons.

What was in the foot baths? The bleach smell may have been chlorine coming out.

Did you use distilled water in the baths? Is he taking Valtrex because of known

high virus levels? Is he high in metals too? When you say Valtrex is the only

one he could take, what were the others he couldnt take? (Wondering if something

in them also displaces iodine, like Antibiotics with Fluoride).

Cheryl

>

> Hi Chery.I have tried many, many things for my son, including iodine. He

> got very sick on it,just like everything else I try(except

> valtrex).Yesterday I found some blood work that had been done on my

> son,and his iodine levels where flagged as high.Do you know why his

> would be high? It was not at the time that I tried the iodine on

> him. Last year I got my son a series of foot baths

> and the first few foot baths where so full of a bleach smell you could

> hardly be in the same room.Someone said(maybe it was you) that ,that

> means my son needs more iodine .The body holds onto the bleach if it

> does not have enough iodine. Any thoughts on why his iodine level

> was high? Thank You,Tammy F.

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This particular worm is not suppose to be in people. This particular worm

causes issues and are removed if found in people. They are not normally in

healthy bodies with good sanitation. The theory is that adding this worm

creates mucous so they are using the one good function of the worm(creating

mucous) to outweigh the bad (sucking of oxygen, blood and glucose) or even

finding the cause of the lack of mucus.

Or am i confused? Read so much about worms in the last few days its a definite

possibility. Probably the worms in my brain!

Cheryl

> >

> > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in

our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI

issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you

can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have

that NT kids don't have......

> >

> >

> >

> > From: allrpossible@

> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like

> > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in

> > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he

> > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been

> > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the

> > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural

> > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still

> > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all

> > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also,

> > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation

> > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having

> > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of

> > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be

> > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also,

> > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism

> > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that

> > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.

> >

> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi N

> >

>

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This particular worm is not suppose to be in people. This particular worm

causes issues and are removed if found in people. They are not normally in

healthy bodies with good sanitation. The theory is that adding this worm

creates mucous so they are using the one good function of the worm(creating

mucous) to outweigh the bad (sucking of oxygen, blood and glucose) or even

finding the cause of the lack of mucus.

Or am i confused? Read so much about worms in the last few days its a definite

possibility. Probably the worms in my brain!

Cheryl

> >

> > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in

our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI

issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you

can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have

that NT kids don't have......

> >

> >

> >

> > From: allrpossible@

> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like

> > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in

> > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he

> > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been

> > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the

> > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural

> > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still

> > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all

> > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also,

> > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation

> > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having

> > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of

> > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be

> > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also,

> > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism

> > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that

> > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.

> >

> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi N

> >

>

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This particular worm is not suppose to be in people. This particular worm

causes issues and are removed if found in people. They are not normally in

healthy bodies with good sanitation. The theory is that adding this worm

creates mucous so they are using the one good function of the worm(creating

mucous) to outweigh the bad (sucking of oxygen, blood and glucose) or even

finding the cause of the lack of mucus.

Or am i confused? Read so much about worms in the last few days its a definite

possibility. Probably the worms in my brain!

Cheryl

> >

> > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in

our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI

issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you

can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have

that NT kids don't have......

> >

> >

> >

> > From: allrpossible@

> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like

> > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in

> > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he

> > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been

> > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the

> > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural

> > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still

> > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all

> > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also,

> > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation

> > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having

> > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of

> > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be

> > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also,

> > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism

> > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that

> > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.

