AntIbiotics

October 14, 2007

Has anyone seen a regression with ery-ped. It almost is like a die-off, getting

visually stimmy and more tv talk. I was wondering if its a good sign for good

things to come after the intial phase. thks Kavita

Re: diet/medication

Hi ,

YES...definitely saw a down-slide with antifungal switch. My son had

been on Nizoral for " quite some time. " Every time Dr G mentioned

switching, I would also say it seems he does really well on Nizoral,

and he said it does have some extra neuro-immune benefits so we would

extend a little longer. We switched to Diflucan and it was almost

immediately recognized.. ..he had lower appetite and a general down-

slide in overall health and energy. And yes definitely dark

circles. We reported this to Dr G and he told us to try IMGG. He

had his 1st shot last Saturday. Seriously, starting Monday

afternoon, we have seen such a " pop " in him...more energy, more

motivation, more fluent language...we keep saying " has to be the

shot " He still has 2 more shots to go, one in 2 weeks, and then the

3rd 3 weeks after that one.

Another thought on allergies (sorry this is getting so long). We

realized earlier in the summer that allergies were a big problem with

our family this year. I realized I actually felt better about 5

minutes after I was out of my house. After alot of research and

consultations this summer we have learned 2 very imporatnt things:

1) our home Indoor Air Quality is terrible because we have the home

so locked up we never get fresh air in the house. We are adding

*filtered* ventilation to our home to make the indoor pollutants less

concentrated. And 2) our air conditioner coil is a mess, you can

smell it actually. The company rep has told us it is growing

bacteria, it needs to be replaced, and then we need to clean it 2-3

times per season going forward. I tell you this because in our case

I am starting to beleive our indoor issues (as well as the ones at

with air quality at school) are as big of a problem as pollens.

Whew, sorry I went off!

Hope this helps,

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February 9, 2008

Lynn

I take it all at once but take the probiotic on empty stomach it works the best. Sometimes you

just cant help it. But try. Take probiotic and then eat something and take the antibiotic. Yes I would

take probiotic everyday and up the dose with antibotic that's what Dr. Feng said to do today.

Because I was concern about taking antibiotic period.

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Do you think it would be a good idea to take my antibiotic and probiotic at the same time? Or the same days?Thanks, Lynn Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.

February 15, 2008

Lynn,

Have you tried Magnesium?

Rogene

February 15, 2008

Lynn,

Have you tried Magnesium?

Rogene

February 15, 2008

Rogene,

I did. Maybe it was not enough but I need to get things going soon.

Thanks,

Lynn

>

> Lynn,

>

> Have you tried Magnesium?

>

> Rogene

>

February 15, 2008

Rogene,

I did. Maybe it was not enough but I need to get things going soon.

Thanks,

Lynn

>

> Lynn,

>

> Have you tried Magnesium?

>

> Rogene

>

February 15, 2008

Dede,

I have to take a synthroid on an empty stomach first thing every

morning. Do you think I should take my pill, wait an hour and do the

salt water?

I have some old Citracel. I could take that tonight. Thanks so

much, I am so desperate right now.

Good idea on the Cipro. I will just pray I don't need it. Maybe

having it around will keep the bad bacteria away.

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I must have missed a post where you said you fell? When did you

fall? How?

I am so sorry!

I know you are down too I wish I could give you a huge hug!!

They post jobs at work in the Austin area quite a bit. I have

seriously been thinking of applying!! These cold winters here are

killing my joints. I would get to see you - that would be a huge

bonus.

Love you Dede!! I will put in some extra prayers for you. It seems

were are both in a crap spell, it sucks and I can't seem to get out -

it is like a snowball effect. I am losing weight like crazy, you'd

think I would gain a few with all this crap I am towing around.

I will be on board most of the weekend - so chat with you soon. I

have to head to the store and get some tucks (how embarrassing)!!

Thank goodness for self check-out!!

Lynn

>

> Sweetie, I recommend the salt water flush

> since your adrenals are compromised, this will

> help that too. You do this first thing in the morning

> nothing in your mouth at all, you mix

> sea salt into 1 quart of warm water, and drink it.

