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>>> It's so sad how having a disease like this changes every

relationship I had in my life. Friends and family I thought would be my

strongest support weren't- and people I barely know are my biggest support.

I have said it so many times before. But, again, thank you all.

<<<

there is definately a lesson to be learned here. this is the way it is for

all of us.

strange.

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Re: [Lyme-aid] Antibiotics

> In a message dated 1/5/00 8:49:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> kenchand@... writes:

>

> << Antibiotics that must be delivered IV tend to be those chemicals (or

> chemicals with carrier agents) that cannot be delivered therapeudically

any

> other way. >>

> sorry this statement really is not true....Penicillin can be

> administered...intravenously...or intra-muscularly.....or orally....

> often the condition of the patient has a hand in determining a method of

> administration.....

The important word in my comment above is " therapeudically. "

If the point is to get the antibiotic across the blood-brain barrier, or

into the spaces where the spirochete hangs out, and oral or intra-muscular

don't do the trick, in some cases it must be done by IV.

The point of the original message, though was to question the wisdom of

snorting the ground-up powder of antibiotic medication formulated (and

tested) to be safe for oral ingestion only.

Ken

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Hi Jules,

So glad you found your way to our list, I have to agree this list may be

all you need as far as support.

I used to belong to a support group in my town, but it got too difficult for

me to attend the meetings. This list, which I kind of fell into, was a

godsend. I have come to know and love many of the list members and we all

feel like family. Only someone going through this disease can truly

understand what it feels like every day.

I wanted to mention that I have heard of many cases of LD flaring after a

pregnancy, I would not be surprised if that is what has happened to you. I

am just so happy you found such a great doctor to help you through this. In

one of your other letters you mentioned your husband is a major supporter

for you, that is half the battle....keep him apprised of all that you learn

about this disease, but when you see his eyes start to cloud over, and his

attention strays, jump back on this list and write to us. Listening to

gripes and offering support is what we are all about here.

I feel bad that you have so much pain, did you ask the doctor for

something? I know when I was first dx'd with LD, I suffered needlessly for

well over a year, I never thought to ask for pain meds, and when I saw the

relief they brought me, and how they helped me function again, I was kicking

myself for not asking sooner. I started out with Darvocets, and two years

later have graduated to Vicoprofen, it is true that they begin to stop

working and you build up a tolerance to them, but why suffer needlessly?

Hugs,

Marta

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From: <PokeCheck8@...>

> << please become an active part of our

> group.....ur experiance has much to offer us.....as ours does u....

> lastly.... >>

>

> Reading your experience (and others) makes me so sad. Are you having

> treatments currently?

>

> I am very glad I found this group- referred to me by Marta. The closest

IRL

> support group is about a 2-hour drive in MA, and I thought about starting

my

> own up here North of Boston... but would that make sense? I myself rarely

go

> out, but I just need- something- you know? Perhaps this list is exactly

what

> I was looking for. Hopefully, Boston will have it's own rally & can

attend.

>

> <<.not all cases of lyme get a severe as others.....we are all

> differant .....when u do feel normal ....savor it.....as some times it is

> fleeting and other times it is not....>>

>

> Before I got pregnant, I did have " normal " days. And on the worst day,

the

> pain wasn't nearly as bad as it is now, every single day. I hope I'll

soon

> have some " normal " days again, i've really hit about as low as i think I

> could bear.

>

> <<do u have a relative or friend who could help u with ur baby?.....use

> them!!!! stress only makes worse.......welcome again>>

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In a message dated 01/08/2000 5:13:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mlmccoy@... writes:

<<I wanted to mention that I have heard of many cases of LD flaring after a

pregnancy, I would not be surprised if that is what has happened to you>>

That would make sense. I could tell you the exact days it all came crashing

down for each symptom- wierd!

<< keep him apprised of all that you learn

about this disease, but when you see his eyes start to cloud over, and his

attention strays, jump back on this list and write to us. Listening to

gripes and offering support is what we are all about here. >>

Ha ha- I'll watch out for the " Lyme Clouding. "

<< I feel bad that you have so much pain, did you ask the doctor for

something? I know when I was first dx'd with LD, I suffered needlessly for

well over a year, I never thought to ask for pain meds, and when I saw the

relief they brought me, and how they helped me function again, I was kicking

myself for not asking sooner. >>

I'm going to see how it goes for now. I've always been a chicken about

taking meds, even after I had my C-Section, I refused pain killers (I was

nursing). I think i'll stick with the OTC Aleve for now- it has helped me.