> >

> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi N

> >

>

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yeah but you are assumeing this parasite is doing all this bad stuff. if its doing good stuff its no more wacked out then putting good bacteria or good yeast in you. (probiotics and sacc B) you are also assume this helps a low % of people which the results show much differently. you are also assumeing that the parasite is causing illness when again it isn't. I know families with autism who have done this and seen amazing things (not just GI related) you are also making an assumption that iodine is a solve all for all things. which is absurd to think that one thing will cure all things. if that was the case we would again have whole people walking around and the market of iodine would be flooded. coming from someone with a throid disorder that iodine could have KILLED....this is a scary thing for me to watch you assume that blanket wise this covers all things for all people and solves all medical problems. iodine will not solve and IGA defiency (it's an immune problem) or celiac diesase or metal issues ect. which can be the base root of some of these other issues. you don't live by iodine alone. you have to look at people as individuals and see what is going haywire in THEM, and what things can effect that....and I think I am safe to say that doesn't come back to ONE thing being the defect in all society. for years I have watch drs scream that about one vitamine (like vit D was the crazy a few years back) and that if we all had good levels in that we wouldn't have cancer, or colds, or flu, or autism ect ect ect. they are dangerous band wagons to watch people on. that being said vit D IS important, and we need to look and say ok how are my levels??? same for iondine! but I wouldn't run and say ALL people need iodine and all things going haywire in a body are because all people are low. infact that can do great harm.....look at our vaccination program....life is just simpley NOT a one size fits all shirt! I had to avoid iodine to the place I had to have them REPREP my C-section because they didn't read my birth plan! I could have gone into shock had I not noticed. we as the autism community as a whole are out tring a lot of "wacked out thing" because there are NO ONE answers. HBOT, CHELATION, MASSIVE DIET CHANGES, UNGODLY LEVELS OF PROBIOTICS, GOOD YEAST, TONS OF MEDS AND SUPPLIMENTS, that the world looks as wacked out. are they really??? NO we are healing looking at the individual.....you can't replace iodine in for a lot of those things and expect it suddenly makes autism go away any more then just removing gluten would do. it may help a few areas, but there is a whole big picture to look at, don't get lost In the forest looking at just one tree.....when there is a whole forest infront of you yet to conquire!

From: Cheryl

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 10:02 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

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I agree. I think we have let the norm get so far from normal most of us accept illness as normal. This putting worms in peoples' bodies really sounds like whacked out science to me. A parasite that attaches to the body and sucks out oxygen, glucose and blood has consequences. It seems to me thr researcher got a "bright" idea that lack of worms created the problems and went with it, unable to look past anything but his own theory. Kinda like some researcher decided that mercury in babies was ok. We have all seen where researchers get focused on their own cause and can make anything they create look good. Granted, the worms may be doing some good (a few people report relief of symptoms) but to what extent is the rest of the body suffering? Why use a known parasite that can and does cause illness when giving the body something it needs and is lacking would accomplish the same end? Kinda like the really expensive drug for Alzheimers they created cause there was sooo much of a certain peptide in the brains of Alzheimers patients that they assumed it must be the cause ! Only when given this drug the Alzheimers got worse and many died. Ooops. Turns out the amyloid beta peptides were protecting the brains. I think what this worm researcher did (besides the inability to get past his own theory) and so many others do, is look at portions of the body in isolation. They isolate the GI tract, the liver, the reproductive organs, etc. They fail to consider the body as a whole. The end result for worm theory is that it helps the intestine create mucus. Colitis is thought to be a lack of mucus. Iodine deficient bodies cant creat mucus as efficiently as iodine sufficient bodies. Need mucus? Got Iodine?Cheryl >> Just because something is "the norm",  it does not necessarily make it Ok or > healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. > Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger > invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that > said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems > because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe > level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not > handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children > will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm > sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are > probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically > constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host > as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These > parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in > great abundance.   > > > When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be > convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and > Stan catching that.> >  I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency > brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. > The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors > seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! > So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well.  Crazy.> > -Tammy> > > > ________________________________> > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> >  > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our > bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI > issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you > can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have > that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...>  > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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yeah but you are assumeing this parasite is doing all this bad stuff. if its doing good stuff its no more wacked out then putting good bacteria or good yeast in you. (probiotics and sacc B) you are also assume this helps a low % of people which the results show much differently. you are also assumeing that the parasite is causing illness when again it isn't. I know families with autism who have done this and seen amazing things (not just GI related) you are also making an assumption that iodine is a solve all for all things. which is absurd to think that one thing will cure all things. if that was the case we would again have whole people walking around and the market of iodine would be flooded. coming from someone with a throid disorder that iodine could have KILLED....this is a scary thing for me to watch you assume that blanket wise this covers all things for all people and solves all medical problems. iodine will not solve and IGA defiency (it's an immune problem) or celiac diesase or metal issues ect. which can be the base root of some of these other issues. you don't live by iodine alone. you have to look at people as individuals and see what is going haywire in THEM, and what things can effect that....and I think I am safe to say that doesn't come back to ONE thing being the defect in all society. for years I have watch drs scream that about one vitamine (like vit D was the crazy a few years back) and that if we all had good levels in that we wouldn't have cancer, or colds, or flu, or autism ect ect ect. they are dangerous band wagons to watch people on. that being said vit D IS important, and we need to look and say ok how are my levels??? same for iondine! but I wouldn't run and say ALL people need iodine and all things going haywire in a body are because all people are low. infact that can do great harm.....look at our vaccination program....life is just simpley NOT a one size fits all shirt! I had to avoid iodine to the place I had to have them REPREP my C-section because they didn't read my birth plan! I could have gone into shock had I not noticed. we as the autism community as a whole are out tring a lot of "wacked out thing" because there are NO ONE answers. HBOT, CHELATION, MASSIVE DIET CHANGES, UNGODLY LEVELS OF PROBIOTICS, GOOD YEAST, TONS OF MEDS AND SUPPLIMENTS, that the world looks as wacked out. are they really??? NO we are healing looking at the individual.....you can't replace iodine in for a lot of those things and expect it suddenly makes autism go away any more then just removing gluten would do. it may help a few areas, but there is a whole big picture to look at, don't get lost In the forest looking at just one tree.....when there is a whole forest infront of you yet to conquire!

