Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Hi, Neil, welcome to the list, sorry you have to join but you'll get good information here. Those numbers of 11-15 are way too high but you can get them down pretty quickly if you lower the amount of carbs you eat. If you cut out the " whites " -- breads and all products made from grain, including pasta, rice, potatos (and all root veggies) in addition to fruits and juices, and the usual sweet stuff, your BGs will go down to the extent that you probably won't need as much insulin. It's a good idea to test frequently and keep good notes of what you eat, how much, and how much insulin you're taking in addition to testing before, one and two hours after eating. This will give you good information. I strongly suggest you get Dr. Bernstein's diabetes Solutions " by richard K. Bernstein, M.D. It's one of the best all-over books on management of diabetes and how to control it. Dr. Bernstein also has a website and the url is http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/index.shtml There's excerpts from his book online as well as lots of other good stuff. Ask any questions, we've all been newbies once. Vicki << nd at 7 days im still at 11-15 bg most of the day, how much longer should this take to go down, alothough i am feeling a lot better now, I was boucning of the walls befor with unbalance... I am eating every 2 hrs and still feel hungry at 30 mins after... will this subside as my weight regains.. thanks in advance neil >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Hi, Neil, welcome to the list, sorry you have to join but you'll get good information here. Those numbers of 11-15 are way too high but you can get them down pretty quickly if you lower the amount of carbs you eat. If you cut out the " whites " -- breads and all products made from grain, including pasta, rice, potatos (and all root veggies) in addition to fruits and juices, and the usual sweet stuff, your BGs will go down to the extent that you probably won't need as much insulin. It's a good idea to test frequently and keep good notes of what you eat, how much, and how much insulin you're taking in addition to testing before, one and two hours after eating. This will give you good information. I strongly suggest you get Dr. Bernstein's diabetes Solutions " by richard K. Bernstein, M.D. It's one of the best all-over books on management of diabetes and how to control it. Dr. Bernstein also has a website and the url is http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/index.shtml There's excerpts from his book online as well as lots of other good stuff. Ask any questions, we've all been newbies once. Vicki << nd at 7 days im still at 11-15 bg most of the day, how much longer should this take to go down, alothough i am feeling a lot better now, I was boucning of the walls befor with unbalance... I am eating every 2 hrs and still feel hungry at 30 mins after... will this subside as my weight regains.. thanks in advance neil >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Oh yes...eating a lowcarb diet will reduce those hunger pangs after about a week, I promise. Vicki << I am eating every 2 hrs and still feel hungry at 30 mins after... will this subside as my weight regains.. thanks in advance >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Oh yes...eating a lowcarb diet will reduce those hunger pangs after about a week, I promise. Vicki << I am eating every 2 hrs and still feel hungry at 30 mins after... will this subside as my weight regains.. thanks in advance >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Oh yes...eating a lowcarb diet will reduce those hunger pangs after about a week, I promise. Vicki << I am eating every 2 hrs and still feel hungry at 30 mins after... will this subside as my weight regains.. thanks in advance >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Get and read " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . Some of it is on the web at www.diabetes_normalsugars.com sounds like you could use the addition of a background insulin, such as Ultra Lente, which is long acting with no appreciable peak. www.diabetes.lilly.com/ for insulin information. A lot of us have reduced our blood sugar by cutting out high carbohydrate foods, such as potatos, rice, breads, grains, cereals, pasta and sugary things, of course. Some " white " foods, as listed, can raise your blood sugar faster than sugar. http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm has the glycemic index and information on it. For most people one gram of carbohydrate can raise your blood sugar 3-5 points, depending on its glycemic factor. Excercise lowers blood sugar very well. I also suggest that you test your blood sugar 8 times per day - upon rising, before meals, 1-2 hours after meals, before bed and before and after exercise. Keep a journal and write everything down - what you eat, blood sugar tests, exercise, meds, etc. This will tell you a lot of information about your body and how it reacts to foods you eat. If you're eating to gain weight, eat fatty foods like nuts, nut butters, meat, cheese, mayo, eggs, tuna - just cut down on the carbs. You can roll ham up in a slice of swiss cheese, for instance. Fatty foods will leave you feeling more satisfied too. You feel hungry because you're eating carbs that spike your blood sugar, then it crashes, making you feel hungry again. I hope you get a handle on your numbers soon. Barb > And at 7 days im still at 11-15 bg most of the day, how much longer > should this take to go down, alothough i am feeling a lot better now, > I was boucning of the walls befor with unbalance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Get and read " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . Some of it is on the web at www.diabetes_normalsugars.com sounds like you could use the addition of a background insulin, such as Ultra Lente, which is long acting with no appreciable peak. www.diabetes.lilly.com/ for insulin information. A lot of us have reduced our blood sugar by cutting out high carbohydrate foods, such as potatos, rice, breads, grains, cereals, pasta and sugary things, of course. Some " white " foods, as listed, can raise your blood sugar faster than