It's good to know I could get something better if the pain got worse.

I am actually feeling a bit better today. I never thought I'd say it, but I

am. And- ok, I'm going to jinx myself- I haven't had a heart palp since I

started the meds!

-Jules

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jules....

at the current time i am still on a sabatical from abx....i was on them for

so long that myself and my llmd figured my body needed a break.....they were

starting to do more harm then good......plus i felt they were not helping

well it turns out they were a little as i have found since not being on

them.....plus the timing was right as i was fired from my job(of 18 years)

due to lyme and filing a workmans comp suit against them as i got bit on the

job......plus we had no $$$ coming in while i waited for ssd( it takes a

while rite marta....lol)....and i had no health insurance anymore.....i now

get ssd....medicare...and my wife started a job with great benefits.....plus

i use the veterans hospital as i am a vet.....

i am happy that ur spouse is helpful most are....we tend to start our own

problems with them as we feel we are not pulling our weight.....yes gang me

and the wife had a long heart to heart last nite.......she understands my

frustration but does not know what to do to help.....neither do i then

express it when i have it......something i have not been

doing....arghhhhhhh.......jules if u have trusted neighbor or someone

.....maybe ur church who could help u with ur child avail urself of it......u

do need large amounts of rest with this disease......sometimes ur body just

makes u do it.....such as mine has lately.....weather changes and atmospheric

changes know the stuffing out of me........be good and yes i think you have

found the perfect place for u......hope to see u at a rally soon......Reid

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julie.....i am sorry about ur marraige....believe me ....and as for working i

don't know how u do it.....other than u must .....i just got to a point that

i could not anymore and believe me that hurts when u have always put alot of

urself into ur carrer and business......personally i finally had to just put

myself in gods hands......he took care of our needs......not always our

wants.....and we have survived ....easy ...NO.....BUT I HAD NO OTHER

CHOICE......as has been said this disease changes our lives totaly...the only

ones that truly understand are others with lyme.....when i have a few good

days i start looking in the want ads.....my wife laughs .....she is rite

reality soon sets in.....what other disease keeps u from making any

plans.....or having difficulty following thru on them ....? we hopefully

will be going to maine in april.....hope i feel good if not i will get my

money out of the hotel bed and tv while the family sight seea....but i know i

can drag my self up for a few3 lobster dinners....of that i am

sure...yum.......

Reid

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In a message dated 00-01-06 21:35:12 EST, you write:

<< The only people I know of who have gotten better are people my mom knows &

told me about. One of them has been symptom-free for a couple years. That

gives me hope. Has anyone on this list regained the majority of their

health

yet?

-Jules

>>

Hi Jules,

Yes - my daughter has. Seems the babesia is still hanging on, though.

Will be visiting LLMD very soon & he will probably put her on the babesia

meds.

Once again, I will ask - does anyone know if babesia die-off causes herxes or

something similar???

Her heart symptoms (tachacardia) are all but gone - still occasional sharp

pain in the area...

Must say, though, we're not doing it with abxs alone - we are using RIFE

machine (electrical frequency generator - resonance principle). This makes a

HUGE difference!

Blessings & velcros,

Chris

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Hello all im new to this lyme-aid...i went misdagnosed for about 2yrs and

diagnosed with chronic lyme..(western blot positive)...Mr doc is

S.Donta from BU med in boston..right now im on disability from work. After

my first 3 month dose of tetracycline 500mgs TID... i did gain great

results..but during the summer i had to go off due to the sun. and i went on

Biaxin and a drug he used to bring out the lyme. which didnt work so i

regressed..i went back on the sumycin and right off the bat went thru the

herx. its been about 2 months and now ive kinda regressed again...but

stable....is there any thoughts about me being on the sumycin soo long that

is not working anymore...????

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In a message dated 01/18/2000 4:43:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Tzzyalyl@... writes:

<< Hello all im new to this lyme-aid...i went misdagnosed for about 2yrs and

diagnosed with chronic lyme..(western blot positive)...Mr doc is

[-------] from BU med in boston..right now im on disability from work.

