Guest guest Posted October 2, 2001 Report Share Posted October 2, 2001 > i started epsom salt baths with my son today any one know what i > should expect??? thank you neva I would look for 2 different things: 1. he gets irritatable, fussed up and crabby - indicates detoxing reaction at an excessive level. Keep doing the baths regularly, maybe a little less salts so the reaction isn't so difficult, and it should pass. 2. he gets calmer, more relaxed, more focused - indicates the effect of processing the phenols/toxics at a good level. Can give baths as needed. That is my interpretation. When I have the boys do the foot bath, they get more relaxed. The tenseness goes away. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2001 Report Share Posted October 2, 2001 -karen thanks for the help neva __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 >I have read several different places that the use of >Epsom Salt Baths has at times produced excellent >results. I am wondering how often the baths are given >and how " strong " do you make them? I bought a box at >the drug store and the directions say '2 cups per >gallon of water'. >We have 4 1/2 year old triplet boys, 2 of which are >autistic, who still take a bath all at the same >time...so the tub is very large and full to the top. >I am nervous about making it too strong in the event >someone drinks it, but want it to be strong enough to >be able to tell if it helps or not! >Any insight would be appreciated! >Thanks >Pat (Mom to Jon, Josh & Jake) caveat: personal experience only, and from an adult, NOT kids: I thought epsom salt did nothing for me from a number of tries. Come to find out I was not using enough! When I used the whole boxfull I felt GREAT the next morning--- it took that much to notice an effect! I am now doing experiments with making creme (not too good so far) and also using the creme that Kirkman's sells. Dana has directions for how to make it yourself on her website, I believe, in case you are interested: http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/ best of luck with the experiments! Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 > I have read several different places that the use of > Epsom Salt Baths has at times produced excellent > results. I am wondering how often the baths are given > and how " strong " do you make them? I bought a box at > the drug store and the directions say '2 cups per > gallon of water'. > We have 4 1/2 year old triplet boys, 2 of which are > autistic, who still take a bath all at the same > time...so the tub is very large and full to the top. > I am nervous about making it too strong in the event > someone drinks it, but want it to be strong enough to > be able to tell if it helps or not! > Any insight would be appreciated! one box per tub full. It is a laxative if drunk, but nothing worse happens. Andy . . . .. . . . > Thanks > Pat (Mom to Jon, Josh & Jake) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 epsom salt baths help my daughter sooo much, her mood is better into the next day! They HELP! do it! Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Most people use two cups per bathtub. My son reacted at first to the baths with aggression the next mornings, so I dropped way back--to a teaspoon to a tub of water, and worked up until I found the amount that he can tolerate. He tolerates around one to one and a half cups. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 I personally enjoy and recommend a minimum of about 20 pounds per tub, and have used up to 800 pounds in a Sensory Deprivation Tank for Detox (specific Gravity 1.31, to be exact). I've never had nor have any of my patients ever had any untoward reactions, only very positive and beneficial results.. Rich Re: [ ] Epsom Salt Baths > >I have read several different places that the use of > >Epsom Salt Baths has at times produced excellent > >results. I am wondering how often the baths are given > >and how " strong " do you make them? I bought a box at > >the drug store and the directions say '2 cups per > >gallon of water'. > >We have 4 1/2 year old triplet boys, 2 of which are > >autistic, who still take a bath all at the same > >time...so the tub is very large and full to the top. > >I am nervous about making it too strong in the event > >someone drinks it, but want it to be strong enough to > >be able to tell if it helps or not! > >Any insight would be appreciated! > >Thanks > >Pat (Mom to Jon, Josh & Jake) > > caveat: personal experience only, and from an adult, > NOT kids: > > I thought epsom salt did nothing for me from a number > of tries. Come to find out I was not using enough! > When I used the whole boxfull I felt GREAT the next > morning--- it took that much to notice an effect! > I am now doing experiments with making creme (not too > good so far) and also using the creme that Kirkman's > sells. Dana has directions for how to make it yourself > on her website, I believe, in case you are interested: > http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/ > > best of luck with the experiments! > Moria > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Excuse me my ignorance but what does the Epsom salt bath actually do for the child? Thanks... Re: [ ] Re: Epsom Salt Baths epsom salt baths help my daughter sooo much, her mood is better into the next day! They HELP! do it! Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Hi, I give my daughter Epsom Salt baths occasionally, but if you're not filtering the bath water I think it would be better to use the cream, or a simple solution of the salts on the skin. Owens has said in the past that the topical application seemed to be more effective than the baths. I'm spraying the solution on my daughter's legs in the morning and, if no bath, in the evening. If she starts to melt down, I spray it on her then too. I definately would start with a low dose and work up from there as this aids in detox. Epsom Salt Solution Boil 1 cup of pure, filtered water and add 1/4 to 1/2 cup Epsom Salts. Stir to disolve. Let cool, then pour some into a pump spray bottle (available at the pharmacy for about $2). Spray on the skin and rub in. This pump spray solves the problem of providing a dose while away from home - it travels well. K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 > Excuse me my ignorance but what does the Epsom salt bath actually do for the child? Thanks... provides sulfate and magnesium. I guess you know what magnesium is good for. Many of our kids are deficient in sulfate, and sulfate is used in the body in one of the liver detoxification phases, to rid the body of toxic " stuff " . That's why some kids calm down after a bath with Epsom salts. The body is cleaner. Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 My 4-year-old daughter Jenna has autism. She and her 2 younger sisters sometimes take a bath together and drink the water too (shocking! According to family members. Surprise; we have bigger issues). Anyway, sometimes Jen will have a softer BM right afterwards, not a big deal. I usually use about 2 cups for a half tubful of water That's when Jenna stays in the tub the longest and it seems to relax her the most. Her bath is the last thing right before bedtime and she has a lot of problems regulating herself so that's important to us. But that could be because the water is not gritty up to that point, or it tastes good up to that point, or who knows what else. She does like the bath better with the Epson Salts, no question. Valeri I have read several different places that the use of Epsom Salt Baths has at times produced excellent results. I am wondering how often the baths are given and how " strong " do you make them? I bought a box at the drug store and the directions say '2 cups per gallon of water'. We have 4 1/2 year old triplet boys, 2 of which are autistic, who still take a bath all at the same time...so the tub is very large and full to the top. I am nervous about making it too strong in the event someone drinks it, but want it to be strong enough to be able to tell if it helps or not! Any insight would be appreciated! Thanks Pat (Mom to Jon, Josh & Jake) __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Hope you don't mind me asking, but I couldn't get to those links you posted. So, you just mix a cup in the regular bath? How long do you leave him in there? And 2x a day is sufficient? Are there any side effects to watch out for? Thanks, Traci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 --Hi Traci, I got the info from a mom Janet at speech diet. She told me to start at 1 cup in the tub, make sure it dissolves, then increase to up to 2 cups. I was not told of any side effects so I would suggest you post to speechdiet and ask them. Epsom salts are a natural product that many people use, it takes the toxins out of the body, infact from what I hear most people should take a epsom salt bath once in a while, (sounding a little like pro-efa????) It is great for the skin and cleared up my other son's skin rash. They also told me to leave him in for 20 min, not a problem in my house but I know some children don't like it. I noticed after the first bath, he was way more mellow. I am actually going to bring the article I got from speech diet group and bring it to JAck's new prvt. OT who was interested in it and had never heard of it helping sensory issues. Hope this helps, again the speech diet group at is great obviously have great info. Eileen - In @y..., " roddyt001 " <roddyt001@h...> wrote: > Hope you don't mind me asking, but I couldn't get to those links you > posted. So, you just mix a cup in the regular bath? How long do you > leave him in there? And 2x a day is sufficient? Are there any side > effects to watch out for? > > Thanks, Traci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does the hair come out clean? Thanks, Marie seanzonigal <seanzonigal@...> wrote: Hi All, I thought since alot of people are interested in the epsom salt baths that I would just post 1 message instead of individual ones. I actually got this info from speech diet group which I love because I get great info from a group of great people. Basically A Dr. Rosemary Waring found that most autistic spectrum kids and alot of other children with neurological issues including Sensory intergration disorder and ADHD/ADD. So I jumped to it because JAck has sensory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Hi , I don't know as I would not get this stuff near Charlies eyes or mouth . It WILL cause diareoha if a child drinks it ... The baths will help sulphation and help your child excrete toxins etc but you can help too by reducing their intake of additives and phenols ( highly coloured foods ) . Charlie has an epsom salt bath once or twice a week . I confess I tend to keep hair washing to other nights but please choose a good shampoo ( like Green people in the UK ) with as few chemicals as possible so you are not adding in the very things you are trying to clear out of their system . Samre goes for bath shower gels and bubble baths - usually worth avoiding if you want this treatment to help . Regards Deborah Marie <psalm_127@y...> wrote: > Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does > the hair come out clean? > Thanks, > Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 I don't think I would wash their hair in it, just soak their body. I'm going to pick up some as well, since this is so easy to try and readily available. I don't even wash my daughter's hair with bath water either, but use our shower sprayer to wet her hair down, shampoo, and then use it again to rinse off. I'd probably use the sprayer to rinse off the excess salt water after she is done with her bath as well...afterall the shower sprayer is a great sensory tool as well. :-) Jill Hi All, > I thought since alot of people are interested in the epsom salt baths > that I would just post 1 message instead of individual ones. I > actually got this info from speech diet group which I love because I > get great info from a group of great people. > Basically A Dr. Rosemary Waring found that most autistic spectrum > kids and alot of other children with neurological issues including > Sensory intergration disorder and ADHD/ADD. So I jumped to it because > JAck has sensory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Hi Marie, To be honest I don't know but what I do is put the water on low while washing and rinsing. You can I assume wash your child's hair in it can't hurt! Eileen --- Marie <psalm_127@...