sugar. http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm has the glycemic index and information on it. For most people one gram of carbohydrate can raise your blood sugar 3-5 points, depending on its glycemic factor. Excercise lowers blood sugar very well. I also suggest that you test your blood sugar 8 times per day - upon rising, before meals, 1-2 hours after meals, before bed and before and after exercise. Keep a journal and write everything down - what you eat, blood sugar tests, exercise, meds, etc. This will tell you a lot of information about your body and how it reacts to foods you eat. If you're eating to gain weight, eat fatty foods like nuts, nut butters, meat, cheese, mayo, eggs, tuna - just cut down on the carbs. You can roll ham up in a slice of swiss cheese, for instance. Fatty foods will leave you feeling more satisfied too. You feel hungry because you're eating carbs that spike your blood sugar, then it crashes, making you feel hungry again. I hope you get a handle on your numbers soon. Barb > And at 7 days im still at 11-15 bg most of the day, how much longer > should this take to go down, alothough i am feeling a lot better now, > I was boucning of the walls befor with unbalance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Get and read " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . Some of it is on the web at www.diabetes_normalsugars.com sounds like you could use the addition of a background insulin, such as Ultra Lente, which is long acting with no appreciable peak. www.diabetes.lilly.com/ for insulin information. A lot of us have reduced our blood sugar by cutting out high carbohydrate foods, such as potatos, rice, breads, grains, cereals, pasta and sugary things, of course. Some " white " foods, as listed, can raise your blood sugar faster than sugar. http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm has the glycemic index and information on it. For most people one gram of carbohydrate can raise your blood sugar 3-5 points, depending on its glycemic factor. Excercise lowers blood sugar very well. I also suggest that you test your blood sugar 8 times per day - upon rising, before meals, 1-2 hours after meals, before bed and before and after exercise. Keep a journal and write everything down - what you eat, blood sugar tests, exercise, meds, etc. This will tell you a lot of information about your body and how it reacts to foods you eat. If you're eating to gain weight, eat fatty foods like nuts, nut butters, meat, cheese, mayo, eggs, tuna - just cut down on the carbs. You can roll ham up in a slice of swiss cheese, for instance. Fatty foods will leave you feeling more satisfied too. You feel hungry because you're eating carbs that spike your blood sugar, then it crashes, making you feel hungry again. I hope you get a handle on your numbers soon. Barb > And at 7 days im still at 11-15 bg most of the day, how much longer > should this take to go down, alothough i am feeling a lot better now, > I was boucning of the walls befor with unbalance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Get and read " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . I read elsewhere on this list that many doctors won't recommend low carb to their patients. It was surprising to me, then, when I went to see an endocrinologist, and he suggested I read two books... one of them was on the glycemic index, and the other was Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Get and read " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . I read elsewhere on this list that many doctors won't recommend low carb to their patients. It was surprising to me, then, when I went to see an endocrinologist, and he suggested I read two books... one of them was on the glycemic index, and the other was Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Get and read " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution " . I read elsewhere on this list that many doctors won't recommend low carb to their patients. It was surprising to me, then, when I went to see an endocrinologist, and he suggested I read two books... one of them was on the glycemic index, and the other was Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Sandy wrote: > I read elsewhere on this list that many doctors won't recommend low > carb to their patients. It was surprising to me, then, when I went to > see an endocrinologist, and he suggested I read two books... one of > them was on the > glycemic index, and the other was Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. > > Hi Sandy. Welcome to the group! It seems as though some doctors are beginning to come around to the idea that Moderate and Low Carb eating plans are not suicidal after all! You seem to have been fortunate enough to find one right away. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Sandy wrote: > I read elsewhere on this list that many doctors won't recommend low > carb to their patients. It was surprising to me, then, when I went to > see an endocrinologist, and he suggested I read two books... one of > them was on the > glycemic index, and the other was Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. > > Hi Sandy. Welcome to the group! It seems as though some doctors are beginning to come around to the idea that Moderate and Low Carb eating plans are not suicidal after all! You seem to have been fortunate enough to find one right away. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Sandy wrote: > I read elsewhere on this list that many doctors won't recommend low > carb to their patients. It was surprising to me, then, when I went to > see an endocrinologist, and he suggested I read two books... one of > them was on the > glycemic index, and the other was Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. > > Hi Sandy. Welcome to the group! It seems as though some doctors are beginning to come around to the idea that Moderate and Low Carb eating plans are not suicidal after all! You seem to have been fortunate enough to find one right away. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Welcome to the group! Thanks, Rick :-) It seems as though some doctors are beginning to come around to the idea that Moderate and Low Carb eating plans are not suicidal after all! You seem to have been fortunate enough to find one right away. Yes, I think you're right, as the nurse practitioner, whom I had been seeing until my husband convinced me to see the endocrinologist, was not too bad when I asked her what she thought about low carb. She said, " worth a try.... " Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Welcome to the group! Thanks, Rick :-) It seems as though some doctors are beginning to come around to the idea that Moderate and Low Carb eating plans are not suicidal after all! You seem to have been fortunate enough to find one right away. Yes, I think you're right, as the nurse practitioner, whom I had been seeing until my husband convinced me to see the endocrinologist, was not too bad when I asked her what she thought about low carb. She said, " worth a try.... " Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Welcome to the group! Thanks, Rick :-) It seems as though some doctors are beginning to come around to the idea that Moderate and Low Carb eating plans are not suicidal after all! You seem to have been fortunate enough to find one right away. Yes, I think you're right, as the nurse practitioner, whom I had been seeing until my husband convinced me to see the endocrinologist, was not too bad when I asked her what she thought about low carb. She said, " worth a try.... " Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 This is also one of the effects of the ADA not recommending Atkins and Bernstein. I think the doctors are afraid to recommend any vitamin or anything else that the ADA or AMA doesn't support. I think my doctor is a rebel. He is always interested in any new concepts I bring him. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 This is also one of the effects of the ADA not recommending Atkins and Bernstein. I think the doctors are afraid to recommend any vitamin or anything else that the ADA or AMA doesn't support. I think my doctor is a rebel. He is always interested in any new concepts I bring him. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 This is also one of the effects of the ADA not recommending Atkins and Bernstein. I think the doctors are afraid to recommend any vitamin or anything else that the ADA or AMA doesn't support. I think my doctor is a rebel. He is always interested in any new concepts I bring him. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 > > I read elsewhere on this list that many doctors won't recommend low > > carb to their patients. It was surprising to me, then, when I went to > > see an endocrinologist, and he suggested I read two books... one of > > them was on the > > glycemic index, and the other was Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. ***I believe you are very fortunate. My doc recommends low carb, thank heavens. He really appreciates my good control, but runs into so many who don't or won't " get it " , aren't compliant, have numbers in teh 200-300's constantly, eat what they want, etc. He gets so frustrated. However, the one diabetes group meeting, given by a type I CDE, had samples of sugar free cookes and candy on the table! Good heavens!! Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 > > I read elsewhere on this list that many doctors won't recommend low > > carb to their patients. It was surprising to me, then, when I went to > > see an endocrinologist, and he suggested I read two books... one of > > them was on the > > glycemic index, and the other was Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. ***I believe you are very fortunate. My doc recommends low carb, thank heavens. He really appreciates my good control, but runs into so many who don't or won't " get it " , aren't compliant, have numbers in teh 200-300's constantly, eat what they want, etc. He gets so frustrated. However, the one diabetes group meeting, given by a type I CDE, had samples of sugar free cookes and candy on the table! Good heavens!! Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 My doc tells me I am his diabetic poster child and just says that whatever I am doing, keep it up cause it is obviously working. Kim >***I believe you are very fortunate. My doc recommends low carb, thank >heavens. He really appreciates my good control, but runs into so many who >don't or won't " get it " , aren't compliant, have numbers in teh 200-300's >constantly, eat what they want, etc. He gets so frustrated. > >However, the one diabetes group meeting, given by a type I CDE, had samples >of sugar free cookes and candy on the table! Good heavens!! > >Barb > > >**All email sent through this mail list is Copyrighted by the original >author. Permission must be obtained from the original author for the >re-use, of any text (in whole or in part). > >Shared Files: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/files >Bookmarks: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int/links >Home Page at Yahoo Groups: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes_int > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 What kind of insulin regimen do you follow? What was your most recent A1C? Do you have any complications? And what kind of stuff do you quilt? Vicki I am on an insulin pump and count carbs. I use humalog in my pump. Yes, I have complications. I have had laser surgery for diabetic retinopathy. I have both peripheral and autonomic neuropathy. I have had 2 heart atttacks and had heart bypass surgery 3 years ago. The longer you have diabetes, the more complications you seem to have. I was very lucky and didn't start getting the complications until I had diabetes for about 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 What kind of insulin regimen do you follow? What was your most recent A1C? Do you have any complications? And what kind of stuff do you quilt? Vicki I am on an insulin pump and count carbs. I use humalog in my pump. Yes, I have complications. I have had laser surgery for diabetic retinopathy. I have both peripheral and autonomic neuropathy. I have had 2 heart atttacks and had heart bypass surgery 3 years ago. The longer you have diabetes, the more complications you seem to have. I was very lucky and didn't start getting the complications until I had diabetes for about 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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