After

my first 3 month dose of tetracycline 500mgs TID... i did gain great

results..but during the summer i had to go off due to the sun. and i went on

Biaxin and a drug he used to bring out the lyme. which didnt work so i

regressed..i went back on the sumycin and right off the bat went thru the

herx. its been about 2 months and now ive kinda regressed again...but

stable....is there any thoughts about me being on the sumycin soo long that

is not working anymore...???? >>

Hi, and Welcome!

Wow, your story sounds almost exactly like mine. We share docs and the same

meds, too :)

I'm new here, too. I have been on the Sumycin 500mg 3X/day for 2 weeks. I

asked him the same question when he told me I'd probably be on cycles of it

for 2 years. He referred me to a paper he wrote: Tetracycline Therapy for

Chronic Lyme Disease, Clinical

http://x-l.net/Lyme/donta97.htm

I'm interested in hearing anyone else's experience from using Sumycin for

long periods, too. What does " TID " mean?

Take Care,

Jules

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Jayne -

And anybody else who thinks antibiotics are silver bullets--

PLEASE don't take antibiotics unless you absolutely need to and your

doctor has given you a script. Everytime you take an antibiotic, you run

the very real risk of encouraging the growth of drug resistant bacteria.

When you take an antibiotic, every susceptible bacteria is killed. Fine.

But you are covered with and filled with " good " bacteria that help protect

your skin, your gut, etc. These will be gone, too. What's left are the

ones that are immune to that particular drug which can now set up

housekeeping in your body along with all their progeny causing raging

infections that no drug can kill. This is worst case, I realize, but the

fewer antibiotics you take, the better. Ask your doctor.

Viral infections can last for weeks, be very painful, cause fevers, make

you miserable and very very tired. But no amount of antibiotics will kill

them. And if you are taking immune-suppressing DMARDs, they can be even

worse.

The best thing you can do if you have a viral infection is take very good

care of yourself. Eat right. Get your fruits and veggies and vitamins and

enough protein. Get some fresh air and plenty of rest. Rest your mind.

Take a page from Gillian's book and get some laughs, either a funny movie,

good book or wacky friends. Subscribe to a joke mailing list - whatever -

but take care of yourself physically, mentally and spiritually and wait it

out. Try to focus on something outside of your pain and discomfort. Do

your taxes, cook something, groom the cat - or come by and groom mine as he

really needs it!

Chris

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My fear while on Enbrel is that an infection can go wild. For me I'm

going to take the antibiotic as insurance. What if it is an infection

in the glands? A blocked salivary gland can get infected and this can

happen w/ Sjogren's. I watched my grandmothers cheeks swell up bigger

than her face when that happened to her.

Coming from a large family and with strep being passed around.. I

know that a " carrier " can have no symptoms but the siblings that get

the symptoms keep getting strep until the passive carrier is treated.

We ended up having to haul everyone in anytime one got strep. The

docs sent in multiple tests and got pos and neg results from the same

people meaning the success rate of the lab was questionable. I

remember having to change into my softball uniform, way back in high

school going down the highway to the hospital to be tested for strep

when I felt fine but my sister made me go in 'cause mom was tired of

sore thorats. Having a brother that ended up having heart valve

surgery and thinking that maybe an infection when he was 2 caused the

problem reinforced mom's decision.

Pat B

> my dr is so anti-antibiotics.................he made me swear

Pat..that

> I would stop the antibiotic if the strep was negative....so I did,

out

> of fear he is watching !!!!!! Am I going nuts...so you think I

should

> sneak them back in ?? I know it bacterial...viral couldn't possibly

> last this long could it? Would a viral/bacterial infection show up

in a

> cbc and after three days of antibiotics?

> dying for an answer to what ails me,

> Jayne

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Hi Chris

Of course you are correct. None of us should have antibiotics floating

around our medicine cabinets. And if you do, my advise throw them away. Your

GP, Physician, prescribes these antibiotics to fight what he considers an

infection. He also prescribes a 'course' which you are supposed to take. If

you do not take the specified course, chances are you are opening yourself

up to serious infection. You then have the added problem, antibiotic

resistant bacteria!

For those of you who have satellite television, you might already know about

the 6 year old girl in England, who was dying waiting for a heart

transplant. Her parents had to go on television to 'plead' for a donor!

Thankfully one was found but the child is NOT out of the woods yet.

Her original problem, she succumbed to a bug that affected her major heart

muscle!

In my opinion, antibiotics should be taken sparingly!

Love and God Bless

Gillian

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Good luck to anyone taking antibiotics. I have been off doxycycline since

January and have been unable to clear up a yeast infection that I've had for

three months. The longer that you take antibiotics the less effective

they'll be in the future.