> wrote: > Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, > obviously you CAN, but does > the hair come out clean? > Thanks, > Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 You know after giving Jack these baths since friday I haven't noticed any residue from the salt. What the article says it that some of the epsom salts left on the skin may continue to be absorbed as long as it is still on the skin, offering something sort of like a " time release " into the blood stream, just like medications that are given through skin patches. So maybe leaving them on is a good thing unless your child does not like it or makes them itchy. Just a thought Eileen --- In @y..., " jills2daughters " <Momof2girls@c...> wrote: > I don't think I would wash their hair in it, just soak their body. > I'm going to pick up some as well, since this is so easy to try and > readily available. I don't even wash my daughter's hair with bath > water either, but use our shower sprayer to wet her hair down, > shampoo, and then use it again to rinse off. I'd probably use the > sprayer to rinse off the excess salt water after she is done with her > bath as well...afterall the shower sprayer is a great sensory tool as > well. :-) > > Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 i've been doing it and it's not been a problem. m.l ----- Original Message ----- > Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does > the hair come out clean? > Thanks, > Marie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Thank you everyone, who has responded to this. I was just curious on what the rest of you do. My kiddos are all too old to be drinking their bathwater, so that shouldn't be an issue e also has had very bad cradle cap since a couple of months old, and has never really grown out of it. I have found some natural remedies that are great for getting the crud off her scalp. I am now wondering if epsom salt might help too? I might give it a try just to see... Thanks again Marie Lynn McClendon <mamapudd@...> wrote: i've been doing it and it's not been a problem. m.l ----- Original Message ----- > Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does > the hair come out clean? > Thanks, > Marie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 sorry guys off topic again ~ Marie What is good for cradle cap? Marie <psalm_127@...> wrote: Thank you everyone, who has responded to this. I was just curious on what the rest of you do. My kiddos are all too old to be drinking their bathwater, so that shouldn't be an issue e also has had very bad cradle cap since a couple of months old, and has never really grown out of it. I have found some natural remedies that are great for getting the crud off her scalp. I am now wondering if epsom salt might help too? I might give it a try just to see... Thanks again Marie Lynn McClendon <mamapudd@...> wrote: i've been doing it and it's not been a problem. m.l ----- Original Message ----- > Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does > the hair come out clean? > Thanks, > Marie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 What results are you seeing over the long run with the salt baths? Guess I'll give it a whirl since Wiley is tactilly sensitive. >i've been doing it and it's not been a problem. > >m.l > >----- Original Message ----- > > Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but >does > > the hair come out clean? > > Thanks, > > Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 nothing overly obvious. It's soothing though and been a good sensory time to get him more used to baths- which he hated while he loves swimming??? my boys love it as well. i had an odd thing i've wondered about with them. i've been doing them some too, started out doing them to get austin in the tub daily. anyway, my deodorant stopped working. ick. then i read about alluminum and how it's in most deodorants. so i looked and yep mine has it. so i bought a new deo without it. so i'm wondering if it was getting rid of the alluminum that was in my deodorant causing it not to work? austin has benefitted from everything i've done so far, little subtle things. carnosine however took away the wonderful sleeping he got from EFAs, so i took it away. I'm getting better results again from him now. Yesterday I also tried the extra b vitamins. Huge differences. Lynn Re: [ ] epsom salt baths > What results are you seeing over the long run with the salt baths? Guess > I'll give it a whirl since Wiley is tactilly sensitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2003 Report Share Posted April 5, 2003 My daughter has good results from the Epsom Salt baths. We use 2 cups to the bath. Started with one cup first. It seems to mellow her out, especially when she phenols are the culprit. You should try it, it really does relax you. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2003 Report Share Posted April 6, 2003 >>> Is it ok to use every night? THe baths work wonders for my son and I use the crem 2 times a day as well...it really helps with his phenol issues...ginger I think it is okay to use as long or as much as is tolerated. Both the sulfate and magnesium leave the body relatively quickly so a steady supply is good. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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