Baby

May 1, 2004

I'm not sure....the ones I have heard about have started before age

five, but it's never to late to get improvements, no matter when you

start.

On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 04:21 PM, AJ wrote:

> So can this be done on older kids as well. Around 10? My in-laws best

> friends are raising their Downs grandson.

>

> Abby

>

> Re: Baby

>

> Abby,

>

> Your father is correct, except that treatment need not start at birth,

> although that is certainly preferable. My nephew started treatment

> when he was 3, and now he is a " typical " 7-year-old with no signs of

> Down's Syndrome. It's pretty amazing what can be done!

>

> > My father claims that a child with Downs can be recovered if treated

> at

> > birth with certain supplements.... If you are worried about it,

> > please do

> > some research on what supplements.

> >

>

May 2, 2004

Thank You very much for that. I've come to look forward to the info. this

group provides. It makes me feel better that your child is accepted, I've

watched ph be rejected so many times, it's a physical ache when it

happens. The methylation issue is intriguing, and something I found really

interesting in my research into ph's issues. Thank you for giving my

look into this some direction. Re: Baby

>

> Don't want to alarm you, but I have a son with autism and a son with

downs.

> I have always felt that my youngest , (with DS) was actually my

reward

> or compensation for having a child with ASD (Ben)! They are so different!

I

> can remember all the times Ben has given me a spontaneous hug because

> they are so rare. on the other hand is always giving hugs! He is

such a

> people person, so outgoing, friendly and affectionate. He loves everyone

and

> everyone loves him! Never had any grief from the school because of him,

> they are always happy to accomodate his needs and include him in

> everything. Ben - well that's another story. Could go on forever about

the

> fights I've had to have on his behalf. IF you do have a baby with DS, and

> remember it's only an IF - it's not as bad as you are probably imagining!

>

> I always felt that this was just a " fluke " and there was no connection but

recent

> research has me thinking otherwise now. Do you follow the DAN research

> and protocols at all? Dr. Jill was doing a study on kids with DS

and

> found a flaw in the MTHFR gene that effects methylation (don't ask me to

> explain it ! too confusing!). Anyway, she also found that kids with

autism (or

> many of them at least) have this same flaw (and so do their mothers) and

that

> is the basis for the latest DAN treatment protocol. I think its methyl

B12, folic

> acid, TMG and something else. So there may be a connection after all.

The

> einstein syndrome web site actually has a good explanation on the

> methylation system and what is wrong. You could check this out. It

sounds

> like providing the proper supps as soon as possible with DS can make a

> world of difference for them.

>

> Just some info, just in case. Your baby could well be completely healthy

and

> fine. I have absolutely no idea about this, but I wonder if taking the

same

> supps during pregnancy (james protocol) would help at all? Something I'd

> check with a " qualified " doctor about, certainly don't go on my

speculation!

>

> Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

> Laurie

>

> > Hello Everyone. I posted a bit ago that we are " expecting " . Very

exciting.

> Cleaned up my body, our environment, our habits, etc. Feeling a little

tired,

> but that's about it. Soo. I go in for a quantitative blood test, I was

worrying

> about an ectopic pregnancy with my history. The follow up quant. test

> indicated that no, my hormone level hCG did not double as supposed to, but

> quadrupled. Holy cow, twins? Not quite. A same day ultrasound shows just

> one at about 5 weeks and a few days. So, the initial suspicion, that I was

> actually two months along and not one, was wrong. And, we can't see

> multiples. I go in for another ultrasound tomorrow. I'm scared. High hCG

levels

> can also mean Spina Bifida ( my Mom has this and it runs strong in her

family,

> showing up every other generation) or possibly Downs Syndrome. What is

> going on? Anyone else experience this? I'm keeping my enzyme, probiotic

> routine ( have yet to decide on prenatal supplements, as I've learned more

> than I realized with regards to product integrity). You do all you can,

and

> prepare for another Autistic child if that happens to be the case, but

where the

> heck do you go for Downs or Spina Bifida? I would never knowingly,

> intentionally cause harm to a child, but I feel that's exactly what my

husband

> and I did, by getting pregnant again. What have we set this child up for?

