Guest guest Report post Posted November 7, 1999 , Why do you think the potential for a baby is not good? Is it because of your AIH or something else? Audra, AIH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 8, 1999 Hello I have got many options about having children, and only one sounded possible, but a little freighting due to it's context. Being on this drugs could cause damage to the baby, I could go off them, but that could cause serious damage to me!. If I new that I could prevent a child coming in to this world with a disabled I would. I'm not saying individuals who are disabled do not have value, just I work with people who have disabilities and do not think I'm a strong enough person to take that responsibility, being it is a life time job! I've been thinking of maybe adopting. And the first year of aih I develop to cysts, and I know I had 2 ovaries before aih, last ultra sound they said they were having trouble, or could not see the left one and that the cysts were just sitting there??? I have a appointment in Dec with a specialist due to these cysts have been there for almost 2 years, they believe they are not cancer. (but)! So all ask the doc about pregnancy and me!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 8, 1999 Dear : I had to have a hysterectomy when I was 26 years old, but when I was 30 I was blessed with a beautiful baby girl through adoption. She's now 8 years old and the joy of my life. There is always hope! Kathy (AIH) Seattle area Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 8, 1999 My husband was sterile and we are blessed with an adopted Korean daughter. J >From: KATBERCOO@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ]baby >Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:56:13 EST >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From sentto-165537-8327-shireen42=hotmail.comonelist Mon Nov 8 >13:56:22 1999 >Received: (qmail 14319 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 1999 21:56:26 -0000 >Received: (qmail 14309 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1999 21:56:25 -0000 >Received: from unknown (209.207.164.239) by pop4.onelist.com with QMQP; 8 >Nov 1999 21:56:25 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d10.mx) (205.188.157.42) by >mta1.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 1999 21:56:17 -0000 >Received: from KATBERCOO@... by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id >hSDIrM.9V_ (4239) for < onelist>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 >16:56:14 -0500 (EST) >Message-ID: <0.1894afb1.2558a0fd@...> >X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 >Mailing-List: list onelist; contact > -owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list onelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist> > >Dear : > >I had to have a hysterectomy when I was 26 years old, but when I was 30 I >was >blessed with a beautiful baby girl through adoption. She's now 8 years old >and the joy of my life. There is always hope! > >Kathy (AIH) >Seattle area > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Please support the American Liver Foundation! > >1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist >2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist >3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist >4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist ><< text3.html >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 8, 1999 , Can't you be on the prednisone only and that be safe for a baby? At least that's what my doctors have told me. AUDRA AIH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 9, 1999 Hello In my case neither of them said that I could do that, the opion when I was ready, I'd have to have normal test, got talk to them and they would all sit down and plan the best time etc.. to conceive and the meds, unforantally predisone stopped working for me. so I'm looking now at entocort and pregnancy. All know more in December. The next question would be do I have the energy???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 9, 1999 HI : When I was pregnant I was taking 10 mg of Prednisone only. I had an uneventful pregnancy and actually never felt better. My LFT's were normal. Unfortunately, I had complications on the day I went into labor and had a massive esophogeal bleed and nearly died. Sadly, my daughter died. Debbie AIH Michigan Re: [ ] Re: baby >From: " .Hutchinson " <brandy.hutchinson@...> > >Hello > >In my case neither of them said that I could do that, the opion when I >was ready, I'd have to have normal test, got talk to them and they would >all sit down and plan the best time etc.. to conceive and the meds, >unforantally predisone stopped working for me. so I'm looking now at >entocort and pregnancy. All know more in December. The next question >would be do I have the energy???? > > > >>Please support the American Liver Foundation! > >1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist >2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist >3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist >4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 7, 2001 OMG Michele.......................... What a shock and how awful for you as a family to be going through this. Poor little . :-( Sending my love, hugs and support to you all. SUE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 7, 2001 i missed what happen to the poor baby