Diane

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Hi Diane..

Have you tried Acidopholis capsules for the yeast infection? You should have

taken about 5-6 capsules with every dose of antibiotic you ever take. It is a

live culture that puts back the " good " bacteria in your system that the

antibiotic killed off. Even though you are off the antibiotic now..you

should still take about 5 acidopholis capsules per day...it should help to

clear up the infection. FYI you don't have to get the expensive brand..it

shouldn't cost more than 5-6 dollars a bottle (it is o.k. to get the kind

that is combined with apple pectin or goats milk).

Good Luck!

Rivky :)

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What type of problem would require being on antibiotics for nine months?

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antibiotics

Hello, I'm sending this again because I'm not sure it worked the first time.

I'm sorry if it's a repeat. :)

Hello all. I have been dealing with chronic yeast infections for a few

months

and am finally feeling like I might be winning, but now I find out that I'm

going to have to go on a 9 month corse of antibiotics for another health

problem. This is not at all optional. I don't think that the antibiotic it

very broad spectrum, but still. Can anyone help me think of ways to try to

stay healthy during the next nine months? What do I do? Any sugestions would

be great. Thanks in advance.

~Johannah

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antibiotics

Hello all. I have been dealing with chronic yeast infections for a few

months

now I find out that I'm going to have to go on a 9 month corse of

antibiotics for another health problem. What do I do? Any sugestions would

be great. Thanks in advance.

~Johannah

I would recommend you look into d-LENOLATE, which is a very effective all

natural antibiotic extracted from olive leaves. It actually boosts the

immune system as it kills the pathological microorganisms. It is something

that you take like vitamin C as it gets used up as you take it and you can't

take too much or over dose. There is a wealth of information on the internet

about Olive Leaf Extract, and its effectiveness against viruses, bacteria,

yeast, fungi and parasitic protozoan. The manufacturer of d-LENOLATE

patented a process in 1995, a stereo isomer extraction that concentrates the

d-elenolic acid, the effective ingredient, making it the most therapeutic

all natural antibiotic you can purchase without a prescription.

I am not a doctor but I have been taking d-LENOLATE for about a year now and

I wouldn't be without it. The positive things that it has done for my health

are too numerous to mention. If you would like to know more about

d-LENOLATE, I get mine on the internet at www.otrecure.com

I hope you find this helpful.

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repeated sinus infections, which in reality you don't have a sinus infection

but Candida----- but it looks like a sinus infection to the DR.!!!! believe

me, this is what happened with me year after year from Sept----April. one

antibiotic after another. that's got me in this mess!!!!!!!!!Mogdrmom

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I have to take the course of antibiotics that has been perscribed for me

because I'm positive for tuberculosis and if I don't take it I becaome a

public health hazard. If I wont' take it then I think that the health

department can take steps to try to make me. I just want to know how to

stay healthy while I'm on these medicines.

~Johannah

>I would recommend you look into d-LENOLATE, which is a very effective all

>natural antibiotic extracted from olive leaves. It actually boosts the

>immune system as it kills the pathological microorganisms. It is something

>that you take like vitamin C as it gets used up as you take it and you

can't

>take too much or over dose. There is a wealth of information on the

internet

>about Olive Leaf Extract, and its effectiveness against viruses, bacteria,

>yeast, fungi and parasitic protozoan. The manufacturer of d-LENOLATE

>patented a process in 1995, a stereo isomer extraction that concentrates

the

>d-elenolic acid, the effective ingredient, making it the most therapeutic

>all natural antibiotic you can purchase without a prescription.

>I am not a doctor but I have been taking d-LENOLATE for about a year now

and

>I wouldn't be without it. The positive things that it has done for my

health

>are too numerous to mention. If you would like to know more about

>d-LENOLATE, I get mine on the internet at www.otrecure.com

>I hope you find this helpful.

>

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Tuberculosis.

>What type of problem would require being on antibiotics for nine months?

>

>

>lindaj@...

>

> antibiotics

>

>

>Hello, I'm sending this again because I'm not sure it worked the first

time.

>I'm sorry if it's a repeat. :)

>

>Hello all. I have been dealing with chronic yeast infections for a few

>months

>and am finally feeling like I might be winning, but now I find out that I'm

>going to have to go on a 9 month corse of antibiotics for another health

>problem. This is not at all optional. I don't think that the antibiotic it

>very broad spectrum, but still. Can anyone help me think of ways to try to

>stay healthy during the next nine months? What do I do? Any sugestions

would

>be great. Thanks in advance.

