Re: The Naked Warrior: HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

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> > My gym has some bumper plates and a padded floor in the

> back room, so

> > I've been thinking of giving this a try. How many hours of coaching

> > does it typically take to get good enough to avoid hurting oneself?

>

> I honestly don't recall how long it took me. Three months? Not sure.

> Plus I was REALLY inflexible in my back and calves/ankles so

> I'm sure it took longer for me than most. I couldn't believe

> how tight I was and how much better I felt when I could

> actually do the exercises fully and correctly.

> But I was working out twice a week with my trainer for about

> 90 minutes.

> Of course it takes quite awhile to *master* the lifts

That sounds pretty expensive ($2000?). For someone who's not interested in

competing, do the full-squat lifts offer any significant benefits over the

power snatch and power clean/military press (assuming " supplementary "

squatting, of course)?

> You should really have a wooden platform if you want to do

> the lifts regularly but I would guess a padded floor is

> better than nothing.

Why is that?

> > Who but an olympic lifter would call the squat an

> assistance exercise?

>

> LOL! An assistance exercise relative to the classic lifts,

> meaning an exercise that helps train you for the classic

> lifts. Olympic lifters are fanatical about squatting. I love

> squatting. No workout is complete in my mind without some

> type of squat.

Right. I got that, but...still.

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:43:22 -0800

" Berg " <bberg@...> wrote:

> That sounds pretty expensive ($2000?). For someone who's not interested in

> competing, do the full-squat lifts offer any significant benefits over the

> power snatch and power clean/military press (assuming " supplementary "

> squatting, of course)?

I don't recall how much I spent but I know I was paying him for only two

hours a week even though it worked out to about three actual hours in

the gym.

At the time I wasn't planning on competing (although I would like to one

day) but it was the only way I knew how to learn the lifts. The closest

olympic gym was down in Auburn.

Clarence Bass seems to think that the power snatches and power cleans

are sufficient for most folks needs.

http://www.cbass.com/SPRING.HTM

I imagine he is probably right but when I did my assistance workouts

(which consists of lots of partial movements - power cleans, hang cleans,

overhead squat, power jerk, etc.) I just didn't get the same benefit as

I did from the pure lifts. Nevertheless, it is still quite a workout.

Either way, you still are going to need someone to teach you the basic

technique as you are only leaving out part of each movement. Clarence

mentions a video you can purchase demonstrating the techniques. Perhaps

that supplemented by one or two training sessions might be sufficient.

> > You should really have a wooden platform if you want to do

> > the lifts regularly but I would guess a padded floor is

> > better than nothing.

>

> Why is that?

The platform gives and provides spring. This is one of those things that

you just have to experience to notice the incredible difference. Same

goes for wearing weightlifting shoes versus regular gym shoes.

" I feel sorry for all those health food

people. Someday, they will be lying in a hospital bed,

dying of nothing. "

Redd Foxx

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>One problem that no one else seems to have mentioned in the tendency for

>swings and snatches (particularly the descent) to put undue stress on the

>tendons connecting the biceps to the elbows. Inflammation in this area seems

>to be a common problem for beginners. I had no problems with the 16 kg bell

>(doing up to 30 snatches per side), but when I moved up to the 24 kg bell,

>it got so bad that I basically had to give them up. You might be okay with

>the 44 lb bell, but if you notice any pain in this area, you should ice it

>immediately and cut back on the weight (adjustable dumbbells are the poor

>man's kettlebells) for a couple of weeks. Actually, six weeks of light

>swings doesn't sound so bad after all.

Well, the swinging (two-handed only so far) has been very easy, though it

definitely is a workout. I tried one clean just out of curiosity and I

felt it exactly there, so I figure I'll hold off on those for awhile. (My

form wasn't really any good, which probably contributed, but better safe

than sorry.) Still, it seems like I could at least add some simple presses

for variety, no?

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Hi ,

> Well, the swinging (two-handed only so far) has been very

> easy, though it

> definitely is a workout.

Are you sore yet? If you are, it might help you figure out if you've gotten

your form down. Soreness deep in your glutes and hamstrings is a good sign.

Abs too.

Ron

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Ron-

>Are you sore yet? If you are, it might help you figure out if you've gotten

>your form down. Soreness deep in your glutes and hamstrings is a good sign.

>Abs too.

Actually, today I have noticed a bit of soreness in my hamstrings today,

and though I did just dramatically increase the difficulty of my squats, I

didn't think that was enough to account for it, so maybe the kettlebell

swings are playing a part. Though I'm also doing some Pavel-style

hamstring stretching, which involves isometric contractions. So somewhere

in there I maybe overdid the hams a touch.

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Quoting <samack@...>:

> I have received my copy of the The Naked Warrior video and am

> attempting to train to do one arm pushups and squats. I am doing the

> squats from a chair for now. I can't even begin to do the one arm push

> up from the chair. I can kinda do one from my kitchen counter but I

> don't think my form is very good. I wonder if doing two arm pushups

> for awhile would be the way to go. Will that get me there? I can do

> two " two armed pushups " pretty sad....

The reason for doing one-armed pushups is that two-armed pushups are too

easy for most men. But if you can only do two, you might as well do those,

ideally with some leverage to make it even easier.

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Berg

bberg@...

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>The reason for doing one-armed pushups is that two-armed pushups are too

>easy for most men. But if you can only do two, you might as well do those,

>ideally with some leverage to make it even easier.

>

>--

> Berg

>

Sandy,

Once you can do standard pushups with good form, try doing decline

pushups to train you for one arm variety. These are where you have your

feet on a bench with hands on the floor, so that more of your weight

falls on the arms.

Deanna