Do I

> recover a child from Autism only to go on a crusade to help a child with

> Downs? I was horrified by the idea of twins, yet, that seems to pale to my

> worry about this hCG thing indicating a possible problem " already " with

our

> newest addition. As if we don't have enough to worry about. I've found

that

> with my faithful consumption of enzymes, and not my prior spotty catch as

> catch can consumption has alleviated a few aches I was feeling in my legs.

> Could be coincidence, but knowing what enzymes can do, I'm inclined to

> attribute the benefit to enzymes, also, my eyes are clear again, no

yellowness

> at all, almost bright white. Can that be attributed to enzymes?

> >

May 2, 2004

Thank you. Yup, too much intervention and speculation. There have been some

really good tips from this group and for that I am grateful. Nope, no more

ultrasounds. At least not until 20 weeks. I've decided that'll be the last

one. They'll be able to see if the spinal cord is sealed up just right or

not, and if not they can do surgery while the baby is still in my uterus.

Blood work ups I'll allow, only to be sure I'm in the healthy state I need

to be in to deliver.

Re: Baby

> Hi ,

> I am not a doctor but I have to tell you that those early tampon type of

> ultrasounds can cause a huge problem in a developing fetus.......if there

is

> nothing wrong there can be.The fact that they put the wand up the vagina

and

> the " waves " are literally closer to the fetus can cause lots of problems.I

> would wonder why the doctor isn't giving you folic acid to help protect

that

> baby.The prenatals are critical to the body having the nutrients to " form "

a

> healthy baby.I wouldn't allow amino either because that can cause a

> miscarriage. The prenatal I took was good.....it was Zenate by Solvay

> pharmaceuticals.I have no idea if it is still in use but could be worth

> checking out. I will pray for you and your baby.

> R

>

September 2, 2004

Being a new Grandma, I want th hear about baby products!

Take Care,

Marie

September 2, 2004

In a message dated 9/2/2004 10:41:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lvjensen@... writes:

Oh yeah!!! Baby bath stuff! Oh, I totally forgot about that. Any good

baby

soap/toiletry recipes that y'all have?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lis,

Nowdays, they don't use anything but water for newborns. Later on, you

might use a mild, castile-type of soap, preferrably unscented. However, I

admit

to using a tiny bit of lavender in what I made. :-) I wouldn't use m & p or

fo's, myself.

I'll have to dig out my Butt Balm and Belly Balm recipes.

Beth

September 2, 2004

>>Now a mild lavender, calendula soap for baby......<<

Oh yeah!!! Baby bath stuff! Oh, I totally forgot about that. Any good

baby

soap/toiletry recipes that y'all have? LOL! I might have some saved in

my e-mail folders, I don't know. If you have any advice about that, just

e-mail me privately ... I'm sure that everyone doesn't want to hear about

baby stuff on the list! hehe Are M & P soaps OK to use on little ones?

Maybe if they are just scented VERY lightly and with hardly any color? I

made three little guest-sized soaps for a friend's baby shower, and one

was unscented M & P, chamomile M & P, and lavender M & P [all fragrance

oils and VERY lightly scented, with hardly any color]. She loved them.

~nne

http://bathtubjunkie.star-shaped.org/

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September 2, 2004

> ... I'm sure that everyone doesn't want to hear about

> baby stuff on the list!

Oh sure we do!

I used glycerin soap on when she was a baby & she had eczema.

That didn't irritate her skin at all. I also used castile soap which

was very good on the skin.

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

September 2, 2004

I'm sure that everyone doesn't want to hear about

baby stuff on the list! ~~~~ AH! I would love to hear what stuff is good for

babies... okay for babies.. and absolutely NOT for babies!

Please post to the list!

Thanks,

RE: Baby