> I think I used a big teaspoon of it......I drank this

> within 15 minutes, and within an hour, I was dookin

> like crazy, and I only did it because I recommend it

> and wanted to see what would happen, cuz I go

> every day a couple times. Anyway, this works

> quickly.....I would take some metamucil or something

> tonight with 2 glasses of water, it will make your

> poo slick so it will bypass those roids quickly

> love you ~ Dede

> dont throw your cipro, keep it in case you end up

> needing it......

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February 15, 2008

Dede,

I have to take a synthroid on an empty stomach first thing every

morning. Do you think I should take my pill, wait an hour and do the

salt water?

I have some old Citracel. I could take that tonight. Thanks so

much, I am so desperate right now.

Good idea on the Cipro. I will just pray I don't need it. Maybe

having it around will keep the bad bacteria away.

____________________

I must have missed a post where you said you fell? When did you

fall? How?

I am so sorry!

I know you are down too I wish I could give you a huge hug!!

They post jobs at work in the Austin area quite a bit. I have

seriously been thinking of applying!! These cold winters here are

killing my joints. I would get to see you - that would be a huge

bonus.

Love you Dede!! I will put in some extra prayers for you. It seems

were are both in a crap spell, it sucks and I can't seem to get out -

it is like a snowball effect. I am losing weight like crazy, you'd

think I would gain a few with all this crap I am towing around.

I will be on board most of the weekend - so chat with you soon. I

have to head to the store and get some tucks (how embarrassing)!!

Thank goodness for self check-out!!

Lynn

>

> Sweetie, I recommend the salt water flush

> since your adrenals are compromised, this will

> help that too. You do this first thing in the morning

> nothing in your mouth at all, you mix

> sea salt into 1 quart of warm water, and drink it.

> I think I used a big teaspoon of it......I drank this

> within 15 minutes, and within an hour, I was dookin

> like crazy, and I only did it because I recommend it

> and wanted to see what would happen, cuz I go

> every day a couple times. Anyway, this works

> quickly.....I would take some metamucil or something

> tonight with 2 glasses of water, it will make your

> poo slick so it will bypass those roids quickly

> love you ~ Dede

> dont throw your cipro, keep it in case you end up

> needing it......

>

> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the

Grammy

> Awards. Go to AOL Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

>

February 15, 2008

Thanks a! Lord knows I don't need more of that on my face.

Hugs, Lynn

>

> > Well against his better judgement, my doctor agreed

> > to prescribe

> > Tetracycline. So, I guess I will toss the Cipro I

> > just bought in the

> > trash.

> >

> > Pray that this works for me.

> >

> > I am feeling ill since I haven't went #2 in 6 days.

> > Tried to go today

> > but all the hemrrhoids came back and are now

> > bleeding. I may have to

> > break down and try e-lax or another stool softner

> > until I can get my

> > digestive in-line. I have tried fiber, lots of

> > water, etc. But

> > nothing. I got to get this out of me.

> >

> > If you think another laxative would be better,

> > please let me know.

> >

> > Thanks, Lynn

> >

>

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February 15, 2008

Thanks a! Lord knows I don't need more of that on my face.

Hugs, Lynn

>

> > Well against his better judgement, my doctor agreed

> > to prescribe

> > Tetracycline. So, I guess I will toss the Cipro I

> > just bought in the

> > trash.

> >

> > Pray that this works for me.

> >

> > I am feeling ill since I haven't went #2 in 6 days.

> > Tried to go today

> > but all the hemrrhoids came back and are now

> > bleeding. I may have to

> > break down and try e-lax or another stool softner

> > until I can get my

> > digestive in-line. I have tried fiber, lots of

> > water, etc. But

> > nothing. I got to get this out of me.

> >

> > If you think another laxative would be better,

> > please let me know.

> >

> > Thanks, Lynn

> >

>

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February 17, 2008

>

> Hi, I haven't written for a while but have a dilemma. I have been

doing really well with the program but at the moment have a UTI I

can't seem to get rid of - I have tried bicarb soda in water, parsley

tea, nettle tea but every second day it comes back. I am getting

closer to

resorting to antibiotics as much as I don't want to - any ideas??

How

far will it set me back if I take them?