>

>~Johannah

>

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I think you have a very valid reason to take antibiotics. I asked because

there are plenty of invalid reasons for being put on antibiotics, such as

treatment for acne, that have alternative treatments that would broaden the

choice of treatment, but your problem is definitely different.

I'm not an expert, but here's my opinion: the olive leaf extract would help

to suppress the candida while you are on the antibiotic, since it is

anti-fungal. And who knows, it might help against the tuberculosis, making

the antibiotic more effective. You might also consider having your doctor

prescribe an anti-fungal medication concurrently with the antibiotic, such

as Nystatin, throughout the time that you are on the antibiotic, to prevent

candida from getting a foothold. And be on an anti-candida diet throughout

the period, so that if any yeast does get a foothold, it doesn't have

anything to feed on. This means no sugar, no fruit or fruit juice, etc.

When the course of antibiotic treatment is over, remain on the candida diet,

and treat yourself as though you had candida for a while, just to be on the

safe side. I think that most problems with antibiotics occur because people

aren't aware that there is a potential problem with candida, and so they end

up feeding the candida, and not replacing the good bacteria that are lost

from the antibiotic, leaving plenty of room for the candida to take over.

Replacing the good bacteria that are lost once the course of antibiotics is

finished is essential. It might not hurt to take acidophilus throughout the

course of treatment, even. You might also invest in one of the " zappers "

that Hulda e recommends in her book " The Cure for all Diseases, " and

use it daily. Maybe this is overkill, or maybe not. Just my opinion.

lindaj@...

Re: antibiotics

> I have to take the course of antibiotics that has been perscribed for me

> because I'm positive for tuberculosis and if I don't take it I becaome a

> public health hazard. If I wont' take it then I think that the health

> department can take steps to try to make me. I just want to know how to

> stay healthy while I'm on these medicines.

>

> ~Johannah

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Thank you very much for your reply, I'll talk to my doctor about maybe

gettting a perscription antifungle while I'm on the antibiotics. Olive leaf

extract sounds interesting, is it anything like grapefruit seed extract?

What is zapper? Thanks

~Johannah

>I think you have a very valid reason to take antibiotics. I asked because

>there are plenty of invalid reasons for being put on antibiotics, such as

>treatment for acne, that have alternative treatments that would broaden the

>choice of treatment, but your problem is definitely different.

>

>I'm not an expert, but here's my opinion: the olive leaf extract would help

>to suppress the candida while you are on the antibiotic, since it is

>anti-fungal. And who knows, it might help against the tuberculosis, making

>the antibiotic more effective. You might also consider having your doctor

>prescribe an anti-fungal medication concurrently with the antibiotic, such

>as Nystatin, throughout the time that you are on the antibiotic, to prevent

>candida from getting a foothold. And be on an anti-candida diet throughout

>the period, so that if any yeast does get a foothold, it doesn't have

>anything to feed on. This means no sugar, no fruit or fruit juice, etc.

>When the course of antibiotic treatment is over, remain on the candida

diet,

>and treat yourself as though you had candida for a while, just to be on the

>safe side. I think that most problems with antibiotics occur because people

>aren't aware that there is a potential problem with candida, and so they

end

>up feeding the candida, and not replacing the good bacteria that are lost

>from the antibiotic, leaving plenty of room for the candida to take over.

>Replacing the good bacteria that are lost once the course of antibiotics is

>finished is essential. It might not hurt to take acidophilus throughout the

>course of treatment, even. You might also invest in one of the " zappers "

>that Hulda e recommends in her book " The Cure for all Diseases, " and

>use it daily. Maybe this is overkill, or maybe not. Just my opinion.

>

>

>lindaj@...

>

> Re: antibiotics

>

>

>> I have to take the course of antibiotics that has been perscribed for me

>> because I'm positive for tuberculosis and if I don't take it I becaome a

>> public health hazard. If I wont' take it then I think that the health

>> department can take steps to try to make me. I just want to know how to

>> stay healthy while I'm on these medicines.

>>

>> ~Johannah

>

>

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Thank you very much for your reply, I'll talk to my doctor about maybe

gettting a perscription antifungle while I'm on the antibiotics. Olive leaf

extract sounds interesting, is it anything like grapefruit seed extract?