could anyopne inform me Amy ohio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 7, 2001 Thanks Sue. . . He just had his DPT shots 3 weeks ago. That wouldn't cause bleeding in your brain though, would it? Michele .. OMG Michele.......................... What a shock and how awful for you as a family to be going through this. Poor little . :-( Sending my love, hugs and support to you all. SUE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 7, 2001 That's also one the problems with shots - they cause a million different problems. And you never know which one your child will get because each child will react differently. Kathleen In a message dated 7/7/2001 6:14:56 PM Central Daylight Time, sandym@... writes: > Michele, That's just awful. All of us are praying for your family. > > Unfortunately, I think it is possible that the DPT shot could cause bleeding > in the brain, although off the top of my head I don't know it to be so. > It's known to cause encephalopathy - brain inflammation - so it seems that > it could. If and when I get a chance to research this for you, I will. > Unfortunately, as you are probably well aware, not many meaningful, > fairminded studies are being conducted. > > Please let us known how things go. Sandy > > ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE > IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS > REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE > CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION > WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE > MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. > > > > > RE: Baby > > > Thanks Sue. . . He just had his DPT shots 3 weeks ago. That wouldn't cause > bleeding in your brain though, would it? > > Michele > > . > > > > OMG Michele.......................... > What a shock and how awful for you as a family to be going through this. > Poor little . :-( > Sending my love, hugs and support to you all. > > SUE > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 7, 2001 Michele, That's just awful. All of us are praying for your family. Unfortunately, I think it is possible that the DPT shot could cause bleeding in the brain, although off the top of my head I don't know it to be so. It's known to cause encephalopathy - brain inflammation - so it seems that it could. If and when I get a chance to research this for you, I will. Unfortunately, as you are probably well aware, not many meaningful, fairminded studies are being conducted. Please let us known how things go. Sandy ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. RE: Baby Thanks Sue. . . He just had his DPT shots 3 weeks ago. That wouldn't cause bleeding in your brain though, would it? Michele .. OMG Michele.......................... What a shock and how awful for you as a family to be going through this. Poor little . :-( Sending my love, hugs and support to you all. SUE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 7, 2001 Thank you, Sandy. . . I talked to my mom this afternoon and she said he is still in critical condition. They have no idea what is wrong. Michele Michele, That's just awful. All of us are praying for your family. Unfortunately, I think it is possible that the DPT shot could cause bleeding in the brain, although off the top of my head I don't know it to be so. It's known to cause encephalopathy - brain inflammation - so it seems that it could. If and when I get a chance to research this for you, I will. Unfortunately, as you are probably well aware, not many meaningful, fairminded studies are being conducted. Please let us known how things go. Sandy Thanks Sue. . . He just had his DPT shots 3 weeks ago. That wouldn't cause bleeding in your brain though, would it? Michele .. OMG Michele.......................... What a shock and how awful for you as a family to be going through this. Poor little . :-( Sending my love, hugs and support to you all. SUE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 7, 2001 Amy, he was rushed by helicopter to Loyola Medical Center last night because of bleeding in his brain. They have no idea what is wrong. He is 4 months old. It is my cousin's little boy. She had tried for 3 years to get pregnant, and then finally with in vitro got pregnant with twins. She also has a little girl. Michele i missed what happen to the poor baby could anyopne inform me Amy ohio .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 7, 2001 In a message dated 07-07-01 2:01:42 PM Central Daylight Time, jjcwelsh@... writes: << He just had his DPT shots 3 weeks ago. That wouldn't cause bleeding in your brain though, would it? >> Sure could! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 How would that happen? Michele << He just had his DPT shots 3 weeks ago. That wouldn't cause bleeding in your brain though, would it? >> Sure could! .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 It can cause the lining around the brain to swell, it can cause SIDS, so why would it not cause bleeding? Love and Blessings, Ellen The Misguided One meharv84@... I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. Learn more about my people at http://chicora-waccamaw.com/ RE: Baby > How would that happen? > > Michele > > > > << He just had his DPT shots 3 weeks ago. That wouldn't cause > bleeding in your brain though, would it? >> > Sure could! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 He also could have had a seizure from it and it not been detected. Seizures in baby's look very different from in adults. Israel's first one he just held a leg out straight for a few seconds and a nurse just happened to walk by. The brain is smaller than the skull cavity and will beat against the inside of the skull bones during a seizure and thereby cause bleeding. The brain will usually over heal itself from this and enlarge the ventricles (holes in the brain) thereby causing microcephaly or small brain. This usually results in some form of cerebral palsy. Love and Blessings, Ellen The Misguided One meharv84@... I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. Learn more about my people at http://chicora-waccamaw.com/ RE: Baby > How would that happen? > > Michele > > > > << He just had his DPT shots 3 weeks ago. That wouldn't cause > bleeding in your brain though, would it? >> > Sure could! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 Oh, I " m not doubting it at all, I just wondered how it would work, is all. . .. but he has cried and cried and cried ever since he was born; they had told her it was colic all along. I think he has had this problem since he was born. Michele It can cause the lining around the brain to swell, it can cause SIDS, so why would it not cause bleeding? Love and Blessings, Ellen .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 , This sounds like my Israel. Has he had any episodes of strange behavior such as staring for a few seconds to minutes? holding any one limb straight or limp? eyes rolling? Does he hold his thumb inside when he makes a fist? (this is a sign of brain damage) Did he need oxygen when born? Did she have any sort of trauma, emotional or physical during the pregnancy? Was he slow at meeting milestones at all? Any of these things can point to brain damage even being in a car in a car seat and the brakes being slammed on hard could cause this type of bleed. Let me know and we can take this off list if preferred. Love and Blessings, Ellen The Misguided One meharv84@... I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. Learn more about my people at http://chicora-waccamaw.com/ RE: Baby > Oh, I " m not doubting it at all, I just wondered how it would work, is all. .. > . but he has cried and cried and cried ever since he was born; they had > told her it was colic all along. I think he has had this problem since he > was born. > > Michele > > > > > It can cause the lining around the brain to swell, it can cause SIDS, so why > would it not cause bleeding? > > Love and Blessings, > Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 In a message dated 7/8/01 7:05:05 PM GTB Daylight Time, jjcwelsh@... writes: << Oh, I " m not doubting it at all, I just wondered how it would work, is all. . . but he has cried and cried and cried ever since he was born; they had told her it was colic all along. >> Could have been a birth injury that just got aggrivated over time,and the shot was the *last straw* so to speak. I missed the initial post.What happened- is in the hospital? sara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 Thank you much for explaining this to me, Ellen! Michele .. He also could have had a seizure from it and it not been detected. Seizures in baby's look very different from in adults. Israel's first one he just held a leg out straight for a few seconds and a nurse just happened to walk by. The brain is smaller than the skull cavity and will beat against the inside of the skull bones during a seizure and thereby cause bleeding. The brain will usually over heal itself from this and enlarge the ventricles (holes in the brain) thereby causing microcephaly or small brain. This usually results in some form of cerebral palsy. Love and Blessings, Ellen .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 The only symptoms he had were that he was throwing up, and was very lethargic. The doctors just thought he was dehydrated at first. I mean, who would even think he had been shaken?! How could someone do this?! It breaks my heart. I pray that he will not be brain-damaged from this. Michele , This sounds like my Israel. Has he had any episodes of strange behavior such as staring for a few seconds to minutes? holding any one limb straight or limp? eyes rolling? Does he hold his thumb inside when he makes a fist? (this is a sign of brain damage) Did he need oxygen when born? Did she have any sort of trauma, emotional or physical during the pregnancy? Was he slow at meeting milestones at all? Any of these things can point to brain damage even being in a car in a car seat and the brakes being slammed on hard could cause this type of bleed. Let me know and we can take this off list if preferred. Love and Blessings, Ellen .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 Did he have his hep shot at birth?? christina > Oh, I " m not doubting it at all, I just wondered how it would work, is all. . > . but he has cried and cried and cried ever since he was born; they had > told her it was colic all along. I think he has had this problem since he > was born. > > Michele > > > > > It can cause the lining around the brain to swell, it can cause SIDS, so why > would it not cause bleeding? > > Love and Blessings, > Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2001 I don't think so, just the DPT about 3 weeks ago Michele Did he have his hep shot at birth?? christina .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