==>Sophie, all antibiotics are toxic/poison that will make your

candida grow more and they depressed the immune system. Natural

treatments are much more effective without doing damage to your

body. If you have had any UTI in the past your body will be

retracing it in order to clear out previous toxins/drugs and to

rebuild it like it should be.

Treatment has be given enough time to work. I recommend fresh

parsley tea per my UTI article:

" Parsley tea is a very good treatment for UTI, especially for candida

sufferers who cannot yet tolerate high amounts of garlic. Parsley tea

has been a used traditionally to treat urinary tract infection,

kidney stones and liver, bladder and prostrate problems. The Cherokee

Indians, who learned of its medicinal value from the settlers, drank

parsley tea for kidney and bladder pain, and dropsy (edema, or water

retention).

Culpepper's Complete Herbal & English Physician book states: " that

using the whole plant is best, including the root, and when it is

fresh gathered. A strong infusion cleanses the kidneys and the

urinary passages in a short time. It is likewise good in jaundice,

and other complaints arising from obstructions of the liver. It is

also helpful for gas, in both the stomach and the bowels. "

It is best to use fresh parsley, including the stems, to make a tea.

But if you can get the roots as well it will make the treatment even

more potent and helpful. Drink 4 cups per day for 7 days to cure

urinary tract infection. Your symptoms will greatly decrease after 3

days, but continue for 4 more days. "

Therefore use whole fresh parsley, including the stems, and drink at

least 4 cups per day for 7 days. My sister is a nurse, and she said

parsley tea did a better job than antibiotics, but she drank it the

full 7 days.

Bee

April 8, 2008

> My son got an ear infection about 4 days ago (he was at the point of

screaming in pain). I put in on antibiotics for the second time in

his life (I was terrified because I have read in other posts to avoid

this at all costs). His eye contact has been amazing and he is doing

really well. He actually requested medicine. Is this a clue into

something>? What can I do to keep this great effect going?

Try giving OLE or other natural anti-bacterial.

Dana

June 2, 2008

Hi, Deb!

I used Sulfasalazine for psoriatic arthritis over the course of about 10

years between pregnancies. It usually took at least two months for it to

start working, but it did a decent job of keeping my arthritis in check

until I was expecting again.

Now my youngest child is 4, and I was diagnosed with RA and Fibromyalgia in

addition to the PA about two years ago. I tried going back on the sulfa,

but this time, I seemed to have a reaction to it. It wasn't anything

horrid. I just ran a constant 100 degree " mini " fever and had a constant

mild sore throat. The doc wasn't even sure it was related, but when I

dropped the sulfa, the symptoms disappeared. (I'd had them for a couple of

months.) Then, I went about another year with no disease modifiers because

everything else seemed too toxic. (I don't use birth control, so I hesitate

using really toxic drugs.) Finally, I learned about the antibiotic

protocol. It has taken a couple of months (including a fairly miserable

herxheimer reaction), but I am now on the upswing and feeling so much

better.

Let me know if you have other questions.

Blessings!

Terri

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From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:10 PM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic antibiotics

Hi,

I'm new to the group. I'm curious are Antibiotics & nbsp;different & nbsp;than

the sulfa drugs? & nbsp; Has anyone else been treated with sulfa drugs?

& nbsp;

Thank you,

Deb

October 27, 2009

Why would you take an antibiotic if you are trying to get rid of candida?

Antibiotics are horrible for you and destroy the good bacteria in your gut.

Stay away from them if possible and take some probiotics to build up your good

bacteria and help your immune system.

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October 30, 2009

Yogurt is ok, but what i would do is give her a good probiotics like the one i'm

giving my 2 year old son because he is under antibiotics right now/ What we use

is Nature Sunshine's Probiotic Eleven which has 6 billion counts of beneficial

bacteria that your daughter needs to replenish her gastrointestinal flora which

is so needed to absorb the nutrients food has to offer. You can use Grapefruit

Seed Extract or Olive Leaf Extract while on the antibiotics because they act as

natural antifungals fighting the yeast that comes after a round of antibiotics.

Beware though if your daughter has phenol sensitivities in which case using

Grapeseed Extract may be problematic.