What is zapper? Thanks

~Johannah

Olive leaf extract is anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-fungal. It is safe

to use, even at high doses. I think it even has some anti-parasitic

properties. I've seen it in capsule form, and as a liquid extract. I take

the capsules along with the rest of my anti-candida regime. I've taken both

grapefruit seed extract, and olive leaf extract, and they both seem to work

pretty much as good as one another in my case. Either one can be used as a

prophylactic for extended periods of time.

In the book " The Cure for All Diseases " there are instructions for building

an electronic device she calls a zapper that you use to pass a special type

of electrical current through your body that is capable of killing

parasites, bacteria and viruses without harming human cells. It is totally

painless, and harmless to people. There are some places in the body where

the current can't reach, such as the lining of the intestines, which are

somewhat insulated from the rest of the body. But it can reach most other

places. You can make your own by following the instructions in the book, or

there are also places that manufacture zappers using slightly different

constructions, some claiming that they work better, or have a longer battery

life, etc. My husband built one for me using the instructions from the book.

Unless you have a pace maker, they're perfectly safe for people to use.

I thought of one other recommendation that might help you. You might

consider using inulin. It's made from the roots of the Jerusalem artichoke,

and feeds good intestinal flora, without feeding candida. I think it is made

under the brand name InuFlora. There just happened to be an article about it

in the Volume 4 No. 4 issue of Healthy Living magazine that my natural foods

store always gives to me for free, titled " Enhance the Healing Response of

Antibiotics, Improve Your Gastrointestinal & Immune Health with Plant

Prebiotics. " The article lists a web site for more information at

www.freedompressonline.com

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Thank you very much for the information. I'll see if I can find " the cure

for all dieases " at the library. What else do you take for your anti-candida

regime? Thanks

~Johannah

>

>Olive leaf extract is anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-fungal. It is

safe

>to use, even at high doses. I think it even has some anti-parasitic

>properties. I've seen it in capsule form, and as a liquid extract. I take

>the capsules along with the rest of my anti-candida regime. I've taken both

>grapefruit seed extract, and olive leaf extract, and they both seem to work

>pretty much as good as one another in my case. Either one can be used as a

>prophylactic for extended periods of time.

>

>In the book " The Cure for All Diseases " there are instructions for building

>an electronic device she calls a zapper that you use to pass a special type

>of electrical current through your body that is capable of killing

>parasites, bacteria and viruses without harming human cells. It is totally

>painless, and harmless to people. There are some places in the body where

>the current can't reach, such as the lining of the intestines, which are

>somewhat insulated from the rest of the body. But it can reach most other

>places. You can make your own by following the instructions in the book, or

>there are also places that manufacture zappers using slightly different

>constructions, some claiming that they work better, or have a longer

battery

>life, etc. My husband built one for me using the instructions from the

book.

>Unless you have a pace maker, they're perfectly safe for people to use.

>

>I thought of one other recommendation that might help you. You might

>consider using inulin. It's made from the roots of the Jerusalem artichoke,

>and feeds good intestinal flora, without feeding candida. I think it is

made

>under the brand name InuFlora. There just happened to be an article about

it

>in the Volume 4 No. 4 issue of Healthy Living magazine that my natural

foods

>store always gives to me for free, titled " Enhance the Healing Response of

>Antibiotics, Improve Your Gastrointestinal & Immune Health with Plant

>Prebiotics. " The article lists a web site for more information at

>www.freedompressonline.com

>

>

>lindaj@...

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Thank you very much for the information. I'll see if I can find " the cure

for all dieases " at the library. What else do you take for your anti-candida

regime? Thanks

~Johannah

I've taken oil of oregano and caprylic acid in the past, but my naturopath

felt that I also had parasites besides the candida, so she put me on an

anti-parasite formula that also kills candida. It's a combination formula

that has berberine sulfate, grapefruit seed extract, gentian root,

goldenseal, sweet Annie, Quassia, black walnut green outer hull, and garlic

bulb. And as I said, I'm also taking olive leaf extract. I also take

probiotics, vitamins, fiber, and other supplements for other things.

Thinking about garlic bulb, you might consider taking garlic too. It's one

of those things that are easy to find, either in pill form or you can use

whole garlic from the grocery store, and can be taken for long periods of

time without much problems. The pills usually don't cause the bad breath

that whole garlic does.

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