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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 10:02 AM

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I agree. I think we have let the norm get so far from normal most of us accept illness as normal. This putting worms in peoples' bodies really sounds like whacked out science to me. A parasite that attaches to the body and sucks out oxygen, glucose and blood has consequences. It seems to me thr researcher got a "bright" idea that lack of worms created the problems and went with it, unable to look past anything but his own theory. Kinda like some researcher decided that mercury in babies was ok. We have all seen where researchers get focused on their own cause and can make anything they create look good. Granted, the worms may be doing some good (a few people report relief of symptoms) but to what extent is the rest of the body suffering? Why use a known parasite that can and does cause illness when giving the body something it needs and is lacking would accomplish the same end? Kinda like the really expensive drug for Alzheimers they created cause there was sooo much of a certain peptide in the brains of Alzheimers patients that they assumed it must be the cause ! Only when given this drug the Alzheimers got worse and many died. Ooops. Turns out the amyloid beta peptides were protecting the brains. I think what this worm researcher did (besides the inability to get past his own theory) and so many others do, is look at portions of the body in isolation. They isolate the GI tract, the liver, the reproductive organs, etc. They fail to consider the body as a whole. The end result for worm theory is that it helps the intestine create mucus. Colitis is thought to be a lack of mucus. Iodine deficient bodies cant creat mucus as efficiently as iodine sufficient bodies. Need mucus? Got Iodine?Cheryl >> Just because something is "the norm",  it does not necessarily make it Ok or > healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. > Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger > invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that > said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems > because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe > level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not > handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children > will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm > sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are > probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically > constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host > as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These > parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in > great abundance.   > > > When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be > convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and > Stan catching that.> >  I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency > brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. > The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors > seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! > So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well.  Crazy.> > -Tammy> > > > ________________________________> > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...> >  > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our > bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI > issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you > can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have > that NT kids don't have......> > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...>  > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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