From: cward_ri <cward_ri@...>

Subject: antibiotics

Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 10:49 AM

My daughter, 9, has to go on antibiotics for a UTI. What should I give her to

help keep the good bacteria? Is yogurt okay or do I need something stronger?

Thanks for your help!

October 25, 2010

Ok i have another possibly stupid question but dont know who else to ask.

I have two nasty parasites, blastocystis hominis and d fragilis or something

like that. These parasites are nasty and can apparently cause damage to all

organs if not gotten soon enough, much the same as mould can.

The treatment is to take 4 antibiotics for 10 days which seems real extreme but

they are real hard to get rid of. My main conern is that being mould sensitive i

may not handle antibiotics?? Once we are messed up with mould are antibiotics a

bad idea? I have to avoid carbs and all fermented foods, moulds and fungul foods

obviously. On the other hand bugs might be contributing to my poor digestion,

inflammation and poor health and perhaps i will heal faster with them gone. Its

another complication that i just dont need.

October 26, 2010

>

> Ok i have another possibly stupid question but dont know who else to ask.

>

> I have two nasty parasites, blastocystis hominis and d fragilis or something

like that. These parasites are nasty and can apparently cause damage to all

organs if not gotten soon enough, much the same as mould can.

>

> The treatment is to take 4 antibiotics for 10 days which seems real extreme

but they are real hard to get rid of. My main conern is that being mould

sensitive i may not handle antibiotics?? Once we are messed up with mould are

antibiotics a bad idea? I have to avoid carbs and all fermented foods, moulds

and fungul foods obviously. On the other hand bugs might be contributing to my

poor digestion, inflammation and poor health and perhaps i will heal faster with

them gone. Its another complication that i just dont need.

>

I fought with b hominis for a long time, using all kinds of drugs.

The one that finally helped was Yodoxin. My doctor (Dale Guyer) says that it

has been very successful for him.

Four antibiotics does sound like a lot.

October 26, 2010

unless you have some kind of severe reaction to antibiotics, I dont see where

you shouldn't take them to deal with this problem.

just my thought.

>

> Ok i have another possibly stupid question but dont know who else to ask.

>

> I have two nasty parasites, blastocystis hominis and d fragilis or something

like that. These parasites are nasty and can apparently cause damage to all

organs if not gotten soon enough, much the same as mould can.

>

> The treatment is to take 4 antibiotics for 10 days which seems real extreme

but they are real hard to get rid of. My main conern is that being mould

sensitive i may not handle antibiotics?? Once we are messed up with mould are

antibiotics a bad idea? I have to avoid carbs and all fermented foods, moulds

and fungul foods obviously. On the other hand bugs might be contributing to my

poor digestion, inflammation and poor health and perhaps i will heal faster with

them gone. Its another complication that i just dont need.

>

October 26, 2010

Thanks, i havnt taken antibiotics in about 10 years so no idea what my reaction

would be.

> >

> > Ok i have another possibly stupid question but dont know who else to ask.

> >

> > I have two nasty parasites, blastocystis hominis and d fragilis or something

like that. These parasites are nasty and can apparently cause damage to all

organs if not gotten soon enough, much the same as mould can.

> >

> > The treatment is to take 4 antibiotics for 10 days which seems real extreme

but they are real hard to get rid of. My main conern is that being mould

sensitive i may not handle antibiotics?? Once we are messed up with mould are

antibiotics a bad idea? I have to avoid carbs and all fermented foods, moulds

and fungul foods obviously. On the other hand bugs might be contributing to my

poor digestion, inflammation and poor health and perhaps i will heal faster with

them gone. Its another complication that i just dont need.

> >

>

October 26, 2010

Wow, why did your doc test you for parasites? That's not that common of a test.

I mean, docs don't generally test for parasites, not my docs anyway.

Antibiotics have been discussed before (you can do a search of archives). I have

been on a few in the last several months. My feeling is that if the choice is

between letting parasites, which you know you have, and taking antibiotics,

which you won't know the effect of until you take them, choose to get rid if the

parasites. But dint blame me if you take my advice and it doesn't work out.

Remember too that not everything is a result of mold--I've always experienced

side effects with antibiotics and I always will--not because of mold, but

because those meds have side effects and I'm sensitive to meds in general.

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